For once I proved to be diligent enough. Previous thread: >>376625446

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Providence should be a 70/80 on the suffering scale, and 50 on how much he deserved to.

On one hand he just wanted to protect his planet, and on the other he assaulted an innocent transport that was holding the stolen teleporter from his planet. And the game ends with him dead and a good chunk of the inhabitants of his planet dead.

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90 suffering, 40 deserved.

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>Luigi
>Deserving of any suffering

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>>376740398
Suffering: 100
Deserving: 0

>>376741695
Yeah. I'll probably make him take that corner.

>>376741580
He's not bad but he isn't pure and innocent, either.

>>376740398
WELLLLLLLLLL

>>376741097
I put him on there. I will try my best to catch him up in this thread.

Big Boss: Suffering 70, Deserved 60
Venom Snake: Suffering 80, deserved 20
Terra (Kingdom hearts): Suffering 80, deserved 40
Aqua: Suffering 50, deserved 50
John Marston: Suffered 70 Deserved 40

>>376740398
OC? On /v/ of all places? Is the world ending tomorrow?

Anyways nice work.

>>376740398
Dragon Quest V protag

Suffering 90
Deserved 0

>>376741132
Who is this?

>>376742440
Looks like the WiiU

>>376742440
Wii U-tan

>>376741695
Based choice my friend.
>>376740398
Who is the 100,100?

Put that Sean guy who made No Man's Sky at 100 Deserving and 0 Suffering

>>376740398
Wait is that Subject Delta with 40 deserving? What did he do wrong?

>>376742628
The Nameless One from Planescape: Torment.

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Put the mayor somewhere near the bottom right, possibly all the way in the corner.

>>376741762
>he isn't pure and innocent, either
Isn't he? I can't think of a single instance of Luigi being selfish or mean

>>376743081
maybe the other anon is talking about the mario kart 8 luigi's death stare meme

but despite that I agree with you, Luigi is a genuinely good guy

>>376743081
Cowardliness is a selfish virtue.

>>376743081
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
His partners in the game aren't very fond of him.

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>>376740398
Suffering: 60 or above 50 in some form at least
Deserved: 0

>>376740398
Zulf from Bastion
loads of suffering
may or may not have deserved it

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Nice, Lammy made it.
Klonoa? 0 Deserved, 60 Suffering?

>>376743212
Isn't Luigi's thing that he's a coward but constantly faces his fears for the greater good?

>>376743359
>>376743415
I'll put them both bellow Hollow Knight.

>>376740398
Definitely needs to have Kazuhira "One Man Clan" Miller on there.

>>376743539
Oh shoot I forgot about him in the previous thread.

>>376743469
Yeah that's true, this >>376743270
would be a more logical reason then.

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where you think this guys can be?

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>>376740398
Suffering maybe ~70 and absolutely no deserved. Maybe because of naiveness about 10

>>376743793
Being a grunt is suffering, but do they deserve it? Probably not, they're a slave race that got BTFO and assimilated so they dont have much say in the matter.

>>376743990
She deserved at least 20
Suffering at 70 is right, though

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(90,0)

>>376743081
Luigi's Mansion

He harbours many disdainful thoughts about his brother's way of life and other completely ordinary things people do.

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Suffering 40
Deserves 100

>>376740398
Drop gygas a couple of squares in the deserving axis. He was being forced to take down earth by his race after his adoptive father stook his nose where he shouldnt

>>376744220

Her deserving is like, maybe a 25.

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I posted James Sunderland in the last thread, why wasn't he added?

anyways

Suffering: 100
Deserved: 50

>>376744414
I'll consider it. Some of these spots aren't completely certain yet.

I'll post an update of the chart after at least ten to fifteen more characters are added.

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Where would he go?

Is there a rough guide for exactly how much a value of suffering means and how much a value of deservedness means? Like I get what the terms are, but I mean a referential scale of some sort.

>>376744597
Correct me if Im wrong but I thought james killed his wife, that would bump up his deserved a bit.

>>376744914
The most extreme points have some more definite values:

(0, 0): this character has done nothing wrong and doesn't suffer much at all to any extent.

(0, 100): this character has done nothing wrong and suffers greatly because of forces beyond their control.

(100, 0): this character causes much suffering and gets away with it unscathed.

(100, 100): this character causes great suffering and others and themselves.

>>376744326
>>376744597
Added.

>>376744941
In the last thread that was brought up as part of why he should be there.

