>4th GG >7th BB This is a fucking embarrassment. BlazBlue

>>376525565
It's pretty well known that Guilty Gear is more popular than Blazblue in America, it was always going to do worse than it. The game is on Sunday because the last time it was at Evo it was hype and there will probably be a dlc announcement like with GG and Dizzy last year.

>>376525565
>SFV
>Smash 4
>Smash Melee

How embarrasing. No wonder the fighting genre is dead.

>>376526068
Melee is good though.

>Smash gets 2 slots
>when an actual fucking fighting game from nintendo, Pokken, gets dropped

To be fair, it's showing last year was fucking terrible, but the game was also only out a month then so shit was unexplored, and the game isn't played even close to the same way now and keepaway characters used aren't nearly as dominant

>>376526068
The truth of the matter is that regardless of how people see Smash, it brings views and money. Way more than if it weren't included in the line-up.

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>>376525565
>the games are all either really bad or old as fuck
>the literal state of the fightan genre

>>376525565
Quit being a stupid cunt already.

>>376525565
EVO thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo

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>>376525565
>tfw Persona 5 Arena on the main stage next year

no Arms?

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>>376526230
>pokken got shafted for le MAHVEL DOOD HOYPE XD
>8th place

i dont know how people haven't gotten tired of that game yet
pokken isnt exactly perfect but i'd take it over mvc3 any day

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>SFV STILL #1

r/kappa BTFO, stay left behind.

>KoF

Is Trump's Wall working?
Sucks about that, hope the finals are going to be hype

>>376526068
Why? SFV has no competition right now. Tekken 7 isn't even out yet, you have to live in an Asian country to even play it. Luckily 75% of high level Tekken is just knowing a library's worth of frame data so Gaijins can compete of theory alone.

Injustice 2 isn't out yet either though with their recent Capcom Cup esque tournament series I'm assuming that Capcom guys will flock in droves to play it. Its not like they will struggle, NRS games are pretty fucking awful to play at a high level and their balance philosophy consistently makes characters brain-dead broken.

Smash is still smash, I'm really bummed Sm4sh took Melee's spot on finals day because Sm4sh on ESPN is going to be an embarrassment. Fucking 3 hours of Smashville is going to look awful for the normie crowd.

>>376526292
Tekken doesn't look so bad.

>>376526292
KoF is good.
Also the oldest fighting game only has 6 years

>>376526556
Who said SFV wouldnt get first. It's a goddamn street fighter tournament. Doesn't stop it form being an absolute dogshit fighting game though.

>KoF last

lmfao

>Tekken losing to both smashes and GG

ahaahahahah

>Melee is DEAD!!1!!!!!

>>376526230
Living in SoCal and being active in Smash, I know that Pokken is beyond dead. The best Pokken players are from my region literally nobody cares.

>>376526230
Pokken isn't a good competitive game. It somehow manages to be more of a party game than Sm4sh/Melee.

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>>376525565
I'm more interested in AnimEVO at this point.

We taking bets on which group shits in the pool this year?

>>376526961
there's only 3 good games in that entire post

>>376527117
no lets take bets on which crowd smells the worst

>>376525565
GG NO BB

>>376526923
Do you have anything to back this up or are you just talking out of your ass?

>>376526846
Eh. The scene is small but it's far from dead. There's a lot of locals and it's at pretty much every FGC major other then evo and gets decent entrant numbers, the online has plenty of players too.

It'll die in a year or so though if nintendo doesn't give it a switch port.

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>>376527415
kek.

>t. pokkenshitter

Game was never meant to be competitive, sorry breh. It's like if you were trying to play competitive Pocket Fighter

>>376525565
>sm4sh has more entrants than melee

Can't wait for EVO to drop the pretenses and stop hosting Melee tourneys.

>>376526613
Melee would be more of an embarrassment than Sm4sh though.

>>376526292
This is only because the only populated new games are the ones Capcom shits out and NRS games for 6 months.

>>376525565
What is actually more surprising is how Marvel it's so dead especially since it was supposed to be the great last "hurray" and with a sequel coming up to make the scene more active.

