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ITT: Vidya red flags >procedurally generated >roguelike

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ITT: Vidya red flags

>procedurally generated
>roguelike
>crafting
>survival
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>open world
>cinematic experience
>Triple A
>Season pass
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Early Access
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>retro graphics
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>Anime art style
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>>376591275
>Third person FPS MMORPG Visual Novel
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>wider audience
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>reboot or re-imagining
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>>376591275
>Early Access
>Indie
>EA
>Ubisoft
>Activision
>Nintendo
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>/v/ likes the game
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>90s inspired
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>Todd Howard
>Randy Pitchford
>Ubisoft
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>easy to get into but difficult to master
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>Nintendo
>SCEA/SCEE
>Microsoft Game Studios
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>>376591275
>story focused
>f2p
>"see that mountain?"
>developed by post 2004 EA
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>metal soundtrack
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>a mirrion troops
>authentic
>dynamic
>other buzzwords that mean fuck all
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>>376591275
>tfw Cataclysm DDA is all 4
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>>376591628
those are the best games, enjoy your shit games with boring tutorials, easy endgame content and broken multiplayer
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>>376591275
>Innovative

/thread
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>visceral
>boots on the ground
>fast paced
>boots on the ground
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Indie
Indie
Indie
Indie

>indie indie indie indie indie
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>advanced ai
>living breathing world
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>376591759
>boots on the ground
boots on the ground
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>>376591275
>strategy
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Is that a shoop or did some someone snap a picture of a guy about to kill himself?
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>not a sliver of gameplay in trailers
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>early access
>season pass
>open world
>crafting
>survival

all in one game
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>>376591693
Is it fun?
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>sequel is so incredibly streamlined and casualized compared to its predecessor that it might as well not even be related to it
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>>376591275
>vidyagames
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> Free to Play
> Respectful towards (SJW buzzwords here)
> MOBA
> Steam
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>>376591898
totally real, and they didn't even stop him, the madman

rip in peace bald man
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>Immersive
>cinematic
>Next-Gen
>Open-World
>Open-ended
>emotionally inspiring
>Launch Title
Any time i see an advertisement featuring any of these i immediately drop all expectations.
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>>376591673
>chiptune soundtrack
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>>376591942
During first few hours it is.
It is also really comfy
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>destiny
>bunjie
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>Retro
>anything with a vaporwave/synthwave style
>Early Access
>Anything with memes in the trailer or game
>Any "indie" looking game by a major company
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>>376591673
>dubstep soundtrack
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>>376591275
> Majority of /v/ likes it

Also, the game is usually good if the majority of /v/ shits on it
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>>376591275
>orcs are "didn' dos" or green humans
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>>376591275
>indie
>early access
>mmo
>f2p
>open world
>crafting
>multiplayer only
>ubisoft
>gearbox

also PR like
>...experience X like never before"
>...now EVERYone can...
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>>376592165
So.. just the one game then? You give everything else a shot?
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>>376591275
>indie
>early access
>retro
>open world
>"it gets good after X amount of hours"
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>spiritual successor
>retro
>crowd funded
>cinematic
>story-focused
>mictrotransactions
>EA
>Ubisoft
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>>376591673
>hip hop soundtrack
>orchestral soundtrack
>experimental soundtrack
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>>376592332
Soon to be 2.
Pro tip that wasn't my first post
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>>376591275
>Indie
>retro
>LEGO
>Virtual Novel
>Telltale Games
>"_____________ Simulator 20xx"
>"_____________ Manager 20xx"
>Early Access
>Walking Simulator
>Story Rich
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>crafting
>early access
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>QTE to live
I really love Byonetta but those instant death parts could go to hell.
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>>376591825
What's wrong with indie games? Some of the best games are indie.
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>>376592186
I can't think of a single game with a dubstep soundtrack.
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>Indie
Dropped, no interest.
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>>376591275
>Tons of marketing
>Showing up to every single press conference possible to promote the game
>A high budget movie made for the game before it's release.
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>>376591275
>bioshit
>ubishit
>EA
>weebshit
>microshit
>sonybros
>japanese
>western
>rpg
>shooter
>driving
>startegy
>retroshit
>nostalgia bait
>waifu bait
>space exploration
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>>376592429
I don't actually care, but thanks for displaying how desperate for replies you are. Here's another, you thirsty bastard.
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>>376591275
>Korean MMO
>Western MMO
>MMO
>Massively Multiplayer Online
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>>376591275
Factorio:
>procedurally generated
>crafting
>survival
>Early Access
Yet it's arguably one of the best games of the decade.