>killed his dying wife, it's so that she could stop suffering but he also wanted to be rid of her, never forgave himself for it

>>376744941
yes but he felt so bad about it that he goes to Silent Hill himself to get punished for it and then kills himself

also his wife was in agony and dying, so he ended her suffering

>>376743990
AI or real tho?

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Otacon

Suffering: 90
Deserved: 20

>>376744597
>>376745275
>>376745393

*Honestly* I would say his suffering is maybe 85-90. He got over it in the end. Having to go through hell doesn't really compare to

>Eternal suffering

like Pokey, The Nameless One, or all the shit Brad went through.

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>glitched out because its trainer installed a virus onto it, forever to be a broken shell
>not to mention, only pokemon not allowed in the anime for something it didn't do

suffering: 90
deserves: 10

>>376745574
Huey Emmerich

Suffering: 20
Deserves: 90

>>376745275
ah thx, good job on the chart OP, you're pretty cool

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>>376745695
Forgot pic

>>376745695
Maybe suffering 30 or 35, but he definitely deserves 90. Maybe 95.

>>376740398
>Aigis is on chart
>door-kun is not
Probably he would go 100 suffering while deserving nothing.

>>376745574
cuck deserved it

>>376745429
I think it depends. Should we consider her story in anime? I suggested Chiaki probably in context of her real self get wrecked.

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>>376740398

Suffering: 35
Deserving: 100

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Suffering: 100
Deserved: 50

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guess I'll suggest more silent hill characters

>Heather

born to be sacrificed for the devil to be born

she's a bit of a jerk, so very small amounts of "deserved"
her suffering isn't personal so to speak (like James) so it's definitively lesser

Suffering: 70
Deserved: 10

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Suffering: 0
Deserved: ∞

>>376746382
Play the VN then come again once you are done with it

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Suffering: 0
How much they deserve to: 100

>>376742628
You have to be 18 to post here

>>376746714
Sayo did nothing wrong my dude

>>376746583
actually bump her suffering to 80-90, forgot they killed her father

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SMT I Hero
Suffering: 70?
Deserved: None of this shit
>mom asks him to buy some coffee at the mal
>guy gets his throat ripped right in front of him
>next day is arrested an accused of murdering that guy
>meet law hero in prison which is some lab that lobotomize everyone
>manages to escape
>helps chaos hero and the three go to Hero's house
>mom acts weird
>it was a demon that ate her and keeps taunting and laughing at hero
>they finally kill it
>hero probably wants to die
>they get his dog and leave
>faggot Hero fuses dog with demon because why not?
>US ambassador wants your help with the demons
>other dude want to use the demons
>in the mean time Law Hero separates from the group to save gf, who's dead, chaos hero tries to go after the guy who used to beat him IIRC and Hero go save Heroine who works with the resistance
>Hero and Heroine go back to US Ambassador, reveals to be Thor and work with God who plans to purge all demons from Japan
>countdown starts
>you try to run
>before Nukes hit japan you are teleported to a safe place where you meet both heroes again
>leave that weird place
>you're in the future
>nuclear war broke out dooming the ENTIRE PLANET
>LnC heroes start to lean to each alignment while you try to be Neutral and bring balance
>you kill each of your friends while fighting for your ideals
>before dying they realized that they had been used
>God is mad
>causes earthquake
>new Flood happens and fucked up the entire planet again killing whatever is left
>in the end you kill Angel Gabriel and manage to bring balance or thought so
>whats left of humanity try to rebuild Tokyo in the hopes of a new and good future
>by SMT 2 you discover that there was a plot to kill Hero so one side could controle everything again, they caused a cave-in killing you meaning that your efforts to make the world good again and bring peace and happiness went to waste
>nobody remembers you besides a shitty statue
>your dog still awaits you like that japanese real story

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>>376740398
Pic related
Suffering: 40
Deserved: 20

Balrog
Suffering: 35
Deserved: 0

I think that's right. Misery and Balrog both had no choice but to follow the orders of whoever had the crown, and I'm guessing it's been for a while considering there's been a total of three past owners plus The Doctor. Although it sort of was Misery's fault for making Ballos create the crown in the first place. Balrog was sort of just caught up in the mess for as far as we know, no reason.

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>>376747735
Don't forget Heroine sacrifices herself to save you from the nukes.

