Hahahahahaa, what a bunch of idiots. why would anyone pay to

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Yes, yes, we all knew history would repeat itself.

>free trial
nintendo wins again

>Have to pay for switch online
>It's dog shit

what other choice do you have but to pay for it
I like to play online, I have to do it or I don't get to do what I want

>FREE TRIAL FOR ONLINE

Can't wait to play.... errr...um....hmmmm? Well Im sure it'll be good anyway.

Nah, paying for online is always shit.

Those servers won't pay for themselves. Besides, you'll pay for it anyway, so stop complaining.

>>376609904
Remeber when Sony fans used to say the same?

>>376611540
BUT SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>376610316
MK8
Fast RMX
Platoon

the list goes on

>>376611619
he has a point tho

At least Nintendo is making online games to make use of it. Sony only makes interactive movies so you pay online to play CoD.

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>>376609904
>>376610083
Actually can't even wait to read all the autism

>>376609904
It's different. Nintendo games have far higher quality and value than other games, they put in so much more love.
They can't sell their games for the $150-200 price that would be appropriate for such masterpieces, but paying for online is the perfect opportunity to give Nintendo the support they deserve.

At least this way I don't have to resort to buying their games in 2-3 copies so I pay the fair price for them, sometimes it was pretty hard to hunt down multiple copies of rare games.

>>376611867
You already missed it

>>376611892
This is a great, fresh pasta. Mind if I steal it?

>>376611669
go on then

>>376611892
Imagine being so butthurt that you write something like this

>>376611968
make me

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>>376611896

>>376611892
I agree, Nintendo games is and has always been pure quality
>Mario
>Zelda
>Pokémon
>Smash bros
>Fire emblem
Every game has been quality, and deserves a much higher pricetag

>>376611968
Super Bomberman R
NBA Playgrounds
Minecraft

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>>376611619

>"It's ok when nintendo does it!"
>point out hypocrisy
>"b-but muh sony!"

Sonyfans ladies and gents.

>>376612179
but can it play Knack?

checkmate!

>>376610482
>Those servers won't pay for themselves
What servers? Mario Kart 8 is fucking P2P, it runs like dogshit online.

>>376609904
It's only wrong when Nintendo does it.

>>376612328
you...dont know how networking works, do you?

>>376611669
>MK8
A port game with no extra content where the original was like less than a year old, and has free online.

>Fast RMX
Lol

>Splatoon
A port game disguised as a sequel with some extra content where the original was like less than a year old, and has free online.

Go on...

>>376612456
wow way to move the goalposts.

Also did you just assume my WiiU ownership!?!

>>376609904
>free trial in March

Sooo their online service has been out? How come I haven't heard about it? They got a proper friend's list and all?

test

>>376612456
>port game disguised as a sequel
Uh-huh. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
Seriously besides new campaign, new modes, new maps, new weapons (which are already there) what can they do? If they change the core mechanics people will get mad

>>376609904
>Actually paying for online is not bad.
I'll take Things Literally Nobody Said for $200, Alex.

>>376612534
>IT'S NOT AN AN EXLUSIVE BECAUSE I DON'T OWN THE OTHER CONSOLE
nintoddIers are truly the most retarded fanbase

>>376610083
>>376609904
>hate the paid online thing
>now that nintendo actually needs better servers so maaaybe there is hope
>at least it is only 25€ in a year not 60.

Hopefully the fucking jews won´t charge for bank.

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>>376611968
Anime Tetris
Payday 2013
Minmin's fighting game

>>376612729
>IT'S NOT AN ONLINE GAME BECAUSE IT'S ON ANOTHER CONSOLE

...?

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>>376610083
>Xbox Live actually gives you some good games every now and then
>PlayStation Plus just floods you with indieshit
This will never not be funny.

>>376609904
Im pretty sure nobody is happy about it, but all you can do is suck it up. At least it's cheap.

>>376612729
>it's not online because it's on another console
???
Especially since switch online is cheaper than both

>>376609904
Fanboys will defend their favourite brand no matter what. First Xbox fans defended it, then Sony fans defended it and now we'll have Nintendo fans defend it. It'll be interesting to see if a certain PC client will attempt to do it someday.

>>376613059
PC has had paid multiplayer since before you were a sperm in your daddy's sack

>>376610083
Well, it's true that PSN was complete shit before PS+
Not like it's the best online service right now, but it is much better than before.

>>376613212
MMOs don't count.

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What the literal fuck.

>>376613295
Living under a rock or something?

PC wins again

>Xbox Gold gives you free games every month that you keep
>Playstation Plus also gives you free games and also gives you discounts on select items. Unless it's Playstation now to which that only lets you play shit until it expires
>Nintendo only gives you a free game or two until a month passes, which they then forcefully take the game(s) away from you. Playstation Now if it was worse

>>376610083
First as a tragedy, then as a farce.

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If you don't play on ANY console in 2017, you're probably a faggot normie who doesn't take games seriously.

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>>376613502
Feels good.

>>376613224
Don't lie to yourself, PSN's just as bad as it's always been. Requiring PS4 players to pay for it has done nothing to help it. It goes down and has issues just as often as before.

>>376611669
>the list goes on
does it?

>>376613632
yeah but Switch is perfect to play cheap indies on, so it balances out

>>376613059
If Steam tries the same, PC gamers will just use other services. It's the benefit of having an open platform, they'd have done it a decade ago if they could get away with it.

