>>376610656

it's almost as if reviews were nothing more than opinions

>>376610721
Then why the fuck does every chucklefuck faggot on /v/ cocksuck shit like metacritic as if they matter?

>>376610656
You forgot IGN's Double Dragon Neon.

>>376610656
nothings wrong with that nier headline

>>376610656
Spirit of Justice has two good cases and Dhurke is a giant fucking asshole that cares more about his awful blood-relatives than he does Apollo.

Case 1 pacing goes to hell when it gets to guitarman

Case 4 is just fucking nonsense so that they could include Athena in a playable role

And Case 5 gets ruined by the fact that the Sadmadhi's are just as big asshole as the Gramaryes were.

I see nothing wrong here Party Babyz is objectively better than all of those weeb games.

Add PixelJunk Sidescroller to that list as well.

>>376610752

confirmation bias

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>>376610656
Except the Imagine series is known for its quality, look at its sales, almost as much as God of War

Prey's review seems to be correct.

>>376610752
What the fuck you talking about? It goes both ways, dickface.

At the end of the day, we all know it's more a matter of taste, but somehow that doesn't stop sonyfaggots from doing everything they can to shill their shitty console

>>376610656
Have you played imagine party babiez though?
How can you judge a game based on its cover?

>>376611069
>girls released from 2007 onwards.

What did they mean by this?

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>>376610656
If I didn't know better, I'd say that the Prey shills are mad that their broken game is being called out for being a broken game.

>>376610752
because people can't enjoy or dislike things themselves and need to try and "prove" they are right.

>>376611129
>sony
Why'd you mention Sony?

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tfw it's another thinly veiled BotW hate thread.

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>>376610656
Reviewers don't share my opinions? And a woman who makes shitty browser games no one cares about slept with some dudes? I won't stand for this! Gamers, unite! It'll be us gamers against the world!

>>376611231
They think they can beat us? This is just another boss fight.

>>376611231
GOOBERGABBER!! GOOBERGABBER!!

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>>376610656

>>376610656
>/v/ shits on legitimately good games all the time
But when journalists shit on mediocre games you whine

>>376611169
Imagine dominates the women ex-con market

>>376611349
it's okay when nintendo does it

>>376611208
Because they're the cancer bringing this shit to the board. Their console is so BORING they have nothing to talk about, so they just talk about numbers

>>376611231
>m-muh gee gee boogeyman
What's up?

>>376611349
What bug

>>376611231
gamergate was great

>>376610752
Metacritic is a stupid metric to go off of, but is slightly better than going off of individual game reviews since it's a ton of random reviews averaged together. The only way to find reviews that aren't complete horseshit are to find someone who has an opinion you trust/respect and listen to them. Or just play the fucking game.

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>""""journalism""""

>>376611309
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

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Reminder: Gone Home did not get it's perfect score based on merits of their game. They got it because the devs were personal friends of gaming journalists.

>>376610656
has anyone actually played party babyz? maybe it actually deserves a 7.5?

>>376611349
only bug i've encountered are some mimiced objects tend to float in mid air

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over 30 articles about gamers are dead in less than 24 hours. Never forget.

Gaming journalists usually collude with each other before putting out a score or article.

>>376611695
So how does this image explain all the other outlets that gave it good reviews?

>>376611518
Skyward Sword launched with bug which could break the game if you were a complete fucking monogloid. Nintendo quickly patched just in case spastics were to stupid to play the game like normal people.

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>>376611695
>it's great not being able to back up my saves
what the fuck

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>>376611773
>worked for me

xDDD epic

>>376611831
>Gaming journalists usually collude with each other before putting out a score or article.

gamejournopros lol

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>>376611557
No it wasn't. It got rid of moot

>>376611864
I'm still interested in what bug does

>>376611852
woops, was meant to reply to >>376611705

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>>376611852
you tell me

>>376611705
>Polygon
They would have given Gone Home a high score no matter what.

>>376611902
no, that was The Fappening, although i guess GG would have some significant impact, true.

>>376611871
i wasn't talking about zelda

>>376611957
There was also a soc hack that doxxed the mods and irc chat

>>376611902
Literally who?

>>376610656

>after all these years, people still default to hating Imagine Party Babyz just because of the title and box art

>the people trying to be above the plebs in their recognition of video games literally judge a game by its cover

sasuga

>>376611905
I don't remember the details but it was something to do with obtaining quest items out of order towards the end of the game.

>>376611957
he announced his resignation during GG

>>376612020
no, party babyz should have been a 10 at least

>>376610656
And? Only God Hand on this picture is good, AA is abomination and fanfic shit after 4th one, Prey and Nier:A are really bland and shit games

>People still take IGN seriously
Sad if this sinks Arkane. They make decent games.

>>376612062
Because the Fappening was about at the same time. Do you honestly think that the FBI investigation had less influence on him personally than a retarded e-drama on /v/?

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>>376611728
It's a pretty well executed mini game compilation with a reasonable amount of cute in-game art and animation.

Honestly you'd think if would be right up /v/s alley.

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> Polygon
> gets invited to a preview Rockband event before the game is even released
> talks more about the fizzy drinks and puff pastry than the game itself
> whines about how he hates rock music
> whines about how he hates video games and thinks it's stupid
> whines about how he's only doing this because it's a job
> NOT A SINGLE WORD ON HOW THE GAME IS OR WHAT CHANGES THERE ARE SINCE THE LAST ROCKBAND GAME

Ladies and gents, this is the current state of gaming journalism.

>>376612006
>/soc/
The Australian was from /int/ and was doing it to get revenge on a French tripfag camwhore.

Just shut down IGN, filtrate Polygon, and start up a 4chan powered gaming journalism website called vidyaviews.com

If we had the power to that is.

>>376612149
Arkane should go on Twitter & blast IGN, the PC version is amazing, if anything the Console versions should get blasted

>>376612302
Whatever

>>376612302
Sounds like a stable human being using his time on earth wisely

>>376611905
If you went back and talked to one Goron after a certain point you couldn't progress any further.

>>376612321
Arkane should tell Bethesda to stop being babbies about review copies. That is what is costing them. I hate IGN as much as anyone else but seriously Bethesda review policy is fucking retarded.

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>>376611349

>>376611705
see >>376611831

Gaming journalists talk with each other in their secret group before deciding on what score to give it. And yes gamejournopros was a real group.

They basically protect each other, hence why so many websites all at once decided to attack gamers and defend literary who.

>>376612416
do you guys realize that most people who played skyward sword before that bug was patched never encountered it, and that probably included the reviewers?

This whole exercise is retarded, reviews are by nature subjective. That doesn't mean you can't criticize them but this whole "ha we caught IGN in hypocrisy! truth to power!" thing is retarded.

>>376611129
>sonyfaggots
Are Sonyfaggots the ones claiming that BotW is the greatest game ever made because of its metacritic score?

>>376610752
It's shitposting fuel, dumbass, no one actually listens to those faggots. I hope, anyway.

>>376611349
The amount of slant it takes to make that image gives me a prettzy fucking huge HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>376612307
Gatheryourparty was supposed to be an attempt at that. Now they're dead.

>>376610656
God Hand is legitimately bad though.