>>376748417
Oh yeah I was hoping someone would correct me but not rape me for forgetting bits and pieces. And we also have our own Le Enfant Terrible made by angels who got tired of waiting for the real Jesus, kinda sad knowing that Aleph is a kid with a body of an adult and went through some shit

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Suffering: 100+
Deserved: 85

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Here's what it looks like right now. I have not added every single suggestion in the thread. James and Giygas have been considered for moving around a little bit.

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>>376740398
70 suffering
20 deserve

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>>376740398
Honestly Daimon should be at 100 Suffering, 0 Deserved. I don't get where the 65 deserved comes from, and he sure as shit is suffering more than the likes of Strelok and Adam Jensen

>His mother-figure/mentor who was the Arisen at the time goes to kill the dragon
>Succeeded, but failed to kill the seneschal, causing her to become the next dragon
>He then becomes the next Arisen after she takes his heart
>Falls in love with his master's former pawn, who became human after inheriting her soul
>When he comes to face the dragon, he is forced to choose between killing his mentor or sacrificing his love
>Rejects both choices
>The dragon interprets his words and chooses the closest one to his wish, sacrificing his love.
>His hatred and suffering festers for possibly thousands of years, creating a monstrous demon that possesses him and traps him within the depths of Bitterblack Isle, itself an illusion formed from his memories
>Even after you defeat him and release his soul, the pure hate that corrupted him still lingers, presenting itself as another optional harder boss fight

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>>376749713
Put this madman
out of this

or just
Suffering 60
deserve 100

Move Conker to
20 Deserve with the same if not -10 Suffering.

All he wanted to do was go home and most of the time ONLY acted in self defense or helping people with their questionable motives for the sake of courtesy or a favor.

He's also the fucking King of All the Land at the end of the game, so there's at least some benefits to that despite having no one he cares for nor loves being near him nor alive.

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Suffering: 65
Deserves: 65

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>No master chief

I shouldn't be surprised because 90% of /v/ has a dumb bias against halo and thinks it's just a generic dudebro shooter, but still

>abducted from his family as a child by future NSACIAFBI for the SPARTAN 2 program
>forced to undergo grueling training his entire childhood alongside other abducted kids
>Went through experimental augmentations that crippled or killed a full half of the other S2 candidates
>was sent on black ops missions with his surviving S2 teamates to act as a secret police force taking out rebels against the totalitarian UNSC from the age of 14 onwards
>Over the 25 years of the human covenant war, had to see S2 brothers and sisters be killed in action or had to sent them off to die as well as watching thousands of human lives and many human colonies be wiped out by the alien menance
>Finally, just prior to the first Halo game, suffered through Reach, the planet where he grew up and trained on, be destroyed and all but a handful of his remaining S2 comrades be killed
>had to suffer through the events of the Halo games and see the flood take over and mutate his UNSC allies
>drifted through space through nearly 10 years with no hope of recovery between Halo 3 and 4
>Had to watch his AI companion go insane due to rampancy in Halo 4 and finally watch her die
>and then see her come back as a villian in Halo 5

Somehwere between 70-90 suffering, 0-20 derserved

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Suffering: 50
Deserved: 90

>>376741695
Just agreeing with this.

>>376745695
Fucking this.

>>376750943
>Watches his series drift into irrelevancy because of 343i
>Had the spotlight stolen from him in halo 5 by some roided out ODST

Suffering: FUCKING NOTHING, 10, AT MOST
Deserved: 1000

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>>376751474
Image got ate by my anger.

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How the heck is Hanako suffering more than Madotsuki?

Dumb waifufags.

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0 suffering (now)
Deserves 100.

Fuck this bitch.

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>born with the ability to see and control ghosts
>parents die at age of 5
>have to live alone on an island with a bunch of ghosts
>everyone calls her a possesed girl who killed her parents
>have to work to make rent to keep her island at the age of 12
>constantly get shit jobs with shit pay and treated like garbage because everyone believes she's possessed
>no friends
>still nice to everyone
Suffering: 80
Deserving: 0-5

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suffering: 90
Deserves: 0

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A more complex character.
>Suffering: 90
>Deserving: 60

>>376751935
this guy needs to get in

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>>376751935

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Deserve 10
Sufffering 100

>>376751565
Errrrric SPARRRROOOWWW

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>>376740398
He never had enough.