>>376527826
>a 3 year old game gets more entrants than a 16 year old game
>woooooooooow

Why would they drop it when the game is still pulling 1k+ entrants. Sorry bruh, but Melee is here to stay until the community decides to stop playing it. It pulls too many numbers and numbers = money for the organizers and advertisers.

>>376527129
That is three more then EVO.

>>376528039
>1k+

try 2k+

>>376526961
literally can't tell which games are these

>>376525565
And you don't play either of them. What does it matter?

>>376526961
>vsav
>puyo
>chaos code
>ah3

good shit desu

>>376528160
I wish they would take 1k showers

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>>376528160
oh damn, you're right.

>Evo 2016

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>the garbage that is SFV
>two fucking Smash games

Everything else looks good though.

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>>376528335
Could say that about the entirety of the FGC

>>376527741
>implying competitive Pocket Fighter isn't a legit fighting game

You know nothing

>>376527415
I know there is still a small group of people playing it but honestly it is more akin to Skullgirls where they are trying to poke a dead horse. I'm pretty sure Wednesday Night Fights doesn't even get enough entrants to have tournaments anymore. I was scared that Pokken would beat out Marvel and there wouldn't be enough entrants for a 64 man bracket. At least you can guarantee that Marvel players actually exist.

>>376528247
Guilty Gear Accent Core +R
Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax Ignition
Under Night In-Birth EXE Late
Melty Blood
Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost
Vampire Savior
Nitro Plus Blasters
Chaos Code
Aquapazza
Puyo Puyo Tetris
Arcana Heart 3 Love Max

>>376526961
>+R

That's a shame. +R feels like something they quickly threw together to remind everyone GG was a game that exists before they released Xrd.

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>>376528670
>>376526961
Pretty nice desu

>>376525565
>smash
>smash4
At least we have BB, GG. Shame they took out KI.

>>376528582
It's a legit fighting game in the sense that is has (simple) combos, a health bar, and is 2 player.

That's about it.

>>376526961
>AC+, UNIEL, MBAACC, VSAV, CCNSOC, Puyo
Good shit

>>376526961
No koihime?

>>376525565
>Everyone realizes it's an inferior GG by now.
GG and BB don't play that much like each other, if you play either of them instead of just listening to the OSTs on youtube and dudebro-ing about GG online you'd know that. Valid comment back in 2009 when it first started though, yeah.

Also it had one of the best Top 8s last year and CP is going to be the last installment the game gets for a while so this is more like a send-off than anything else.

>>376528670
I really like competitive UNIEL and Melty Blood, AC+ is also good but it's always the same 4 guys in Grand Finals

>>376528567
but people don't, do they?

>>376525565
>People that don't even like fighting games talking about fighting games

Wouldn't tekken be interesting to new players since you can button mash and still win?

Im going to EVO this year. What can I do to ensure Melee is never played again?

>>376525565
>no KI
Sad to see it go.

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>>376525565
Why is mvc3 so low wtf

>>376529595
Surprised it took that long

>>376529498
Its sad because the developers really seem to give a shit, the amount of polish in that game is crazy. Its a shame they worked on KI because KI has some of the worst mechanics ever and nobody cared about the series. Who knows how well it would have done if it was a brand new series.

>>376529446
Nothing

Unlike everyone on r/kappa, melee players actually go to locals and support their game

until a new smash comes out that melee players actually enjoy as much as melee, it's gonna keep going

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>>376525565
it might be blazblue's final sendoff, hence the sunday thing

but yeah its sad melee is there

>>376529446
Make showering mandatory for participation

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>All this Melee hate
>We're bringing over 2000 people again
>Your new game or whatever you play can't even manage 1000

aaahahahahahaha

>>376528039
>Sorry bruh, but Melee is here to stay until the community decides to stop playing it. It pulls too many numbers and numbers = money for the organizers and advertisers.

This

>>376530468
>bringing over 2K people
>that doesn't care about anything but melee and will actively make the experience worse for everyone else when its not melee

>>376530785
I play KoF and SFV as well, nice try though.

>>376530785
>Will actively make the experience worse
Citation needed.

>>376530842
my b, read that as you claiming I don't play anything else.

Who cares? Most people have a main game and don't bother with other games. Like NRS players.

