Why do people hate the timer in this game again? I love the time

>>376586526

It typically heaped way too many things on you at once making it a mad rush to get to the safe room which the AI would fuck up even then since they all had to navigate jumping up a ledge then huddle in the corner possibly blocking you from getting in the safe room yourself.

Casuals

The game is meant to replayed.

>>376586526
This game was like a 8/10 for me.
Would have been a 9/10 if it weren't for the fucking respawning bosses. God that pissed me off.

>>376587635
This, if you're going into the game expecting yourself to do near everything in the game first try, then you've already failed before getting out of the helicopter.

>>376587272
You're literally meant to fail so you can restart at a higher level and more knowledge of what to do.
Dont be a bitch, and get good.

>>376587754
>respawning bosses

You mean the WEEEEEELLLLLL

They weren't even remotely dangerous since they'd crash into a tree and stay there.

>>376586526
I love the time aspect, if you just want to do the story you have plenty of time to get the best ending. Finding all the hidden survivors that Otis doesn't report was really neat and added replayability. You also got new costumes and weapons after beating the game if you did certain tasks, like beating the convicts or killing over 53,000 zombies

>>376586526
The AI was game breakingly bad. Made going from one section to another a literal ordeal that could take almost a half hour

>>376587272

Recently replayed the game for a 100% best ending all survivors run. If you know what to do and where to go, and are max level, you will actually find yourself with long stretches of time with nothing to do. The only major gripe I have about the game (besides retarded survivor AI) is the mission for finding the bombs in the garage lumping up with the mission to get back to the photographer jack-ass.

>>376587272
It's funny because once I understood how the game's events would play out and where the good items were, I always end up with a shitload of time on my hands to fuck around from time to time as I made my way from case to case.

>>376587865

I finished the game with every cheevo, don't talk down to me. Rank only meant your ability to deal with zombies or bosses which was easily made trivial after doing zombie genocider. It didn't help the moment you looked away from a group that a huge mob of zombies would spawn on them.

>>376586526
If the AI was better, it really wouldn't even be a problem. Thankfully 2's AI was a lot better.

>>376587935
And you don't even have to deal with them once you find the big shortcut early on anyway.

>>376588328

2's was a lot more exploitable. There was a book you could nab that would wipe away all their individual nuances like standing there crying or needing you to grab their hand. And the safe room was a lot more accessible needing much less pathfinding.

You can't be serious

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Man, the more I think about this game, the more I remember just how fucking good it was.

>Timer added a good challenge to try and 100% game too and made the world feel more alive
>Exploring the mall for new weapons/outfits/hidden survivors added more replayability
>Characters had personality and were interesting, especially the psychopaths

How did DR4 fuck up so badly??

Also, mfw responding to the out of controller roller coaster for the first time

>>376588734
>How did DR4 fuck up so badly??
Leafs.

>>376588734
>We're taking the series back to its roots
>Remove the core time mechanic
>No more mixing drinks
>Remove the signature psychopath fights
>Make Overtime fucking DLC
>Remove Co Op
>Bring Frank back but with a different design and voice actor

So like >>376588801
said, hipster leafs.

>>376588080
AI was garbo at following you, but managed themselves pretty well if you just told them where to go (in a straight line).

>tfw Skyrim turned out like it did because the idea of not being able to do everything in a single playthrough upsetted casuals

>>376588135
>mission for finding the bombs in the garage lumping up with the mission to get back to the photographer jack-ass.

The photographer was the main reason I said heaped too many things on you. There were also the mutinies which were their own timesink trying to get through the conversations with them. Kindell and Fatso had me grinding my teeth because I had shit to do. Didn't even know the dead guy the photographer kills was even saveable till I looked it up.

I hate time limits, even if they're stupidly generous. Let me do things at my own pace

I'm going to replay any game that I consider to be fun, if you impose retarded restrictions on me in hopes of making me go through everything again you've failed as a game designer.

