How come Lovecraft have left such a big impact in the games industry?

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>one of the most prolific and influential horror/sci-fi writers of all time
>being incredulous he left an impact on any medium

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>>376427579
nothing personal kid

>>376428062
There's prolific and influential crime novel authors but /v/ won't reach for their dicks if they were namedropped in the IGN review.

I wish realists left some kind of impact on video games.

>>376428260
Eh, maybe for the best until Persona 5 dies down. Lupin III could've easily gone the way of Jojo.

>>376427579
Taking on the impossible and unknowable is pretty sick nasty in a video game.

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*fucks up your work*

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Because his style is a blend of dreams, tradition, mythologies, and the unknown. It has a sort of universal appeal. It's old, but can be new at the same time, like all of the greatest things.

>>376428539
>Because his style is a blend of dreams, tradition, mythologies, and the unknown
And lots and lots of racism

Reminder that Lovecraft DESPISED all women.

>>376428673
>muh racism

who gives a shit

Is there a walking simulator game that has GOOD writing and plot doesn't revolve around ghosts, aliens, or other supernatural crap?

>>376428749
Smart man lol.

>>376428783
Apparently you do.

>>376428864
Call of Cthulhu dark corners of the earth

Reminder that the Cthulu mythos was never officially sanctioned by Lovecraft, he just wrote the one poem.

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>>376428673
Racism is part of tradition, for better or for worse.

>>376428917
>lol
Shut the fuck up

>>376428749
Also one of his early poems was titled “On the Creation of Niggers”

Ok so i want to start reading his works, where should i start?

>>376428864
Well, I enjoyed Vanishing of Ethan Carter but that has supernatural crap except not as much as the game lets on

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>>376427579
>lovecraft was so racist that he makes /pol/ look well behaved
>yet liberals have the BIGGEST hard-on for him.
Can anyone explain this to me? Is it really this simple and liberals dont even read the shit they claim to like and go
>chutulu so randomcakes xDDD
without having even read a single thing lovecraft wrote?

>>376428970
I don't. I don't care about the author's personal views when I read a piece of fiction, especially when he wrote it about a century ago

>>376428997
Roasite detected, lol.

>>376428864
SOMA is about artificial intelligence and robots and shit.

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>>376428993
He truly is a GOAT-tier writer. What a beast.

>>376429046
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

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Is there any truly grimdark lovecraftian game? I see a fuckton of games doing some references here and there, maybe taking some elements, but I still have to discover a game set in the lovecraftian universe, or at least based on that.

>>376428993
>>376428673
Didn't he regret being so racist later in life? Maybe I just dreamed of it

>>376429187
I mean something realistic, non-fictitious.

gary gygax had a bigger influence than both of them combined

>>376429094
>yet liberals have the BIGGEST hard-on for him.

They don't. The World Fantasy Awards, who used to reward writers with a statue of HP Lovecraft, are currently choosing a design which suits their politics. Bunch of wankers

>>376429094
Same reason they all claim to love Tolkien but only ever watched the LoTR-Hobbit movies. It's a cool thing to tell others that you like

>>376428523

On the one hand, I am immensely grateful that Derleth preserved Lovecraft's works for later generations.

On the other hand, fuck him for adding all that elemental and Christian bullshit to the wider mythos.

>>376429094
Or maybe they're capable of seperating an artist's polticial views from his work, unlike /pol/.

>>376429304
He married a Jewess and chilled out a little bit, but not really.

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> Make a game based on Lovecraft mythology.
> Fill it with niggers.

Holy shit, talk about spitting on the guy's grave.

>>376429304
He was so racist that other racists of his time would go "dude, chill" at him, so I doubt it

>>376429304

He seemed like it came to regret using his creative works as a vehicle to expound on his more racist views (they became less prevalent, or at least less crude in his works over time), but I don't think he ever really renounced them.