A good lesson never to judge game based on one-word feature description, but only on the actual available product.
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>Free to play
>Recent reviews: Overwhelmingly Negative
>Overall reviews: Overwhelmingly Negative
>RPG Maker
>Side scrolling platformer
>Roguelike
>Metroidvania
>Console port
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>combines FPS and RPG elements
"""""""RPG"""""""
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>game starts with a quote
>commercial/trailer has popular mainstream music
>commercial/trialer is entirely cinematic or not using in-game footage
>rhythm game
>sport game
>music game
>8-bit shit
>indie simplistic designs
>half the characters are overly japanese waifus
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>>376592457
Mainly the fact that one has to wade through an ocean of uninspired shit to find a couple gems. If Steam's refunds were instant, it probably wouldn't be as much of an issue.
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>>376593046
I liked ARK and a couple zombie games. Why does everyone hate this?
Killing people in open world games when they are trying to craft anything is hilarious.
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>>376592493
Far Cry 3?
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>>376591275
>roguelike
Only a true redflag when combined with
>real time
or
>FPS

because then it 100% is not actually a Rogue-like and just riding the false advertising hype train.
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>>376593518
I remember being 12 and liking shitty games too, anon.
You'll grow out of it eventually.
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walking simulator, season passes before gameplay, CG trailers and EA promises
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>crowdfunding
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>>376591275
>tfw love adom, dungeon crawl, nethack, and cataclysm DDA
>get excited when i see roguelikes becoming popular
>buy one, FTL: faster than light
>not a roguelike at all

fucking hell it doesn't even seem bad but that poor categorization just left me so disappointed that i cant enjoy it
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>>376593006
The fucks wrong with rhythm games?
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>>376593518
>Why does everyone hate this?
I suspect that the obscene saturation of the market with half-baked cash grabs might have something to do with it.
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>>376591275
But Don't Strave is actually fun and comfy tho.
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>>376593872
That was one instance for a joke level. The soundtrack is mostly tribal drums and flutes, not dubstep.
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>>376594270
Just assume that if it says roguelike on steam it isn't, sure there are like 3 or 4 that are but thats it and nothing new being added will ever be.
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>>((((())))))
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>>376591275
>anime
>over the top edgy
>controversial
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>game with "le epic maymay reference xDD"
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>>376591275
>terraria has all of those and it's still an amazing game.
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>>376594803
(You)
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>>376592457
some. but not 99% of them. just go look at steam fucking greenlight
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>>376594305
Yeah but just like minecraft (At the time)

one game comes along and paves the way for many other people who just can't do it as well.
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>>376591275
>western game
>female MC
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>>376591275
>RTS
>FPS
>RPG
>Fighting game
>Sports
>Game
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>fun
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>>376591560
jesus fucking christ
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>back to it's roots
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>>376595254
Name one that isn't Horizon or Tomb Raider you fucking autist
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>Early Access
>Gearbox
>EA Origin
>F2P
>Tencent is behind
>Korean MMO
>MMO in general
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>>376591275
<we want to appeal to a wider audience
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>diversity
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>>376591391
>>376591275
>>376591825
>>376591921
>>376592357
>>376593046

B-but i want to make a game like this. How can i make it so that you don't shit on it?
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>>376592428
>hip hop soundtrack
Name 78 games that do this
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>>376596618
Darksiders 3
Prey 2017
Shantae series
The Walking Dead
Recore
VA-11 Hall-A
Dishonored 2
Mirror's Edge Catalyst
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>Early access
>Visual novel
>survival
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>>376591908
>you will never be able to draw this well
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>>376597668
I can't shit on something that never gets made, anon. Let's keep it that way, for the both of us.
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>Family
>Casual
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Procedurally generated is always a red flag. Which is a shame because I love the concept, but it can never be properly integrated in a modern game. It works fine in roguelikes for example, and childrens games like mineycrafta but it will never work in a game with actual graphics and shit, not in a good way anyway, case in point: No Mans Sky
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>>376591275

