>Re used Assets : The Game Is it me or does this shit just

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>>376686826
Dude SWAMPS everywhere LMAO XDD

Ya, felt like hodge podge of bloodborne and souls. Prolly the least amount of fun i had in a souls game. At least two had good faith powers before nerf and some interesting weapon choice.

>>376686826
Every game in the series is just a few really spectacular things coupled with some completely baffling choices. And each game excels and and messes up at different things.

It's why arguments about the best game always get stupid, because for every criticism you can launch at one game, there are as many that can be launched at yours.

>>376687612
>each game excels and and messes up at different things
it's so frustrating

>>376686942
What fucking asshole made this shit so misaligned?

>>376686826
Its a fanservice sequel, if you didnt get it already

But dont get me wrong, that doesnt justify their lazy design decisions and flawed lore

>>376686826
I hate how every "hard" enemy is so hyper aggressive, but since they have no poise they all end up being beaten the exact same way. Roll spam then stunlock, it gets awfully boring and frustrating if you mess up.

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>>376686826
had fun my first play through but i couldn't bring myself to to finish the game again afterwards. Ashes of ariandel was probably the least fun i've ever had playing a dlc in my life time. Friede's marathon style was annoying as fug, even though i got her my on my first try. At least the ringed city dlc was pretty fun i guess.
>Tfw booted up bloodborne and darksouls 1 again and having a blast
>Tfw i hate dark souls 2 and even then i beat it 9 times

>>376688203
I finished DS3 just to get it done but i cant remeber jack shit from it. Nothing stood out.

>>376686826
They signed a three game contract with Namco so 3 was happening regardless of 2's reception, but they were always just another paycheck and not a passion project like Bloodborne. They got way more popular than From expected so they had actual expectations on them to make great sequels, and after the garbage fire that was Namco's handling of DaS2 development (the final build was made from scraps of an older build stitched together randomly in only six months because Namco thought it was too different from 1) they just didn't give a shit anymore. 3 is far from a bad game but it reeks of apathy, and not in the way 1 and 2 did thematically but like no one making the game cared about it.

>>376688203
yeah I know some people like it but I couldn't stand the bosses with multiple healthbars meme

shit just felt annoying

>>376686826
But OP you didn't post an image of bloodborne.

>>376689196
She'd be fine without the second phase honestly, it was just padding and felt rushed. They clearly wanted Ariandel and Friede to be separate fights at one point but combined them for whatever reason. In the trailers you could see Ariandel fighting solo in the room before the walls crumbled and he was faster and used moves he never used in the final game, plus as soon as you activate the statue to reach his chamber the whipping sounds stop and he's begging for his flail despite having it literally a second ago. It feels like another whole sequence there was cut or something.

>>376686826

Die from cancer/aids/ebola/accident you contrarian son of a whore.


BB:TOH > DaS3:TFFE > DaS:PTDE > DaS2:SOTFS > DeS

This is the most objective ranking.

>>376686826
I unironically like DaS3 more than DaS1

>>376686942
I understand what it's trying to say but the way it's said is fucking stupid

>>376686942
>literally the only reused asset in the picture is gargoyles

>>376689661
> full abbreviations
You may have autism

>>376686826
but that's the point of the game

>>376688340
Meh, it happens anon.
I remembered most of DaS3 after my first playthrough while I forgot everything in DaS except upper undead burg and the kiln.

I also finished DaS3 like 17 times, Bloodborne 12 times, DaS2 9 times, but had to force myself to finish DaS once and couldn't get past the second bell the second bell the second time.

Different taste anon.

Holy fucking shit shut up. Why are souls threads so fucking awful? Christ almighty.

>>376689661
>DaS2:SOTFS > DeS
Die, contrarian, etc.

>>376689898
The community went to shit sometime in 2012, then when DaS2 released it became complete cancer and you couldn't discuss it at all.

>>376686826
I repeated ds2 vanilla a lot of times after I finished it.

I only beat ds3 once and I can't force myself to play it again, I keep going back to bloodborne. Why is ds3 so shit?

