Why does Japan have a lot of iconic/well-known game directors

>>376741929
Because in the West they're making indie games rather than AAA blockbusters.

The west has Todd Howard :^)

>>376742010
What? Every Western game I named in the OP post is an AAA game.
>>376742021
Yeah I know, but that's only one compared to 7 I named in the OP just off the top of my head.

>keep circlejerking jap nonames
>woah guys how come west have none

>who is Warren Spector?
>who is Cliff Blezinski?
>who is Will Wright?
>who is Roberta Williams?
>who is Peter Molyneaux?
>who is Ken Levine?
>who is John Romero?
>who is Tim Schaffer?
>who is Scott Cawthorn?
>who is Markus Pheerson?
>who is Mike Bithell?

>>376742125
Good question.

>>376742125
>SJWs, figuratively dead, fraud

>>376741929
Because Japan actually makes noteable games, focusing on gameplay. Thats something thats gonna stick with people obviously.

Meanwhile the west is providing "immersive experiences" meaning copy pasted enviroments with copy pasted assets in which the players can "do what they want" with shallow gameplay. And those that aren't immersive sims, are cinematic experiences that are forgettable as well, because stories in games are just not that good.

>>376742125
1 guy who got cucked and 10 nobodies

>>376741929
neil druckmann, lorne lanning

>Implying it won't devolve into a maddening spiral of westaboo vs weeaboo

>>376742125
>Cliff Blezinski
I wish he would of made a new tps instead of a hero fps

>>376742095
You said big/popular. There are many popular indie games. Edmund McMillan's output is a good example.

>>376742174
>>376742197
>moving the goalposts this much
Most of the western gaming audience is completely unfamiliar with Japanese developers outside of Nintendo. Your point?

>>376741929
You're wrong.
Sid Meier
John Carmack
John Romero
Will Wright
Gaben
Todd Howard

I mean, the west still has folks like Dan Houser, Will Wright, Peter Molyneux, Warren Spector, John Carmack, American McGee, Ken Levine and so on...

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>>376742187
>d-do I fit in on /v/ y-yet?

>>376742125
I'll give you Spector and Romero

>>376742398
funny enough most of those dont even make games anymore

Tood Howard
Chris Avellone
Warren Spector
David Jaffe
Jade Raymond
Amy Hennig
Marty Stratton
Randy Pitchford

>>376741929
>no Miyamoto or Aonuma
how could you leave them off the list

Call of Duty is Eric Hishberg but he's activision ceo, also David Vonderhaar from treyarch.

Also tim willits from id software.

>>376741929
because weeabos are beta bitches in need of men to worship.

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>>376741929
*blocks your path*

>>376742125
yes
who?

>>376742187
>Because Japan actually makes noteable games, focusing on gameplay.
The two best selling selling games of all time(Tetris and Minecraft) were made by a western devs(european ones at that) and they have no cutscenes only gameplay. Compared to them the original Mario Bros is a movie.

>>376741929
Legitimate answer? The west did, back when gaming was newer. Cliffy B., John Romero, and others had the same sort of concept when it came to running a company; they were The Boss, and everything was run by them before it was put into the game. They had their hands in EVERYTHING about the game. Japan continues this trend, where video game directors are the one you send everyone to in order to talk about what's happening with the game and how far along it is in production. The west, meanwhile, has gone a newer route, that of "corporate stratification". A company dilutes the product by sending it to different aspects and portions of the company, which allows for more specialized workers to create something; you send the music to the Head Of Sound Design, you send the voice acting to the VA Director, you send the writing to the Lead Writer, etc. This prevents one jackass from getting his way over any sensible or fun ideas, but ALSO means that a game company is seen as, well, a company rather than as being led by individuals. Kamiya is the face of Platinum, but who is the face of Ubisoft?

Some western devs DO follow the old/Japanese style, but in the worst of ways; Peter Molyneaux and David Cage are iconic to their companies, but are known by gamers as hacks and crazies that would rather get their names attached to a project than actually make a good game.

>>376742125
only two or three of those names are woth a damn and they're all retired/irrelevent.

>>376742174
>>376742816
>>376742197
>I don't know jack shit about video games
Yeah go stay in your weeb bubble, virgins.

>who is the man who made DOOM?
>who is the man who made Five Nights at Freddy's?
>who is the man who made Minecraft?
>who is the man who made The Sims?
>who is the man who made Deus Ex?
>who is the man who made Bioshock?
>who is the woman who made King's Quest?

>>376741929
because western games are shit

>>376742125
>Mike Bithell
>Scott Cawthorn?

Might as well name Phil Fish

>>376742398
Sid Meier never made videogames. He only gave them his name.

>>376742125
Nice cuck list there anon.