>>376530785
Delicious FGC tears

>>376530785
>Entirety of FGC shits on Smash games and its players
>Smash players then proceed to do it back

>I-IT'S ONLY OKAY WHEN WE DO IT. F-F-FUCK SMASH :(((((((((

>>376530875
not him but melee was literally removed from evo before due to the playerbase.
honestly smash shouldn't be at evo but wizard wants that money

>>376530875
They smell

>>376528598
It's certainly akin got skullgirls, in that it's a smaller, super passionate group, but it's also MUCH larger then skullgirls by a pretty big factor, there's way more locals and majors/reigonals pokken is at then skullgirls is, but it will def get down to Skullgirls numbers in the next 1-2years unless Nintendo gets off their ass.

> I was scared that Pokken would beat out Marvel and there wouldn't be enough entrants for a 64 man bracket.

Pokken usually gets around 60 entrants or so at smaller majors and around 100 at bigger ones.

>>376527741
Explain why it's uncompetitive then. The only real problems it has are

>Burst mode having light armor is bullshit
>A bit too read reliant

Damage scaling being too severe used to be a problem too but people explored characters more and most have longer, hard to execute combos that have higher damage rewards now. Also, the merit of how balanced it is makes up for the flaws it has, if you ask me

>>376531080
Melee was dropped from evo in 07 because it was still in the dark ages and Brawl was coming out.

>>376526961
>STILL using FB

>>376526961
Puyo should be at main Evo desu

>>376531138
>He's never been to a major before Melee started being included

lmfao. FGC niggas never shower

Speaking of BB, how's the central fiction port to pc? I heard it's a bit of a mess, and revelator runs just fine on my laptop.
I would think that BB would need fewer system resources based on appearances, but I could be very much wrong.

>>376531080
Brawl literally killed Smash for like 2 years. Brawl was such a bad game that disappointed Melee people bailed on the whole scene. I can't blame them, the game that is supposed to be a successor turned out to be 10 steps backwards and Nintendo actively went out of their way to not acknowledge a hugely profitable scene and made a hugely casualized game.

When people came to terms with the fact that Brawl was unplayable at a high level, people started playing Melee again.

>>376531465
I've been to a smash tourney before and boy the place reeked.

>>376531067
I like Melee, but bro the scene is full of people that shove their game so far up their ass that a solid 80% never accept or try any other fighters. Same goes for a lot of Street Fighter guys from what I've seen, but it's not as bad. Everytime the FGC tried to help the Smash community where I am they always just end up being toxic to one another.

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>>376525565
BB is the more popular game overall, japs love blaz and it's much more hype than GG anyway, only shitters without a grasp of either would think it's inferior to GG. Also Evo is a joke now and smash being there at all is an embarrassment so I have no idea why you're even complaining.

>>376525565
>Everyone realizes it's an inferior GG by now.
i too enjoy setplay

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Melee fags live in a bubble. They're fucking awful at every single game including melee. The same 5-6 people have been winning tournaments since 2009, but since the game is easy to learn hard to master, the autistic faggots flock towards that game in droves.

>>376532160
I've been to several. I don't recall any particular smell ever popping up in any of those cases aside from the occasional one fat guy who had that typical sweaty fat guy smell that deodorant seemingly cannot stave off for long.

>>376533094
Oh that smell is horrible

>>376532865
Maybe they just flock to the game because it's fun.

>>376532865
>Melee fags live in a bubble.
Yes. But a very large bubble, I can't blame them. They enjoy smash but there is only one other relevant smash game and it isn't as good.

> They're fucking awful at every single game including melee.
True, they are awful at other games mainly because they don't play them. Its pointless to point it out, CS pros probably aren't too good at Street Fighter but that doesn't make them worse CS players. Regarding the "Gods", I agree, it is a toxic mentality that people have that stop people from getting better. There are so many mediocre players that don't put the effort in to compete at the top level and that makes for boring Melee. I don't want to watch top 32 because it is just the gods and the rest are fluff that will eventually lose to a god anyways.

>>376533251
Lol no. Not him but it's the "my game is unique so it's all I need" syndrome. Melee is fine, but the players really do live in a bubble.