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>>376740398
40 deserves
60 suffering
most of AWWNB in the game were shell shocked veterans and genuinely wanted to make the world a better place, but Pixy stood out as one of the few in the organisation that seemed to really want a better world and his final interview reeks of feels stemming from his broken ideals and his search to mend them
his methods was near omnicide, but his goal was noble, and despite all that he turned his back on that and joined the 'good guys' once again even if its likely he was still suffering from everything
plus he still saw you as his old buddy even after everything

>>376752584
typo
meant to put 80 suffering

>>376751619
This

>>376751935

2nding this. He needs to be in.

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>>376740398

suffered 100 deserved 55

>>376742939

this, the Mayor is /v/'s equivalent to Clarissa's dad

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100% suffering
0% deserved

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>>376740398
100 suffering, 20 deserved, 200% rage

>>376740398
Mac being on there is already invalidates this chart. At least take this serious if you're going to make a chart about suffering.
"Haha, so funny, he can't recover!"

Fucking dumbass.

>Ragna, Zero, and Riku deserved it more than Goat Boy and Kirby (Extremely genocidal out of pure angst.)
Did I miss something?

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>>376751935

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100 suffering, 100 deserving

>>376747821
Although, I figured Misery would most likely get a higher deserve rating since she pushed Ballos to the point of creating the crown, which is which started the entire mess in the first place. I'd say at least 35, if not 40.

But yeah, Balrog was a 0. Dude saves your ass and wants to live with you after you beat his ass numerous times. Good guy.

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Suffering 70
Deserved 15

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Suffering 100
Deserved 0

>>376753916
Balrog force fed Toroko the red flowers and got King killed, fuck him he has some level of deserving

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Suffering: -5
Deserves: 100

>Aria
>100
Why?

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suffered 25
deserved 100

>>376754154
I would put him in the middle on both accounts

>>376754289
I took someone else's word for it.

>>376754281
I guess I'll put her somewhere underneath the chart. It'd be funny.

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Suffering: 65
Deserves: 15

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Chibi: suffered 100, deserved 100

Caveman: suffered 30, deserved 5

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suffering: 80
Deserving: 80

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Suffering: 0-10
Deserves: 60+

>hordes every banana in the jungle out of greed
>half the bosses are minding their own business before he pisses them off

>>376754372
That's what I was thinking; like maybe underneath the one hundred.

>>376754281
You mean from her point of view, yes?

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100 suffering
I don't know how much he deserved it though

>>376753916
Yeah I actually forgot to consider that a lot of shit that went on in the game wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for her. Shit like Toroko's and King's death and all that.

>>376745695
>Huey
>only 20 suffering
The dude was blacklisted by his only friends, accidentally killed his wife, later remarried and got cucked by his own son then drown himself in his pool.
Thats at least 50 suffering.

>>376740398
Lord Yuna from Breath of Fire 4 deserves the 0 Suffering / 100 Deserve To Suffer corner.

I'll admit I'm quite a bit behind right now. I'll try catching up more after dinner.

>>376754529

Didn't Chibi hold a "funteral" stream for Satoru Iwata's death but monetize it out the ass? As in, put it in sub mode and encourage people to make donations to him?

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Suffering: 80
Deserved: 70

>>376754746
Huey has at least 50 suffering. He clearly has mental illness. Nigga gets triggered that people are calling a wolf a dog.

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What about this guy?

>>376755014
Gay hair. Deserves whatever he suffered. 1:1 ratio

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>>376755014
suffering: 100
deserved: 20-40

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Suffering 80-90
Deserved 10

Only things she deserved were due to her own stubbornness. Otherwise, life gave her a shit hand and then kept kicking her while she was down.

>>376740398
>the only suggestion on mine that got on was CJ

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>>376740398
Suffering 35
Deserving 0

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suffering: 25
deserved: 80

>>376755421
I want to fuck his boss

Who is in 90,90? Gunther Hermann?

>>376754746
He killed her on purpose.

>>376751986
I was considering this, but is her suffering really that high?

She goes through some tough shit, totally, but for the most part she's tough enough to take it in her stride. Additionally her punishments to others tend to be disproportionate - for example she did far worse to Valentine than Valentine would've done to her IIRC. And she had her fun and got her way plenty of the time.

I'd say 50 - 70 range for Suffering.

60 Deserving is fine, she's definitely at least 40 - 50 in terms of Deserving.

>>376755617
Hunter Gherman

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Specifically TP link

Suffering 85
Deserves 0

Hes a fucking farm boy thats tossed into a clusterfuck of bullshit when he just wanted to hang with his horse and friend

>>376755617
Yeah, that's him.