>>376428673
>>376428749
Literally /ourguy/

>>376429094
>He wrote fantastic tales of suspense and terror about the horrors lurking beyond our worldviews, created beings so terrible human minds would fail to comprehend and crumble at the thought and almost every modern horror writer either pays homage or rips huge chunks from his works
>Oh but he hated foreigners, Jews and women so let's erase him and his accomplishments because it's like ugh

>>376429416
Yeah. He also established the Pantheon. Overall I think he hasn't done harm to Lovecraft's work, he expanded it as he was trying to understand it

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>>376429085
-The Complete Fiction of H. P. Lovecraft.
-I Am Providence: The Life and Times of H. P. Lovecraft, Volume 1/2 (for memes)

>>376429346
Greenwood and Forgotten Realms were way more influential than Greyhawk

>>376427579
I heard he was rasict as fuck

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>there will never be a Junji Ito inspired horror game where you squeeze your grease on your opponents

>>376429094
You can appreciate the other incredibly interesting themes of his work without agreeing that everyone who isn't English is inferior. Lovecraft was so racist that other white people weren't white enough for him.
It's possible to appreciate parts of work while reviling other pieces of it. Him being a giant racist doesn't make some of the ideas he presented in his fiction less interesting to discuss.

>>376428864
Does LA Noire count as a walking simulator?

Didn't they rename or get rid of some Lovecraft reward for fiction because of his racism?

>>376429903
Doesn't matter, played it and loved it, except the ending.

>>376429881
I like his racism.
Its the best stuff he wrote.

Every word is true.

>>376427579
Overrated racist fuck.

>>376428864
Stanley Parable, if you don't count it as "supernatural".

>>376429304
According to his ex-wife he used to go insane with rage over ethnic whites in New York so nah not really senpai

Cat fags tend to stick together and circle jerk.

>>376428062
>prolific and influential
Only because those that followed him and wrote more interesting works had their storeis and creations credited to him. A lot of "lovecroftian" works are purely those who followed him and had nothing to do with his works other than other-worldly fiction which he helped popularise at best.

His publicist deserves a place in a marketing hall of fame.

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>>376427579
Giant tentacle monsters are cool.

Reynard Kipling was racist, too, but a different type of racist. I'm sure most of the best authors from the last couple of centuries were racist, with the sole exception of Tolkien.

>>376430058
>racism
>bad
lol

>>376429881
I think his best ideas came from his racist stuff. The ideas of creatures coming from the ocean and invading the country/world you live in is deeply rooted in fear of foreigners but it's also a primal fear, a fear of others who aren't like you

>>376429991

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Fantasy_Award#H._P._Lovecraft_bust

>>376428749
Reminder that he married a jewess, which created interesting situations.
>Lovecraft would go on his usual rant on how Jews are ruining the world
>Wife would just go, "Hey, remember who you married, honey?"
>He'd just cough and change the subject.
Cutest shit. Kinda sad that they'd live in poverty and divorce later

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Post novels you want to see adapted into vidya.

>mfw he was racist against non-Anglos
literally /myguy/

>ethnic whites
>belonging in America

>>376430228
Your autistic head cannon is cringe-worthy at best.

>>376427579
Assuming you don't class Richard Stallman as a writer, and only consider by works of fiction written, and don't consider works of fiction written specifically -for- the game in question (at which point fuck Knaak and fuck Metzen, but they did have an effect)
And also assuming you don't consider historical texts such as the Bible, which have influenced many games, and only consider works with a definite author,
then Lovecraft is a decent contender, but Tolkien ends up getting his hands on far more because goddamn there's elves and orcs everywhere.

>>376430226
>shits on Indians
>Indian defends him later
Nice, glad to see not everyone is eternally butthurt

>>376430007
I'm sad to hear you say that.

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Real talk here. Anyone seen this dude and Gabe Newell in the same room together?

>>376429881
He was right about other peoples being inferior to the Anglos though

>>376427579
well the guy perfected the concept of scary thing from who know where that even today its wrongly used

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>>376430206
I think the way it's depicted is indeed very interesting. Having fear of the unknown be something so closely related to us creates an interesting talking point for multiple different reasons, even if I think the conclusions he drew are reprehensible.

Why are all the best writers openly racist and sexist
hmmmmm.. really makes you think

>>376430743
no you're not. fuck you and your dishonesty.