>>376533251
no he's right
there is far less burden of knowledge playing smash than any other fighting game

>>376533629
Why do you care if Melee players only want to play Melee? They're doing what they think is fun.

>REEEE STOP PLAYING GAMES I DON'T LIKE
>PLAY MY GAME INSTEAD!!

>>376526961
>Competitive Puyopuyo Tetris
Oh hey, something worth checking out. Have they said which mode they're using for it, or will it just be Puyo vs. Puyo due to chain setups vs. Tetriminos?

>>376533681
Because there's like 10 attacks or so per character?

>>376533629
What is wrong with that? They have a large community that cares about the game, that consistently puts out content, has a healthy online community, and they organize their own tournaments year round. Why do they need to play other games? To appease you?

>>376526556
McRibs waited for it to pass tr4sh so he could make a twitter post about it being number one.
Also, no official numbers, so highly unreliable.
Also, it's still street fighter: the casual, why wouldn't it be number 1?

>>376533804
there's just less to learn in general
smash is mostly a giant execution test

>Smash 4
Melee is stagnant as hell but Smash 4 was never any good. The only Smash that has any potential to be interesting is Melee doubles.

>>376531532
I think the majority of the issues have been patched out. The sprites look bad if you play above 720p, and I heard something about issues with AMD cards but that there were ways around it if you looked on the steam forums, but I'm not sure. It lacks the arcade lobbies because they didn't want to pay for servers and you can't password rooms like you can in the PS3/4 version. Other than that I think it's fine, but I didn't buy it since I own it on console already. And they're still working on future patches apparently so who knows. Pirate it and try if you're interested.

>>376533804
You have never played smash if you think this is true. 3 tilts, 5 aerials, 3 smash attacks, 4 throws, a jab and whatever jab followups that a character may have, 4 special moves and quite a few miscellaneous things that are fairly universal (air dodge, roll, pummel, ect.)
.

>>376533589
I meant in the sense that your experience with fighting games can often translate to other fighters.
The thing is the same people have been winning because it's profitable for them. nobody but the ''gods'' make any money so the only people you'll see put a massive amount of effort to win over others is them. They've also got a 10+ year headstart on the game lmao.

>>376533789
Last time I saw the game in a competitive setting was when the demo was out and they didn't restrict it to one game mode.
It was the usual case of low tier tetris players thinking they were good but then got dominated by a puyo player who knew what they were doing, and the occasional tetris player who knew how to set up T spins and Perfect Clears and dominated puyo players.

>Everyone realizes it's an inferior GG by now.

Name 3 reasons BB is an inferior GG by mechanics. Good luck

>>376533728
I play Melee you troglodyte, and you're just proving my point. The community is still shit and dismisses any other fighting games cause it's not Melee. Seriously neck yourself.

>>376534098
Any Tekken character has an average of around 90 moves with different properties.

>>376534098
This. A lot of fighting game pros even admit that melee is the most technical

>>376534158
True, I just find it sad that only a few people seem to give a shit about getting on that level. Plup has been putting in work and Wizzrobe has tons of potential as well. But veterans like S2J and Hugs are just Mango's controller jockeys. They are good players but just won't get on his level.

>>376534359
I'm a KoF player currently scratching my head about why the fuck you have a problem with other people having fun. If they are having fun and don't want to play other games, that's their choice to make and it has nothing to do with you.

are there any fighting games even worth playing on PC?

>>376534098
we'll compare this to blazblue for example
every character has 12 regular normals, 3 air normals, varying command normals, specials, supers, and drives

>>376534404
melee is an execution test
that doesnt make it difficult you just have to grind the execution

>>376534626
SFV but only because crossplay. If it doesnt have crossplay don't bother. Fighting games are shit when the server is exclusive to PC.

>>376534404
most technical way to destroy your wrists

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>>376534626
UNIEL. Unless you mean PC exclusive.

>>376534626
All the games on fightcade, Melty Blood, GG Reload, GGXrd Revelator

I believe SFV on PC is a lot better than offline because you can actually force off the function that forces the input lag on you also.

Only real bad parts about Blazblue right now are Active Flow and Exceed Accels. Those mechanics were a mistake.