> open world
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>>376591275
>literally nobody has posted my pic yet

for shame, this board really has been infested by newshit redditors
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>Made by canadians.
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>>376598134
>nobody posted this epic meme that has nothing to do with the thread but the op's image
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>PC game
>horrible keyboard / mouse support
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>>376598274
>the image has nothing to do with the thread

hola reddit
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>a sequel to a beloved original game is announced
>new staff that did not work on the original start to talk about how excited they are to take the reigns and add their own take on the game
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>>376598454
>i was merely pretending to be reddit

reddit
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>>376598454
>>376598557
>this 9gag tier posting

jesus christ
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>>376598557
SAVAGE

WORLDSTARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>376598604
HAHAHA how much of a newfag are you. capped and laughing out loud.
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>>376598557
>>376598454
>pretending that you were pretending to be retarded
Is this actual autism?
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>crafting
>Survival
>Openworld
>Zombies
>Memes
basically anything that is either inspired by dayZ or Rust is absolutely garbage.
Then on the AAA side of things you have
>Openworld
>Different dev team than previous titles
>The last title in the series is more than 5 years old
>Bethesda Game Studios
>Zombies
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>complex gameplay with choices that require thought
>characters that aren't shallow tropes or don't rely on sex appeal
>good soundtrack
>unique and well-crafted visuals
>a fun or overall satisfying experience
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Scripted gameplay trailer of "ingame footage"
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>>376591275
>massively multiplayer
>team-based
>social networking elements
I want to play my fucking games as god intended: alone and in the middle of the night, when nobody I know is awake anyway.
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>SJW dev

LISA doesn't count because dingaling went insane after he made it.
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>>376599323
rarely has consequence
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>>376599354
They always make shit games due to creative bankruptcy. You wouldn't expect a deaf and blind retard to make a good video game for the same reasons.
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>>376591275
Yea if they come from an indie dev.
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>>376591275
but terraria is all of those except roguelike and is one of the best indy games ever
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>>376599465
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>>376591275
>Inspired by X
Don't even waste my time.
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>>376599439
you are under the spell of a placebo political alignment has nothing to do with game quality
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>>376591275
early-access
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>>376591275
>>survival elements + zombies
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>>376599746
Then I guess it's just a coincidence that has persisted since the 90s.
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>>376591275
>JRPG maker
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>>376591959
DA origins>DA2for example
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> sandbox
> competitive
> moba
> multiplayer
> f2p
> microtransactions
> mmo
> male mc
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>>376599802
you shouldn't feel forced to arbitrarily taint every aspect of your life with your political ideology
to put this into language you'll understand (or misunderstand, rather): you're cuckolding yourself from a wealth of good games and film and music and even friends when you jackknife lacerate everything you could love from your life because it's in conflict with your new religion
blind
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>>376591898
>not recognizing the zimmerman trial
underage pls go
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>>376600243
Actually I enjoy a good amount of films made by liberals, but not progressives since they make shitty work for some reason. It's almost like they're tools incapable of producing art or any significant indicator of intelligence in their design.
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JRPGs
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>dark souls of
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>>376600243
>getting triggered when someone says SJWs make garbage

You could've ended the argument by listing some good things that've been made by SJWs but it's common sense that such a thing isn't possible.

If you're just going to be a baby you should stay in your crib.
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>>376591275
I remember when survival meant good game
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>>376591275
>female protagonist
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>western dev
>Compile Heart, NIS
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>>376592493
Any of the new Saints Row games?
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only one that matter
>open world
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>>376600850
recommendation threads go on /wsr/ ;)
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>>376591275
>canadian developer
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>>376601159
Every track in Saint's Row is licenced. If the soundtrack had dubstep in it, it's your own fault for not changing the radio station.
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>pixel art derivative of sword and sworcery

youre not even TRYING
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>>376601308
this is honestly the best advice, avoid the leaf, even their games are shitposts that lower the quality of the industry
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>>376591275
Sound ok to me, some games with SOME of that stuff at least turn out ok.