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>>376613745
>claims to take games seriously
>doesn't have a gaming pc

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oh boy

>not as media capable as the xbone
>not as powerful as the PC
>not as fun as the switch
>shit upgrade that they're now stuck with unless the roll out another (((revamp))) or ditch it altogether for the PS5(already rumoured)
>sonyfags are total cancer and PSN is shit
>...but at least it has knack

basically the "me too!" console...

>>376610098
Has not this trial has been using p2p? I will laught my sides off if they still use p2p when tha y charge.

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>play MK8D
>com errors out the ass
Nintendo expects us to pay for that shit?

I'm not defending it, but I'm going to begrudgingly accept it since I want to play Splatoon 2.

Now Pokemon Bank I'm going to defend because that's $5 a year and everyone mad about /that/ are just Jewish bastards.

Nintendo is retarded. I only play singleplayer games on Nintendo consoles anyway so I won't be buying any online bullshit from them because there's no point.

I enjoy my Switch too

>>376612456
>>MK8
>A port game with no extra content
Except for the 5 new battle modes, all new battle arenas, new characters and karts.

>>376613873
That's a good point.

>>376614139
>com errors out of the ass
works on my machine :^)
No really it does

>>376612873
>Xbox Live gives you games the PS+ gave you 2 years early

ftfy

>People complain about connection problems
>I don't have these using COX Internet and home phone services for just $90 a month for unlimited high-speed download and upload speeds

>>376614505
sounds like you like cox, hmm?

>>376614360
>xbox live lets you keep the free games you download even if your sub lapses

>>376614239
I've had relatively few issues. A couple of random disconnects, but nothing worse than the last game. I'm hoping it gets better as it goes.

My biggest issue is that it pops up a communication error when the fucking room your trying to join is full. It's like "Target device cannot accept connection" which makes it sound like a technical error, when you really only have to wait for an open spot. Fucking stupid.

I can still think is bad and still pay for it you know

>>376609904
The need to filter poorfags<the desire to not spend money on dumb shit

>>376611540
They're the only ones who said it.

>>376613632
Try signing out of Xbox Live and try playing those "free games". The 360 gave free games you could keep but after the X1 launched, you are only borrowing that shit.

>>376613632
>Xbox Gold costs $60/year
>Playstation Plus costs $60/year
>Nintendo Link will cost $17-$25/year
Yes. That's totally an equal and fair comparison.

>>376614671
really? I didn't know that. I legitimately might get xbox live now.

>>376614757
But both of the other major console companies charge for their servers. It's not really "dumb shit" especially if it helps create more reliable service.

>>376614984
only true on the 360 my man

>>376615023
nevermind eff that. what about 360 games on the bone?

>>376613787
>let me shitpost withouth proof again
>guys the ps down is the same as shit multiplayer

Just end yourself because you cant even shitpost well retard

>>376614881
>Free games
>It just costs an extra $40
Really makes you realise console fucks are fucking idiots.

>>376609904
>filter poorfags
I'd pay more if i could get rid of crying babies like you OP.

>>376615019
It's dumb shit. The servers (unless the game - like 90% of console games - uses P2P matchmaking) are usually hosted by the developers, and paid for with the game sales and dlc (and microtransactions if the game is cancer). Paid online is pure greed.

>>376615361
>boohoo, people are having fun on consoles instead of a PC
>BOOHOO

Cry some more nigga. Also
>Can't throw away $60 on a whim
Guess the government doesn't give you bonuses on the checks you receive, huh?

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I'm almost certain that paid online exists because of gamers' complacency and brand loyalty. Microsoft fans ate up the 360 despite having paid online. Sony realized this, and decided to do the same for their PS4, and after that worked for them and Nintendo realized both of them are getting easy money off a basic service, they're doing it with the Switch.
The sad thing is some literal who indie modder can get Mario Kart Wii and Smash Bros. Brawl's online to work perfectly, while MK8D's is a piece of crap.

>playing online with consoles

literally why even bother

>>376615058
Other anon is a damn liar. Any game you get from games with gold is yours. Even when the sub ends. They also give a free 360 game a month as well

>>376615747
it's $60 a year, poorfig

>>376615804
>you're a poorfag if you don't pay for a substandard service
Worst /v/ meme yet.

>better servers

i have no idea how anyone can claim this

consoles frequently have shitty servers and at their best they function but are less user controlled than PC servers

Look, I'll admit I used to hate the idea of paying for online but Nintendo has some huge ideas with regards to online - some of the best ideas I've ever seen. You would be amazed if you heard some of these ideas. So the thing is that when you consider the potential of these ideas and the ramifications they could have for the future of gaming, you really need to analyse on a cost by cost basis whether we're getting what we need. Nintendo's online has always been inferior to the competitors but it's been free but you consider that PS4 and Xbox get massive, absolutely massive, subscriber counts despite the payments? That's what you need to consider. In terms of the price of nintendo? I feel like the ideas, absolutely amazing ideas, more than allow you to feel the full power of the switch and thanks to a free trial we see just how good nintendo is already doing in terms of online, absolutely wonderful. Paying for online is fine.

>>376613224
>was
PS+ still trash, now you only pay for it

>>376610083
2Bad xb exclusives are trash and all the best weebkino is on ps4 :^) get fucked

>>376615903
>Casualries

Absolutely disgusting.

>play super smash brothers on wii u with wired connection

>input lag ranges from 1-3 seconds randomly

how in the everloving fuck does nintendo get away with this shit?