>>376534171
>and the occasional tetris player who knew how to set up T spins and Perfect Clears and dominated puyo players.
T Spins were the worst thing to ever come to Tetris.

>>376534468
Honestly Wizzy has to be the best example of a new player rising to the top. The thing is he is home-schooled and starting playing at a very young age with 0 responsibilities. He was fucking bred for smash. Plups been playing for 7-8 years but I don't know much about him

>>376534392
You know why people make fun of Tekken players? Because they spend more time looking at frame data for their massive movelists than actually playing the game. At some point it becomes too much, if you want to get good at Tekken you have to put in actual serious study work and that is boring. It is the hardest game to learn for the simple fact that nobody wants to look at a page full of numbers for hours to memorize these things, they want to play the game. There is a reason Americans are doing well in T7 without being able to play it, you can literally sit there and study the game and get good without actually playing.

Can they fucking get rid of melee already? A 15 year old game where the same 3 people win tournaments with one of the most obnoxious fanbases out there. Not to mention it also pushes other games back because they always drag their asses.

>>376534565
I don't, obviously you're taking this in a completely different direction than intended. All I was stating that many Melee players do live in a bubble (in relation to fighting games) and can be quite dismissive and crude to other communities because of it. It's not a one sided thing where the FGC (usually just capcunts) hates on Melee.

>>376534897
What's wrong with AF? It's literally just an invisible chain shift that directly makes the OD system more lucrative which makes individual characters more interesting imo. EA is pretty bad though I do agree. AF EA raw shouldn't do 4200 but I have a feeling that'll go away after the 95% certain post EVO announcement

>>376533789
As far as I know, the official mode for Puyo Puyo Tetris tournaments is Swap mode.
Versus is dumb because it's pretty unbalanced; either the Tetris player completely stops the Puyo player with T-spin spam, or a ~10 chain from the Puyo player will OHKO the Tetris player. Swap evens out the playing field and is overall more interesting I think.

>>376534683
That gentleman said there were 10 moves, the average character has double that. My point wasn't that Smash has comparable movelists to other games. Though I am also in the camp that says that more doesn't equate to better. You can do much more with a limited moveset in Smash than you can in most games. The amount of added variables that you never see in traditional fighting games is what makes it so much better for alot of people. You are free to do what you want with your moveset whereas in most fighting games there is a set and optimal way you can do things. I play SF mostly and I love the structure, but I also like Smash from time to time because it allows for more expressive play.

>>376535219
AF just makes certain characters snowball even harder, and the burst regen is incredibly retarded when I can get an OD combo near the start of the round and by the end of the round my burst is already back. It's too much of a reward for just being aggressive, or by just hitting EA.

I'd rather them improve OD on an individual basis rather than them just adding things onto it that improves characters that already have godlike ODs (Izayoi, Mai) instead of helping those that don't have as good OD.

>>376527875
>>376526613

Smash in general would be embarrassing on live TV, let alone video games in general

t. Smashfag

>>376526480
BECAUSE MUH TRADITION, IT WOULDNT BE EVO WITHOUT MAHVEL ;_;
That's literary the reason.

>>376527875
How?!, Melee is the Quake 3 of videogames

>>376536113
>literary

kek.

Both communities knew the rules.

The game with the highest donations won. Marvel got the highest donations. Blame yourself and the Pokken community for not stepping up enough to take the spot.

>>376527875
No its not, the artstyle alone makes it look much more serious. I'm not worried that people will see Mario fighting Star Fox. I'm worried about people seeing cute little cartoon animals on the stages every game while the commentators are yelling to generate hype for a game that isn't nearly as spectator friendly. Not to mention Smashville's music sounds straight out of a children's cartoon.

>>376535929
Street Fighter and MvC seemed to get much less shit than Melee. Obviously there were vocal people pissed off about it, it made for good memes, but people were appreciative of Street Fighter because they recognize the game.

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>>376525565
>God's Gift just behind Capcom's latest bowel movement and Smash autists
I'm happy with this.

>kappa is STILL mad at SFV

>>376531067
>go into someone else's house
>they tell you to leave their house
>infuriated, you start to shit on their carpet
>when confronted, you say "they were rude to me, so why is it only bad when I'm rude?"