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>>376588734
>How did DR4 fuck up so badly??
Did anyone buy the game? Once I saw it was being made by canadians I knew it would suck.
Typical Canadian Gamestyle:
*use 5 colors in the game at a time on screen so it all blends together
*Make it real dark and use horrible menus for everything

thanks leafs!

>>376588929
It's crazy how the series went backwards in all aspects. The first game had the most features, the most consistently good graphics, the longest playtime, most content, best map and best story. With each new game, features kept on being taken out for no reason until we're left with the literally nothing DR4 that plays just like any other typical zombie game with graphics that are so inconsistent (the lighting looks good with dynamic shadows and light sources, but textures and models are shit, map is empty, some items are just textures on the wall instead of being modeled and can be picked up, etc.).

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Give me a gun.

>>376588929
dont forget that within 5 minutes of the game you can make mini guns and get exo suits and build tank like vehicles making you immune.

no thought, no strategy, also the whole game is so dark you cant see detail on anything.

What ruined the game for me was:
>terrible survivor AI, especially when you're escorting multiple people
>The tank boss which was long, boring and drawn out
>No aiming sensitivity options
>Otis constantly harassing me with calls

>>376589180
DR2 sucked when I saw they got rid of Frank I didnt even bother buying it until Off the record came out.

>>376588801
>>376588929

I mean, I know why it sucked, I just want to know why they thought it wouldn't suck?? I am all for devs shaking things up and trying new things, but why gut everything that made DR... DR?? Adding co-op and weapon crafting was great in DR2. No load zones and vehicle crafting in DR3 were pretty good. Why not just stick with what works and try to add something new on top of it?

>>376589042

Again, once you know where to go and what to do nothing becomes an issue, including squashing the mutinies. I can understand though. Busting ass to save so many people only for them to fuck off late in the game was frustrating. Just remember it for the next playthrough and be prepared

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>>376589302
they made DR2 way too big, then DR3 was even bigger which was worse. in DR1 every area had personality and character with detail.

Bigger isnt always better

I'd like to dick around more and complete quests but finding the quickest way to things and managing time is cool too; I wish you could bring survivors with you and level them up.

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>Whats...Happening?
>GAH-guh-hah
>I understand

And that's why I stopped spending time in the security room

>>376589302
>I just want to know why they thought it wouldn't suck??
Based on the pre-release media and interviews, I don't think they knew they were doing wrong. They're still stuck in that weird 360/PS3 era of stripping a game down to make it as casual as possible on top of having lazy as fuck features tacked on. DR4 is the Saints Row 3 of the franchise. And you just know that, being a fucking leaf, they won't admit they did anything wrong because they already had the galls to say no one would want to play DR1 and 2 these days due to the time management and psychos, which was why they were taken out in 4. Time management was also practically non-existent in 3.

They're a bunch of lazy fucks caught up in their own hubris. They think the world owes them the sales just because it's another DR game and FRANK. IS. BACK.

>>376588734
The dolls were just "we don't want to be rated A for adult" censors and were actually supposed to be kids, right?

>>376586526
casuals expect to bear any game on hardcore the first time they run though. The game does not tell you it expects you to fail a few times while you level your frank

17 day survivor streams are great

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The canadian devs said they hated Dead rising 1 and 2. THey said they liked DR3 because it had a latino. Its no wonder this game sucked when its made by people who literally judge games based on the cover art.

WTF was capcom thinking?
Hey we found a whole group of ppl in Canada that hate the dead rising games. Lets hire them to make a dead rising game! What could go wrong?

>>376590225
Same with DmC

>>376590225
Japs just don't seem to think they can make good games. I kinda got the same vibe from Kojima too, they honestly feel that they make worse games than cinematic trash like Uncharted and shit, which is why they had that phase of outsourcing games to western devs like DmC and DR. Are all western game trash and have bad gameplay? Fuck no but Jap devs need to realise that they make great games too and trying to mimic shitty linear trash and outsourcing their franchises to western devs just isn't the way to do it.

I play games to relax.
I don't like being rushed. I like to explore, take my time and such.