>>376615804
>paying for nothing because it's not -that- much

>>376615903
define "substandard"

>>376616123
I work full time actually. I just have better things to spend my money on, that's all. And if I really want to play a game online, I'll just play it on PC where it's free.

>>376609904
>You get better servers and filter poorfags and cheaters/hackers

For one, you aren't filtering cheaters or hackers. Two, if MK8D's online is anything to prove, you're paying for WORSE online, not better. Wii U MK8 was a lot better than that heap of shit MK8D has.

>>376616212
...it's $60 a year, dude that's cheap as shit

>Paying to use the internet you already pay for
I'm a diehard Nintendo fan, but this shit drives me up the fuckin wall

I'm not sure if this extra money will help ensure good server stability/legitimacy, or if Nintendo is just gonna give us the same thing but in a different package

>>376616212
>I work full time actually
It's 10:45 am.

Why aren't you at work, Mr. Blue Collar?

>>376616208
worse than something that's free aka any game on PC

>>376616314
It's 12:45am where I live.

>>376616293
>we live in an age where consolefags literally try to say you're poor if you dont want to shell out money for literally no reason just because your cuck overlords decide to shove their cock in a little deeper

wow

kill yourselves consolefags

>>376616314
>he doesn't shitpost at work

Its okay when Nintendo does it

>>376609904
That's a lovely impression of a sony fanboy going from PS3 to PS4, OP, good job.

>>376616319
define "worse"

>>376610083
Most games on PS3/4 have dedicated servers right? I'd pay a fee to get some dedicated servers on PC

>>376616412
>literally no reason
no, I'm giving money for a good online service and community. If it keeps the BRs out then I'm all the more for it

>>376609904
no, paying for online is still shit, and Nintendo's plans for the monthly bonuses for people paying for the service is also shit.

hopefully they'll change their fucking tune, but I'm guessing that's not terribly likely with how well the Switch is currently selling.

I'm saying this as a Nintendo Fan, by the way, just because I like them doesn't mean I automatically agree with all their decisions, you fucking child.

>>376616452
this guy gets it

>>376615657
>I'm ok with being robbed because I'm not poor
So when did you discover you were legally retarded?

>>376616557
slower time to get in game
worse latency
fewer games
worse controls

>>376616574
>Most games on PS3/4 have dedicated servers right?
pretty much none do

>>376616725
any job you don't spend 50% of your time shit posting is a bad job

>>376616704
>THATS IT INITENDO, CHANGE YOUR WAYS BEFORE IM COMING FOR YOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

*sheathes katana*

>>376616637
>literally "paying money is good because then the only people who get into muh sekret club are other well of people who can afford to pay $60 a year like me"

If nintendo wasnt shit theyd offer server filters to play with only people locally in all their games anyway

If you really believed this you'd have a gaming PC because no kids can afford a good computer that can run modern games, and then you wouldnt give that much of a shit about nintendo games because your standards would be so much higher

>>376616751
I don't see how any of that applies, although maybe it's just PSN that's shit. Live seems to work for me no probs

>>376616798
nice counter-argument, really just shut me down, I guess.

>>376615361
Not all console patricians use the premium subscription services, fagboi

>>376616868
The service doesn't pay for itself you know...

MS didn't just throw an ethernet port on it and say have at it, it requires dedicated support and year round maintenance to keep up, and, you know, it's only $60 for an entire year...

so what titles does nintendo have that require a online infrastructure big enough so they can charge for it?

>>376616929
wait what argument am I countering, exactly?

>>376616574
Fucking kill yourself right now you shit eating retard. Never ever post that again

Fuckin hate the Nintendo servers. Mk8dx servers are shit as hell. So many connection errors. Sometimes I can't even connect to their fuckin shit servers. Pisses me off

>>376616957
the fuck are you talking about?

you already pay for your internet

>MS didn't just throw an ethernet port on it and say have at it

thats how it is with PC

>>376617040
what the fuck's your problem?

>>376617025
you're the witty one, you tell me.

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NINTENDO WILL NEVER MAKE MOBILE GAMES!

>Nintendo made Miitomo, Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, and Fire Emblem Heroes

>NINTENDO WILL NEVER SELL SEASON PASSES

>Nintendo sold season passes for Hyrule Warrior, Mario Golf: World Tour, Breath of the Wild, and the new 3DS Fire Emblem game

>NINTENDO WILL NEVER CHARGE FOR ONLINE PLAY

>Nintendo Switch requires a paid subscription service to play online

>>376616871
>I don't play games on PC do I don't know that dedicated servers are faster than P2P or that they have faster framerates and lower latency or that faster HDDs and SSDs reduce load times and that shooting with an analog stick is only for children and those with stockholm syndrome

>>376617098
My problem is your underage consolefag retardation seeping into PC. Paying for servers is the ultimate mark of the cuck, they cost virtually nothing to maintain

>>376609904

I love my switch and Nintendo but I'm not a blind fag. I think paid online is gay as fuck but there is nothing I can do. I hope It's cheap.

>>376617138
let's keep this going
>NINTENDO WILL NEVER MAKE A WORTHY SUCCESSOR TO METROID PRIME

>>376617097
>you already pay for your internet
Yeah and I already pay for my Hydro too but that doesn't mean i don't also have to pay for Brita Filters, too (~$50 a yr)

>thats how it is with PC
well there you have it. Fuck, you're dumb

>>376617138
i hope sony and nintendo get taken over by stupid chinkshit mobile games and xbox one dies to PC

consolefags need to be put out of their misery, and i say this as someone who grew up mostly playing consoles

>It's another "every one at /v/ is one person" thread

oh boy!