This is a better list:
>Tim Schafer
>Peter Molyneux
>Cliffy B
>Cinematic experiences
>Trailers show everything but gameplay
>BioWare
>Ubisoft
>EA
>Bungie
>343
>Modern Capcom
>Modern Konami
>10/10 score
>"Diversity quota met"
>"We want the Call of Duty audience"
>LEGO
>Zombies
>Online only
>Season pass
>Jim Sterling likes it
>2.5D
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>>376592493
Tekken Tag 2
>>
>a love letter to gaming
>indie
>kickstarter
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>>376601669
Jesus fuck what an aimless shitty list. You sound like a contrarian strawman
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>>376591391
>what is hotline maimi
>what is please don't touch anything
>what is terraria
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>>376601669
>2.5D

Megaman 2.5 totally disproves this. Also if you're talking about graphical style then nearly every modern fighting game proves you wrong.
>>
if jim sterling rates it high, you can safely assume it's shit
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>if made by telltale "choices matter"
>anything ubisoft makes
>if you die you need to wait more then 40 seconds to respawn, yes even cs go
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>>376601669
Explain to me how diversity is bad in any way?
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>>376601823
>if you're talking about graphical style then nearly every modern fighting game proves you right.

Fixed that for you.
You can't honestly think the diarrhea that is Street Fighter now looks better than Alpha/3? And don't even get me started on the vs. series. MvsC3 looked like an entire game made of playdough and foam.

The only fighting game that did 3D right is Guilty Gear because it at least looks aesthetically pleasing while still being true to the source material.
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>>376592437
Lego games are amazing ways to participate in the worlds you love in a friendly way, sure they're all the same just re-skinned, but the world is what you play for, the puzzles are decent and comfy
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Not having local multiplayer.
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>>376591908
I fucking drop any game where this happens unless it's a series I blindly get every game that comes out because I'm a unreasonable fanboy for the series. I don't think that EDF will release trailers without gameplay though.

Fucking Dead Island, I was interested in it until I saw that dumb ass artsy trailer
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>>376601336
But I have to listen to it if I want to proceed with the game in IV, because of the dumb ass Dubstep gun
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>>376598454
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>>376599746
As someone who's very left leaning: That's not correct. It's not an iron clad rule that SJWs can't ever produce a good game, and the guy you replied to is obviously full of shit, but there's a reason for the meme. It's not about political alignment in general, but the specific ideology you're subscribed to and SJW ideology directly impedes the way you could express yourself for several reasons.

First and foremost, it's a stupid one, and the dull talking points are really transparent in any work of art, because there's barely any nuance to them. It's also a very authoritative one and ironically based on a very clear group hierarchy. If you aren't high up the ladder in the in group, taking risks can backfire on you, and since basically everything can be sexist or racist, if someone doesn't like you, you can be thrown out of your group very quick. Not taking risks is very bad, if you want to make a really good game. Which ties into the next issue: The SJW ideology is ripe with specific ideas how any kind of story should be like. If you don't shove other races and cultures, you don't have any idea about, into your game, that's an issue. Language gets policed very extensively. There's a check list for SJW approved games, you can't possibly beat.

I played a shit ton of indie games and some of the SJW devs can keep their ideas somewhat seperate, but many of them can't help but make it so obvious, because the ideology dominates the way they think so much. And it usually cheapens the game a lot.
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>>376592763
>autism excel spreadsheet simulator
>best game of the decade
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>>376602094
>Explain to me how diversity is bad in any way?

It isn't, but when it's obviously shoe-horned in it can be just as obnoxious as a game shoving religious ideas/images into your face. I want to play videogames, not learn about the dev's ideology.

But if you want a more concrete reason why it's cancer, it opens up Pandora's box of outrage. You go out of your way to put a woman or minority centerstagein a game and think you did good by the social overlords of the world, then those characters die/get fucked up. Suddenly you're public enemy #1 and now the game is known mostly for this controversy. It's just an endless clusterfuck that could have been easily avoided by not trying so hard.
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>>376602912
>I want to play videogames, not learn about the dev's ideology.