>>376741929
The west is a lot more modest than the East. Celebrities are generally frowned upon unless it's their job to PR.

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>>376741929

To be honest the only that comes to my mind are:

Todd Howard
Chris Avellone
Josh Sawyer
Tim Cain
Swen Vicke

>>376741929
there r lots
the guy from bioshock, the other from civ, the dude from gears of war, todd, the dude from half life

there are lots

Because Japanese corporate culture tends to attribute a product with one person, so MGS is always "Kojima's game" despite him not really doing much of anything to create it. The west tends to respect the individual contributions everyone makes to a product, so that kind of thing is much more uncommon.

Because businesses tend to switch out teams or parts of them and don't want fans/customers/audience to know

>>376742125
the only ones I know off this list is Schaffer, Romero, Molyneaux, and Blezinski

>>376745082
Who are you again?

Is John Carmack even active in now days after the Occulus fiasco?

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>>376741929
It's funny how those 'famous' devs are literally who in Japan. most Japanese people only know Horii.
even Miyamoto is described as 'He's a famous guy in the west for some reason'

>>376745213
Tom Holland

>>376745067
Bingo

Tom Clancy is my favorite game dev. he even makes games beyond the grave. how does he do it?

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>>376742125
>Markus Pheerson

>>376741929
west corporations like privacy is a guess.

>>376745364
He made them before he died. The world is simply not ready for his final magnum opus.

>>376742956
>Kamiya is the face of Platinum
Despite not having a leadership/directorial role in virtually any of their games

He did
Bayonetta
TW101

No hand in MGR, Mad World, Max Anarchy, Nier Automata, Bayonetta 2, Vanquish, or TFD/the rest of the Activision games. Kenji Saito has directed as many great Platinum titles as Kamiya, but nobody knows Saito.

Kamiya is only well-known because he's a loud Twitter shitposter.

>>376745364
Keiji Inafune is my favorite game dev, despite him never making a game he's creator of mega man, dead rising, lost planet and onimusha. how does he do it?

>>376745565
>second best selling game of all time
>pure gameplay
Is there a problem?

Nobody mentions Patrice Désilets - the man who brought Ubisoft to its glory 14 years back with the first installment of the Sands of Time trilogy.

Disgusting subhuman beings here.

>>376745656
>No hand in Bayonetta 2
And it shows, for the worse.

>>376741929
The west has Todd, Molyneaux, Sean Murray and Brianna Wu

>>376745656
To be fair Kamiya has a legacy extended far before Platinum. He directed DMC and RE2 which are like two of the most recognizable games of all time.

>>376745656
Don't forget without Kamiya we never would have gotten Devil May Cry, basically the foundation of the Hack 'n Slash genre. Fucking pleb kill yourself.

>>376744830
Correct answer.

>>376745735
>the man who brought Ubisoft to its glory
That's Michel Ancel

>>376745174
>Not knowing who Warren Spector is
I want nu-/v/ to leave.

>>376745834
Dont forget phil fish

>yfw todd howard and other whos are circle jerked to death in 2ch

Simple. Japan is an extremely corporate country, so much so that it makes the United States look like what Marx wanted to envision. Thus, they pick the most attractive (or on occasion quirky) guy on the team and turn him into their celebrity. These people actually didn't contribute much, if anything, to the game's design, and almost everything was done by a "ghost writer", so to speak. MGS was good because of Fukushima, not Kojima. DMC was only good because of that one dude who's responsible for Dragon's Dogma, not Kamiya. Clover's and early Platinum's games were good because of Mikami, not Kamiya. Donkey Kong wasn't entirely designed by Miyamoto, but by a company called Imegami Tsushinki.

It's all about making your product as marketable as possible. The west just has suits design the games based on an algorithm that, in theory, should work. When games start marketing their directors first and foremost, they tend to suffer, see the case with Daikatana/Romero and Bethesda anything/Todd Howard.

>>376745905
>>376745873
I'm aware of his pedigree with Clover but that doesn't explain why people act like he's The Man Behind Platinum Games.

Especially since Saito and Mikami were both ALSO from Clover, and worked on many of the same games he did.

Mikami at least left Platinum after Vanquish, but nobody recognizes Saito at all despite him being behind arguably the most popular game from Plat (MGR)

>>376745174
>doesn't know who Will Wright is

Jesus Christ how exactly new is /v/?

>>376742125
Is a single one of those neither retired nor washed up?

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>>376743387
>the man who made Five Nights at Freddy's

>>376745928
>That's Michel Ancel
While he is the head of Rayman, in the end he didn't determine Ubisoft's path like Désilets did. Ancel laid the foundation but Désilets finished the building, and Ubisoft destroyed it shortly afterwards.