>>376612252
I'll never not be angry about that one. The sheer level of smug bullshit from this journalism school reject

>>376610656
>tell friends that I dont really care about game reviewers or reviews in general
>figured most of them can hardly play games to begin with
>friends constantly try to sell off goantbomb and other ex game reviewer simulators to me.

I just dont get it, how is 'they used to work at game informer' a good sell?

>>376612498
stop being paranoid silly goober gater!!!

>>376612537
They realize that.

But since they don't have sales or nogames to taunt Nintendo fans with anymore, they have to resort to manufacturing some hypocrisy they can point out.

>>376611380
That's consistent tho. He's saying Danganronpa would be a 5/5 if it was a walking simulator.

>>376612582
no, are Nintendo fans spamming countless boldface meeems because of it?

>>376612668
People like being told what to think if it means they don't have to spend the effort to come to those conclusions themselves.

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>>376610951
I wonder who's behind this post.

>>376612792
1/10

Try harder.

>>376612854
Fucking babbies are cancer infesting this board. Nobody below the age of 25 should be allowed to post here.

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>>376612801
Absolutely. They're also derailing every CEMU thread because they're jealous of their only game.

>>376612912
He was making a joke. A joke about how Patrick is a faggot. Not everyone is out to get you.

>>376610656
god hand is not a good game

>>376612949
keep telling yourself that ;)

>>376612972
his joke sucked, hence 1/10.
1 for effort. Get better jokes. And no I'm not defending gaming journalism.

>>376612252
if videogame developers don't have to be gamers to make good videogames then journalists don't have to know about videogames in order to write about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ynZm1wI18

i don't know why this is such a hard thing to understand

>>376612645
who cares
its just an EA game

thats what they get for inviting those morons on their nonsensical shill parties

>>376612854
Why would a baby post here? We don't have the mental capacity to do so

>>376611175

The game breaking bug was fixed before the review even went live though, and all saves with the bug were fixed as well

>>376613484
>nope, i got out of reviewing this game fair and square!

Reviews are entirely dictated by who is playing them. If its a company then that means there are a variety of people involved, but only one actually plays the game, they can have a bias, not like the genre they have to cover or even just be in a bad mood. What you need to do is find a reviewer with similar tastes to you and listen to them. Giving a JRPG to a person that only plays FPS games will not make the game sound good.

In the instance of OPs image Joshua Clark reviewed the babies game, he is a massive casual, I dont say that lightly, he reviews mobile phone games and apps and gives them high scores. Chad Sapieha(Nier reviewer) is a feminist, who loves games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, NOT action games like Nier which includes cute women in tight outfits.

>>376614569
>a literal chad
>feminist
>ME and DA
jesus christ

>>376612252
He's not wrong.

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>>376613436
>we

>>376610656
that AA review is 100% correct

>>376610656
it was always bullshit, the whole indie scam and clickbait shit is just the tip of the iceberg really. These assholes have been selling out since selling out became profitable, do you really think they care about the stupid 0.001 cents they make when you open an article? why do you think there wasnt a bigger deal made out of adblock? because they still want you browsing the site if anything to seem relevant for the real cash whales
by the way stop acting like they are relevant and it will go away

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>>376611349
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY REVIEW

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>>376611349
>Ocarina of Time has met its match

>>376618710
Yeah, you try to ignore it when there are dozens of metactitic and reviews threads every day.

>>376610721

Not all opinions are created equal. A journalist's opinion piece should be very informative, have the insight of someone who's become an expert on the topic, and be as objective as possible.

Instead, you often get articles that would get a D grade in a 101 class report paper, both for poor writing quality and poor conveyance of information, or often outright misinformation.

>>376613219
i get that they dont have to be 'gamers' to make good games, they just have to understand what is a good game and why people like them
but i feel like they were trying to say that gamers are shit and try to distance themselves from that term and try to be more 'artists' than game devs

>>376619137
i remember my high school news paper had better writing than most game review sites
like holy shit they really do just hire their friends and shit

To be fair the only good thing about Spirit of Justice was Rayfa's armpits.

>>376612252
>you will never be so stupid that you can't enjoy video games like this guy

Feels so good.

>>376611557
Gamergate AKA Chanology 2.0 was one of the most autistic messes to ever pollute 4chan.

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>>376610656
>Spirit of Justice, 6.5
>Dual Destinies, 7
That's when I gave up on IGN. SoJ is so far ahead of DD in terms of quality, difficulty, mechanics and length that I cannot comprehend how it can receive a lower score.

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>>376615326
>sound 5.5 in PMD game
>battles are slow
>everything bar presentation is above 5 but average is 4.9
??????????????

>>376610656
>someone doesn't like the games i like

oh no, is your precious world crashing around you you fucking baby?

>>376619137
>and be as objective as possible.

game reviews can only be so objective.

>>376620929
My world has literally ended when you posted this comment. Thanks asshole, now I will have to write about it on my Facebook and Tumblr

>>376610656
only retards care about scores and takes reviews seriously
still glad prey got what it had coming

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>>376619019

>>376610656
im guessing that the party babies game or whatever the fuck it is didnt have game breaking bugs and did exactly what it set out to do, unlike the other games in your picture

>>376610752
shills shilling shills

>>376621530
Then you'd guess wrong. For God Hand the reviewer picked easy, got angry the game made fun of him for it, struggled through the first level and then called it quits because IGN reviewers are bad at playing video games.

>>376612252
This is fucking hilarious though.

http://www.ign.com/games/the-guy-game/ps2-640053

REMINDER

>>376621724
And Chad who played Nier haven't finished it.

>>376620414
that is correct fellow anon , therefore we the anonymous posters of 4chan™ must make sure that nothing like this happens ever again by staying vigilant and promoting the true spirit of inclusiveness and acceptance within the community making sure that the place remains a bastion for individuals to express their opinions while maintaining a civil atmosphere that respects everyone's opinions and making sure noone feels excluded

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>>376610656
>games can't be judged differently
>we should fighting games for not having enough cinematic cuts scenes
>we should judge musous for having low res models
>we should hammer rpgs for having simple inputs
>we should critisize (most) shooters for having weak stories

>>376621967
What a world we live in where vidya reviewers openly express their disdain for the medium they review. /v/ really needs to work on making some sort of review site where we just write out our own reviews for whatever games we feel like, new or old.

>>376622293
Thank you for proving that people who supported that faggoty bullshit are complete autists. Keep up the good fight 8chnner, you guys truly did amazing and changed the scope of games journalism forever!

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>>376613436

you babez sure aren't intelligent enough to properly conceal yourself through text either.

Mods, remove this baby from the premisses.

>>376621043

That doesn't mean that there aren't a number of things that you can do to remove your own bias and improve the quality of your article:

-Know what the fuck you're talking about, and share that knowledge with the reader. If you're not good at videogames, then maybe being a game journalist isn't your calling. Likewise, if you've never gotten into the genre, then you probably shouldn't be paid to write on it. Write what you know, as the saying goes.
-Know how to fucking communicate. If you can't formulate a complete message and then present said message in a coherent manner, then maybe a career in writing isn't your calling.
-Do your goddamn job and focus on the game. If you hate videogames and only took a job as a game journalist because you wanted to be a left wing activist, then being a game journalist is not your calling, and your boss should never have hired you.