When will they get this? They are so desperate to push their ideas because noone listens to them IRL they think they can force it in games. More and more people are just sick of them
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>>376602197
>You can't honestly think the diarrhea that is Street Fighter now looks better than Alpha/3?
Doesn't matter if it looks better if it plays better which is objectively true seeing how the only decent SF3 game is Third Strike and every Alpha game is a broken mess with only 2 being quick enough to not be painful. Also modern KI is an extremely good game, MKXL is one of the few good MK games, and UMvC3 looks better than MvC2 because it had a consistent artstyle all the way through.
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>all threads related to the game demand i say something nice about her
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>>376591275
What is Dwarf Fortress

OP is a faggot
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>>376601781
so you unironically only play AAA games?
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>>376591275
>Soulslike
>Roguelike
>Anything to do with Valve
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>>376602912
>shoe-horned in
How would that even work? Humans are literally equal - unless bad stereotypes are being used, it's just a matter of having compelling characters.

>a game shoving religious ideas/images into your face
People being different is not an idea, it's a simple fact. Why is it bad when games are reflecting reality?

>You go out of your way to put a woman or minority centerstagein a game and think you did good by the social overlords of the world
Why would you even think that this is what's going on? How is having a female main character not the most normal thing in the world? Why does it matter at all? Why do you believe everyone's just following some kind of agenda?!?
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>>376597941
heh, no way fagit, I'm going to make that game and you can't stop me.
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>We're going back to our roots
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>>376592185
>missing furi
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>>376601808
>what is 80% of the trash on steam greenlight
A handful of decent games cannot absolve the thousands of garbage games.
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>>376592185
>Any "indie" looking game by a major company

Snake Pass proves you wrong
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>>376591673
>soundtrack
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>>376603509
>How would that even work? Humans are literally equal - unless bad stereotypes are being used, it's just a matter of having compelling characters.

See the newest Mass Effect: where characters are trans and gay and their entire character is them just constantly letting you know they are trans and/or gay. They're basically the new token blacks.
That's what I mean by shoehorned in.
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>>376591525
Came here for this
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>Online
>AAA
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>>376598454
>>376598557
This shit actually made me laugh.
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Why do people flame procedual generation when Dwarf Fortress exists?
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>>376599821
Makes me cry everytime.
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>>376594510
>over the top edgy
>this is a bad thing
heh. you have bad taste, kid.
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>>376591275
>>
>cinematic
>crafting
>diverse
>inclusive
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>>376593518
>mobileposters
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>>376591275
Nothing wrong with proc gen in tile-based games when shit happens on single plane. It does not work with 3D.

Roguelike is ok if it's actual roguelike. Rogue-lite is retarded shit that should die in a dumpster.

Crafting is fine if it's actual crafting (look up Evil Islands game) and not just straight up upgrades to equipment that could've been done just as well in a barter/upgrade form.

Survival is universally shit unless it is paired with detailed hand-made environment, interesting enemies and clear plot goals.

>>376603327
DF works because it's literally a proper Roguelike, except all rogue rules without exception are applied to every entity. Also amazing interactivity.
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>>376604685
I haven't played ME Andromeda but I refuse to believe that it's as bad as you're describing. But even if it was, that's hardly a matter of "foced diversity" but rather just bad writing. I'd argue that it's very much possible to write good homosexual/trans characters but Bioware simply wasn't up to it.
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>>376596484
Calm down dude, it's just Jeff Hardy
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>survival
>mmo
>multiplayer
>indie
>early access
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>>376606285
Because it is usually done badly. That is an exception, not the rule
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>>376607438
It's not bad, but it's an epithome of blandness.

There are :

usual token characters with single-trait personalities
usual crafting system
usual openworld shit with loads to do, but all those loads are same collectathon and "run from A to B and back a few times" boring as hell shit
Combat is there but it's bland. Better than previous games, but that's not a hard achievment
Story is bland with one Evil Race of Badguys, Main Badguy who Monologues and parades his assumed superiority over everyone else, and Remnants Of Ancient Long Gone Race that left Robots Behind.

