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>Ninty said switch will get all japanese third party ga-

Why does nintendo do this again? their low spec hardware is already disliked by many games
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>>376542445
Because Nintendo has left the homeconsole market, that's why they made an overpriced tablet.
Kek even my ipad got better specs
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>>376542445
Im sure Switch will get the new DW, it will just be watered down as fuck and look and perform like a PS2 DW game.
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Switch can't even run it's own Zelda, so it won't be able to run stronger 3rd party games.

Heck, I think Skyrim might get canceled, that game had a ton of problems on past gen consoles.
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>>376542445
Nintendo doesn't need third party support. Their consoles are not sold at loss, and they string out just enough first party support to turn a profit. Young children and hardcore Nintendo fans are fine having 4-5 good-to-great games over the span of the console's life, and are happy if they get anything more than that, so Nintendo's strategy works.

They can keep rolling the dice to see if they get a Wii-level breakthrough. If the console doesn't get that, they ditch it and move on.

There is nothing stopping Nintendo from releasing a new console in 2-3 years if the Switch starts underperforming.
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>>376543151
>Nintendo doesn't need third party support.
They don't, but I do. If a console doesn't have third party support then I'll just buy it after it's finished and cheap as dirt.
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>>376543250
But you aren't the console's target demographic. People who care about third party support or non-Nintendo exclusives aren't needed to make the console succeed, just casuals, children, and hardcore Nintendo fans.
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>>376542445
Wait are they finally making a new musou that isn't held back by the PS3 and Vita?
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>>376543323
I'm a younger adult who spends lots of money on games in a year and who actually bought a wii u. I'm pretty sure I fall somewhere in the target demographic, especially given the advertising they've done for the switch.
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>>376543438
I have some bad news for you.

These games haven't been held back by anything but the devs not having any idea what to do with the franchise.
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>>376543438
Yes. I imagine DW9 will the first real Musou game built for current gen consoles. Keep in mind everything so far was basically prettied up PS3 version because PS4 hadn't caught on as much in Japan. It helped them because they had last-gen versions to base Switch ports on, though.
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>>376543495
>I'm a younger adult who spends lots of money on games in a year.

Believe it or not, you actually aren't Nintendo's demographic. Ninty has surrendered that group to Sony and Microsoft. What Nintendo wants is casuals who will buy the console, 1-3 games and be satisfied. They want kids who need the latest, hotest Mario and Zelda. They of course want their hardcore base, who spreads word-of-mouth like a preacher, to buy the console, too.

But you are not the main focus. They just need their console to strike gold and come across as cool. The Wii software adoption rate was pretty bad for how huge its install base was, yet Nintendo considers the Wii an overwhelming success, enough that they gave it a direct sequel just like the NES to SNES. They literally don't give a shit about a hardcore gamer who wants a well-rounded console.
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>>376543495
>adult
>nintendo
Man thats some low quality bait right there
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>>376542445
So are we just going to fight console wars while ignoring the elephant in the room of fucking Dynasty Warriors falling for the open-world meme?
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>>376544091
Yep, I cant massacre civilians even if it goes open world so why even bother
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>>376542445

wow, he was pretty nice already, but posterboy mcshu-sama is kickass looking with a next-gen render
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Still by FAR his best video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj0N-GJZLMc
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>>376543000
>Im sure Switch will get the new DW
No, they're getting Fire Emblem Warriors but not DW9 unless they downgrade the graphics just like they had to do with DQ Heroes 2.
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>>376545114
DQH2 is honestly just Koei being fucking retards when it comes to optimization, the fact it looks worse than their Wii U title and runs worse is unforgivable.
In fact theirs no reason all Koei games shouldn't run 60fps on every system they are on.
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>>376543495
You're Sony's target demographic, not Nintendo's.
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Oh shit is this DW9?
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>>376543250
Why aren't you just playing those third-party games on PC?
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>>376545317
Yeah, and there are a lot of people worried about it since it seems to be taking a massive fucking risk that will most likely not pay off
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>>376545317
yes
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>>376545317
Yes but you should wait for DW9+XL instead of buying the vanilla game.
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>>376543738
>What Nintendo wants is casuals who will buy the console, 1-3 games and be satisfied
Sorry, attach rates for all their consoles say otherwise. Wii had an attach rate of over 8 games per console, that's better than the PS4 and Wii U right now.
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sony audience: 11-21
nintendo audience: 6-10, 22-40
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>>376542445
>>Ninty said
I stopped believing what "Ninty" says since the Wii days.
You should grow up too.
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>>376545510
Aren't attachment rates super fucking low right now for consoles?
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>>376545381
What do you want at this point? To repeat the same thing AGAIN? At least we can agree this wont be as bad as DW6 no matter what they do
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>>376545691
They'll fuck it up worse
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DQH2 PS4 = Runs very well on PS4 hardware designed with 2012 hardware, equivalent to PC high and very high settings. Mostly 60 fps

DQH2 on PC = Runs well, best version, looks and is better than the first game by a significant amount.

