im a poorfag, can only afford one. both are souls like games

>>376517869
Nioh no contest

>>376517869

Both are garbage.

Only From Software can make good Souls games, I made the mistake of buying Nioh, don't do the same.

>>376517869
neither, get nioh when its super cheap though

>>376517869
The Surge. Nioh is Weeb Trash

>>376517869
If you have to choose Nioh. It's not a satisfying game though

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>>376518351
>>376518397
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>>376518562
fucking hell you guys are scaring me, is it that bad

The Surge is a genuinely bad game. There are like 2 shills on /v/ that kept making the same thread with the same image, don't fall for that shit.

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>>376517869
NIOH

Surge isnt even out yet, how do you expect us to have a proper reasoned opinion on it contrasted to Nioh thats been out for like 2 months now.

>>376518672
did you already play it ?

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>>376517869
the surge is from the same devs of lords of the zzz...

Persona 5

>>376519108
oh so that must mean they didnt learn and improve anything right?

Nioh

>>376519108
And Witcher 2, 3 was made by the same polacks who did Witcher 1.
Studios improve unless you're Gearbox

>>376519193
This. Nioh was my biggest buyers remorse this year.

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>>376517869

>>376519279
Does this mean Gearbox got worse because opposing force and brother in arms are fucking great.

>>376517869
nioh is good, surge i'll try on sale later or something, and thats only if i hear good things otherwise dl.

>>376518671

It isn't that bad, but is not good at all. The combat is the only interesting part, the rest sucks so hard that it ruins everything.

The bosses are garbage, the level design is garbage, the world design.. oh wait there is non, the items/loot system is dogshit from diablo, the soundtrack is bad, the enemy variety is DOGSHIT, the story is mediocre, the presentation is mediocre.

The only thing it does good is the combat, to a degree, everything else is so much inferior to Soulsborne games.

I got fucked by Lords of the Fallen and Nioh, never again will I buy a Souls-like game that isn't made by From Software. Fuck The Surge and fuck Lords of the Fallen 2.

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The Surge was made by the people who made Lords of the Fallen

Just let that sink in for a moment

Nioh is a better action game than Blood Borne

>>376519206
>>376519108

it is from a part of the devs. Original team made Lords of the Fallen, now they split up and are 2 different developers, one made The Surge, the other is making Lords of the Fallen, fuck them all and their garbage games.

>>376519379
>games that are more than a decade old
they certainly are a massive pile of shit now.

>>376519402
im really impressed by how many people seem to have finished Surge 6 days prior to release.

Nioh is fucking amazing, but it's ps4 only, so buttblasted pctards will shittalk it as much as they can. Get Nioh.

>>376519402
I disagree

Get Nioh, it has the best gameplay out of any "Souls-like", actual Souls games included.

>>376519532
>He doesn't know that games have been on a downward slope since the golden age ended.
>He doesn't know older games are objectively better

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>>376519552
this

>>376519402
>t. guy who got stuck in way of the strong

gid gud cuck

>>376518671
people are memeing you, get nioh, its fucking great

>>376518671
I'm trying to get you to waste your money on an obviously bad game

>>376519402
I had more fun with Nioh than Dark Souls II and III. II was just a mess of ideas with none of it finished and III was just fan wankery callbacks with nothing new except that the enemies behaved like BB, but the player behaved like DS.

BB>DS=DeS>Nioh>DSII>DSIII
>>376517869
So yeah OP, get Nioh, is great.
>>376518671
Are you retarded? Highly praised from Ninja Gaiden devs Nioh or Surge from Lord of the Fallen guys?

>>376519339
>All of these fantastic designs
>The only interactions you have with them are Cutscenes where they sit next to you and say one line after Ieyasu had a 15 minute monologue and then a meaningless fight that's just to see who's stronger with no stakes

Such a waste

>>376519339
Man, japs sure did love spears

>>376519634
>missing the fucking point.
Gearbox was alright then. Brothers In Arms in the snow never. they are fucking horrible now. They got worse.

>>376517869
how about wait a week for release and people actually playing The Surge, then come back and ask the question again.

>>376520184

Probably because they are the superior weapon in warfare.

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>>376519339
the good thing is that you can play as them :)

>>376520134
Is on PS4, which means is 4 at best. Enjoy 20 FPS locked at 30 with 480p.