>>376429094
because liberals only like things that make them look cool and hip or to be part of a group since they need to be part of one or they die, they don't actually like them.
kind of like most people who say they like video games :^)

>>376431081
maybe he isn't but I am

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>>376430940
I see it as wanting to preserve differences. It's not natural for everything to be the same. It's kind of like introducing hundreds of fire ants into a leaf-cutter ant colony. Things just aren't gonna mesh, no matter how hard you try.

>>376430968
>best writers
>Lovecraft
Funny

>>376429878
Good. I like games that have endings

>>376428260
There's having an affect on storytelling, a thing people can't actually see, then having unique and interesting monsters that the average person can't match even today.

>>376431193
>2017
>turn public toilets into food stands
>shit on the streets

>>376430448
There's reports of shit like that happening. But I don't think it's as cute/romantic as he's imagining.
But Lovecraft and Greene's relationship is this big weird thing anyway, dude never kissed her, never said he loved her (somehow Sonia describes him as an excellent lover), she wasn't really interested in him but admired his writing. And both got married, maybe love between weirdoes really is blind and all that faggotry.

I dunno. I'm not a weird Lovecraftnut, but it's a shame that the letters betweem them are lost. There was some interesting stuff there.

>>376427579
He was a racist piece of shit, fuck him

>>376431461
Back to neofag

>>376428673
>implying that's a bad thing

>>376429289
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth

>>376429289
Bloodborne.

>>376428673
>If someone's views don't perfectly align with my own, then their works are shit

lol k

P.S. Shoot Dr. Allen on sight and dissolve his body in acid. Don't burn it.

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>>376429094
>>yet liberals have the BIGGEST hard-on for him.

Have you been asleep the last 10 years?

>>376428262
Me too. Though I don't know exactly how or what influence I'd want to see from realist authors.

Funnily, one of my faves is Joseph Conrad, and the closest thing we get to a Conrad game is also a Lovecraft game.

>>376432113
Well, there's Spec Ops and Far Cry 2.

>>376428993
>>376429094

How can one man be so BASED?

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he did a good job scratching a horror itch early, after which his name and maybe 2 or 3 of his works were memed to death, now his staying power comes from all the fucking money his name and creations nets

>>376427579
A lot of gamers are edgelords and lovecraft is like the king edgelord

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get fucked gooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqkMm7CqnQg

There's something about a well spoken, open racist that I find admirable, even if I don't agree on all the points

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>>376432851
>king edgelord

There are far edgier authors out there, senpai.

>>376427579
The dankest shit that his gods are the gods of Conan's world as well, since Howard and him were big pen pals.

Also, Conan never gets enough recognition, since its essentially one of the best world building stories that you can choose from.

>>376433025
>read hellbound heart after seeing hellraiser
>was surprised at how reasonable cenobites were

they even warned frank he wasn't gonna like it if he agreed

>>376429289
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem is lovecraft in everything but name.

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>>376427579

>>376433210
Read his sequel, the Scarlet Gospels, where he has Pinhead rape a blind, crippled old black lady because she talked smack to him and then he goes and has a big DBZ fight against Satan in hell.

Clive....lost his touch.

>>376429317
>artificial intelligence
>fictitious
>asteroid impact wiping out most terrestrial life on the planet
>fictitious

Are you serious?

>>376432485
That's a good point. I never beat FC2...I remember that the Jackal's tapes gave me chills, though. At the time I hadn't read Heart of Darkness, which also gave me chills.

What I really liked about FC2 was the sort of moral detachment from the surroundings. The protagonist barely exists there, and the only thing that lets you know you're human is that you had to rely on your buddies, whose pasts and stories were out of your pay grade. That's how I want to feel when I explore a land that's well beyond law.

I'm not feeling this in FC4; I wish the protagonist was a nobody and that the bad guy and his gang was more ambiguous.

>>376428260
Nigga, bring on the Donald Westlake games!

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>>376432809
Get this gay shit out of my fandom.

>>376433353
sounds like something you need to be drunk or high for

>>376433443
OVER THE LINE, HITLER

>>376433340
>The developer of this game is a bigot! FIRE HIM!
This is your mindset. Judge his work on it's merit not on him being a pretentious cunt.