>>376755181
Maybe even less.
>became vessel because he was at wrong place at wrong time
>orphan moved around for years
>when he finally finds purpose and friends it turns out it all was a ruse and it's all his fault that things escalated to this level, what's worse, it's completely unconscious
>actually somewhat helps some people fix their lives
>trying to fix problems which he caused he sells his soul to seal of a murderous demon that almost brought apocalypse to the world
>forever trapped as the door on the way to death of whole mankind
Being door-kun is suffering.

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suffering: 55
deserved: 30

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Suffering: 15
Deserves: 50

Emil

Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0

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>literally eternity of loneliness (Illias)
>on the same scale of a burnt bitch

>>376750831
>Suffering: 14
>Deserved: 88

>>376751619
>>376752742
>>376755935
I guess she'll bumped down some.

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suffering: 35
Deserves: 80

he only gets fucking sued

That faggot deserved to get his entire backstory that he and smoke made up proven wrong by sweet and CJ before being thrown out of san andreas like the trash he is.

>>376755993
>vision of an empire destroyed
>lose and arm and a leg
>eyes get fucked up
>best friend lies to him and abandons him
>live the rest of his life trying to kill said best friend
>only 14 suffering
ok.

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Suffering: 65
Deserves: 20

>>376755729
>TP
>Not windwalker
>kid minding his fucking business, then her sister gets kidnapped by evil sorcerer trying to overcome his fate, who can only be defeated by the hero
>Has to join a crew of pirates, part from home, and become the fucking hero of the legends to rescue his sister
>Then because he's the hero he has to fulfill the prophecy and rescue the girl and stab the evil sorcerer in the face
>A fucking 8~10 year old kid

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Suffering : 90
Deserved : I don't know. When it happened he had no faults in the slightest, the only reason he even turned out to be what he became was strictly because of the trauma, so your call.

>>376756228
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZY7QCBMWoE
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

>>376754746
The fucker suffocated his own wife and was the one who released the parasites. Lies constantly so that Kaz and Revolver constantly need to break out the electrodes.

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suffering 100
Deserves 0

Guy just wanted a boatride with his friends.

>>376754746

Yeah, Huey is a massive shitbag but he suffered quite a bit for it.

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>>376756290
Windwaker link is higher than an 85

Or maybe a bit lower. He did get something out of that pirate gang

>>376752584
Weird fact: They had a different actor for the live action and the voice only parts for some unknown reason.

>>376756418
how the fuck is this 100

why are you guys so shit at scale.
100 should be "existance is pain and everyone I know is dead directly because of something I did, also I have no mouth and I must scream"

>>376740398
How is Red on there but not the Kid. Isshigydiggy

>>376755845
Add some to deserves, because he worked with the cockroaches.

>>376756875
People on v have almost never experienced real suffering m8

>>376756983
Where would /v/ itself go on the chart? I'm not adding it but I want to see what people would say.

>>376757108
>actual suffering 10-30
>deserves 50-60

>>376740398
I think the dude from Spec Ops: The Line should be higher on the Y-axis. Dropsy had it bad, but I don't see how he suffered more than a dude who had his Squad wiped out, had to chose an innocent life to kill, walked through the remains of the rebels who died by fucking white phosphorus. It also looked like his eyes were fucked and hearing was too. Even if he survived, he'd probably sit in a mental ward for the remainder of his life.

>>376757182
yes, but those were all his fault. I mean, that is the whole point of the game

>>376757173
the board suffers only by the hand of itself
both ratings should be the exact same

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>>376757108
suffering: 10-40
deserves: 40-80

some of you are real human scum.

>>376757387
nah some really shitty people on here, deserves should definitely be higher.

>>376755729
>>376756554
>goes on adventure
>taking quarter hearts of damage while carrying four fairies, no real dangers
>none of his loved ones die
>becomes rich and famous and saves the day
>stock happy ending
wow so much suffring u guise ;_; i crey everytim

>>376757108
True neutral, 50/50. Nobody's here because they want to, but we're still stuck here.

>>376756875
Getting turned into a vegetable because of a cursed hat and watching your friends suffering just trying to save you isnt a full 100 I will warrant you that. But what is it exactly?

>>376757491
those shitty people are still part of /v/ and thus are making it suffer

>>376757573
like a 50-70 depending on how you look at it.

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Suffering: 85
Deserved: 10

>>376757761
reading shit on a message board isn't suffering my dude.