DQH2 on Switch = Looks and runs terribly on 2016 hardware more powerful than PS4

There you go.

An open world Dynasty Warriors game will NOT run well on a Switch, especially with the ambitions they have for this game.
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>>376542445
Can you post what is known about DW9 from the mag?
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>>376545740
No they wont. Dont be a negative nancy
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>>376545249
>theirs no reason all Koei games shouldn't run 60fps on every system they are on.

running 60fps in switch is very little titles only can do it.
even bomberman cant run 60fps on switch if its 1080p
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>>376545498
They don't make XL anymore. It'll be 9-II or something.
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>>376545498

Don't worry senpai i'm on PC so the only version i can get is the XL
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>>376545879
I have big news, the title is gonna be Dynasty Warriors 9.2 You can (not) play it on Switch.
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>>376545781
Gameplay Features
Open World - Overall
The reason why the team decides to make DW9 as Open World is they're taking challenges to make new things because as of the last numbered title (DW8), the series is coming to a stale.
DW9's Open World system takes some references from Toukiden 2, but it won't be the exact same because the nature of Open World in each games are different.
They plan to reproduce the whole lands of China, but with a focus on livable territories, and a further focus on places where major battles took place like Hulao Gate or Zhongyuan (Central Plains, Guandu etc)
Time & Weather will be changing in real time. In nighttime and/or rain it will be harder for enemies to notice the player. *NEW*

Open World - Cities
There will be over 10 major unique cities along with more generic towns & villages in the world map. *NEW*
The major unique cities such as Luoyang won't be as big as they were actually, but each area will be about 1 kilometer(square?) big so they should still feel large. *NEW*
Player can move into cities in the middle of battles.
Player should be also able to do purchases inside cities. *NEW*

Open World - Transportation
The main method for land transportation is by riding a horse, but a Fast Travel feature is also planned to be added. *NEW*
Swimming is confirmed returning from DW6. Player can also cross large rivers like Changjiang and Yellow River, although it may take about 5 minutes by swimming. *NEW*
Boats are also available as a faster transportation method to cross rivers. *NEW*
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>>376546067
Story Progression
Story mode is back to character-based (like pre-DW7), but the history progression is basically the same for each character (like pre-DW6). *NEW*
There will be no What-If/Hypothetical branches that alter history here. *NEW*
Story progression is based on eras (Yellow Turban Rebellion, Anti-Dong Zhuo Coalition, and so on). *NEW*
The starting era will depend on the selected character. For example if you choose Wang Yuanji she will start in an era later than what Zhao Yun would start at. *NEW*
Due to the different starting era, switching player character in mid-game is currently unconfirmed because they would have to re-introduce the era again if the new character's starting era is different from the current era. *NEW*
Discussions in the world map will be pertaining to that era. For example if you go to Nanman during Yellow Turban Rebellion era, you will hear Nanman people talking about Zhang Jiao. *NEW*

Battles & Missions
Each era has a main mission that must be cleared to advance the era. (eg. Defeat Zhang Jiao in YTR era to advance to Dong Zhuo era) *NEW*
The main mission starts with having a high difficulty, but it can be lowered by clearing other missions related to the main mission beforehand. *NEW*
Multiple battles may occur at the same time in different places, and the player will have to make a choice on which battle they want to participate in. They are no longer split by stages.
Player can capture castles in various ways other than the orthodox-from-castle-gate method. For example they can raid the castle from a higher elevation (eg. mountains), or do a stealth infiltration to hit the main target without getting noticed by other enemies. *NEW*
There are also subquests such as hunting wild animals with archery and battling against foreign tribes (eg. Shanyue) that have unique visuals. *NEW*
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>>376546162
State Combo
In the first interview, the team indicated that they are planning to revise the moveset system from what has been commonly known as Square for normal attacks and Triangle for charge attacks.
State Combo is the new moveset system that will change moves depending on the surrounding enemy situations. *NEW*
State Combo is comprised of the following 3 attacks: *NEW*
-Trigger attack: Begins the combo
-Flow attack: Combo that changes based on enemy situations
-Finish attack: Powerful attack that ends the combo
An example of how State Combo works is that when enemies are mid-air then the player character will jump towards them. *NEW*

Interactive Action
Actions will change depending on the surrounding terrains and objects. *NEW*
For example, player will be able to use field objects to attack, such as catapults. *NEW*
Player can also use a grapple hook to climb castle walls and high mountains. *NEW*
Player can utilize oil cans in field to cause fires. *NEW*