The standards in the gaming journalism industry are rock bottom. You have people who are terrible at games and look down on gamers trying to tell the industry where it should go.

>>376621043
Everything is subjective.

There was a time when gaming journalism was decent. That was also back when they sold game magazines. Those days are way past over.

Nowadays, the entire industry has been taken over by horrible sjw that are trying to push their own political agenda instead of actually trying to review games. They have no love to the medium or it's fans. They're doing it because it's just a job.

And funny enough, the western game companies are going down the same fucking route. We're rapidly seeing a decline in quality from western games this past year. It's getting so bad that japanese weebshit looks better than western games these days.

>>376612252
This looks like it should be in a blog instead of a site about games

Even big AAA companies have realized that gaming journalism is a joke these days. Ubisoft has pretty much banned Kotaku from going to any of their events since they always leak information early.

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>>376622645
i have no idea what has prompted this response to me there fellow channer , the initial reaction of banning threads both here and later on /pol/ related to this frankly very embarrasing fiasco was a good first step forward for the moderation team to make back then but simply put ; too little too late. There should be some tool in place to ban such things site-wide in order to ensure the next time around it's stomped out before it even happens ,let's work on prevention instead of containing these things.Remember it's ok to have fun, just not at the expense of others

Stay vigilant

>>376623069

And for fuck's sake, don't play a 50+ hour game for an hour and then write a conclusive review. No review is better than a review that makes your whole site look ridiculously low quality.

One more bullet point, and possibly the most major: Honesty. If someone asked for a summary on why the game journalism industry is not fit for purpose in five words or less, "they're dishonest" would do a pretty good job. Pretending to be a long time fan when even a casual fan can tell that you didn't even play the previous games in the franchise? False narratives about the consumer base? Accepting gifts from the devs? None of the above, please.

>>376610752
if a game they like like/hate has a good/bad score they will defend the score and the reviewers, if a game they like/hate has a bad/good score they will shit on the score. it's always been like that.

>>376610656
Prey is ass
Stop defending it faggot

>>376610656
To be honest I used to understand their shittiness, they were just normies who couldn't into anything but call of duty and pokemon but normies are loving Prey and Nier so I have no idea what the fuck they have devolved into.

>>376611231
you clicked on the wrong tab, lad. this is not reddit or neogaf.

>>376625951

Snowflake hugbox

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>>376626110
yeah fuck off normie, 4chan is just for us weird gamer nerds

>>376625951
normies are not loving prey, it has flopped.

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>>376612252
Rock Band 4 was a complete and utter travesty though that is becoming progressively more broken with each update.
>No Keys or Pro instruments
>Less songs
>No PRACTICE MODE or online at first
>Constant shitty synth pop, Justin Bieber and One Direction DLC
>Locking online behind a ludicrously expensive payed expansion that no one wants, delayed for a month then at the last second announce that there's no matchmaking for it
>Online play is borderline unplayable with constant lag and frame drops which also occurs in single player
>Notes and entire sections of songs go missing if you pause the game now which was apparently INTENTIONAL
>Notes go missing in general sometimes
>Charged $500 at launch then saying fuck you with the additional payed expansion
>Mad Catz fucks off barely after the game launches because of this shit
>Harmonix employees post phony positive reviews on Amazon at launch

And it STILL gets vehement defenders telling people to stop complaining about this broken mess of a travesty of a game. Fuck them. Fuck them so hard for this abortion.
Rock Band 3 is one of the best music rhythm games of all time and then to churn out this abortion and charge out the arse for it and be deliberately misleading is inexcusable.

>>376625951
These days, they aren't even normies. They hate their job and they hate gaming as well as gamers.
They're just sjws trying to push their bullshit politics. And gaming is popular... so they leech onto the popular medium and try to push their bullshit and lies however they can.
Normies are so sick of their bullshit that they would rather vote Trump than to let sjw win.

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>>376626308
I used to think that rage threads fell out of fashion years ago. Turns out I simply wasn't hanging around in enough journo threads.

>God Hand is "surprising lengthy" but it becomes "increbily boring"

What a shame that IGN can't afford a spell-checker.

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>>376610656
Video games aren't serious art. Why should video game journalism be serious journalism.

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>>376626365
every normie is now aware of the sjw cancer while you faggots circlejerk each other in your shitty little echo chambers and ban everyone that disagrees with you. you lost, deal with it.

>>376626385
The problem isn't that Rock Band 4 was bad.

The problem is that the gaming journalist who covered the event didn't say jack shit about it. He just whined and whined about various shit. Not once did he say how bad or good or different the new Rock Band is compared to previous games. Instead he whines about how his life is shit and how he hates video games and his job.

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>>376626308
>caught up

kek to what? Press X batham gameplay

>>376621724
The thread that the reviewer created after being butthurt no one liked his review is still up. It's fucking hilarious him saying that he and everyone else in the office hated it but then one of the other reviewers coming in saying that not only did only him and the reviewer play it but he actually liked it.

>>376626385
Why anyone would buy this when you can just get most of the old GH/RB games for under $5 is beyond me.

>>376626695
I know that, I just wanted an excuse to bitch about Rock Band 4.

>>376626468
He got fewer votes though, the system and media he himself bashed prior to winning is why he won

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>>376626667

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>>376626667
How do you like your reality TV star president's first 100 days so far, /pol/? Are you tired of winning yet? I noticed that Obamacare hasn't been repealed yet, there's no plan for your wall and your muslim ban got shot down. But I'm sure you must be winning... somewhere. After all Trump said you'd get tired of winning so much and it's not like he's ever said anything untrue.

>>376626385
Oh and I forgot Practice Mode fucking CRASHES periodically. I mean Jesus fucking Christ.

>>376622293
Wait, you're trying to make this sound like a bad thing?

>>376627180
I read the first paragraph and quit. If you are bad at a type of video game, you shouldn't review it, because you're obviously missing out on mechanics or something to be playing that badly.

>Nier Automata 5/10
FUCKING CHADS

>>376610752
For the same reason 90% of the threads in the catalog
Shitposting

>>376611472
S E E T H I N G

>>376626910

>talking about open mindedness
>while refusing to understand viewpoints that are inconvenient to you (the very definition of closed minded)

You know what actually needs to stop? Trying to paint blindly siding with the loser as open minded. Open mindedness doesn't blindly do anything.

You can't have depth without a learning curve. You can't appease people who want depth while at the same time viewing the presence of a skill gap as a problem. The skill gap is the depth at play.
You can't blame people for getting frustrated when games are being robbed of depth to appeal to the dumbest people who play games. You also can't blame people for being annoyed by teammates who drag the team down.
If you just want a story, you have almost literally every other storytelling medium. Go watch a movie or read a book.

There's nothing closed minded about GIT GUD. GIT GUD is a mixture of fun and rational self-interest.

Because I will find some journalist that do not even play videogames and you will keep going to my site anyway.

>>376610752
because much like the radical leftists endorsing violence against those who disagree, hypocrisy is okay if it validates an opinion you don't feel like letting go of.

>>376610752
because GG didn't actually teach people a fucking thing, despite the movement supposedly being a push to improve the reputability and integrity of journalism in this industry. now things are even worse, a grade-schooler could write better articles than some of the chucklefucks employed as journalists these days

>>376628676
>because GG didn't actually teach people a fucking thing
It had nothing to teach.