>>376741929
Sid Meier's games are the mustard in PC's race

>>376741929
>Why don't you know irrelevant people behind irrelevant games
gee I wonder why

>>376746064
>the most popular game from Plat (MGR)
MGR is shit compared to anything Mikami or Kamiya has done though and I'll take quality over notoriety any day.

>>376745656
Yeah, he made their two good games.

>>376742125
I seriously don't know Roberta Williams. I'll look her up now

the west have that lying piece of shit who deserves to have cancer
i forgot his name
and the retard who made great maps for ut and then turned into a faggot

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>>376741929
>western devs
they're either cucks or memes

ex: Todd Howard, Anthony Burch, phil phish

>>376745708
maybe he was referring to the fact that you spelled persson buttfuckingly retarded

>>376746338
While I agree with the sentiment, Saito ALSO directed Transformers Devastation which I will always argue deserves a seat alongside DMC and God Hand in the pantheon of Truly Fucking Great Action Games

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>>376746385
>Kamiya
>Vanquish

>>376741929
They did but after the Xbox and steam ruined pc gaming they stopped being prominent

>>376741929
You forgot Miyamoto the most important man in video gaming history.

Because western games are made by (((committees))).

>>376746553
Thats right, he didnt make Vanquish, he made the good Platinum games instead. All two of them before the studio became a /v/ meme that does nothing worthwhile while still getting praise.

>>376742187
Sounds like you've just described a JRPG. Does anyone actually enjoy turn based combat and random encounters?

>>376746695
Vanquish, Transformers, and MGR are all at LEAST good games. Transformers and the Jetstream Sam DLC for MGR are fantastic

>>376746595
>never invented a new genre
>his games are all casual trash for retards
He's nothing compared to Sid Meyer or Peter Molyneux

>>376741929
because most western games are for normalfags, they don't care about people who are behind those games.
Who cares about FIFA director?

>>376746982
Vanquish is their second best game behind Bayonetta.

>>376747047
Sid Meyer also invent nothing

>>376742125
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say those are all one-trick ponies. Most Japanese developers go on to make a metric shitton of games; if they have a reputation at all, it's because most of those games have been notable in some way. Guy pictured has, in some way or another, been responsible for most of the really great action hack and slashers coming out of Japan. Well, not most, but a damn lot. All those people have sparkling resumes.

The ones you listed have contributed one, maybe two, great things to the industry. You also forgot people like Ted Price and John Carmack.

>>376747047
You forgot the part where Miyamoto made good games.

>>376741929
Cliff Blizinski
Todd Howard
Peter Molyneux
Tim Schaefer
Grant Kirkhope
Randy Pitchford
Toady
Notch
Mike Z
Toby Fox

Some are iconic for the worst reasons though.

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>>376745213
DONT
IGNORE
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376741929
>>376742125

>>376747376
>Grant Kirkhope
Isn't he the composer who worked on Rare's games?

>>376741929
It's because of the west's superior collectivist culture while Japan will always have a fiercely independent, individualist scum culture.

>>376742592
Nintendros need no apply.

>>376747376
Can we actually say Toby is a gamedev? He only made one great game and probably will never make a game again

>>376741929
Daikatana happened.

there were many iconic devs in western vidya industry back then.
I have no idea about current situation

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>people still like Sakurai
>after Smash 4
>after the "FE: Fates is a dating sim" quote
>the "Horizon and BotW are masterpieces" quote
>using MvC3 in defense of Smash 4's balancing
>and his whole "fuck sequels" shtick

Jap game devs act like artists, whereas western devs act more like managers.

It's simple. Japan makes better games.

>>376741929
because these people aren't worth remembering. They don't do cool things that you can idolize.

>Kamiya literally likes God of War 3 over Ninja Gaiden Black

because Japan has a culture that glorifies the individual. to clarify, in the west when a good game is made, more often than not people say that the game studio made a good game. but in japan they give all the credit to one guy and make him a saint

>>376742962
No, Spector is working on SS3 you retard.

>>376747376
i wonder if Mother 4 devs are going to work on Undertale 2 in a couple of years

>>376745260
Japanese just care about the company. One good guy doesn't make a game. I agree. It's useless to care about one person unless everyone under them is decent to good.

>>376741929
Uusually because these guys are the 'main force' behind their games. From story, to characters, to the gameplay style, it all comes from these guys' heads. It also helps that their games stand out, when games where these guys work as directors show up, you bet your ass it's going to be something unique.

Just look at Kamya's repertoire, for an example. RE2, DMC, Vieautiful Joe, Okami, Bayonetta, and Wonderful 101, out of all of them, RE2 is the most normal game he directed, the rest is either off the wall crazy, have a unique ass artsyle that makes instantly recognizable, or both, and also one game that pretty much set the current standards for an entire genre.