>>376433369
he probably means gta style boring contemporary shit you can see when you look outside. boring normal shit for boring normies.

>>376428539
Is that some Lovecraft loli?

>>376433340
>>376433443
>>376433563
>>376433701
I don't mind his racist stuff, but him going maximum fedora over cats versus dogs is downright insufferable.

>>376432962
You never read the Great Gatsby? High society and intellectuals were very openly racist up until the end of the first world war.

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>>376433638
>quote about how Lovecraft saw certain animals
>sperg out about muh racism
At the end of the day what DID anon mean by this?

>>376433870
Such a nice thing that we left all that behind. Just had to make non-whites the majority :) but hey no racism anymore

>>376428260
Probably because making a fun whodunnit in a videogame is profoundly difficult, and arguably no one has done it yet.

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>>376433701
>>376433563
>>376433443
>>376433340
>shitting on best pet

>>376433340
>>376433443
>>376433563
>>376433701
Was it autism?

>>376433661
Smart man.

>>376429094
I've read or listened to his every single work. I absolutely love how well he presents the theme of something alien and incomprehensible invading their peaceful, ordered lives. Only someone who really despised and feared those unlike him could portray it with such lucidity and almost palpable revulsion. If anything, his works only benefited from him being as he was. That and

They took Niggerman from me and won't let me see him!

>>376433805
But he's completely right. Dogs don't "love" you. They need to have a leader and be part of a pack because that's how they evolved idiot.

The interesting thing about Lovecraft is that he wasn't a particularly stellar writer. His prose could sometimes be obtuse and difficult to navigate, and he couldn't write dialogue for shit. But you don't care when reading him because the ideas and the world he paints are so damn good that they drag you in. Pickman's Model, for example, has an ending you can see from a mile away, yet it's still really fucking scary.

>>376434145
Dogs have proven to feel empathy and "alpha males" are a disproven concept.

>>376433805
Just makes him /ourguy/ even more, he'd fit in any of the pet threads that occasionally pop up here just fine.

>>376433829
This image cracks me up every time I see it.

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>>376434145

>>376433805

Racism is literally the same.

Pretty much anybody from the past was pretty racist, and any number of other -ists

You know, people who are alive today are a package deal. They're still here and we have to deal with their whole shit. But with the dead, we can -- and must -- pick them apart. We have to see what belongs dead, with them, and what we carry forward. If we wiped history and culture of all the people who harbored awful ideas, we'd be left with only babies

Lovecraft was shithead and an asshole. Lucky for us, he's dead, and his stories are completely amoral and fantastic. So whatever. Still, maybe a little less hero worship going forward. He wasn't one of those.

>>376433805
part of his charm.

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>>376427579
He created a subgenre of horror that can fit in many places. Cosmic horror can be used effectively in just about any setting. (Darkest Dungeon, Event Horizon, The Secret World, Bloodborne, World of Warcraft, Amnesia TDD, The Mist, etc.) He wrote a whole lot of works and had a very creative mind when it came to monsters and their descriptions. Go on wikipedia and find the list of old gods in the lovecraft universe and read about them. While doing that, google the names of each of them and look at all the art people have created from his descriptions. He paved the way for some very interesting monster design and an interesting approach to horror.

>>376434907
He was also a neet and lived and complained about his poverty, while doing nothing to try and work himself out of his hole.

He also died super fucking hard.

>>376435251
To be fair, he was an artist

And, you might have noticed, a weirdo. We're all glad he was these things

>>376434907
And some day when we imagine up new standards that you don't meet, you'll be the monster of the past we all spit on.
Such progress.

>>376436430
A Klee painting named Angelus Novus shows an angel looking as though he is about to move away from something he is fixedly contemplating. His eyes are staring, his mouth is open, his wings are spread. This is how one pictures the angel of history. His face is turned toward the past. Where we perceive a chain of events, he sees one single catastrophe which keeps piling wreckage upon wreckage and hurls it in front of his feet. The angel would like to stay, awaken the dead, and make whole what has been smashed. But a storm is blowing from Paradise; it has got caught in his wings with such violence that the angel can no longer close them. The storm irresistibly propels him into the future to which his back is turned, while the pile of debris before him grows skyward. This storm is what we call progress.