>>376617131
...it's your argument...?

>>376617265
see
>>376616990

you have no excuse

kys

Paid online basically guarantees that I'll just play on previous gen systems and PC. Here's hoping 3DS will last a while longer.

>>376610098
psplus gives you a free trial. Stop looking for straws to clutch

>>376617454
>6 month free trial

>>376617384
you have no understanding. You do know it's free right now, right?

>>376611821
>At least Nintendo is making online game

sony started with killzone this gen. not saying it was a killer game but it did sent the signal to the cod fans (that is the most loyal online player base on consoles) that sony is commited to online.

funny thing is that the other day I tried wipeout on the PS3 and I did manage to find a race online !

>>376617501
for a few months

>>376617349
my argument that...being a fan of something doesn't mean you have to defend every one of their decisions, boy.

it's called thinking for yourself, maybe try it sometime.

>>376614002
nintendo games will still be P2P,
no dedi servers

that's what's shit about it.

>>376617213
Why on earth are you still thinking of paying for it if you don't agree with it? You faggots need to learn how to vote with your wallets.

Not that it won't stop other rabid Nintenbros from throwing money away for sub-standard online, but it's a start.

>>376617672
whoops, used the wrong term

are nintendo doing the free game shit or are they literally just lazily jumping on the bandwagon and making you pay just to use your internet for free money?

>>376617498
And? You're still trying a paid service free for a period of time.
Nintendo fantards are the fucking worst with online. You only think it's okay to pay for online shit as long as nintendo forces it on you.

Can't wait to see PC go pay2play just to see the masterracists lose their fucking shit

>>376617565
yeah and then you'll have Splatoon and ARMS on top of everything else

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I love consoles, I don't even care buying a console for a single game but come on. Online pay walls is were I draw the line. If you like online gaming just consider a fucking PC.

>>376609904
>filter cheaters/hackers
lmao, you probably genuinely believe this

>>376617595
okay?

>>376617672
The big problem is definitely that other people will just keep paying. And those companies won't just turn down free money. It's a real shame.

>>376618125
hey, that's how the free market works

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>>376609904
>You get better servers

>>376617804
>Can't wait to see PC go pay2play

Fucking kek

>>376617798
Kind of, but in a really shitty, kike way. You get 2 NES/SNES games per month rental but you lose them at the end of the month. Ample time to finish 2 old games but still shittier than it should be.

>>376617804
>one period of time is the same as another period of time
>they're both just periods of time
I won't pay for switch online but you're a retard

>WHY ISN'T EVERY SERVICE FREE WAAAH
Do you think companies want to operate at a loss?
From all the online vidya stores, Steam is actually by far the most expensive. They take a 30% cut from every sale, which is FAR more than some measly $5 a month.

>>376617138
>>376617248
>NINTENDO WILL NEVER MAKE A GOOD GAME!
Heh I'm a genius. You're all welcome.

>>376618298
>nes
>you dont even keep them

wow that is super shitty
having a little snes library build up for on the go play would have been at least something kinda cool

>>376618298
I wonder if it's going to be like Club Nintendo and they have the same game up every 2 months or so.

>>376613224
the point is that sony fans were falling back on pathetic excuses to cover for the fact that many of them had FOR YEARS made fun of xbox owners for having to play online, then became massive hypocrites. doesn't matter how good psn is now, you (the hypothetical sony fanboys, not literally you anon) still got fucked into paying for it after you made fun of others for doing the same thing
and for what its worth as a ps4 owner and xbox owner, still fucking pisses me off how cheap everything on psn feels. store looks cheap, servers feel cheap, and the shit STILL goes down constantly

>>376609904
>Investors pressure for mobile shit
>Nintendo makes an app in order to connect the console
>Only numales, trans-trenders and social media users will download the app
>98% of userbase (kids) will not bother
>App discontinued after a few months because low usage
What a slap in the face of trendy investors

>>376617804
>Can't wait to see PC go pay2play just to see the masterracists lose their fucking shit

Explain how, on a technical level, how someone could possibly be forced to pay to play all their PC games online.

>>376618513
You are fucking retarded

>they take 30% of sales
not from me, the game is 60 dollars on your shit and 60 dollars on steam

There are no cheaters on Nintendo games anyway

>>376618781
Steam subscriptions for steamworks games, EA pass required for Origin games

either are unlikely, both would be near impossible. as soon as one tries to do it the other will market keeping PC free

>>376618838
And without the cut companies could sell the games cheaper.
Do you seriously think that you're not the one paying steam's cut?

>>376617498
>oh boy 6 whole months before nintendo bends me over, fucks my asshole and i thank them for it

>>376618909
>could sell games cheaper
but they don't its been 60 dollars for over 10 years as the standard game cost

>>376618909
>And without the cut companies could sell the games cheaper.

nothing's stopping them......
Distribution costs money, underage.

Could they even legally do it?
You already bought a bunch of games on Steam, Origin and whatever.
If they introduce a subscription cost, essentially they are asking you to pay more for games you already own.

>>376618918
that's a bit much, it's only gonna be about $20-$30 for an ENTIRE year, grow up and get a job.

>>376618169
The free market will never benefit the consumers because the average consumer is a fucking retard.