>>376689898
It's the same faggot spamming bait threads.

>>376689470
Wow, souls games have rushed content. Neat.
Oh wait it's bad when ds3 does it though because autistic screeching.

>>376686826
>Is it just me or
It's the general consensus. The worst re-used asset for me was the Sulyvahn's Beast crocodogs which were literally little watchdogs from Bloodborne

>>376690051
Because it's the newest one and /v/ told you to hate it.

>>376690098
>it's the general consensus
Yeah, no it's not.

>>376690080
I wasn't saying it was only bad because 3 did it you sperg.

I bought the fire fades edition and got to the grand archives and stopped. The game feels derivative and not fun. All the boss fights up until Pontiff were utter shit and it feels like the game relies on even more cheap shit to make it more "difficult" i.e every enemy hitting like a goddamn truck and armor not helping at all.

>>376690098
>re-used
There's that fucking word again.

>>376690203
>long-winded speech about how Friede is garbage and how ds3 feels rushed
>b-but I wasn't talking about ds3

>>376689898
For statistical intellectual disability, this is a bait.

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>>376690098
>It's the general consensus.
lmao, 4 turbosperglords on /v/=/=general consensus. Pretty much everyone agrees that DaS3 is by far the best one, since, you know, it does everything except world design way better.

>>376690080
>Oh wait it's bad when ds3 does it though because autistic screeching.

You're retarded. It's a legitimate criticism.

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Just stop already

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>>376690370
No it's not. It's you being unsatisfied with saying and just saying "this is rushed" without having any idea what you're talking about.

>>376687612
Yes, this is true. I actually like and enjoy all 3 games; whilst I think 2 is the weakest it's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. It's good instead of really good.

>>376690327
The Gutter + Black Gulch were immensely more frustrating than Blighttown the first time through though.

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>>376686942
NOT TO COUNT

>>376690449
Unsatisfied with something*

There is a difference between re-used assets and re-used concepts. DS2 re-used concepts from 1 because it lacked creativity. DS3 re-used assets from Bloodborne because it lacked time and resources

>>376686826
no it's like it is because they tried something new with das2, and people bitched about it instead of gittin gud so they made the third one into a pale imitation of the first one like people said they wanted, and it was rushed like all from games so it has a bunch of bloodborne stuff in it.

>>376690528
The only re-used assets I can think of are the Friede twirl and the abyss watchers fire.

I liked Dark Souls 3, mainly because I don't own a PS4, but I really want to play Bloodborne (or something resembling it).

>>376690449
That wasn't what I was talking about.

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>>376690592
They even left in a bite attack which has the same animation

>>376690302
I never said DS3 felt rushed or that Friede was bad either I just said I didn't like the second phase you dong.

>>376690869
I fail to see how that's a problem.
DaS early game hollows have the exact same animations as 1-1 soldiers in DeS, and ALL of the animations.

From has always reused assets

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>>376690869
>re-used assets
>DS3:DS2
>1:30
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>>376690381
Copy/paste Souls wins

>>376690869
That's not re-used assets those. It looks the same but their attack animations are completely different.

>>376691092
>dragons
Wow. How DARE they!

>>376687072
its true though

>>376690002

You are the contrarian you dumb fuck, DaS2:SOTFS is superior to DeS, stop being nostalgia cucked son of a whore. The 3 DLC areas make DaS2 better than DeS.

>>376691092
does gough's arrow disappear during the fight?

can't remember honestly.

>>376691087
>they've always reused assets
>so it's okay to let them continue on
You know, not everyone is a fucking autistic child who wants to play the same fucking game over and over again: some of us actually wanted to see the series evolve into something more than just staying a mediocre ARPG with potential.

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>>376686942

>implying reusing ideas and assets is inherently bad

If a cookie is nice and taste, I'll want another one.

Devs reusing asses could mean they are cheap and lazy fucks, it could also mean extra time and resources to make more things.