If you know what you're doing, you just rush the clown boss, grab both mini chainsaws and the three magazines that dramatically increase weapon endurance... and the game's over. They even respawn!

>>376590872
>min max like an autist turns the game into ez mode
come back after you can beat (almost) every thing using barehand only

>>376587935
Exactly this. Everyone hyped these fuckers up to be some big bad boss but when I first played the game all they did was get stuck. Their easily the most underwhelming thing in the game and killing them is a breeze aswell.

>>376589003
>>376588080
it was but once you managed to figure out when to use the GO and FOLLOW ME and of course having 2 small chainsaws with 3 magazines your guud to go

>>376589560
Don't forget
>*crying*

>>376591773
>disemboweling and karate chopping spec ops dudes to death
Frank's hand-to-hand moves are the best.

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I felt really bad for this girl. I wonder if she made it out okay and got some Zombrex/meds or ended up killing herself.

>>376592513
>Be me
>spec ops with over 300 kills and involved in many secret raids on Al-Queda
>some crazy bastard wearing a servo mask, a dress and dress shoes disembowel/suplex/slam my friends to death
>he's coming at me
what do

>>376587935
It's all fun and games until you're going for some of the "Escort so many survivors" achievement before Adam shows up for the shortcut.

The AI was so bad they'd just run into the jeep's fucking line of driving. Low-level Frank was easy to die to those bastards, so much there's a part of me that still gets PTSD when I hear the "DUN NUN, DUN NUN" riff.

>>376592287
>sonovabitch
>sonovabitch
>sonovabitch

>>376592934

The cleanup crew got to them so most likely dead or in a lab. Then again I can't remember if Isabella and Frank were considered the only survivors or not.

>>376586526
my only problem with my game is the fucking ai

they fixed it in dr2 but then fucked with it again in off the record since i guess people complained that the survivors were TOO competent

>>376593508
I thought Otis stole a helicopter and made it out with all of the survivors. At the end of the game everyone except for Frank and Isabela are listed in the live survivor count, so I assumed they lived, since the bad ending where the bomb blows everyone up lists everyone as dead.

>>376593571
>fucked with it again in off the record
No. It's just that they take bigger damage from zombies and get grabbed more often.

>>376586526
I do not like timers in general they putting pleasure on me, that not fun at all.

>>376594628
good thing you can ignore it completely. You just won't get to continue the story mode and get to dick around with zombies and psycopaths

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>>376594628
>putting pleasure on me

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>tfw 5/7 Day Survivor never

>>376594727
Pressure, this auto correct is retarded.

>>376594796
>playing 18 hours in a row

That actually bricked people's 360's when it first came out.

>>376595026
Not if you used fans on the Xbox; hell the record time on the 360 currently is #4 with the time being 17 07 01

>>376586526
Hated it too until I actually played the game.
>>376593678
He did, he says this over a note once you return to the hideout. Or maybe it was the receiver, can't remember.

the top 3 aren't verified, but they reached Day 19 somehow

>>376587272
You actually had trouble getting all the things done in this game? You need more than just a little help for your autism.

I love time limit mechanics.

>>376587272
>It typically heaped way too many things on you at once making it a mad rush to get to the safe room
That's what made it so fun, you had to manage your time. The AI was garbage though, surprised they didn't fix it in the remaster.

>>376589162
>I hate health bars, even if they're stupidly generous. Let me get hit as much as I want
>I'm going to replay any game that I consider to be fun, if you impose retarded restrictions on me in hopes of making me go through everything again you've failed as a game designer.

>>376595198

No but seeing a single survivor still outside when I told them all to get in does trigger it though.

So what other Groundhog Day style video games are there? As far as I'm aware it's DR and Majora's Mask and that's about it.

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>>376586526

>>376596832
Great while timing Frank the Pimp/Tour Guide correctly

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>>376588226
>Don't talk down to me

You just gave me cancer. you got some pointless achievements (calling them cheevo. +4 cancer)
you're worthless.
your parents are divorced and hate you because you were an accident.
you desire praise because you want to kill yourself.

so please do it.