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>>376628230
>adding an interactive gameplay mechanic is going too far

the biggest sin of games is them being games

>>376610752

It's basically always used as shitposting tool.

>[x] fans blown the fuck out!

Totally serious. It's still annoying, though, since some people obviously view it as legit, and perception is power.

>>376628914
well /v/ certainly thought it did at the time.

>>376629127
/v/ is as susceptible to mob mentality as any other mob.

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>>376611106
Have you played it or are you basing your opinions on other shitposters on /v/?

>>376611175
75 hours and I've had zero issues, how is it broken again? I can't stop playing this game it is so great, so much detail, awesome atmosphere and great story / characters. Why are people shitting on it? Is it because you guys don't have the attention spans for a long, detailed single player experience?

I'm still going to put probably 30+ more hours into two more playthroughs. Why are you so angry at a game you didn't even play?

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>>376612140
Yeah Prey is so bland and shit, says the faggot who hasn't played 1 minute of the game and came to his opinion by being a contrarian faggot like the rest of /v/.

>>376629127
>>376629356

>gaming media tries to paint games and their audiences as misogynist and demand a feminist hijacking of the industry; when evidence doesn't match their narrative, ignore their own studies and just start asserting
>gamers rightfully get angry at the feminist bigots coming in to destroy a male space and replace it with an indoctrination center
>It's just mob mentality!

Someone who got all of their information on Gamergate from Kotaku, I see.

spirit of justice was trash tho. only redeemable feature was the armpit princess cum dump

>>376628230
>the nearest association to being with a woman is to literally treat them as functional entertainment

How did we go from "violent games don't make gamers murderers, they can tell the difference between fantasy and reality" to "cheesecake in videogames makes gamers misogynists"? DOA isn't exactly a classy act but it's not like anyone's going to play one of the games and suddenly think that playing with random women's tits is okay.

>>376628230
>Those disgusting juvenile manbabies making games about titties
>Here are some of those titties in this picture
Keeping in mind this isn't the first Team Ninja game to do this.

>>376611349
>BoTW comes out
>every nintenbro forgets about 10/10 ratings of skyward sword
>>376619021
it's rated 10/10 just like BoTW.

>>376630009
thank you for proving their point

>>376629561
Glad someone else has been enjoying this shit as much as me. I have to put it down do to finals week next week, but holy shit I have not enjoyed a story this much in years.

Someone is going to post the meme picture after this post summarizing the story, mark my words -- how easy it is to shit on something with no actual experience in it--the narrative building, the set itself, the characters.

>>376612012
nigga you for real ?

>>376629775
I was here for all of gamergate, including before it was called gamergate, when it was called "five guys" and everyone was posting Five Guys Burgers & Fries and that shop of Zoe with cum all over her. I even hung around in the little IRC channel you guys set up to plot your strategies for a while, just out of curiosity. I got all my information on GG first hand and didn't bother reading anything Kotaku had to say about it. I generally try to avoid reading anything Kotaku has to say about anything.

You're all still paranoid delusional idiots. You don't own video games, you don't get to decide it's a "male space" and there isn't a conspiracy to brainwash you. There are just a lot of people with extreme views getting jobs in the industry so they're influencing it in ways you don't like. Tough. Don't read their blogs or buy their games. But sooner or later you'll just have to accept that you don't get to decide an entire industry is your private clubhouse.

>>376630218
How exactly am I proving their point? I'm actually a bit confused.

>>376630259
I already did two playthroughs, first just playing the game organically doing everything my own way, the second I did a no-neuromod run which took forever because even on the easiest difficulty it's so fucking hard. Inventory space is minimal and you need to keep going back to the recycler to make shit all the time due to it, and without neuromods the game is actually very difficult, even on the easiest difficulty. My first playthrough was on nightmare with all neuromods and it was a fucking cake walk.

Now I'm going to do the only human neuromods / only alien neuromods and clean up all the achievements as well. I'm loving this game so far though, I don't understand why people hate it so much, the art design alone is some of the best I've ever seen, much like the Dishonored games.

The ending wasn't bad at all either, I don't know why people complained, I thought it was a great "twist" and ended the story in a satisfactory way. The whole ending sequence when the station changes, first when Dahl arrives and those robots are fucking everywhere, and then when the Typhon takes over, it was so well done.

Ending was far better than some other games I can think of that were praised even more than this game, such as Human Revolution's button pressing clip show.

>>376630479

Male space = space where people aren't walking on glass all the time like emotional women. If you start screaming about feelings being hurt and and demanding that nobody do anything that anyone could take offense to, especially in regards to men talking about lewd stuff, that's not a gender neutral space. That's a female space. Feminists are actively trying to make the whole of society into a female space and crush any male spaces. Women are allowed in a male space, but with the understanding that the rules are those of a male space. Men need their spaces to relax. That's not bigotry.

Also, before you try to refute, be aware that male sexuality doesn't exist to validate women. That's extremely misandrist. With this level of hostility and risk, it's no wonder that men are retreating from women in droves to the point where women can't find a husband.

>cultural Marxists try to insert their propaganda into literally everything
>videogames
>athiesm
>comics
>metal
>EVERYTHING

Your typical SJW might not acting at the behest of some grand council (though think tanks along those lines do exist), but making everything about anti-white, anti-male, anti-European culture identity politics is most definitely something that consumes their lives, and they indeed sit around and talk about how to accomplish that (AKA conspire).

>>376631562
>Male space = space where people aren't walking on glass all the time like emotional women.

That's your perception of it. Many women who enjoy video games perceive it to mean a space where they have to walk on glass not to be treated like shit just for being women.

>If you start screaming about feelings being hurt and and demanding that nobody do anything that anyone could take offense to, especially in regards to men talking about lewd stuff, that's not a gender neutral space. That's a female space.

And likewise, it's not a gender neutral space if you start screaming and complaining every time someone suggests making games less male centered.

I mean, I think people like Anita are awful. It's blatantly obvious that she's just out to find anything she can possibly complain about. At the same time I know multiple women who have been playing games avidly for years and whose perspectives I've seen things from, and yeah, male gamers are really fucking shitty to them all the time. That isn't a myth. And they're not complainers or against sexuality, they play and love games like Persona and Street Fighter.

I'm not being centrist for the hell of it, I'm saying that the things you are talking about a culture war, not a rational debate, and as a result both sides take extreme positions. Extreme positions are never right. I really think you can't actually see it when you're on a side, though. You guys have an absolutely incredible lack of self awareness, like when you denied there was any element of misogyny involved in the "movement" you started, but you literally started it by calling a woman a whore and pasting photoshops of her covered it cum everywhere. It's a staggering level of tone deafness.

I like revisionists who pretend /v/ didn't make fun of sites like Kotaku years before GG happened.

>>376628230
I've noticed an odd fondness in these type of reviews to refer to breasts as "lovebags"/"ladybags" and other similarly childish terms. It's pretty entertaining, it's like when you're a kid and you have to work across saying a cuss word.

I actually agree with the Nier score

>>376610656
>he thinks prey is good
>he thinks prey is as good as godhand.