Did FROM had the lenience to make everything brand new and original? Probably not.


pic related, it's the covenant of sunlight with all of it's assets being reused in DS2. Nobody complains about that.

>>376691359
You clearly either never liked the games that much to begin with or you're shitposting. Fuck off

Since you went full retard already with the asset comparisons, why not list the weapons too? Mail breaker, flachion, long sword been the same since DeS, can't havet hat!

>>376686826
People didn't seem to mind when Castlevania games reused the same assets for 10 years...

>>376690869
The fact that they left the multiple eyes in the alligator things model really triggered my autism, because the eyes were an essential part of the Watchdog of the Old Lords lore. You also forgot to point out that he's literally wearing Darkbeast Paarl's/Abhorrent Beast's fur. These things take away a lot of character from what was still a great game.

>>376692312
What's a "havet hat" anon? Is that a special armor?

>>376690221
This game feels like the easiest one out of them all. You might just be shit. I'm not even memeing "git gud" either, it's a legimite concern amongst tons of people that the game feels too easy

>>376691359
I guess the thing is, you're not really doing shit about it by crying on an anonymous Imageboard, you probably already bought the game and that's all they see.

>>376690221

>shitter being this mad

No wonder you hate DaS3, you can't exploit shitty mechanics of DaS, DeS and DaS2 to play it easy mode.

GIT GUD subhuman.

>>376686942
>Heide is the city that was created by the gods who left Anor Londo(Flann and Gwynevere)
>Ornstein that we have killed was an illusion
>The lighthouse was a building that was created to depict the power of Flann
>The cathedral was a building that was created as symbol of Gwynevere
>You fight the dark Ornstein in there
>The life in the city is gone and someone who uses dark magic inherited the items of Ornstein
>Blue sentinels was created by Gwynevere as a replacement for Blades of the Darkmoon
>If you look at the stained glass of that building that is located in the middle of the city you will see two figures one of them is Flann and the other one is Gwynevere, which is another proof that the city was created by them
>The statues look like Gwyn's statues

>>376693361
That's some nice bullshit you're spewing there

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>>376686826
>Is it me or does this shit just feel like an afterthought made to not end the souls series on the bad note DS2 left.

It honestly wasn't, until the DLC came around.

It's the only game in the series that's shit on this badly by the DLC so if anything it needed to be more like Dark Souls 2. In fact Soul of Cinder would still be the last opponent in the series if that were the case, because DaS2's DLCs don't move time forward, and don't commit the unforgivable sin of a Souls game not staying self-contained to its own world.

The DLC DESTROYED this game. We essentially learn nothing about DaS3's main characters or world. We learn nothing about Sulyvahn, Velka, or King Lothric. We learn nothing about Farron, Smouldering Lake or Undead Settlement. No, instead you get, not just a shitty ending to DaS and DaS2, but a ruined version of Dark Souls 3's perfect ending as well.

It had... dozens of more options and routes to take. Ashes and Ringed City just drains the game of all identity it had left and honestly cheapens most of the endings in the series.

Why.

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In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:

>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights

>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death

>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks

>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons

>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)

>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun

>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again

Should I buy the ds3 dlc?

>>376686826
Besides anor londo Das2 had more reused assets

DaS3 has been getting a weird amount of hate in these past few days and I can't for the life of me figure out what sparked it considering Ringed City released over a month ago now.

>>376686826
Not so much reused assets as much as it is reused ideas, much like Dark Souls 2.

That aside, anyone else feel that DaS3 overall is faster than Bloodborne? It's been feeling like that for me since I started replaying BB.

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>>376694343
Because literally all of it was shit and did nothing to flesh out the base game.

It even fucking replaced what was hands down, the best ending in the series in Soul of Cinder.

Search your feelings.

>>376694152
romance lore with alva and ivory king and their SOs

>>376694443
I mean the last few days specifically you dumb fucking mong.

>>376694452
Ivory King literally dicked the darkness out of Alsanna.

The man is a king in more ways than one.

