Was having so much fun with this game, when suddenly it turned

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>>376694249
I wouldn't say it ruins the experience for me, backtracking is something I've somewhat gotten used to, and its in a lot of games that people hold high regard to. TTYD is no exception for sure. I don't remember exactly what was on the island but Chapter 4 and Chapter 7( with General White) are the worst cases of backtracking that I remember.

>>376694249
Yeah it got a bit tedious at some point but still enjoyed it through the end. Loved the bosses and music. Was it like this in the first paper mario?

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>>376694249
OP, you are a complete baitch. Explain to me a game that has backtracking but is not ruined by it, then elaborate on how that differs from Paper Mario 2.

>>376694249
>>376695590 here

The ridable yoshi helped a lot though

>>376695410
>I don't remember exactly what was on the island
You gotta go get Bobbery by reaching the end of the island area, then get him the Chuckola Cola by heading to the start but to get that you need the Coconut which you may not have so you have to go back to the middle of the whole area (the bridge area) to get it and then go back to the beginning, then you get Bobbery and have to head back to the beginning again to get Flavio and then you're finally done and go in the Pirate's Grotto.

>>376695590
>Was it like this in the first paper mario?
Not really, with the exception of Chapter 6's Flower Fields it was pretty good about backtracking and any you were doing was pretty brief and the little spinning move that makes you faster helped even more.

>>376695701
Too bad you lose him during Chapter 4 making it relatively slow, even with the Tube curse.

>>376696125
B-but I loved chapter 4. It was a cool twist even though I had to run back and forth to the castle. You're right though, shadow mario should have something to move faster. Vivian helped to avoid a lot of encounters still.

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Would you guys like to see another game with the classic Paper Mario formula but as a new IP? No Mario involved.

>>376696729
Actually I'm surprised there's not any clones. I love the turn based, though simple combat and the writing.

>>376696125
Sounds pretty backtracky, but I need to play through it again.
>>376696729
A simple, cohesive RPG in the gameplay style of Paper Mario would be lovely.

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>>376696571
I love Chapter 4 also, I'm just mentioning it due to the backtracking. Honestly it'd probably be the best chapter in the series to me if it had more to it since it's already dope enough as it is:
>Spooky area with nice design, atmosphere and music
>Curse turning people into pigs
>Optional Atomic Boo fight
>Doopliss in general
>Doopliss stealing your identity & partners
>You teaming up with someone who was originally a bad guy

If it didn't have backtracking and so much was new was happening 90% of the time I'd suck that chapter's dick so much more than I already am.

>>376696729
I think part of the charm of the Paper Mario series is it being Mario to begin with since you see what are usually enemies as NPCs and partners but yeah, sure, I'm desperate after playing >>376696749 so I'd be fine with it. I found the gameplay & style it had going to be fun to begin with.

>>376696571

The best parts of Chapter 4 were good despite the backtracking. On replays it's kinda dull because you already know what's happening and its abundently apparent you're just going back and forth as filler to boost the length of what is one of the smallest chapters in the series.

They might have been better off axing a few crap chapters(e.g. chapter 2 and 7) and making what the good ones bigger and better. Like Twilight Town could have been larger and have 2 Crystal Stars.

>>376696832
South park tried it

>>376695641
any game that makes you go to the same zone but with a good excuse: new powers so you can try them on a zone that was hard before, the zone has changed...
and also it need to be faster than the first time you were there (unlocking shortcuts after you beat the zone the first time, new powers to delete your enemies faster than before...)

Examples of good backtracking: most of metroids

What i didn't like about TTYD is that everytime you went to a place, you used a pipe or some kind of vehicle. You never walked to any of these area's anymore, which made it feel less of an adventure, to me. Paper Mario 64 didn't have that as much. Still, they're both great.

>>376698586
I had the same problem with M&L Partners in Time compared to Superstar Saga.
In the first game the entire world felt more connected and the the second game you basically have a hub world with a bunch of portals.
I don't like hub worlds as much.