>>376618298
>paying for a demo so that you can pay to emulate the games you've paid for 3 times already

>>376619093
I have a job. I just spend my money on good investments and not lousy ones like paid online.

>>376619215
$30 for a year's worth of entertainment is the best deal you will get in your entire life.

>>376618298
>2 NES/SNES games per month rental
>NES/SNES
Fucking hell Nintendo that's just shitty. At least throw in some Gamecube games or something.

>>376618909
I'm not because the same game is the same price on PSN or XBOX live

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>>376609904
Honestly this is pretty fucking jewish of Nintendo since their online service is shit compared to other consoles and pc. No voice chat, can't add people during games that you enjoy playing with, no instant messaging during games, and there is only one good online title being released, Splatoon 2.

>>376618896
People will just setup there own P2P servers dumbass.

>>376619293
or it could be zero dollars like it always has

>>376618896
That has as much chance happening as Trump making all the borders open and welcoming Muslims with open arms.

>>376619358
>No voice chat
But that's a massive positive.

>no instant messaging during games
And so is this.

>>376619215
it's not supposed to be an investment, moron.

>>376609904
>You get better servers
>filter out cheaters/hackers
Both wrong.

>>376619406
or you could just get a job

>>376619306
They won't do that.
All the nu-males that got a switch won't get enough hipster credit if they play good gamecube games

>>376619412
>>No voice chat
>But that's a massive positive.

Just like BMW drivers would consider it a massive positive if their cars didn't come with turn signals.

>>376619412
I understand this is a console for children but some people actually enjoy chatting while playing with people and making some friends.

>>376619496
or maybe nintendo could stop being so greedy

>>376618513
>implying Sony and MS do not get a cut from every sale

Why do you think they care about install bases? Sony would've sold more copies of Uncharted 4 if it were multiplatform, wouldn't they?

>>376619596
If you want to chat with your friends, use skype with your phone or something.

I definitely not want to hear some underage nintenbros yelling into the mic.

>>376619642
no, i think you just need to stop living off handouts, it's the Switch not the SNAP

>>376619412
>>No voice chat
>But that's a massive positive.
No it isn't

>XBL paid online
>Sony fans laugh
>Sony paid online
>Sony fans try to justify it
>Nintendo fans laugh
>Nintendo paid online
>Nintendo fans try to justify it

The sad thing isn't who said what but that now consoles are all in the same boat when it comes to online.

>>376619723
>handouts
You're a fucking retard

just like PSN, they're going to charge you and won't give you a better service

>>376619590
>>376619742
>buy new multiplayer game
>go into options
>disable voice comm
>one year later
>well, I can give it a shot
>turn on voice comm
>HEY YOU WANNA KNOW THE MOST ANNOYING SOUND IN THE WORLD?
>random mic spam
>turn off voice comm

>>376619723
>free online play
>a "handout"
You are so fucking stupid.

>>376619412
>cutting features is a massive positive

Nintendo needs to improve their online service if they are going to start charging for it.

You are all fucking morons.

Nintendo is not delusional because they make you pay for shit online service, they are delusional because they make you pay without games like CoD.

The CoD crowd is what keeps paywall going. Sony didn't get CoD marketing for nothing.

>>376618909
>And without the cut companies could sell the games cheaper
>same game costs the same on steam and off steam

Really makes you think

Anyway, it's not even close to comparable to pay to play online. Console companies take a cut just for making a game on their console, plus a cut for digital sales AND the cost of devkits.

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>>376619789
It's been one long fucking decade hasn't it. Things just keep getting worse. And the worse it gets, the harder people defend it.

>>376619840
the service doesn't run itself for free, child

>>376619835
So why can't you just leave it turned off and the people who want it can turn it on?

>>376619978
>its free before
>suddenly they start charging for it
>the service doesn't get any better
yea those costs really are going towards the servers I'm sure

Oh man, I can't wait to play smash, mario kart, splatoon and ARMS with 10 seconds of input delay, the match freezing for two minutes, then getting an error message kicking us all out!

I don't mind paying for it as long as they fucking fix it.

>>376614798
>Implying 360 games are bad

>>376620012
Because kids often votekick people who have voice comm turned off.

>>376620128
>>376620128
>votekick
Nintendo games don't have that

>>376619573
I wish you weren't right but you are. Can't wait to get games that any old toaster could emulate.

>>376619954
It's really saddening. It's even more saddening when you realize things will not get better and in 10 years lord knows what nightmare people will be defending.

>>376619978
>the service doesn't run itself for free, child

actually it does. online servers are dirt cheap compared to everything else related to making games.

this is not some pretentious mastard racer talking: online paywalls is like paying for hot air.

>>376619978
Computers and server maintanence now are cheaper than ever, anon. And online games has barely evolved since PS3 era in term mechanically.

>>376620339
>cheap == free

ok kid

>>376620224
Nintendo games also don't have voice comm.
I was talking about games like PC games that have voice comm.

>>376620397
buying the game already covers that though

>>376620035
>xbox charges money for a superior service
>PSN decides to start charging too without improving their service

sucks to be a Sonyfan, I guess.

>>376619978
It actually does though. There are no servers, you're just direct connecting to another players system. The stuff they do run, like your PS/Xbox brand Facebook profile so you can show everyone your achievements online, you get for free anyway. The only time Sony or Microsoft servers(and Nintendo presumably) come into play is to check if you have a subscription. You are literally paying them to take your money

>>376612151
We are lucky Nintendo allows us to purchase them at all. Such masterpieces should really be locked away until when mankind ascends high enough to truly appreciate them. I am glad they decided to grace us with the ability to experience these pieces of nirvana for naught but a mere pittance. Though most won't really be able to discern even a fraction of the majesty that lies within, their lives will be immeasurably enriched and made worth living by simply being physically touched by the holy light that streams from their TV screen.