>>376610656
>>376610779
Yeah, but God Hand, Prey, and Double Dragon Neon were actually mediocre-to-bad games sooo

I mean game journalism is retarded but still

>>376632418

Feminists have taught women to be paranoid, lack anything regarding empathy towards the men, and view male sexuality as the behavior of a rapist.

Did you just lie about being big into Zelda and receive a negative response? It's not because you lied, it's because you're a woman! Is he asking you what you like? He's testing you to see if you're a liar! See, look at how the last conversation turned into a lie! The woman was uncomfortable, and you're a woman, so that's all the proof you need that he's malicious. Did he just look at your boobs? Only women can look at the bodies of the opposite sex and still view them as human, because only women aren't sociopaths! Having physical preferences for your partner? Same argument! Rape accusations? There are no malicious individuals with a vagina who might lie about being raped, so men don't need due process! They're all either rapists or rapists-in-waiting anyways! Quit shaming the victim!

And you wonder why men hate feminists. There's nothing irrational about it. They're a bunch of goddamn bigots who won't be happy until they no longer have to deal with something as troublesome as treating men like human beings who can't just be dragged out into the back and shot like dogs on command.

>it's not a gender neutral space

When did I advocate for a gender neutral space? Much like hunting and cars, games are a perfect social gathering ground for men. Women are people oriented and tend to bond around stuff which is primarily social in nature (gossip, clothes, etc.). Men are thing oriented and tend bond around things. It's fine for the market to realize this and create a space for men. It doesn't need feminism's attempts to force men and women to be the same.

>>376612156
he's been through worse investigations before

>>376610656
>>376610941
I think AA6's rating is fine if you take the 1-10 rating literally
Following what it actually means when these sites review shit though (i.e. anything below 8/10 = fucking trash) it's a bit harsh though

>>376634524
But I think you're showing a fundamental lack of experience with women who actually are into games. Your default position is to assume every woman who says she likes Zelda is lying. That's just as bad as what you claim feminists are teaching women to think about you. Again, I agree there are a lot of extremists on that side of thing. But most women who play games don't go that far. The ones you see the most are the ones who do, because they're the ones making all the noise. You're missing all the women out there who actually do love games, and really do feel shut out of it because of the way male gamers act towards them.

You claim that feminism is attempting to force men and women to be the same. I could just as easily argue that you're trying to force them to be different. Even if what you're saying about women is inherently true - and actually, I tend to agree that it is, but I also realize that's my opinion and isn't a scientific fact - it doesn't mean women can't also be interested in games and that they should be ostracized when they try to get involved.

My guess is that there will always be more men interested in games than women. I agree with that. But there will always be a bunch of women out there who are also interested and I don't see any reason why they should be treated differently because they're women. But believe it or not I actually like women, which seems like a rare trait in these conversations. It's honestly hard for me to believe that your position really comes from anywhere other than just not liking women and wanting them to stay away from your interest. And if that's how you feel, I'm not going to try to change your mind, but you still don't get to decide who's allowed to take part in something you don't own.

>>376628015
Carter, you're a sonyfag?

>>376610656
They're not journalists, they didn't go to school and studied journalism at a certified school, they're a bunch of nerds who started a website and are writing their opinions on games.

If you want to have a reviewer to trust so you're not basically wiping your ass with $60 every time you see a game you might like find one online who isn't chained to a major site. It's literally the same thing except that they don't likely have the publishers paying them for scores.

>>376635541

> Your default position is to assume every woman who says she likes Zelda is lying.

No, and these kinds of games are exactly what caused GG. Not excusing a liar because she's a woman doesn't mean that you view women as liars by default. Anti-GG attempted to conflate the two on the grounds that gamers were poking fun at the relatively common false female gamer scenario, and spread the narrative that gamers are misogynists who believe that women are liars.


>I could just as easily argue that you're trying to force them to be different.

You could, but your grounds would be far flimsier than mine. Feminists view any scenario where there are more men than woman as a problem, even when it's like that by choice. Women aren't driven out of "core" gaming because gamers and games are unwelcoming (if anything, a girl who's legitimately into games is novel); there are simply many more men who are interested in complex games. And that's fine, just like it's fine for male oriented-products to exist. We don't need to ban breast physics in games and start getting ban-happy over this non-problem.

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>>376633768
>God Hand
>mediocre-to-bad games sooo

>>376626308
>yakuza
>jrpg
what

Fucking Chad
Didn't he not even finish the game and complained that it didn't answer questions?

>>376636691

I also want to add that girls lie about being gamers specifically BECAUSE they know that being a female gamer would make them desirable.

It's just another of those inconvenient holes in their narrative.

>>376610656
/v/ clearly hasn't played imagine party Babyz.

It's one of the GOATs of gaming

>>376636752
Yeah, it's a mediocre game

Even the positive reviews it got mention that it's a "so bad it's good' affair

It's blatantly not up to the snuff of the usual Platinum/Clover game

>>376635541
>most women who play games don't go that far
You don't know that. Why do you pretend that you do?

>>376637959
master debaitor

>>376620815
While you are right, you should've gave up on them WAY before that

>>376636691
>Not excusing a liar because she's a woman doesn't mean that you view women as liars by default. Anti-GG attempted to conflate the two on the grounds that gamers were poking fun at the relatively common false female gamer scenario, and spread the narrative that gamers are misogynists who believe that women are liars.

You can't see how there's a problem in what you just said? You just said I'm playing games by accusing you of viewing women as liars by default, and then went on to talk about the "relatively common false female gamer scenario."

How do you know how common it is? Do you have statistics? You realize you're basing that claim entirely on your subjective anecdotal experiences, right? How is that not you assuming women are liars? You have absolutely no idea how many women have lied about being into games for some reason compared to how many are actually into them, but you're talking about it as if it's some kind of scientifically verified statistic.

>We don't need to ban breast physics in games and start getting ban-happy over this non-problem.

And most people have never argued for banning anything. I'm aware there are extreme exceptions, but even the majority of "SJWs" don't explicitly claim this sort of thing should be banned, they just try to put pressure on developers not to do it so much.

I don't really think that this particular agenda is ever going to go as far as they want it to. They're not going to defeat basic biology and eventually they'll move on, the way that hysteria about swear words in music eventually moved on. But in the meantime I see a lot of attitudes like yours that video games are automatically a guy thing and therefore you just won't pay attention to any argument for making them more inclusive, and I'm pretty sure you're going to continue to be frustrated as more women start playing games. You could try understanding their perspective instead of just wanting to shut them out, because they're coming either way.

>>376627037
Kek, salty Hillary fag.

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>>376638881
>sh-shit I can't answer any of these points
>you're salty! heh, I sure got out of that one

>>376611695
The souls games do this without being always online.

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>>376639259

>>376638595

The problem in your logic is that acknowledging that it happens doesn't mean that you automatically assume that every girl you meet who claims to like games is a liar, or that you treat them like liars if you suspect it. You know what dudes do with other dudes when they want to talk about a shared interest? They ask them what they think about stuff. It's not an attempt to find something that they don't know so that they can shame them.


>And most people have never argued for banning anything.

Yeah, they'll just try to ruin your life if you don't work off of their assumption that men are sociopaths who see women as mere sex toys. Also, they won't say that they want to get the government involved at this stage, but they're always trying to move things closer to that with hate laws. They really want to make offending a feminist into a human rights offense.