It's meh.
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>>376608392
I meant "not as bad" in terms of characters "constantly letting you know they are trans and/or gay".
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>>376604209
Terraria and Hotline Miami never touted "Retro graphics" when they were released and shit.
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>>376591275
>Bioware
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>>376607438

>Hi, my name is steve and i'm your pilot
>Hello
>I'm so gay! I miss my husband!
>Uh... Ok?
>My husband!
>Dont worry man, everything will be fine.
>Does that mean you will let me suck your dick?
>What?
>You were good to me that means you want a relationship
>Do your job and do not ever talk to me again

Classic bioware
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>>376601669
>Tim Schafer

Name one (1) bad game by him.
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>>376601669
Pretty good list I will say.

I will add Beamdog and Inafune.
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>>376591275

>Procedurally generated open world survival retro pixel platformer game with Metroidvania influences

Sometimes I think these people just throw words together without figuring out what it all means
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>fantasy game
>warrior, thief, mage archetypes
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What's the difference between Rogue Likes and Rogue Lites?

I keep seeing people getting mad at improper usage of the terms or straight up lying about games being rogue likes
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>>376604685
I hate gays and even I think this is too bad a representation of them
Only the LARPers are like that
I'm pretty sure this is not the day of the average faggot
>wake up in the gayest way possible
>brush my teeth but do it in a gay way
>eat a gay fucking breakfast
>put on the gayest clothes I can find
>>
>Game is either loved by /v/ or hated with passion

This is a sign of good game.
>>
>>376602424
>I was intersted until I saw that dumb ass artsy trailee
So you were never interested in it? pretty sure that was the reveal trailer
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>>376608743
There's 2 characters that are literally

"I believe in god, universe is his wonderful creation, we all should appreciat it and probably pray"
and
"I'm kinda gay and have hots for you (if you male) and im trying to hint at it at every opportunity"

And that's all there is about them. The fact that there's nothing else about them makes every dialogue with them that is not strictly professional go along the scenario described above, and that's really grating when you compare them to a bit more complex characters like Drack.

It says something about the rest of the cast if krogan warlord is the most complex, well defined and relateable character in the game.
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>>376597763
Prey you can choose
The Walking dead can only be argued for half and even then it's still argueable
Recore failed for other reasons
Dishonord 2 you can choose but even then it was a decent game
Haven't seen much of Va. so I won't speak on it. But your argument is based upon other issues that aren't inherent upon those games having female MCs and even then you still couldn't attribute the flaws to female MCs in total
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>>376591275
>doesn't like roguelikes

You disgust me
>>
>made by an american studio
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>>376606813
people still play KoL? Holy shit.

First game I was ever hooked on, probably spent more time on it than WoW.
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>>376599169
man after my own heart
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>>376599169
>I want to play my fucking games as god intended

So pure 1v1 MP games like pong
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>>376614376
what is that
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>>376591275
>ludo
>narrative
>experience
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>>376591825
Indie is in fact the only thing holding the non japanese gaming scene together.
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>>376614443
a reply generator
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>>376614443
hoof without the hard part. the equine equivalent of yanking out your big toenail.

the animal is dead though, thank christ
>>
>>376591275
>Praised by Kotaku and/or Polygon.
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>>376614376
>>
>>376610284

Plz rspnd
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>>376591525
Good thing that's never happened.
>>
>military FPS
>Realistic racing
>vehicle simulator
>>
>>376597668
Don't pander to v you turbo autist. They don't know what they want
>>
>>376610284
>>376615597
Roguelike means similar to the game "Rogue"

Roguelite means similar to the game "Rogue" but with many of the elements that make the game challenging, such as permadeath, removed.
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>Female Protagonist
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>>376616458
>>376610284
shared: permadeath, random generation of levels and shit.

rogue like: doesn't really exist anymore but supposed to mean that every run of the game is new. Starting new game at hour 1 or hour 200 in the game only diffirence in your experience

rogue lite: Unlockables and everything else that actually makes people play more than 2 times. Like Isaac has items that you can unlock and then encounter in your next run.
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>>376597668
You can research the specs of old consoles and design "retro graphics" that would actually work on them. Treat it as a self-imposed challenge, not an excuse to do less work.
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>its a bad game
>its not a good game
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>>376607438
there is literally "oh my i was a man but now im a woman and i feel so great i feel so right" dialogue.
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>>376606285
Because DF doesn't have graphics. Making randomly generated 3ds-non-hexed-areas that don't look absolutely horrible is so hard that you either do that or make an actual game, people who try both end up with nothing.