>>376694474
You're just now realizing it I suppose.
Also a lot of ironic DaS2 shitposting about how it's the best game because eceleb bullshit.

>>376694152
Bossfights in 2 had a lot more player input on how they would play out whereas 3 only really has the 2 phase thing.
Things you could get the boss to do and ways you could shape the arena were pretty interesting.
There's no boss that's really like Ruin Sentinels in 3.
The animations were mostly jank though and the movesets were pretty limited.

>>376693481
Not him but he's literally right.
I'm just not sure about the Ornstein part. For me, the Ornstein in DaSII is the real Ornstein, since we know for a fact that the one in DaS was an illusion.

>>376694124
What are talking about, we know everything we need to know.
>Sully
What isn't clear exactly? He's a sociopath that found the profaned flame which made him power hungry.
>Velka
Memeshit irrelevant character. Not the mention the entire first DLC was about her.
>Lothric
What's not clear? Son of Oceiros and Gwynevere, born frail, decided to not link the fire after being influenced by a scholar, either Aldia or Sully.
>Farron Keep
It's future version of Darkroot, which is future version of Oolacile.
>Smouldering Lake
Demon Ruins/Izalith colliding with Ash lake
>Undead Settlement
A settlement of undead as said by Greyrat. Evangelists were sent there to push undeads towards the "way of the deep" since the CotD is right next to it.

As for Ringed City, it's literally the best DLC From has made, equal to old Hunters. You literally get to see the end of the age of fire, and Gael is pure kino.

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>>376689661
Literally the only people who think this way are people who've never played Demon's.

>>376695891
>What isn't clear exactly? He's a sociopath that found the profaned flame which made him power hungry.

His motivations are unclear and wanting more powerful doesn't explain the sadism. A DLC centered more on his story would tell us more about that.

>Memeshit irrelevant character. Not the mention the entire first DLC was about her.

2/10 shit Vaati impression.

>What's not clear? Son of Oceiros and Gwynevere, born frail, decided to not link the fire after being influenced by a scholar, either Aldia or Sully.

I mean Oceiros. I want to see what happened to Gwynevere, I want to learn about the angels of Lothric, and I want to see what he looked like before his mutation. That's honestly a lot of things to cover in a DLC so I imagine it would take an entire one to cover it.

If you'll notice not all of Lothric is accessible either. It could be a good change in atmosphere and grant more places to explore without changing the setting.

>Farron Keep, Smouldering Lake, Undead Settlement

You're just explaining what those locations are, and not how they are.

>>376695891
Also just realizing I said Velka, I meant Gertrude. My mistake.

>>376696752
>His motivations are unclear and wanting more powerful doesn't explain the sadism.
His motivation are pretty clear tho. He wanted power, became friends with Aldritch, locked Trapshit so Slugman can eat him, declared himself pontiff. With nobody to oppose him, he could keep gaining power and study the profaned flame.
>2/10 shit Vaati impression.
Not an argument. Velka has always been irrelevant. /v/ has a hardon for her because one youtuber couldn't stop talking about her. But she's just that, a rogue deity. Cathedral of the deep was initially a place where she was revered, but this is no longer the case, and we have her statue in undead settlement, locked in a sewer.
>I mean Oceiros.
He was obsessed with creating a worthy heir. Lothric came, not worthy, Oceiros started fucking around with dragonshit, made a hybrid baby to Gwynevere, and went crazy.
>what happened to Gwynevere
She fucked off somewhere, just like she did in DaS.
>I want to learn about the angels of Lothric...what he looked like before his mutation
Well, you can want many things. I wanted to see how the witch of izalith became the BoC, or the origins of Ceaseless, or how Capra Demon made his way from demon ruins to undead burg.
>That's honestly a lot of things to cover in a DLC so I imagine it would take an entire one to cover it.
They can make tens of DLC for every soulsborne game anon. They chose these themes. I couldn't give a shit about Artorias le cringewalker, yet I'm not complaining about the DLC being called Artorias of the Abyss when there were plenty of more interesting things to explore.
>You're just explaining what those locations are, and not how they are.
What does that mean? Did you at least understand that Lothric is the place where "the transitory lands of the lords of cinder converge"? It's literally the first cinematic. Lords of cinders have their lands, they converge together making a big mess since the fire fades.