>>376620442
does it now lol

>>376620539
The matchmaking isn't P2P, idiot.

>>376620397
>>cheap == free
>ok kid

dude wtf. I'm your friend, I'm trying to tell you that all that "server cost" is just bullshit. sony and ms fags fell for it.
you can change things: don't buy the fucking subscription.

>>376620281
>It's even more saddening when you realize things will not get better and in 10 years lord knows what nightmare people will be defending
One can only hope we've all been cleansed in nuclear hellfire, Terminator 2 style, by then.

>>376620617
When it's not literally P2P, it's like Killzone where the server doesn't actually do anything but forward the packets from one person to the other, and all the server calculations are done on the PS4. You are paying for nothing

>>376619978
>>376620617
>child
>lol
Please go back to whatever shitty social media site you came from.

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>>376615804
>paying for abject shit solely because you can afford to
you must be easy to jew

>>376620864
>I'm trying to tell you that all that "server cost" is just bullshit

hmm, you have any justification?

>>376621026
I said matchmaking specifically, and client side calculation does not imply P2P

microsoft are fucking awful for starting this paid online shit. leave it to americans to fuck everything up

>>376621050
been here longer than you kiddo

>>376621062
>hurr if I call it shit that means I shouldn't have to pay for it

literally lol

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>>376617804
>Can't wait to see PC go pay2play

>>376619938
Go explain that to investors. All they see is other companies getting free money.

>>376610291
It is people like you the one they love
The people that never questions, never complains and just drops their pants and takes it.
And despite this, they still don't see you as more than a pawn in their gameboard, or a number in their sales.
How does it feel that the people you put in charge don't even give a single thought about you in their whole lives while eating their expensive food and enjoying their luxuries?

>>376621181
Matchmaking takes less server infrastructure than the achieve the profiles, friend lists, communities, and other bullshit that you get for free

Paying. For. Nothing

>>376620617
>does it now lol

It's only their fault they invest their budgets into prettier shadows and reflections, inflating production costs. Literally no non-autistic person ever asked for this.

>>376610291
>what other choice do you have but to pay for it
>an enemy is invading our shores and killing innocent people
>i don't think we can beat them
>better just give up and let it happen
Defeatist attitudes are never the answer.

>>376611540
>Remeber when Sony fans used to say the same?

I'm gonna be the devils advocate and say that at least Sony introduced "free" games. nintendo has literally nothing new to offer.

I mean come on, you have a moron here who is seriously saying you need to pay for matchmaking.

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>>376621267
>he thinks he should have to pay a subscription on top of his ISP package just to negotiate a P2P connection
top goy

>>376620397
Cheap = literal pennies
Companies could charge $1 a year for online matchmaking servers and still make profit.

>>376610291
>wanting to play online

Just play split screen with your friends, that's what consoles are for

>paying for online
>paying for "free" games
Kek

The reason is they charge because people is conditioned to accept it no matter what
That's the reality of things
It is time to stop playing games and make our own so we can play the same game, nothing else to do.

>>376621181
>you have any justification?

what in gods green earth are you smocking, setting up a couple of servers costs nothing.

this is not some mastard racer talking. paywalls are money for nothing. at least have the dignity to say you like the "free" games.

>>376621627
You aren't paying for online. You're paying for a ps+ subscription. The games and online play are free.

>>376620128
>people don't like me
>get kicked

Sounds like you deserved it.

>>376621561
Pretty sure I don't pay my ISP for a service Nintendo provides...

>>376609904
but muh pc is too expensive
consolfags btfo

>>376621752
Okay, you have no idea how this shit works, that's fine

>>376621756
>can't access online play or "free" games without ps+
>online is free
Are you delusional?

>>376621864
Sounds like you deserve to have your entire family tortured and killed extremely slowly while you're forced to watch and a guy jacks you off so you are forced to come to the death of your family and it's also homo because a guy is doing it ;)

>>376621941
The problem is you don't get portable games on a PC.
For once, PC fags like us are defeated there.
And don't come with your bullshit of "use a laptop pleb" like everybody is crazy enough to use a fucking laptop everywhere worth 800 usd+ like nothing.

> what do you mean I gotta pay for stuff I thought this was a free country!!!

>>376609904
As a Nintendo fanboy, I'm still pissed about paid online. At first it was just Microsoft, then Sony took their example and now Nintendo is doing it too. Asking your customers to pay a fee to use their own internet connection is a shitty thing to do, but now the only way you can really avoid it is to just play on PC.

>>376621872
now you're just being deliberately obtuse

>>376622098
>What do you mean you got to pay for stuff when they already profit pretty well
This is why capitalism is shit without regulations to prevent abuse and actual enforcing to the letter of such.

>>376622128
No I'm not, you're just being cheap, Jewish even...

>>376621676
>The reason is they charge because people is conditioned to accept it no matter what
Exactly. It's why shit like season passes and micro-transactions are now common place. A new generation of gamers starting with Gen 7 were raised never knowing any better.

>>376622189
Lol shut up commie

>>376609904
paid online is a scam no matter how much you try and justify it or which company is doing it

if you're paying anyone besides your ISP to play online you're getting cucked, no exceptions.