On the west however, it's always seen as more of a team effort, than one person's idea going forward. So the entire studio is credited rather than one person, like Rockstar, for an example, does anyone really give a shit about the people working on GTA?

There are some stand out names in the west though, first that comes to mind are Jonh Romero & Carmack, then you have Warren Spector, Todd "It just works" Howard, Ken Lavine, Tim Schafer, David Jaffe, Ubisoft actually had one as well, the guy who made Rayman and Beyond Good & Evil, can't remember his name, but he probably was the best designer and director Ubisoft ever had.

Although, on the same level as the Japanese guys, I think only Romero and Carmack ever got there.

>>376741929
i only know kojima, kamiya and taro because hes known for his shit games

>>376741929
>Kojima, Nomura, Kamiya, Sakurai
yep
>Taro
literally fucking who

>>376749293
>the guy who made Rayman and Beyond Good & Evil, can't remember his name,
Michel Ancel.

>>376741929
What about itagaki

>>376741929
I lot of western game developers were gobbled up by EA and Activision. Japan actually has laws about foreigners purchasing Japanese companies (as I understand it) and so they can't buy someone like Sega.

That said, how do you not know names like Peter Molyneaux or Richard Garriott? Are you intentionally trying to remain ignorant?

Although the knowledge of "big names" and the rise of Kickstarter has mostly proven that it's the team, not one named individual, who are responsible for the success of games.

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>>376750660
(You)

>>376742125
a literal bunch of failures or charlatans.
Especially Peter Molyneaux and Markus Pheerson.

>>376741929
>Why does Japan have a lot of iconic/well-known game directors but the West doesn't?
Because you're too young to know anything, but considering nobody but one Anon mentioned Richard Garriot and nobody mentioned people like Silas Warner I'm not surprised.
Also, both Taro and Nomura are jokes in japan, they're literally Todd Howard or Phil Fish tier in there, at least try to get your facts straight.

>>376742125
/thread

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>>376748962
>Japan has a culture that glorifies the individual

Becasue the Japanese still make good games. There are no modern and well known Western devs because almost everything made in the West is shit.

>>376742125
>>who is Warren Spector?
A husk, and ironically hillary supporter.
>>who is Cliff Blezinski?
>>who is Will Wright?
Literally who at this point
>>who is Roberta Williams?
>>who is Peter Molyneaux?
A hack
>>who is Ken Levine?
A hack fraud
>>who is John Romero?
Literally who right now
>>who is Tim Schaffer?
Scam artist
>>who is Scott Cawthorn?
FNAF guy, though his christian fundamentalist RPG is pretty cool
>>who is Markus Pheerson?
A twitter shitposter
>>who is Mike Bithell?

>>376746131
Yes, the man who made one of the highest-selling franchises of the past three years. What of it?

Who are Bobby Kotick, Phil Spencer, Yves Guillotine, Satan, and Randy Pitchford?

If you stopped playing weebshit for once you might recognize the important people in the western games industry.

>>376746064
Because Kamiya is behind the actual most popular and recognizable game Plat made. Mikami used to share the spot with him, but he left, so Kamiya ended up being the undispited 'king'.

There's also the fact that Kamiya shows up in interviews about his games, and interacts with people via Twitter, making him way more approachable than Saito, who, despite also having a Twitter account, almost never tweets, and when he does, it's usually in Japanese.

Saito also have yet to make his own original game. He's usually the guy in charge of working on another company's IP, like Metal Gear and Transformers. Make no mistake, I love these game, and I have bought, and played the shit out of both, but the game's he worked had bigger names attatcked to them than his, and those bigger names were Kojima, and Hasbro. Until he starts directing an original game that he himself concocted inside his head, he'll never start gaining fame like Kamiya,.

>>376751524
>Undispited
Fuck, I meant undisputed.

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>Who is Jonathan Blow

>>376748775
He was right about everything

>>376751478
>Who are Bobby Kotick
A jew
>Phil Spencer
A suicide bomber or an undercover agent for Sony, maybe both
>Yves Guillotine
Literally who
>Satan
*tips fedora*
>Randy Pitchford
A mediocre FPS player and a hack

>>376748962
Did you accidentally type Japan instead of America or are you actually retarded.

>>376742125
Who? Haven't heard of any of those names. All I know from Nippon are kojima, nobuo uematsu kek

>>376751008
>>376752316
He's not wrong, though, when we talking about entertainment or artistic works it's like he said.

>>376752259
They're the guys who bring us the memes at E3. The higher up the ladder the more kek potential.

>>376741929
Wizardry 8 was the last good game made in the west.