>>376757852
oh, i thought we were talking about the board itself, not the people on it

>>376757513
>none of his loved ones die

OoT link will beg to differ

>>376757979
Inanimate objects can't suffer, so it would be a 0/40 (or whatever deletion would be on a suffer-o-meter)

i was meaning /v/ as a embodiement of everyone who uses it.

>>376758131
yeah alright then you're probably right

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Suffering: 95
Deserving: 0

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where does Abe fit?

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Suffering : 40
Deserved: 70

>>376758348
>>376758359
Abemind. Pretty damn close to the top left corner, I'd say. He doesn't do much of anything wrong and surely suffers a lot.

>>376755262
Bruh

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Suffering: 20
Deserving: 90

>>376757382
I never disagreed with How much he deserves it, I just think he endured more suffering than Dropsy and J.C.

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suffering: 20-30
deserves: 5
he's just a dude with anger issues who wants his fucking flag back, doesn't deserve to get diddled as much as he does

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Suffering: 75
Deserves: 15

>>376758551
fuck that cunt i was happy when i was able to run him down at the end of *i think it was * Spyro 2

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Suffering: 65
Deserving: 65

Guy died a "hero" and has to redeem his name

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Place him

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Suffering : 100
Deserved: 10

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Suffering: 70
Deserving: 20

>>376758520
Yes?

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Suffering: 25
Deserving: 0

>>376758724
He's definitely a 100, 0 candidate

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Suffering: 90
Deserved: 25

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>>376745695
>Huey Emmerich
What ever did he do in MGSV? In all of the threads when MGSV came out I saw how he deserved everything that happened to him and that he was a awful human being

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Suffering: 10
Deserving 5

>>376759010
Killed Strangelove, betrayed MSF/DD all the time, made you kill a bunch of your own soldiers, called a dog a wolf for no reason. He was a fuckin' psycho in V for some reason.

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Suffers: 55
Deserves: 40
Is this right, /v/? I'm honestly not quite sure.

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>>376750093
Seconding this, Richter went through much more than he should have.
He just wanted to take care of his ma.

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Suffering 35
Deserves 10

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>>376759010
>Killed his wife and tried to play victim
>Blamed any misdoing of his own on everyone else
>Tried to pull a mutiny when he was found out
>Ruined one of the climactic scenes in the game by trying to take credit for an achievement he never had anything to do with.

The man was more deserving of death than Skullface

Why aren't the 40 incarnations of Snake on here?

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Suffering: 75
Deserved: 5

>>376759131
He suffers waaay more than that, he doesn't deserve it that much he deserves it like 30

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Suffering: 70
Deserves: 60

>>376759448
The dude was Caesar's most brutal legate, remember.

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Suffering: 0
Deserves: 90

>>376758767

Eh. I would say he isn't 100 suffering. He was able to choose to martyr himself, which is more than some people.

Plus, he got let out eventually.

>>376759563
>Got let out eventually

...when was this? As far as I knew he was stuck there even after P4AU.

>>376753109
Bernkastel was a total manipulative sadistic cunt who was only in it for her own amusement and revenge she deserved everything she got. You're describing Rika

>>376759131
>Mormon follower of the apocolypse that left to help ceaser
>Failed to take the dam from the NCR at the first battle of hoover damn
>Thrown into the grand canyon after being covered in pine tar and set on fire
>Survived by what seems to be divine intervention
>Every day his skin has a major burning sensation that cant be stopped
>He has to watch over two groups of tribals, one of them getting bullied by another tribe
>His only friend that isnt a tribal is a pussy.

I dont really think thats a 55

He gets turned into a hollow after sacrificing his own soul and his bloodline are all either imprisoned, cursed or killed. He did curse all of humanity though after betraying them, and he fucked up the rest of the world forever. I'd say 60/60 on both.

>>376759524
Ok, I'll change it to Suffers 55, Deserves 65.

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Suffering 40
Deserves 30

>>376741695
Mother 3 is a punch to the guts.

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I'd say he'd fit in around 50/50.

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Suffering: 85
Deserved: 60

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>suffering
35
>deserves
10

>little mac
>low suffering
Guy is a manlet

Suffering: 75
Deserving: 5

>>376759532
Excellent choice.


I am willing to get every last spot filled up.

>>376757812
Character is Atrus from the Myst series, by the way. Forgot to mention that.

>>376759718
>>376759739
Alright, change that shit to Suffers 70, Deserves 65.