>>376430907
dude blast from the past

>>376436690
You just made all that shit up. That painting is garbage.

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>>376437145

>>376433443
>catfag
Complete beta

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>>376437280
B-Brother?

>>376437280
Exactly. It's like a fucking cave painting. Get this post-post-modernist, nihilist shit out of here.

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>>376427579
Not for long, gamers. Your shit god's altar is about to be toppled.

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>>376437391
>>376437280
UNITED AT LAST

While it's true he had a massive impact on pop culture, it wasn't a direct one. Lovecraft's work is almost nothing like the shit you'll find in your average Lovecraftian video game. All the cliches like madness and suicide and giant monster men actually only appear a handful of times throughout the hundreds of stories he wrote. Lovecraft's greatest influence was inspiring a generation of younger writers who took after him through direct correspondence. Most notably was August Derleth, who really watered down the whole mythos and turned it into good vs evil men vs monsters. It's just an extended effect of that trickling down of his ideas that we see everywhere today. It's one of those kitschy themes that gets draped over some crappy indie game to stand out, like what happened to zombies only on a smaller scale because zombie AI is braindead.

Lovecraft was probly just jaded because he saw a couple niggers with hot white women and rationalized that he himself must not be the problem. Just becuase someone has a good imagination and is successful writing novels doesn't make them smart or an authority on any subject in particular, except maybe writing novels.

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>>376430364

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Since this is a Lovecraft/book thread.

Why the fuck has no one attempted to do an actual Eternal Champion based franchise?
Not Chaos and all the shit that Warhammer and DnD took from Moorcock, i'm talking full on Corum or Hawkmoon game.

Or dare i say it, Elric of Melnibone.
Oswald Bastable is also a good choice. Or just Dancers at the End of Time point and click.

You would buy this stuff and love it and don't you deny it.

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>>376430364
Eternal Champion mythos.

Specifically Elric.
Limitless potential.

>>376428864
Gone Home

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>>376427579
Why does he looks like James from Funhaus?

speaking of horror, anyone got a link to those creepy emergency broadcast videos on youtube, theres a channel with a bunch of em but im not sure thats it

>>376429421
That's kinda retarded, though. As if there was no influence from one on the other. Case in point Shadow Over Innsmouth.
It's more like you can still appreciate a work of literature or whatever despite it denouncing "niggers", maybe it's got good prose or something.

>>376438868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0I-iA5lJU

>>376439564
thanks bud, may God bless you and keep you in his graces now and forever, in His holy name we pray, Amen.

>>376430175
Linguists who has more than 2-3 diverse languages can't really be racist.
They seem to have too much fun imitating good oral speech traditions.

>>376439760
>>376439564


Not related but this is pretty good

https://youtu.be/ph_sR51KBi8

>>376430175
Tolkien was plenty racist
no blacks exist in lotr,
orks were the only beings that were proported to have black skin.

>>376428749
He also was mortally afraid of penguins, which puts the descriptions of elder things in a new light

>>376440779
the actual website is 100x better than any of these fucking voiced videos
it doesn't work when it's not presented like an actual file for the love of fuck why don't these retards understand

>>376430206
Most of the time the those who worshipped and tried to summon the old gods were blacks or Indians or some other minority group
This was deeply rooted in his racism and fear of other cultures. His writing would of lacked many of its popular elements if he were not so racist

What did ppl think of eldritch by the way? I thought it was short and sweet

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>>376441031
Nature is scary

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>>376427579
Turn off your phone's auto correct and then spell out your sentences correctly asshole.

>>376427579
Lovecraft and Tolkien pretty much defined 20th century fantasy fiction all by themselves. And video games draw most of their content from works that were either influenced by those two writers or Star Wars.

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>>376430364

>>376441130

Meh, I've seen both this one is good. PLus it's not like 2399 uses the format in a clever way anyway.

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Lovecraft's influence can be felt to this day. Dude's a pretty great writer.

>>376431193
Indian society really is a goddamn fucking piece of shit. But only a complete ignoramus would think that this is something biological or genetic rather than cultural.