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>hating on From All-Stars: The best of Soulsborne
DS3 is their most complete and polished product by far

>>376697241
>His motivation are pretty clear tho. He wanted power, became friends with Aldritch, locked Trapshit so Slugman can eat him, declared himself pontiff. With nobody to oppose him, he could keep gaining power and study the profaned flame.

You didn't say his motivation. Fact is, the game doesn't tell you it. It doesn't say why he wants so much fucking power in the first place.

In fact they could just have an NPC say what happened in Sulyvahn's past that changed him, it doesn't have to be him, obviously. People aren't just born with a voracious appetite for power though.

>Not an argument. Velka has always been irrelevant.
>>376696960

I already know /v/ has a massive hateboner for her.

>He was obsessed with creating a worthy heir.

I'm really only talking like, 30 seconds of dialogue in a flashback. It's not necessary he be completely active.

>She fucked off somewhere, just like she did in DaS.

This isn't DaS and she has most definitely been through some changes that are worth seeing and hearing.

> Did you at least understand that Lothric is the place where "the transitory lands of the lords of cinder converge"?

Honestly didn't remember that line

>>376698003
Literally the only game worse than das3 is das2

>>376698003
The lategame areas are too minimal to really be called finished and the game has too many obvious bugs and obviously halfassed ideas to be called polished.

>>376688340
Irithyl should be the one thing you remember even if it was just a blue Yharnam

>>376698328
The only areas that are minimal are profaned capital (people forget the whole purpose of the entire irithyll dungeon is to get there) and Kiln (which is clearly deliberate)

>>376698959
Anor Londo and Consumed King's garden are very minimal as well.
Darkened firelink shrine is also a retread though it is purposeful.
Irithyll dungeon may come before profaned capital but the area is still barely there.

>>376699317
Everything between Pontiff and Aldrich is Anor Londo, the name just doesn't show until you see the cathedral. During invasions there are no fog walls anywhere in-between. I'll give you the garden, though that's an optional area

>>376689661
>DeS the worst
Opinions like this should be a crime

>>376699671
The preceding area is just a courtyard, a large square box with crocodogs, a small rooftop area populated by silver knights and the darkmoon tomb though.
It's not exactly nothing but it also isn't that much either when the courtyard and rooftop are the only original part and the rest is anor londo without most of anor londo.

>>376686942
I accept the Gargoyles, Ornstein, Najka and the Sunlight Altar, but
- Patches is a running gag and not even really in the game
- Crestfallen is also in every game
- wyverns are also everywhere
- the fight with Sinh is vastly different, what's the point? Both have weapons that pierced them?
- Silver Knights and Alonnes guards are also not the same, their just knights in armor
- the one statue is Gwyn and the other is just dude with greatsword, what is wrong with you? The sword looks pretty similar, but what do you expect when the game is made of random assets because of time issues?
- every game has a fucking poisen level and the Gutter doesn't really feel like Blighttown. Does it really bother you that both have wooden structures?

And for the record, I think DaS2 is the weakest of the five Soulsborne games. So don't even start with the defense force shit.

>love Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1
>middling opinions on Demon's Souls
>completely dissapointed with 2
>have absolutely zero desire to even play 3
I can't tell if I'm burned out or what, but 3 just does not interest me in any way. I don't think the series should have had numbered sequels.

>>376686826
>DS2
>bad note
sure thing Jamal

>>376701925
Najka fight isnt even remotely similar to Quelag.They are just both half insectoids, nothing else is the same.

>>376703373
Well, thanks for further proving my point. I don't know why I acknowledged Najka as copy and paste.

>>376686826

Just enjoy the fucking game, spaz. I'm on my 7th playthrough, shit is fun

>>376703115
Imagine having such shit taste you actually believe this.
Oh wait, you don't have to imagine.