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Someone update the chart

>>376759391
you forgot a name and pic

>>376758724
30 suffering
100+ deserving

>>376759851
Give me a few minutes.

>>376759915
remember to >>376759843

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Suffers 50
Deserves 30

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95 suffering
0 deserving

Anthony Burch

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Suffering: 45
Deserving: 95

>>376760131
Suffering : Cuck
Deserved : Battleborn

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>>376740398
Melia from Xenoblade
Suffering: 95
Deserve: 0

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Suffering: 30
Deserving: 100

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solid 65 suffering
debatable 30 deserved

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I'll have to admit I'm falling quite a bit behind now. Note that not only some characters have been added, but some of those that were already in the image have been relocated. I'm about to leave for a little while, too. If the thread gets archived I'll probably make another one tomorrow with a more updated chart.

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Suffering: 55
Deserving: 30

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Suffering 50-60
Deserving 10

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Suffering 90
Deserves 30

fucker is part of a race of heretical elves that tried to spit in the face of the gods and got wiped out because of it

Came back from oblivion and couldnt find his people, got infected with corprus and then found and kept in the basement of a mushroom tower with a bunch of corprus infected monsters as a novelty of some ancient asshole who fucks his four daughters on a regular basis

>>376760528
take it easy OP

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Suffering 30-35
Deserving 40-50

>>376760528
Nice work. This is beautiful OC and you are wonderful for undertaking it!

>>376760432
0 before revenge
50 after

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>>376760528
Why is Manny Pardo at 100 deserved?

>>376761028
memes aside he really does do it all to himself
I guess you could argue he's mentally unsound but that doesn't excuse how many people, good and bad, he kills in cold blood.

>>376742780
I dont get it either, he was just going with his programming.

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Suffering: 80
Deserve: 40
Lost 2 war buddies, lost his best friend in a nuclear explosion, mentally unstable, forced into 50 Blessings to kill Russian mobsters, girlfriend he rescues gets killed later on

>>376761028
here's my badge

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Suffering 65
Deserved 5

She was an old woman who was torn out of her vault when super mutants attacked. dropped into a vat and became a nightkin. Did what the master told her and became a bighorn herder after the master's army fell. has to deal with psychological issues like crazy due to taking half doses of her meds because she would otherwise lose the memory of her grandchildren or become a raving beast if she stopped or took her full dosage.

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>>376760102
suffering 100
deserving 10 for allowing a cult to form to support him I guess

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Suffrage 80
Deserved 95

>>376761829
>Suffrage 80
Are Archviles not allowed to vote yet?

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>>376761681
>>376761681

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Put Venom Snake in there

Suffering 95
Deserved 0

He was exfiltrated from a battlezone by Big Boss and through hardwork became the best soldier their army ever had. His loyalty to the boss was so strong he jumped in front of an explosion without a second thought to save him.

Not only did he lose his arm, had 108 foreign materials stuck into him with one of them just sticking out of his head but he was forced into losing his identity and living in a world of double-truth to protect the boss. Just to make things worse he was constantly hunted down by every other pmc and had every warcrime in the book pinned to his name. Eventually the soldier that Big Boss sent in to clear his name ended up killing him and destroying everything he built over the years

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CO Bradford, XCOM 2

Suffering: >60
Deserved: <20

Had to spend 15+ years as a guerrilla fighter because the council fucked him over and only stood a chance when the Commander was rescued. Also had to watch all of his friends die.

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~20 suffering
~90 deserved

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>giygas is somehow less than 100% deserving

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>>376740398
Nier
Suffering: 90
Deserve: 45
He was kind of a single-minded prick but as far as he was aware, he was doing the right thing. Sure it led to the death of the human race and his erasure from everyone's consciousness but things were out of his control.

>>376762408
Some blame goes to George for cucking him out of Maria.

How is Bea at 55 Deserved
the only thing she does wrong is smoke right

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45 deserving, 70 suffering
signed up for the mars test site to get away from her abusive boyfriend only to get caught up in esper shenanigans. Has the potential to plunge the world into an apocalypse scenario where she will die cooing her new boyfriend into saving everything. If that does not happen, she will tank 18 inches to give birth to a daughter that could help save the world -- in another dimension. Also, the stress involved with deciding to push the button or not

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Aleph

>Suffering 100
Literally in a never-ending cycle of torture, death, and reincarnation.

>Deserving 10

>>376762545
I blame whoever suggested her in the first place.