>>376622073
i don't play portable game
so?

>>376622073
What do I need games to be portable for?

>>376621872
>for a service Nintendo provides

nintendo provides nothing. nintendo is hijacking your bandwidth and you are paying them on top of that.

with sonyfags it was funny but at least they had "free" games. this is just sad.

>>376622302
Lol. I don't even play any games at all, never did.

Get on my level

>>376622361
Ok kid

>>376609904
>still using friend codes
>you have to use a fucking smartphone to voice chat
>mario kart dx has tons of connectivity issues

you really have to be a retard to support this

>>376622378
remember you are on /v
nobody play game here

>>376622285
Paying for phone is a scam.
You already bought the cell phone itself, calling someone should be free.

>>376622052
Ouch, looks like I triggered you. Sorry I didn't put a trigger warning on my post.

>>376622553
This guy gets it

>>376622474
>Ok kid

probably falseflagging. no one is this stupid to fall for the "server maintenance" meme

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>>376610316
>I have to pay to play Animal Crossing, Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Smash/Kart
Yeah, nah. I'll just not buy a Switch.

>>376622553
>You already bought the cell phone itself,
>>376622641
>This guy gets it

being this desperate. anon said the only one you should be paying is an ISP.

So how much is it then, in the US? I heard it was like $30 per year.

>>376622553
Except thats wrong you retard, as I said youre already paying your ISP for service.
But yeah go ahead and blow money on a shitty p2p connection

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>$60 annual subscription just for the privilege of connecting to somebody else's console to play Splatoon

>>376622553
>>376622641

Paying for calls is expected to cost. The reason paid online is ridiculous is because the best online service by far is steam, and its FREE. Also online used to be free which is why it's such a jew move

>>376622843
This guy doesnt

>>376622270
You didn't make it better with the current system, you still will have overlords that control everything but only based on money, instead of violence and murder, like Stallin.
I hope you are happy.

>>376622925
Splatoon is the most revolutionary shooter since Call of Duty which created the whole genre.
I'd pay $60 a month easily.

>>376622925
>$60 annual subscription
source please

>>376623004
>internet/phone servers cost money so it's reasonable to pay for it
>matchmaking, messaging, social network, shop, game download servers cost money but I don't want to pay for it

>>376622073
3 hours of Zelda is not portable either. If you're really determined not to taint yourself with console peasantry you can buy something like GPD Win and play the same indies you would on Switch, though 2DS would beat both for this purpose I imagine.

>>376609904
Why would anyone pay to play nintendo online with 5yr olds. I just bought it to play single-player games.

>>376623086
Sounds fine to me, I can take my business elsewhere if I wanted

>>376622925
it's the same story with xbone/ps4. people are only buying subscriptions to play call of duty 754656 and fifa 934545

>>376609904
nintendo has worst online service out of all platforms, don't buy mutliplayer games from them and you golden

you could also go one step further by evaluating your life choices and come to the logical conclusion that owning a switch means you should kill your-

inner need of holding on to worldly possessions

>>376613295
Holy shit this is next level Jewing. I've never seen such a brazen admission of avarice from any video game company.

>>376623091
1/10 too obvious

>>376623175
>3 hours of Zelda is not portable either.
Uhhhh yes it is?

>>376621409
Oh ok I guess I'll start a change.org petition then they'll have to stop right?

>>376621985
It's just a free bonus for something you would be paying for anyway

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>>376623091
halo created the genre idiot

>>376623168

There is no free alternative, and phone has always costed.

Meanwhile it used to be free, and the best online platform (steam) is still free.

>>376615058
>>376615780
Nah I'm fairly certain that only the 360 games are free even after your sub lapses, and yes this also applies if you downloaded the 360 games to the Bone.

>>376611669
MK8D's online is P2P though. It won't run any better paying or not.

>>376622553
If you're connected to the wifi you already pay for, you actually can make calls for free

>>376623175
>Going out in public to play your handheld game for longer than 3 hours.

Nice autism there buddy

>>376623303

Don't buy it. If enough people do this, it won't happen. Microsoft tried charging for it on PC before and it didn't work

>>376623321
are there really people here who think "free" things you have to pay for are free? surely you guys are a bit sharper than that.

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>PCfats think they get their online for free
Oh, I guess you do if mommy is paying the Verizon or Comcast bill

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>>376623091
>Shooter

HAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK MY FUCKING SIDES HAHAHA
10/10 Funny post bro.

Splatoon was the most boring drivel shit that Came out.
Literally got bored after 2 matches because it just became repetitive bs.
Shitty matchmaking that would pair you to Japanese and Americans and have high pings.
It was fucking garbage.
>b-but Splatoon 2
Oh so garbage shite + jet packs.

>>376623527
pcbros will never ever have to pay an additional $60 per year to play games they've already bought

>>376623527
Option 1 for me :(

>>376623168
>messaging, social network, shop, game download servers

but you get all those for free

>>376623527
So mom is paying your wifi AND your switch sub then?
Because no matter how you roll it, you are still paying twice if you or them pay for those two things.

>>376623512
Because you have alternatives whereas there are no alternatives on console

>>376609904
so it says it starts in march does every just get the "free trial" because I never signed up for anything and I get online multiplayer still.

>>376609904
Is this supposed to be a shitpost dummy? Assuming you don't play nintendo, you're already paying, and if your a pc fag, you are a drm slave. Try again tomorrow.