I think that there's one point that needs to elaborated on a bit more. Namely, the "treating girls differently" part.

Anti-GG would look to a comment where a gamer was making a joke about ramming a crowbar up a girl's pussy, but would then ignore that same user making a joke about a male user sucking cock. Simply put, as is often the case with feminism, their issue is that women AREN'T treated differently.

Women lose large portions of their pussy privilege when they go online somewhat anonymously, and as feminists like to say, when you're used to having privilege, a lack of privilege looks like oppression. Men aren't trying to fuck them, so they don't instincts yelling at them to use kid gloves and save the rough play for the other guys. See, turns out male sexuality isn't malicious.

God Hand is legitimately bad though.

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>>376628230
>You will never be THIS much of a gigantic fucking faggot

>>376639468
>acknowledging that it happens
But you're not just "acknowledging that it happens." You're treating it as some kind of widespread commonplace practice. If it wasn't, why would you even have brought it up? The reason why feminists make a point about this is because so many male gamers do make these assumptions about any woman expressing an interest in games. If you don't believe me, this is where I'm saying actually learning from female gamers about what their own experiences are would be helpful, instead of just assuming everything is exactly how it appears from your own perspective.

>Yeah, they'll just try to ruin your life if you don't work off of their assumption that men are sociopaths who see women as mere sex toys. Also, they won't say that they want to get the government involved at this stage, but they're always trying to move things closer to that with hate laws. They really want to make offending a feminist into a human rights offense.

This is where you start sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist. "They" are some shadowy boogeyman figure that's out to get you. "They" are all a hivemind who have the same thoughts and goals. In reality that's not true. You're associating the most extreme position with anyone you perceive to be on the left.

The example you gave, by the way, is a perfect example of being treated differently. Why was the comment towards the woman a joke about violently raping her, while the one toward the man was accusing him of being gay?

>>376640089

That's because it is widespread and commonplace. Girls want to find a boyfriend, so they try to gain access to male spaces, and hopefully endear themselves to the men in the process. Many of them are willing to exaggerate to that end. Men are not obligated to ignore this phenomena because noticing it provides a window for feminists to claim oppression.

As I've said before, male gamers value girls who are legitimately into games. They want her to not be lying. They're not out to get her.


>their perspective

They'll literally just tell you what I've been saying, but then add that it hurt their feelings. A woman's feelings do not make it okay to treat men like sociopaths.


>social justice tribunals in Canada
>people being locked up for criticizing Islam
>accused rapists being locked up with basically no solid evidence
>constant hostility towards the growing concern over men's rights and anti-white racism from universities and workplaces
>"hate speech is not free speech", where hate speech is daring to criticize their ideology

It is crazy, but I'm not the crazy one for observing it. It needs to stop, and step one is to stop pretending that both sides are equally bad.

I miss the old game magazines where they had reviewers who specialized in different kinds of games. So the reviews would be from the perspective of someone who actually understands what the fuck they're playing and what to expect from the genre.

>>376640089

Also-

>Why was the comment towards the woman a joke about violently raping her, while the one toward the man was accusing him of being gay?

Arbitrary choice. He'll shove that pipe up his that guy's asshole and make him cum because he's a fucking faggot. That better?

>>376637959
>Even the positive reviews it got mention that it's a "so bad it's good' affair
why are you bringing up reviews, it couldn't be that you haven't played the game yourself could it?

>>376626308
I bet $50 somewhere in that article says Dark Souls is a western RPG.

>>376615326
>4.5+5.5+5.5+5.7.5 = 28
>28/5 = 5.6
>4.9?????
Apparently they can't mathematics either.

>>376610656
Can /v/ stop with the "metacritic scores matter" meme now? I think it has been conclusively proven at this point that reviews are JUST OPINIONS and not objective truth.

>>376611728
Game Grumps played it.

Its a weak Mario Party rip off

>>376630479
>But sooner or later you'll just have to accept that you don't get to decide an entire industry is your private clubhouse
I'm not somebody who ever gave a crap about gamergate, nor do I see muh SJWs as some kind of boogeyman, but this statement is total bullshit. It's not the right of radical feminist journalists to decide an entire industry is their private clubhouse either.

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>>376610656
Why are games journalists such sexless freaks?

>>376645753
They're all sheltered upper-class kiddies from the social elite. Many probably went to ivy league schools and think their personal experience of life is the same as everyone else's. They have no perspective or understanding of the real world.

That's why.

>>376621967
don't forget Chad's constant bitching on his Twitter about how he "has to play this nier game now" and how it's just "taking him away from Zelda" and whatnot. Total fucking horseshit. Congrats on having a job that lines up with your hobbies, asshat. Still gotta do your job.

>>376626632
>>376626910
>>376627180
Gaming journalism was a mistake.

I don't even know where to begin with this shit.

>>376646645
The problem is that, as usual, rich upper class kiddies get handed all the easy as fuck jobs and they get to tell us what we should or should not like - Even though they have zero experience or interest in video games at all, and have zero connection to the kind of life most of the country lives.

If we want good video game journalism, then we need to have video game journalists who are not privileged, well-to-do ivy league kiddies.

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Journalists still call Inafune the "father of Megaman" or the creator.

Journalists are retarded clueless idiots.

>>376647112
I don't know about that. Maybe there's a kernel of truth in there, maybe not.

The problem seems to be that video game reviewers and journalists are almost universally massive casuals. It's so weird. You'd think that people who took an interest in playing and reviewing games for a living would be better and more knowledgeable about video games, but they aren't. They're almost always normie casuals who ride on the coattails of video game hype machines and reward almost any big AAA release with good scores. They follow trends and frequently reward better scores to the sorts of games that are 'in' at the moment. They never seem to ever actually be good at video games. They don't challenge themselves to git gud, they're caught like a deer in headlights by any game that asks for any sort of skill from the player, and they seem to be frequently confused by that it's not the game's fault most of the time, but their inability to learn the technical skill to not suck, as well as any sort of advanced tech that might deepen the game considerably.

>>376648741
How do you think they get those jobs, dude? They're all ivy league kids. They don't just hire bob from down the street to write for them.

Journalists are almost exclusively upper class kids, whether they write about video games or not.

>>376648741
>video games
>skill
This meme seriously needs to die

>>376611129
I read this kind of post that complains about sony randomly multiple times a day which makes me ask what kind of people are behind these posts? No matter who it is that makes those posts, it's definitely the most butthurt and most vocal fanbase on this board.

>>376610656
>implying all game reviews are written by one person
>implying subjectivity does not exist

Find two or three game journalist/YT-ers/Streamers etc. that you agree with and only trust their opinions.

>>376610656
why would party babyz not deserve it's score though. because you're not part of the target audience?

of course Action RPG Game #2301241 is going to be subject to harsher standards than some disposable family game for casuals.

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I never liked the idea of voting a game.

The idea is retarded since you are trying to vote something absolutely subjective like entertainment.

Remove the vote from reviews.

You want to know about a game?

Read the fucking review, so you can see how it is written and if you could like the game.

>>376649567
Nice double standard, fuckhead. Why should casual nintendo games be exempt from being reviewed fairly? That's a bullshit thing to say.

>>376647112

I'd argue that media journalism is a relic from the time before the internet that just has yet to die off. There's literally nothing that the journalists do that the combination of open online communities and the dev's own platforms couldn't do better.