>>376753093
The mayor died a slow, horrible, painful death though.
That's at least 30 suffering.

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Suffering: 40 or 30
Deserving: 20 or 30

All I gotta say right now that my own biggest beef with this chart at the moment are whoever gets to be in the bottom right corner and around the top left corner. There are some very good choices for those spots.

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Suffering: 100
Deserving: 100000000000000000000

>>376742939
30/80
He's a selfish cunt but he's not pure evil and his death was pretty fucking awful.

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>Suffering: off the fucking charts
>Deserving: no

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Suffering: 90
Deserving: 30

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>>376740398
Ragna should be pushed back on the "deserving" scale. All he did was fucking exist and he literally had to be deleted from the existence just so everybody he loved could be happy. If anyone's been dealt unfair bullshit, it's him.

Why does the 'I have no Mouth' guy deserve suffering?
Is the game different from the short story?

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Suffering: 40
Deserving: 100

>>376761000
It's only moonshits, 30 deserved at most

>>376759030
kek

Just want to say that this is a good idea. Thank you for doing this, I whole heartedly enjoy it.

>>376763290
Our punishment must be more severe.

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What would megaman be? I'd assume something near the bottom left like 20/20 or so

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>Suffering: 25
>Deserving: 100/off the chart

>>376763290
>Suffering: 40
Yeah right
It's like 10 at most

>>376762221
I mean, before he was venom he still signed up to work for a nuke wielding army. I'd put him at at least 15 deserved.

Still got fucked over badly though, poor lad.

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Suffering: 25
Deserved: 95

>>376763497
I don't see how Mega Man deserves any suffering. He didn't really suffer that much either, the classic series was pretty lightheared. It's the later series where people suffer.

>>376763170
What did Kevin "Rolls" Costner do to deserve his fishy fate?

>>376763802
He shoots the fuck out of a bunch of mutants that seem to just be protecting their home

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70 Suffering
100 Deserving

>>376763594
Yeah agreed.

Though he was operating as a combat medic most likely 100% voluntarily. Considering he had the best stats in every single category I don't think they'd force him into being a simple medic. The guy basically choose to save lives instead of ending them in the battlefield.

Also I doubt he had much choice. He was a really good soldier that got exfiltrated and had literally nothing else to do at life outside fighting. Maybe put him at 10 deserved?

How is Mae so far up the "deserving" side? She clearly has underlying mental issues.

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Suffering: 75
Deserving: 35
He did cheat on his wife and owned slaves but that wasn't worth sicking a vampire on him damning him to a life of war, and he treated the slaves well.

>>376740398
>Ragna that high in deserving suffering
All he wanted was to protect his family, and then both his arms get cut off, he's tormented and killed multiple times, and in the end has to erase himself from existence.

>>376764037
So does Trevor

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Suffering 100
Deserving 0

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This is Ludger Will Kresnik. His life fucking sucks.

Deserving: 20
Suffering: 90

>>376764239
Oh please. Clem deserves some suffering for sure. She become a black mailer as soon as she grow up.

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This is Velvet Crowe. Her life sucks just a bit more.

Deserving: Anywhere from 10 to 30.
Suffering: Probably 100 by the end of the game.

>>376740398
>Asriel
>Deserving any suffering whatsoever for being a child who was corrupted by Satan himself who also tried to kill Asriel's dad

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Is Papa Nier on there?

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Suffering: 95
Deserving: 45

>>376740398
Why isn't anthony birch in top right, and todd howard bottom right???

>>376744235
Give him a break nigga he has a mansion full of ghosts to clear out

>>376764504
>>376762476
Not yet.

>>376763681
Yeah I just kinda threw out a number because most of the bottom left spots are taken.
The absolute worst he's done was threaten to kill wily at the end of 7 and maaaaaaybe 9 since the robot masters weren't actually evil. But he didn't know that anyway.
20's pretty low on the suffering scale, I think. A mild struggle like his adventures are would qualify for that imo.

>>376763027
fuck that guy. every new playthrough i pop a 10mm round in his skull just for existing.

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Where would he be?

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We all can agree this guy fits in the 100 deserve and 0 suffering spot.

>>376764836
like 50/90 or something

>>376764239
hah
nah

>>376754957

I was about to >implying for that deserved, but then I remembered that in the context he willingly made a deal with the devil. It was for pure causes though

Deserved 50 at best

>>376764892
i think that being in ME3 is enough suffering

>>376764239
Not even close to 100