Look at minecraft - it's kinda alright beacause it's bound to cubes and it still looks quite retarded if you look past "lol funny looking mountain"
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>>376602424
>edf

there's been game play footage for months. i can't contain my hype for it.
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>>376593046
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>>376592357
>after x hours

this when people tried to convince me to play wow. 'bro it gets good after level 40'. nah.
>>
>>376616627
Insecure faggot
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>>376591275
Nailed it with first post. Shit like Spelunky, Risk of Rain, Don't Starve etc. are terrible and I can't grasp the personality type of the people that play these games religiously.

Also this >>376591391 it's retrogressive. Retrogression is not something that should be idolized.

My personal red flags:

>it's an indie game
>it gets praised for its "emotional / unique" storytelling or the "experience"

Braid, Papers Please, Journey, fuck it all. Also,

>2D games trying to implement modern lighting mechanics

Hate that shit, looks terrible.
>>
>>376618886
Sup Anita?
>>
>>376591439
>third person
>first person
so literally the only game you play are from an over head point of veiw
>>
>>376591645
This is literal cancer.
>>
>>376619526
but oberhead is still in third person.
>>
>white male protagonist
>>
>>376619046
rockcock is that you?
>>
>>376591730
>innovative
>derivative
/thread
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>>376591275
>graphics
>sound
>controller functionality
>no controller functionality
>gameplay
>only cutscenes
>If it's a video game
>If it's not a movie by paramount
>If it is a movie by paramount
>If I was able to enjoy it in my lifetime
/thread
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>>376591275
>female protagonist
>roguelike
>procedurally generated
>indie
>voxel
>8-bit graphics/retro
>VR
>early access
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>>376619657
no, overhead it an aerial view, third person is literally only over the shoulder, and if you think otherwise you're wrong
>>
>>376591275
Hey now!
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>>376619970
But you're looking at character from third person's view, even if it's an "aerial".
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>>376591275
Early access
funded by kickstarter
"This game is the Dark Souls of it's genre"
EA, Activision logo on the box
Multiplayer only and costs $60.
Anything mixing FPS and RPG together
>>
>Western developer
>"It's like Minecraft but..."
>EA Games
>INDIE
>No waifus
>>
>>376591275
>anything you like that I dislike
>>
>>376602094
BECAUSE FUCK NIGGERS. IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? FAGGOT?
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>>376614516
let it fucking die already.
weebgames are the only ones that matter, and the only ones that are actually good
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>/v/ likes it
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>>376591275
>Produced by Canadian subsidiary
Have Canadians ever not been shit?
ReBoot's like the only think I can think of.
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>>376591275
>open world
>you choices matters
>triple A
>season pass
>day one dlc
>wider audience
>EA
>Ubisoft
>Activision
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>Outposts/towers/shrines
>Out of place obnoxious anime girls
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>>376591391
This especially gets me. I can forgive Shovel Knight since the developers admitted they fudged things a little to actually be more graphically complex than the NES era, and it's not a bad style of retro graphics in execution. But shit like STRAFE tries to compare itself to Quake, when its style and overall graphics are probably worse than Quake 1, much less 2 or beyond.

Too many developers, indie and triple A alike, think retro means bleeps and bloops, 8-bit graphics and 10 polygons, and resolutions or general spritework that are absolutely amateurish. Even Evoland 1, for how bland and derivative it was, actually took the effort to demonstrate how the graphics evolved back in the 8-bit and 16-bit eras. It's like they only look at a retro stereotype and didn't actually play the games that they're "inspired by".
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>>376591908
>GTA
>>
>>376614445
You best not be insulting based ludo, boy
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