If anything, getting rid of the middle man might provide incentive to give the actual consumers more information directly via shit like demos and fan events. Right now, devs get to limit the events to their good friends at the sites that they advertise on and who's main interest in the future of the industry isn't as a consumer. If the press pass became a thing of the past due to the lack of a gaming press, they wouldn't get to filter the attendees, either.

>>376649134
But plenty of games take actual skill. A good number of them do, actually.

No one is going to pick up a fighting game without ever playing one before and suddenly become Daigo Umehara-level.

>>376649681
What makes you think it wasn't reviewed fairly? Because you disagree with the resulting score?

>>376649875
You said it yourself. "of course Action RPG Game #2301241 is going to be subject to harsher standards than some disposable family game for casuals."

That's not a fair review. That is special treatment for nintendo purely on the basis that the games are made for families and casual.

>>376650007
Not the same person, genius.

Why do you assume it was reviewed unfairly?

>>376649681
because context matters, you stupid memer shit. if the purpose of a product is to entertain suburban moms and their toddlers and it does a good job of it, then it should get a decent score. reviews have an actual economical purpose and don't purely exist to conform to your standards and confirm your biases. cretin.

>>376650087
The game is obviously trash made for kids but they hand it higher scores than actual games simply because it's Nintendo. Is that the kind of bullcrap you support?

>>376649681
You cannot compare apples to oranges. Just as you cannot compare the intended depth of Mario Party 7 to Demon Souls. Let alone the graphic fidelity of indie games to AAA 200 million USD plus budgeted titles.

Two very different games that should---ideally---be compared within their genre and scored based on the success of their aimed goal.

I never played Party Babyz but it might be the best child-targeted minigame collect released that year for all that I know.

>>376650165
>Nintendo games should get a free pass for being utter shit
This is you.

>>376650198
decidedly you are incapable of understanding simple concepts. promptly kill yourself.

>>376650007
>of course Action RPG Game #2301241 is going to be subject to harsher standards than some disposable family game for casuals."
>That's not a fair review
Good thing that wasn't the review then, you fucking muppet.

Is that what the author said in their review? No, it's what some random asshole on the internet said. That magically and retroactively makes the completely unaffected and unrelated review unfair?

>>376649670

>read actual review
>horrible writing
>gets things wrong (and since this is their platform alone, nobody will correct them)
>doesn't know how to play
>personal blogging
>injects feminism
>reads like a lazy piece of shit article from a spoiled rich kid who doesn't like videogames

The review sites do a pretty good job of making their articles not worth reading. It's both more informative and more fun to browse /v/ and watch gameplay videos, anyways.

>>376650198
>The game is obviously trash made for kids
Nice double standard, fuckhead.

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>>376612854
Well, i dunno but this post was priceless.
I laughed rough 5min about this post.
Made my day.

>>376650317
No, brainlet, that's not what I'm saying. The fact is that the "Nintendo gets a free pass" mentality is alive and well not just on 4chan, but in gaming journalism as a whole. They can put out any throwaway piece of crap and people like you will flock to defend it no matter what. That's complete bullcrap.

context you fucking retards.

number scores are not comparative across all games. that would be insanity.

party babiez is a 7.5 shovelware game. not a 7.5 better than everything below 7.5 game.

i don't know how many years it will take until you fucking retards understand this.

>>376650456
>The game is obviously trash made for kids
So, this is fine but
>Generic Action RPG Game #2301241
Isn't?


Nice double standard, fuckhead.

>>376650265
You seem mad

>>376650563
Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension. At the very least, read my post again and try to actually comprehend it this time.

>>376650456
>that's not what I'm saying
what you're saying is every game should be scored according to your personal criteria and no product that's not explicitly developed and marketed for your sake should be considered lesser as a result.

standard puerile /v/ teenager bullshit.

>>376650628
>It's shit because I say so, everyone just gives them high scores because why not fuck you I don't need an actual reason!
lol

>>376650563
I like how you copied the number but added "generic" in front

>>376650236
Except Party Babyz is a total shit game even in the realm of family friendly minigame collection games. What a surprise.

>>376650717
So to you the words "Nintendo should not get a free pass" means that everything must be rated by my standards.

Nice.

This thread has really given me a fascinating look into the mind of a shill.

>>376650530
>party babiez is a 7.5 shovelware game.
And God Hand is 9/10 action game yet it still scored a 3.0, in other words: Not an argument.

>>376650769
No, anon, go back and try again. You can get it right this time. I believe in you bro

>>376650818
I like how you pretend those double standards you complain about don't apply to you :3

>>376650837
>I can grossly misinterpret everything you say but please don't do it to me
again, commit suicide, now

>>376650837
Please prove the claim that all Nintendo games get a free pass.

PROTIP: Correlation is not causation.

>>376650925
No, that's what it said. I got it the first time, thanks :^)

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>>376651019
>Please prove the claim that all Nintendo games get a free pass.

>>376610752
Reviews/Metacritic only matter to people if the games they like get good scores while games they don't like get bad scores. If the games they like get bad scores or the games they don't like get good scores suddenly reviews/Metacritic don't matter.

>>376610656

The reviewer likes playing Party Babyz right after his session of play-doh, coloring books, and calming music.

>>376651114
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+does+correlation+fail+to+prove+causation%3F

>>376651019
regardless of whether he's wrong about journalists being biased in favor of nintendo, he's doesn't realize the notion has no application in this discussion and he's extremely impertinent and obtuse about it.

this is a stupid child. his cognitive capacity is not developed to the point where logic will overpower his biases and meme tier opinions.

>>376651018
I didn't grossly misinterpret anything. It was stated that casual nintendo games should be held to a lower standard, but that's complete bullshit.

Hell, even if you agree with that idea, then the proper response is to measure nintendo games by a completely different method, preferably one that acknowledges their inherent inferiority.

If you're going to say that we should hold them to different standards, then it simple doesn't follow logically to continue rating them under the same system. Doing so only means establishing an institutional advantage for lower quality games simply on the basis of who their audience is.

>>376627180
>That paragraph about K/D ratio

K/D ratio is not a measure of how good you are, it's a measure of how shit your opponents are compared to you. The fact that this guy thinks a K/D is a measure of skill is proof he doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>376651471
But it's fine to generalize and say completely biased, baseless bullshit like
>The fact is that the "Nintendo gets a free pass" mentality is alive and
well
>The game is obviously trash made for kids but they hand it higher scores than actual games simply because it's Nintendo
without a shred of evidence?

You say you're all for fair, unbiased reviews, but constantly spout completely biased drivel like the above.

Get fucked, you hypocritical muppet.

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>There are people that think godhand is a good game

Haha jesus christ

>>376651938
I would say the evidence makes it very clear that casual games, particularly those on nintendo consoles, DO get a free pass. You can close your eyes and ignore it, but even a brief comparison of review scores makes it painfully clear what's going on

>>376652178
>I would say the evidence makes it very clear that casual games, particularly those on nintendo consoles, DO get a free pass

AGAIN

Correlation does not prove causation.

Where is this evidence?

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That's what I've been saying for years.