Other Action Revisions & Additions
The team has indicated that they want to keep some other systems like Musou attack to retain the exhilarating feel of one-vs-thousand
(Note: In DW8, all characters have 1st Musou, 2nd Musou, Aerial Musou and Awakening Musou)
Archery FPS mode from DW5 & before is returning & usable for all characters. It also lets the player to snipe enemies from afar. *NEW*
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>>376546251
Miscellaneous
On 31 March 2017, Producer Suzuki held a poll on Twitter asking if the fans prefer Liu Bei with mustache or not. The poll ended with the mustache winning 67% of the votes.
Producer Suzuki also said to use the poll comments as reference, in which many are suggesting both versions of Liu Bei (young without mustache & older with mustache) to appear in DW9, just like in SW: Spirit of Sanada.
Character models are being reworked from scratch to fit PS4-grade graphics. *NEW*
Characters' new costumes in DW9 will have a tendency of getting less flashier and more geared towards realistic based on the costumes in Three Kingdoms era. *NEW*
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>>376546162
>There will be no What-If/Hypothetical branches that alter history here.

Nope
Nope
Nope
NOPE
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hey, nintenbros. KT already gave you the BEST musou game in existence with warriors orochi 3, but you guys didn't buy it
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>>376545965
>Dynasty Warriors 9.2 You can (not) play it on Switch.
Goddamn, I actually smiled.
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>>376545616
They were and still are when compared to past consoles, but Wii U has something like 7.1 games per console and PS4 is now 7.5 per console or something close to that. Xbone I'm sure is lower than both, though.

The Wii had about 8.8 games per console, that's pretty good even if you consider that 100m of the games sold were pack-ins, and astounding when you realize most people still spout the meme that Wii owners didn't buy any games.
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Maybe devs should stop focusing on production values and instead focus on fun.
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>>376546251
>those fucking legs
does she have paget's disease in both legs?
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>>376543151
>hardcore Nintendo fans are fine having 4-5 6-8/10 games over the span of the console's life which is usually 4 years, so one 6/10 game per year and are happy if they get anything more than that, so Nintendo's strategy works.

This is actually quite sad if you think about it.
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>>376546378
GET THE FUCK OUT WITH YOUR WANG YUANJI-DONG ZHOU FAN FICTION PAIRING ENDING

HOP ON RED HARE AND GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>376546517
Maybe, I don't know.

>>376546460
What are you talking about? Are you trying to spin a developer known for stasis and dull shit being ambitious as a bad thing?
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>>376546526
It's also not true when you look at the numbers

Wii had a better attach rate than PS4 does
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>>376546757
>b-but Sony!
The Wii is 10 years old Anon, stop using it as a scapegoat to justify Nintendo's shitty practices.
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>>376546162
>There will be no What-If/Hypothetical branches that alter history here
Fugg, my husbando is one of the first people to die chronologically.

But thanks for posting all this, the rest has been really interesting, especially being able to skirt around gates now, and multiple missions leading to the main one, and the multiple battles occurring at the same time
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>>376547065
Can't handle facts and numbers?

Sorry the ubiquitous "casual" console that no one bought games for actually had a better attach rate for games than every single one of Sony's consoles.
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>>376546067
>>376546162
>>376546251
Honestly, all these features combined with Empires could be really fucking dope. Can you imagine and open world game where you suddenly appear with your army while two other forces are battling to conquer/defend and área and you finish both of them off and keep it for yourself?

Then Empires will truly be ROTK lite.
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>>376547225
>comparing a 7th gen console with an 8th gen console
>B-BUT MY NUMBERS!
Compare attach rate when the PS4 is 10 years old, not when it's 4.
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>>376547320
>Can you imagine and open world game where you suddenly appear with your army while two other forces are battling to conquer/defend and área and you finish both of them off and keep it for yourself?
Isn't that pretty much what Shu did with Jing province?
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About the not what if stuff. lets face it people, we just want a fucking new engine and new models. The fucking Empires version will be the true DW9 experience anyway
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>>376547432
Can you please delete this?

Thank you.
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>>376547398

>hardcore Nintendo fans are fine having 4-5 games over the span of the console's life which is usually 4 years

So, now you're saying it's not fair to compare them because it DIDN'T just last 4 years and people DIDN'T just buy four games and drop it?

