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>Game 1 is good >Game 2 is the fucking GOAT >Game 3

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>Game 1 is good
>Game 2 is the fucking GOAT
>Game 3 is beyond awful

Why does this always happens?
The only exception I can think of is DMC.
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>The only exception I can think of is DMC.

Off the top of my head:

Tony Hawk Pro Skater
Max Payne (fuck you 3 was good)
Silent Hill
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat
Gran Turismo
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>>376655619
>Tony Hawk Pro Skater
Please explain to me how 3 was not the worse in the series?
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>>376655394
Pic unrelated or you seriously have shit taste
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>>376655394
Sure as fuck not true for the Souls series.
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>>376655394
I would say Sonic, but 1 was great, 2 was good, and 3 was GOAT.
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>>376655394
ssx3
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Publishers not learning from terrible Hollywood trilogies.
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Dark Souls
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>>376655724

2 is the version plebs say is the best purely because they stopped playing after that. 3 elevated the series to true arcade fun status, and at this point 2 exists purely as nostalgia bait that's already been outdone by the Skate series.
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>>376655394
>Why does this always happens?
Literally Super Mario, Zelda and Metroid destroy this argument.

Even their jumps into 3D destroy this argument.
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>>376655394
Jak.
>Game 1 is the fucking GOAT
>Game 2 is beyond awful
>Game 3 is good

R&C
>Game 1 is good
>Game 2 is the fucking GOAT
>Game 3 is fucking GOATier
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>>376655394
Anon, For a Few Dollars More for sure underrated, but fuck, you can't just imply that The Good, The Bad, and Ugly is anything other than a masterpiece. Even on /v/, contrarianism: the board, that kinda shit ain't cool.
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>>376655394
Bioshock
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>>376655394
Jak 2 is not awful, but it's easily the weakest one in very solid series.
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>>376655394
Metal Gear Solid 3 is best Metal Gear Solid.
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>literally Dark Souls
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Dark Souls

Oh wait, is this thinly veiled "we pretend DaS2 isn't complete garbage" thread?
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>>376655394
I SEE YOU LIKE TO PLAY CASTLEVANIA
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>>376656060
>>376656109
>Jak 2 is worst
Is it bad I actually like this one the best out of the trilogy?
I grew up with all three but I went back and replayed them not too long ago an 2 felt the most cohesive. It wasn't as basic bitch as Jak 1 when it came to platforming and combat and it didn't constantly turn into a fucking racing/car-combat game like Jak 3 did. Plus, the gun play was SOOOO much better than 3's "Spam Beam Reflexor 2 win". Granted the yellow gun was still OP, but you at least had to aim unlike in Jak 3.

Fuck the difficulty curve in 2 though. That shit is fucking spastic at best. The Onin game fucked my dyslexic ass hard as kid.
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>>376655394
Pic fucking not related, right?
I seriously hope to fucking God, /v/.
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>>376655394
Fallout.
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>>376655394
I seriously do not like your implications
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>>376655394
Fits just cause and fallout very much.
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>>376656667
Don't blame /v/ since many on /tv/ also think Few Dollars More is superior to Good Bad Ugly
They're right too
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>elder scrolls

>first one is awful
>second one is alright
>third one is gotyayeyfeae
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>>376656025
came here to post this
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>Don't blame /v/ since many on /tv/ also think Few Dollars More is superior to Good Bad Ugly
>They're right too
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>>376655394
You better not be calling The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly shit
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>>376655619
>silent hill 3 awful
You got me to reply, good job
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>>376655394
Fable
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>>376657268
>Reading comprehension
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>Game 1 is good
>Game 2 and 3 arguably have some improvements over 1, but because they are no longer wholly original and are just building on what 1 established, they are not nearly as interesting anymore

You know what I'm talking about.
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>>376657096
Yeah, but both are great, and Once Upon A Time in the West is better than both either way.
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>>376655394
sonic
mother
mario
burnout
mega man
fzero
these all disprove that, just off the top of my head
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>>376657453
I guess Mass Effect?
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age of empires

and i still can't point my finger at what exactly was so trash about 3, but i know that i needed 15mins to realise that i'll probably never play it again.
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>game 1 is a fantastic adventure Monster raising RPG
>Game 2 is a great, albeit slow turn based grid adventure dragon quest style RPG
>Game 3 is a traditional JRPG with small notes of monster raising.
>Game 4 is a multiplayer Action Adventure RPG in which you are now the monster.