>>376618513
Valve are the biggest Jews in the industry
Them getting fucked by our court was glorious
>W-we're not technically selling to Australians
I have no idea why they STILL don't have an Australian Steam when they have a fucking New Zealand one.

>>376623540
*shoots my ink all over you*

>>376623527
>PC
>Internet bill
Play online

Any other console
>Internet bill
>Online pass
Now you can play online

Stop trying to grasp at straws faggot.

>>376623646
The "trial" ia already on, everybody gets it, they will just pull the plug later to force you to pay for it.

>>376623168
>>internet/phone servers cost money

you are not paying for servers, you are paying for bandwidth.

>>376623168
>>matchmaking, messaging, social network, shop, game download servers cost money but I don't want to pay for it

the first 3 cost nothing. now arguing that you should pay to access a shop is just playing retarded.

>>376609904
I mean that's true and also it's not expensive at all.

Also gaming was always a luxury hobbie lol, the only non-luxury gaming aspect was free MMO gaming that a lot of us did back in the day because our parents wouldn't buy us a new console but even then we had to pay/ask for a decent rig and a stable internet connection, so yeah gaming was always a luxury hobby

>>376623508
>>376623290
>Came home
>Recharge your smartphone
>Recharge your Switch
>Recharge your tablet
>Recharge your bluetooth headphones
>Recharge whatever else I forgot

Is this the world we choose to live in?

>>376623597
>>376623612
>>376623634
>>376623704
too easy

>>376609904
here's your reply Miyamoto

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>>376619358
You think maybe they haven't implemented them because they have charged or announced anything yet? Or are the japanese devs you don't like just jewish you faggot edgelord.

>>376623901
Put me in the screencap /r/trolling

>>376623858
Lol wut?

>>376623175
>>376623290

Do you guys not have a fucking power bank.

I have a huge one and it makes it last 15 hours. Fucking handheld scrubs.

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>>376619642
nintendo is greedy, all other developers are generous. so says this bozo

>>376624046
Okay

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>online for a console with two (2) games
>only one of them even has multiplayer features

>>376624046
>>376623858
Oh, right.

>Recharge your recharger

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>>376622925
>you still see ads

>>376624170
Supposedly they are going to release more, you "ps3 has no gaems" memelord

>>376623858
>Come home
>put switch on the dock
>play games
>recharge phone
>tablet already at full charge because its been home all day (who tf carries a tablet and a smartphone)
>implying Bluetooth headphones (get a better car)
>switch recharges after done playing games

I don't see a problem

>>376624046
That's not an argument though.

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>>376610083
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

>>376624315
Aww poor puppo

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>People are really defending these bullshit practices
How long before PC online starts to have subscription services and fees?

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>>376624272
>>put switch on dock
>>play games

What games?

>>376624287
>Details way on how to make a console last
>b-b-but not an argument let me quickly move these goalposts.

>>376624491
Yea

>>376624491
Very soon now. With more and more games being exclusive on Steam platform because of muh Steamworks, I fully and unironically suspect Valve to charge for premium services in the next 24 months

>>376624526
98

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>>376609904
False flagging about paid online being alright has been done to death for a few years now, put it to rest

>>376624170
>2 games

>Bomberman
>MK8
<Fast Rmx
>Minecraft
>NBA playgrounds
>Puyo
>Multiple other titles to be released before fall

>2 games
Wow I guess all these games dont exist

>>376624491
It's insane.
>microsoft gets paid online
>fanboys defend
>the other three platforms laugh at them
>sony gets paid online
>fanboys defend
>the last two platforms laugh at them
>nintendo gets paid online
>fanboys
>only one left laughing now

>>376624491
ok im tired of this bulls hit of

>HES DEFENDING THESE PRACTICES LE HURR DURR

you people need to fuck off, seriously. If you didnt think nintendo was going to do this you're a fucking moron. Microsoft and Sony both do it and its has become standard; get over it poorfags and get a fucking job if you cannot pay for it. But I suppose you faggot will still cry "but, but my autism doesnt allow me to get a job." Please just neck yourself. You dont have autism, you don't have any kind of mental problems, you're just lazy sacks of shit.

>>376621676
>Early days of DLC
>Companies get told to fuck off by the gaming media and consumers
>Gradually introduce it (frog in frying pan analogy) via methods like paid online and single player expansions
>Gaming media begins guilting its consumer base to get one part of the market compliant; normies don't know any better so they shell out the dosh anyway
>Games gradually get tacked on multiplayer modes with shit tons of DLC
>Introduce on-disc Day 1 DLC in an effort to curb the used game market (despite the used game market likely to generate goodwill and interest in the games anyway, just look at fucking Nier)
>They keep pushing to see what they can get away with shit like season passes that get complained about with a few egregious examples (Destiny) but the consumer base is still compliant
>Kikestarter begins Jewing customers for the vague promise of games because the developers are too poor and/or lazy to foot the bill themselves and the product ends up substandard
>Companies getting the bright idea from Telltale to actually release games piecemeal and progressively Jew customers
>Microtransactions now a thing with in-game currency to be bought via real money and pay2win games gradually infecting the console market to the present day

Gamers are the most cucked demographic in existence. No other group gets as much shit from its media to continuously shell out money for increasingly inferior products. No other industry is this tolerated. The general public is absolutely toothless in fighting it.
I'm wondering what's in store next, honestly. The reality of John Fettuccine almost getting people to pay for bullets is nearly here.