>>376610656
>Sonybro mad that his game got an objective review
lol

>>376652334
But we know western publishers have encouraged high scores in the past, anyone remember the editorial in EGM after they gave the first AssCreed a 7? Basically said that Ubisoft didn't like the score and would potentially withhold review copies, not grant interviews or exclusive coverage, pull ads, etc. as a result, and Shoe told them to fuck off. The guy who posted here from Edge, another example, said western publishers were often "encouraging" them to up scores if they felt they were too low while Nintendo wasn't interested at all. None of this is actual proof that it happened with any specific game beyond the ones mentioned by name, but it suggests it.

>>376652925

>said western publishers were often "encouraging" them to up scores if they felt they were too low while Nintendo wasn't interested at all
I'm gonna stop you right there. Unless I see evidence that says that nintendo NEVER threatened anyone if they gave their games a low score, I don't believe it for a second. And game journos would never willingly give a Nintendo game a high score. after all, they "hate good games" remember? If it's not casual enough, they think it's for "those weird nerds who play games all day." It is physically impossible for them to be otherwise.

>>376652925

Also, I would like to bring up this point:

>game journos are "encouraged" to give western games high scores
>that means they take bribes
>you're willing to completely put your trust in someone who's a known liar and will take money to fabricate the truth

Lmao

>>376653406
>nintendo
>good games
>not casual
Top fucking kek

Nintendo has been the casual shovelware console of choice for over 10 years now.

>>376653743

Exactly. why else would Kotaku and gamespot and IGN give them nothing but high praise, while taking points off of other videogames for being too "hard" and "not being artistic enough" or "not having enough story".

>>376626667
Wait, who the fuck let him out of his cage?

MODS!

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>>376610656
I miss old IGN.

>>376653991
Simple. Because nintendo gets a free pass while everything else is rated more critically. Like the shill said earlier in the thread, they don't hold them to the same standard

>>376654252

that and Nintendo has threatened to stop sending them early review copies if their games got low scores.

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everything defending this abortion

>>376654341
Look dude i don't believe that nintendo has to do that and the reason why is simple. All these reviewers are sheltered ivy league kids who probably grew up loving nintendo, so they give them good scores.

>>376654392
Why the fuck were so many journalists defending this game? What the fuck?

>>376653406
>Unless I see evidence that says that nintendo NEVER threatened anyone if they gave their games a low score
No, you have to prove they did, sweetie.

I just gave you two examples of western publishers encouraging higher scores, you say Nintendo does it then provide some evidence. I just said I have yet to see any evidence that they have done it, not that they 100% factually have not.

>>376654252
>>376654341
>Still this mad

>>376654559
money

>>376654392
>>376654559
you guys do know capcom bought reviews for this turd right? ninja theory themselves fucked up and spilled the beans because tamtam is a retard.

>>376654559
Gotta be on the good side of publishers to get the interviews / review copies.
It's pretty simple. It's all just PR, afterall.

>>376654191

I used to read gaming review sites/magazines up until the mid 2000s or so. Played one too many casual pieces of shit that got above a 9.

Honestly, though, I can't say that I'm eager to go back to those days. Online communities are better gauges.

>>376654675
someone paid for good reviews for that abortion.

>>376654615

>No, you have to prove they did, sweetie.
Look at what happened with Jim Sterling for the perfect piece of evidence. Until proven otherwise, every death threat and DDOS against him for giving BOTW a low score is directly from nintendo.

even if I don't agree with that fat idiot or his double standards, the sheer hate he got for that review is all the proof I need.

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>>376654252

>>376629652
It's my man, stop being underage fucker

God Hand is fucking terrible. Fuck off memers.

>>376653616
>that means they take bribes
No, that's not what I said, you're just making that assumption.

>withhold review copies, not grant interviews or exclusive coverage, pull ads
This results in less ad revenue for the site, that's how they stay afloat, ad revenue.

Another example: Remember the Kayne and Lynch fiasco? Guy got fired because he gave the game too low a score while the site had a massive ad campaign running at the time. Basically 100% confirmed that was why he was fired.

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>>376654845
>Until proven otherwise, every death threat and DDOS against him for giving BOTW a low score is directly from nintendo.
I hate nintendo but come on. This is just silly. Nintendo is making threats threats and DDOS now according to you? Is this a false flag post?

>>376654845
>the sheer hate he got for that review is all the proof I need

>Angry fanboys being angry fanboys over a 7 proves that Nintendo paid for review scores

That is absolutely in no way proof that Nintendo pays for review scores, how the fuck did you manage to come to that conclusion?

How about some actual, factual proof, and not mental gymnastics?

>>376626110
I want r/thedonald posters to leave.

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>>376654252

>>376654975

>No, that's not what I said, you're just making that assumption.
But it's been proven, time and time again. Whether it was DmC, Driver 3, Gone Home, Depression Quest, the entirety of gamergate, how much more proof do you need?

even if it isn't direct money transferal, what you mention next in your post is the exact same thing, just with a slightly different name. There is absolutely no difference between ad revenue and direct bribes.

>>376654981
>>376655130

I mentioned that Nintendo also threatened people if their games got low scores. And this isn't even the first time it's happened. Remember 8.8?

I ask you, why should I give nintendo the benefit of the doubt? As a bloated AAA corporate monster, they are guilty until proven innocent.

>>376655323
>>376654871
>>376655435

>games that deserve 0's for being unfinished early access trash, but get far higher scores

Thank you for proving my point.

>>376655380
>I mentioned that Nintendo also threatened people if their games got low scores
So where's the proof?

>>376653743
Actually it was only Nintendo doing that with the Wii. Sony has held that title every single other gen

>>376610656

>that Nier reviewer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kepxfs5GnZM

>>376655552

>So where's the proof?
It was all over the internet. Every death threat was Nintendo's doing. I will not accept corporate white knighting. You understand, right?

>>376655578
Funny joke anon. Nintendo consoles literally haven't been good since the SNES, but Sony has always had top notch games, especially for JRPG fans like myself

>>376610656
>Creative, daring, ambitious - oh, and also a big fat ass
ftfy

>>376655380
>But it's been proven, time and time again
But I'm agreeing with that generally.

I just said they don't take straight-up cash bribes, they are "encouraged" in other ways including, but not limited to:

>Withholding review copies, means they don't have their review day-one and get fewer views, less ad revenue

>Pull big ad contracts, sometimes worth millions and would be a massive hit to the site

>Stop granting interviews, coverage of their games, again resulting in less traffic and ad revenue

We have proof that western publishers have done this, we have terstimony from reliable people, such as EGMs ediot in chief at the time Shoe and Gerstmann from Gamespot, for example.

I'm asking you to provide the same proof that Nintendo does as well, because frankly I don't see it. Nintendo has not been kind to and not received much kindness from the press lately, and AGAIN I have yet to see anything that suggests they encourage higher scores in the above manner. Their games are not consistently rated highly, plenty of Wii U and 3DS games have received mediocre scores or even flat-out panned, like AC amiibo festival.

>>376611472
It's not Sony's fault. It's the best selling console this gen so it has the most people to shit up the board.

>>376655719
He's right though

>>376655821
>Every death threat was Nintendo's doing
WHERE'S

THE

PROOF

You keep saying they do these things but have yet to back up a single claim with even a shred of factual evidence. We have factual proof that other publishers do shit like pay for reviews.