>>376520184
Bows and Spears were the only weapons jap soldiers used until guns came around.

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>>376520097
>Be American
>Know nothing about Jap history
>game just expects me to know who all these people are and does nothing to introduce me to them.

>>376520184

Fighting with bladed weapons was mostly done with spears, you want as much distance as possible with the guy you're trying to kill, and is trying to kill you.

one of those games is not out

>>376520335
>He didn't read the character pages
But why?

Nioh is fantastic. I'd say the only problems the game has is enemy variety and too much shitty loot.

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>>376519543
FUKU

>>376520310
This isn't mere shitposting.
This is advanced shitposting.

>>376520567
I'm here to play a game anon, not read a book

>>376519206
>still buying city interactive games

You deserve all the disappointment that's coming to you.

>>376520749
It's like not reading item descriptions in Souls games and then complaining that you don't understand anything. It's a part of the game's storytelling.

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>>376517869
>thinking western devs can make a decent souls clone

TOP KEK

I want to K I L L Maria.

>>376520863
but The Surge is by Focus. Deck13 parted from CI after LotF and switched to Focus as publisher.

>>376520887
I don't have to read anything in Dark Souls to get the story. The NPCs talk to me. I don't even get that in Nioh

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>>376517869
>The Surge

aren't these the same devs that made lords of the fallen?

>>376520990
You do realise that there are 2 Marias now? Which one do you want to kill?

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the surge from the creators of Lords of the Residentsleeper

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>>376517869
Nioh you fucking shill as no one cares or knows about the other.

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>>376517869
Its good, its not souls-like like.

>Like Ninja Gaiden?
>Like loot?
>Like good combat?
get it.

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>>376521113
2 Marias? No, there is only one in Nioh.
Unless she turns out to be the same deal as Kelley.

Nioh isn't souls like

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KANCHOOOUUUU!!!

>>376520097
Those are all bosses you faggot.

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>>376520310
Its 60fps you cunt.

>>376521351
There were people talking about BB, so I thought it was sleepy Lady Maria meme time again. Guess it isn't.

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>>376518671
They are shitposting mate.

>>376521568
>>376521586
OP was about Nioh and The Surge, get your pizza cutter edgelord out of here

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>>376521586
> BB fanboy incomming!

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>pcfags actually believe that the surge will be better than nioh, bloodborne or demon's souls

>>376521742
Nobody thinks that

>>376521742
i'm a pc fag but don't like surge..

focus is the king of making shitty games then leaving them to die

I want to cheese the shit out of Lady Maria of the Astral Storehouse!

>>376521341
>Shrine Checkpoints that respawn enemies
>Lose and have to recover XP after dying
>No jumping
>Stamina based combat and defense

I agree that it's very different but saying it's completely unlike Souls and just Ninja Gaiden with loot is dumb.

>>376521443
Yes and most of them have no plot relevancy besides serving the guy who gives you quests and want to fight you just to see who's stronger with no stakes attached.

>>376517869
neither, souls games are fucking SHIT.

Bloodborne is the worst one.

>>376521742
I have not seen one person suggest such a thing. In fact you're the first person I've seen even mention the game on 4chan. Everyone I know thinks it looks shit, except one guy who is unanimously agreed outside of him to have the worst taste ever.

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>>376522143

DSII is the worst one.

>>376522293
Haven't played it, Bloodborne was so shit I never want to touch the series again.

>>376519402
I'll agree that the level design isn't on par with souls games but the rest of your post is absolute dogshit. It's a slightly different take on that "genre" and it does it well, in some ways much better than souls did even at its best. But in many ways they're not exactly comparable

>>376517869

Nioh if you want a game with combat systems far surpassing literally anything Fromsoft has ever produced. Just don't expect the same kind of great level design or enemy variety as a Souls game.

The Surge if you want pure hot trash that apes Souls combat (poorly) and does nothing new or interesting.

>>376522410
ur gay

>>376522220
Jumping was a pretty big part of ninja gaiden and jumping in souls was completely out of combat and rarely used except for hidden areas.

>>376522220
u wot?

Air combos are a huge part of real action games like NG and DmC

>>376517869
If you're a poorfag you should be buying games on sales only.

kill yourselves PC cucks

>>376517869
Get Nioh. Its a holy combination of Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls, and Diablo. To even try and compare it with the Surge is blasphemy.