What the fuck were they thinking with Game 3.
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>>376657096
>Don't blame /v/ since many on /tv/ also think Few Dollars More is superior to Good Bad Ugly
>They're right too

>/tv/
>ever being right
Yeah naw. 2 is for underrated as fuck, but it's not anywhere near as good nor iconic as 1 or 3.

1 is simple as fuck but it has everything it needs and nothing it doesn't. It's a movie with all the fat trimmed, all that's left is lean-mean muscle. It may be just a translation of Yojimbo, but it just works. Nothing else I need to say here. It's the best example of "less is more" I can think of.

3 is almost a perfect movie. Not only does it have some of the most iconic scenes and cinematography in film history, it also has some of the most iconic scores too. I mean yeah, the FaFDM theme is good, no doubt, but it can't fucking compare to the trilogy that is The Trio, The Ecstasy of Gold, and GBU theme. Those are fucking legendary in there own right and used perfectly in the movie. Even in terms of story, it's a WHOLE LOT more involved than 1, but shit, everything has it's place and it fits together just right just like in 1. It's got some fat, yeah, but that fat just adds to the flavor of the meat.

In comparison to either of these, 2 feels like a half-measure. If you want a good simple western with nothing extraneous, you're probably going to like 1 the most. If you like a more complicated western with a more involved plot, then you're going to like 3 more. Of course, 2 has aspects of both 1 and 3, but in nowhere near the same quantity/quality. 2 is a jack of all, master of none. Good movie, but nowhere near the best in the trilogy.

/tv/ needs to stop being so fucking contrarian.
>inb4 f-food analogies!
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>>376655619
DKC
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>>376655394
nigga are you actually saying that The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is beyond awful?
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>>376655394
>Game 3 is beyond awful

wrong.
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>>376657453
Dark Souls
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>>376658638
Yeah, it was never good and stole the spotlight the second movie deserved, also overshading the greatest film of all time, "Duck, you Sucker!"
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>>376659000
>"Duck, you Sucker!"
heh, more like
"browner than shit"
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>>376655394
>implying the good, the bad and the ugly is awful
Fucking child. Also:

>Dark souls is GOAT
>Dark souls 2 is beyond awful
>Dark souls 3 is good
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>>376655394
Fuck your opinion, came to say this: Clint Eastwood is the most overrated actor of all time who can't play for shit.
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>>376659112
>implying dark souls was the first game
if you start with Demon's Souls OP's method works out perfectly
>DeS is good
>DaS is the fucking GOAT
>DaS2 is beyond awful

What do you do for games with more than 4 games and/or spinoffs?
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>Game 1: Have a cool concept for a game
>Game 2: Game was successful, time to make a sequel and polish that concept even further(and maybe lose a bit of the original charm by rehashing things)
>Game 3: Time to try new things and take the concept in a different direction. High chances of fucking up.
That's generally how it goes. There are exception. The original Castlevania trilogy for example flips ups 2 and 3.
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>game 1 is cozy, has a nice atmosphere to it
>game 2 has over the top CUHRAYZEE asspull plot twists which make it a fun roller coaster ride
>game 3 struggles to finish the story in any coherent way, drops plot lines left and right, has by far the worst visuals and the worst gameplay
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>>376656063