>>376526613
>SFV has no competition right now

And you think Tekken 7 will change that? Street Fighter will continue dominating the fighting game market because it's Street Fighter.

>>376526961
>PuyoPuyo Tetris
>but no Catherine

Bullshit, not gonna watch.

>>376537361
Praise be.

>>376535612
Melee is literally the freeform jazz of fighting games.

>>376539431
Smash of any kind is the Death Grips of music

>>376526292
Gg, bb, tekken and kof are all good, nevermind capcbro, you wouldnt know you all fags only play shit fighter cause everything else is too complicated for your nigger minds

>>376536113
Really viewers and players that would never place if the real pros still cared about the game were the ones who pushed so hard for Marvel

I think all the really good players are just content to play SFV and whatever else while waiting for Infinite

>>376526961
>Puyo Tetris

IT'S LIT SENPAI!

>>376526068
Right? You couldn't pay me to play that in public.

>being embarrassed to play Street Fighter V

What?

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>>376539431
>Melee is literally the freeform jazz of fighting games.

Fucking smashfaggots I swear

>>376534626
Killer Instinct

>>376541512
I wouldn't say its embarassing at all since it's the most accepted game by normalfags. I'd just say it's boring due to it's overly simplistic nature, and frustrating/stressful due to it's randomness. I consider the ESPORTS thuggery pretty embarrassing though.

Anyone else /tourneyfag/ here?

>>376542520
Top 100 here

>>376541686
Except it's true. Other fighting games you memorize combos ahead of time and just confirm for them. Melee combos have to be made up on the fly.

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>Obligatory Fighter V

When will this meme end

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>>376526961
>Puyo Tetris

>>376543351
Capcom has to go bankrupt for normalfags to either leave the FGC or leave their comfort zones, and even then there's a chance that Capcom will just get bought out and keep developing.

>>376543114
Sorta, there's a lot of percent and DI specific stuff that you memorize and react to so you can be a bit more optimal and finish stocks off properly. It helps your play a lot in the long run desu.

>>376543114
conclusive proof that smash causes brain damage

>>376543114
>make combos on the fly
>will he DI right? Then i go right and uair into my combo!
>will he DI left? Then i go left and uair into my combo!

Woah so much mental skill, melee players are so smart

>>376529595
Game is old as fuck, they took too long to port it to current gen. Everybody wants Infinite now.

>>376534392
They are different, Melee is more about movement

>>376533891
You can say the same about fighting games

>>376542669
Demoncrest?

>>376526613
>Fucking 3 hours of Smashville is going to look awful for the normie crowd.
Why do you care what normies think? That's how you got SFV in the first place.

>>376544587
You really can't.
Execution is important in most fighting games but in Smash it is close to 99% of the game.

The really retarded thing is that most of the difficulty in smash execution isn't that it's a difficult series of inputs, it's that the required controller is so shitty that it makes simple inputs stupidly complicated.

Someone made a device to input things easier and everyone playing Smash immediately pushed to have them banned because it would invalidate all the autistic years of hand-ruining practice they do and expose their game as having essentially zero mental component.

Meanwhile people use all kinds of crazy shit in actual fighting games and it barely advantages them if they aren't already amazing players.

is Bloodborne now in EVO?

>>376545863
>Someone made a device to input things easier and everyone playing Smash immediately pushed to have them banned
Not him, but what's wrong with this?

>>376545863
>Execution is important in most fighting games but in Smash it is close to 99% of the game.
No. A lot of people can do amazing combos, but not everyone has a good neutral game

> pushed to have them banned
*regulated*. Without macros and stuff like that

>>Meanwhile people use all kinds of crazy shit in actual fighting games and it barely advantages them if they aren't already amazing players.

Like in Melee. Techskill isn't everything

>>376544484
>also, what percentage are they at?

>>376537886
>MUH SEKRET KLUB
>STOP PLAYING GAMES I DONT LIKE IN MY PRESENCE
>WAAAAAAAAAH :((((

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More excited for BB than anything else, don't enjoy playing GG much, and it was pretty unspectacular last year.

>>376547817
heres hoping to a hype GFs like the last time BB was there

always love comeback/neck to neck stories from losers bracket