Make up your fucking mind, you're directly contradicting yourself. You yourself said the Wii only lasted four years, how is it not fair to compare it to the PS4 now that its four years old? Are you admitting you were full of shit?
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>>376547114
Yup, that's one of the biggest changes. It's not just overworld in terms of a massive open world, this straight up destroys the current framework
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>>376547808
I'm not that Anon, you stupid piece of shit.
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>>376547114
>>376547320
I can't wait for this to hit PC.
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>>376547681
What are you going to do, wage a Northern Campaign against me?
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>>376547653
They already said they're starting from scratch with the models for this new game. The designs look closer to the PS2 games than the insane shit we saw in later titles.
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>>376547967
Nah, I will just leave Jia Chong's daughter fuck your empire's shit up.
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>>376547935
Assuming that's even true, why did you respond without reading all the posts in the chain?

I directly responded to that comment, then you chimed in without any context and spouted off some random bullshit about how facts and numbers shouldn't count. If the Wii's lifespan was only four years, what's wrong with comparing it to PS4?
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>>376548338
>Assuming that's even true
Really? You're gonna play that card? Go to fuck yourself with a rake, Nintenpig.
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>>376546338
>new DW9 costumes are going to be less flashy
This pleases me.
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>>376548502
>Anonymous image board
>lol I was TOTALLY not the same person, even though I directly replied to your post that was in turn directly replying to another post about specific comment made in said post within minutes, and the supposed other person still hasn't replied at all

Wii still has a better attach rate than PS4.
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>>376545498

>DW9+XL
>not waiting for based empires

It's like you don't want your OC Chinese man to watch towns burn.
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>>376545928
So later release but on the bright side I don't have to pay full price for the game and slightly lower for a 9.5 edition, and even then all I really want is Empires but I wonder if they can even make it work with open world
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>>376546460
it seems like they're doing just that, nintenfat
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>>376547808
Nigga fuck up and talk about DW9
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>>376548338
Nigga
Fuck
Off
With
The
Consolewar
Shiiiit
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>>376549363
Serious? Empires has been screaming for openworld. It would stretch out a characters progression and take longer to complete but fuck me it would be perfect for empires
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I've always been curious about the series but too pasive to actually give it a go and since seemingly the formula will get changed for the next game might as well ask:

Wich version of wich game should i get to get the pure Dinasty Warriors experience™? Wich one is the best one that let's you know what the games are all about?
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>>376551548
DW8XL
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>>376551274
I'm too used to the empire management being turn based so I don't really see how would it work, at least as an officer, I see it being like M&B, just right click follow your marshall/ruler until they get into trouble, free officer seems obvious enough, just walk into towns and take missions or ask to join an army, maybe ruler is just you doing stuff and go back to the castle to start a battle or walk up to a battlefield and your army appears out of thin air


>>376551548
Can't decide on a clear winner, DW8XL, or 8 Empires but maybe check their spin offs like One Piece or Zelda as well, similar thing but each spin off seems to have something that tries to set it apart from the rest
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>>376551548
8+XL is a good place to start.
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>>376551806
>>376552374
Thanks senpais, will go with DW8XL since neither of the spin off franchises caught my eye.
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>>376551548
For the old DW feel that the new one is trying to return to, go for Dynasty Warriors 5.

6, 7 and 8 are the nu-DW games and 8 is the best out of them.
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Hoping for a Switch version
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>>376553251
>Dynasty Warriors 4
Fixed for you.
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>>376554367
What's better in 4 than 5?

5 has a bigger roster, better visuals, higher enemy density, pretty sure it has more maps too, which campaign type you like is preference, and nothing else immediately comes to mind.
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>>376542445
Their first party team can't even properly run Zelda BotW. Also if third party publishers go to home consoles they can later easily go Steam later.
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>>376554765
Story modes. Character stories are just way too samey.

I also find the generals to be much bigger "bulletsponges" than in DW4, so it gets boring juggling the same guy
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>>376555473
DW 5XL had cool modes tough. Probably the most fun i had with DW games. Shame they have to scrap good ideas instead of improving them.
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>>376546162
>>376546251
>>376546338

I'm getting a Kessen vibe from this
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>>376555473
Like I said, that's preference. Something like DW8 does justice to that type of campaign but I felt it was very barebones in 4.
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>>376542445
I can smell the salt on you
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>>376542891
Cool story bro
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>>376543151
You mean a stronger switch powered by nvidia?
like ps4 ps4 pro two years later and now a ps5? Really makes you think...
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>>376542445
The switch can barely run a downgraded Dragon Quest Heroes, why would anyone believe it could run DW9.
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>>376545601
"grow up and play MY games" go fuck yourself
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>>376546421
I did. You don't speak for me faggot.
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>>376556416
>The switch can barely run a downgraded Dragon Quest Heroes
I'd blame that more on poor optimization than the system not being able to run the game period
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>>376554367

>Dynasty Warriors 3

Fixed again.
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