>tfw FaFDM is my favorite

>>376657535

Duck You Sucker is better still

>>376658535

It's sad that the closest we'll get to a true adaptation of Red Harvest is a ridiculous Bruce Willis movie still set in the west because of the influence of Yojimbo and AFoD on the "morally grey character playing both sides" genre
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Are you implying the Good the Bad and the Ugly was bad? Go fuck yourself if you are.
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>>376659000
regardless of which Dollars movie you deem the best (they're all terrific), you can't say that TGTB&TU is a bad movie, because it's not. you're overreacting like an autist whose favorite game got beat out by something more mainstream at the game awards.
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>>376656634
As a child I enjoyed 3 more, but I can see 2 being more fun as an adult.
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999 > VLR > garbage > ZTD
Witcher 2 > 3 > 1
Phoenix Wright > T&T > JFA
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>>376655394

uncharted is like that, but flipped
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>>376655394
persona
SMT
Fire Emblem
Final Fantasy
Resident Evil
Doom
Duke nukem
...
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>>376655724
>ay oh let's go!
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Trails in the Sky.
Also the current trilogy if Kiseki series has that structure.
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>>376655394
Halo trilogy is good
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>>376659302
Holy shit, op was right all along
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>>376659540
The only way TGTB@TU is good is if you watch it in Italian with english subtitles, as the english voice acting is bad. Italians always know how to convey emotion, Americans can't even fake it.
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Instead of arguing about Leone films, can we all agree that there needs to be more Weird Westerns in the vein of High Plains Drifter?

The only thing that comes close is Ravenous and that's hardly Western
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>Game 1 is bad but gains a following for its tone and story
>Game 2 is slightly better mechanically, but the black sheep due to staff changes
>Spinoff is okay and gains cult status
>Game 3 is bad but gains a small following for its tone and story
>Spinoff 2 is critically acclaimed, commercially successful and extremely well recieved by fans
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>>376658535
I bet you think T2 is superior to The Terminator.
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>>376660304
>I bet you think T2 is superior to The Terminator.
I actually like them both just about equally for different reasons.
I do like Predator 2 more than Predator 1 though (granted I haven't seen either in years).
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>>376660071
Drakengard is worse than "bad"
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>>376660304

T2 is a better film, but a worse Terminator film.
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>Game 1 has gritty themes with some humor
>Game 2 is still gritty, but bumps the humor up yet it's still GOAT
>Game 3 is complete shit with reddit tier humor
>Game 4 is somehow even worse and forgets literally everything established by the first 2 games to appeal to the reddit le random fanbase
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>game 1 is amazing and considered one of the greatest games of all time
>game 2 is mediocre and killed the franchise
>game 3 is a prequel, it wasnt as good as the 1st one, but it was decent enough to get a sequel
>game 4 is better than 3, but still less superior than 1, publisher doesnt market it good and kills the franchise again
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>Come up with a cool new concept for a game and just run with it, creating an imperfect but fun game
>Realize you can make a second game by building upon the formula of the first, using ideas that got scrapped and adding more polish
>No good ideas left for a third game, but get pushed into making one anyway to continue the commercial success of the previous two
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>TGTBATU is bad
You"re a nigger

OUATITW is GOAT though
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>part 3 introduces a dog companion

Why does this always happens?
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>>376655394
>ctrl-f: Splinter
>ctrl-f: Chaos
>0 results
cum on, step it up
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>>376660779
I hope you're not talking about borderlands.
>Borderlands 2
>GOAT
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>>376661603
Saints Row, actually
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>game 1 is good
>game 2 get exactly what made 1 great and improves upon it every way
>game 3 completely misses the point and is shit
>next game claims to be a return to form but the devs clearly have no idea what made the first two great
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>>376660434
>spoilers
That is hands down the worst fucking opinion I've ever seen in the 12 years I've been here.
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>>376655394
Burnout 3 was the best game in the series
gears 3 better than 2 as welll
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>>376661741
The gameplay mechanics of Saints Row 4 is the only thing that drew me in. Saints Row 2 and 3 are pretty fucking bland to me. 4 did good in terms of gameplay though.
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>Game 1 is incredibly polished and filled with love and production values, but as a game poorly designed
>Game 2 fixes many design issues, improves what wasn't broken, and is a much better actual game, but is incredibly lacking in polish and runs like hot garbage for no good reason
>Game 3 suddenly becomes a different genre and is neither a fun game or polished, series dies
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>>376662181
Are you talking about gears 3 campaign?
I co-oped the original many times, already liked 2 less, but got so incredibly annoyed and bored with the third one on my first playthrough that we just stopped playing one time and dread just the thought of playing it whenever we mention it.
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>>376656634
Which minigame was that? The button mashing one where you have to press the buttons that appeared on screen? That shit was easy, but then again I'm actually not dyslexic, so...

The only minigame I recall having problems with was that Daxter metal head mashing one.
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>>376655394
Dead Space for sure.

1&2 were great but 3 just wasn't the same. Still a solid coop shooter but a god awful Dead Space entry.
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>>376657453
Prince of Persia?
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>>376662357
was referring to multiplayer PvP
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>>376661603
>borderlands 4
yep, it's gotta be borderlands
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>>376655394
>the movie with motherfucking Tuco in it
>beyond awful
A faggot beyond your years, neck yourself yesterday.
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>>376655619
>Max Payne (fuck you 3 was good)
It really wasn't. Unless you like slowly walking while Max talks on his earpiece to mask loading screens it was nu-Rockstar schlop.
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>>376657648


Metroid
Deus Ex
Grand Theft Auto
Shantae (1 and 3 are the best)
Divinity, if you count Original Sin as #3
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>>376655394
Soulsborne
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>>376655394
>tfw this rule kills the series
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>Halo 1 absolutely amazing
>Halo 2, meh
>Halo 3, absolutely amazing

Fuck you, OP.
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>>376655394

>Darksiders 3 just announced

i-if the series never really had a GOAT game it's immune to this pattern, right?
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>>376662274

yeah this, I wasn't interested at all in a GTA clone until they added superpowers to the mix
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>>376656634
I agree. Jak 2 is as good as Jak 1 for me. Jak 3 is awful, so this is close to OP's trilogy type.
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>>376655394
This doesnt apply to too many only ones that I can think of are
>smash
>3d mario
>DKC, but its a bit of an exageration for 3
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>>376656103
You're right, it fits Bioshock like a glove.
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Which one was Ecstasy of Gold in?
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>>376663008
>dark souls
>dark souls 2
>Bloodborne

Ds2 wasn't that good, but I guess its close enough
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>>376657797
DW3 was pretty good though
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>>376663107
For me it was:
>Halo 1 absolutely amazing
>Halo 2, absolutely amazing
>Halo 3, meh
>ODST, horde was ok i guess
>REACH, who are all these dying characters and i also don't care

didn't play 4 and when i heard 5 didn't even have splitscreen co-op the series was dead to me
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>>376663406
good bad ugly
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>>376662302
Bioshock?
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>>376659696
3rd Fire emblem game was an improvement over the first in every way.
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>>376663678
>>376663107
Halo never had good games, you were just young.
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Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory was the best one and it's #3
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>>376663334
>>3d mario
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>>376663867
Halo 1 and 2 were absolute top-tier co-op games.
I agree that soloing them was a little dull.
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>>376663867
Halo was the only FPS I ever liked besides no one lives forever. If Halos not good then there are no good FPS games, besides no one lives forever possibly
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>>376663687
>>376663406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVc2MQwMkg&feature=youtu.be&t=46
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>>376664021
Or you just don't like FPS games. If someone doesn't like FPS games then what makes them good wouldn't appeal to them.

I don't like annoying smug meta games or chesthighwall shooters so I didn't find Spec Ops the line any good at all for instance.
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>>376664017
Co-OP is a dangerous way to grade things because Co-op can make things fun because being with friends is fun, even if the game itself isn't so good mechanically.
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>>376656634
honestly i thought the series improved in an upward slope with each game

jak 3 > jak 2 > jak 1


they're all good fucking games honestly.
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>>376664151
Kinda loses its epic splendour when you notice he runs like a girl.
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>>376664021

ever played Timesplitters?
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>>376664021
try some older pc fps my man, if you aren't a pc type they are toastertested.
I grew up on goldeneye, timesplitters and later gaylo. When i finally on a whim tried quakelive and got it running 60fps and changed fov for the first time i got more comfortable with mouse instantly and had a BLAST.
After becoming more used to mousing and keyboarding try and look up advanced movement if you're having fun to increase it even more.
For singleplayer shootan try a sourceport of doom 1 and 2 with mouselook and stuff. It opened a completely new world of fun in fps for me. While relatively generic gameplay-wise Now FEAR was really great for someone not used to the genre.

>>376664339
I agree to this to an extent.
I mentioned gears 3 campaign co-op earlier and that was such a travesty that we couldn't get fun out of it other talking thrash.
The weaponlimit that limits fun solo makes you take on more diverse roles and in co-op and forces you to communicate to eachother. The open levels really benefit from flanking with your dudes. A lot of vehicles were designed to be operated with more than one person and you can drop eachother off in sniper positions etc while giving cover to better the pacing of the game.
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>>376664539
Well he's Tuco.
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>>376655394
Mass Effect did that but took it one step too far.
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>>376657453
this is objectively true for dark souls, the sequels were good but would've been better being in their own universes
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>>376655916
This. The amount of time I spent just freeriding down the mountain is insane. I love everything about this game EXCEPT for the stat upgrading, I wish everyone just started max stats.
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>>376664631
>>376664339
>The weaponlimit that limits fun solo makes you take on more diverse roles and in co-op and forces you to communicate to eachother. The open levels really benefit from flanking with your dudes. A lot of vehicles were designed to be operated with more than one person and you can drop eachother off in sniper positions etc while giving cover to better the pacing of the game.
duuuh,
this was meant to be a comment about why halo 1 and 2 had enjoyable co-op.
Always play on legendary though and later games need the iron skull that limit spawns or else it becomes to easy.
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>>376655394
Saints Row.

1 was okay if generic and an obvious knockoff. Good enough for a sequel.

2 did everything right, perfect balance. Only gripe is how bad the PC port was, but at least people made patches.

3 was over the hill, all silly all the time.
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>>376655394
GTA (tho 2 wasnt exactly goat)
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>>376658535
You are forgetting just how good of a villain El Indio is. He may not be iconic, but he's the best villain in the trilogy no doubt.

Honestly, For a few dollars is just flat out better than the first in all respects. The dynamics between Van Cleef and Eastwood are fucking top notch and the western moments are just better. The fucking score is immaculate in its own right, but it's greatest curse is that the next movie just has the best film score ever made, bar none.
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>>376659000
All three of those movies are beyond fucking iconic. All three of them are some of human's finest achievements in art this century. But one over shadowing the other two is no fucking excuse to call it shit, you fucking idiot. Don't blame one movie for standing out more than the others in the minds of the people.
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>Game 1 is perfect
>Game 2 somehow manages to improve the combat system and skill system at the cost of equipment being less unique but still overall a good improvement
>game 3 was on ds and isn't really game 3
>game 3 never
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>>376665835
valkyrie profile
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>>376655394
Good taste, OP. Although Fistful is the weak one of the trilogy (Yojimbo is much better.)
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>>376659696
>Doom II isnt the GOAT
What are you smoking
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How many people in this thread can't realize that most of these lists are about exceptions to OP's rule, not ones that follow it?
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>>376666218
I like doom 2.
Especially the new monsters and weapons.
But after replaying the first games i was surprised i liked the original maybe a bit better because of the pacing and leveldesign.
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I'd say Smash Bros but I don't really like Melee and Brawl is better from a casual perspective
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>>376663060
2 was shit m8
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>>376663107
This is a pretty good rating although 2 isn't meh it's still good but it lacked what CE and 3 had.
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>>376655394
>hd remakes.jpg
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>>376665835

almost want to say Viewtiful Joe except for the equipment thing also I never played VJ2 so I don't know how it stacks up to the first really

"3rd entry being on DS" really sounds like Viewtiful Joe tho
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