>>376434031
la noire

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>>376441736
>the worth of a culture isn't determined by the genetics of people that consitute and perpetuate it
>muh social determinism

>>376434113
No, it was just severe fedora-tipping of a vergin of below-average intelligence and accomplishments.

>>376429421
>b-but muh pol obsession
Explain this person who is against racism, then. >>376428673

Also
>trying to make your dying board relevant
Fuck off back to pol.

>>376434113
He just has good taste

>>376430226
retarded decision

>>376441736
EVERYTHING is genetics. You are LITERALLY NOTHING BUT DNA.

>>376441824
LA noire still does far too much of the deductive work for the player.
The best detective movies/books keep the deductions of the detective/MC obscure until the end of the film, and the reader/watcher is left to figure things out for himself.
In LA Noire, you more or less always know what information is relevant and what is not because of your handy little book.
Even if you pay almost no attention at all, the game will still do most of the work for you.

>>376429304
Not really, but he probably bitched about other races less when he moved back to Providence and didn't have to live in fear of them anymore.

>>376427579
Who has a bigger indirect impact on games, Lovecraft or James Cameron?

>>376427579
probably because he had a cat named niggerman. some claim that niggerman was actually the genius behind Lovecraft, ghost writing the majority of his stories.

>>376428673
He's was also autistic... Hmmm really makes you think

>>376442403
>mfw I can't tell if you're joking or not because there probably are dense enough idiots out there who would actually believe something like that
>mfw I have no face

Clark Ashton Smith is arguably a better and more interesting writer than Lovecraft. His Zothique stories are great. It's a wonder that no one is influence by him.

>>376442358
INdirect?

Lovecraft BY FAR. There's no comparison.

>>376441031
Some penguin species shocked scientists to the point of hiding the fact that they regularly engage in rape, pedophilia, and necrophilia.

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Remember when Quake 1 was influenced by lovecraft?

today quake is about shooting punk skaters on Inca ruins

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Why do girls pretend to enjoy Lovecraft?

>>376442806
Because it's edgy and punk

>>376437772
I hope she gets raped to death

>>376442806
it's hip and edgy and that's enough for them

>>376442145

Can confirm. Have identical twin. He's the exact same person as me. We have no differences in any way, have the exact same opinions on everything, never disagree and never, ever entertain thoughts of being say.. two people with the same DNA rather than photocopies of one another.

>>376443242
>implying twins have the exact same DNA
take a genetics class sometime....kid....

>>376429304
I think his opinion of race changed abit when he started conversing with a nig who was one of his biggest fan.Even came to visit the boy which he was surpised that some black kid not only understood but liked his writing. I can't remember the kid to save my life.But I remember that he had fun with the lad

>>376437772
>We're so much better than Lovecraft that racist
>Talentless hacks who lack the creativity to create their own material and just rip off the work of an actually original writer in order to virtue signal

lol

>>376441130
>the actual website is 100x better than any of these fucking voiced videos

nah that shits played out homie, once it got big and everybody on the internet had their oc scp i lost interest

>>376443242
Geneticists even agree with this. Identical twins consistently have virtually identical behaviors.

>>376441736
He lived in a different time period, you moron. Most people were racist back then.

>>376443242
if you tickle his pickle is that just jacking off and not gay

All this thread does is prove how autistic people were back in those days.

>>376443440

You're an idiot.

Monozygotic twins are twins whom originated from the same egg. It was fertilized, split and then developed into two seperate offspring with identical DNA.

You're thinking of dizygotic twins, which are when two eggs are released instead of one and both fertilized.

You're a fucking idiot. Maybe get a refund for that genetics class you *totally* took, kid.

>>376444159
>believing the media
>thinking the past was bad

>>376429094
whomst'd've

>>376444205
>denying science

>>376444205
>implying the DNA isn't mutated
Psh....I'll go easy on you this time...kid...

>>376444571

Its possible for some errors to occur in the copying, but they aren't guaranteed. And what woudl that even be, 0.000000001% of the DNA? Less? Some big fucking personality differences in that one Cytosine molecule.

>>376444483

> Looking this fucking stupid on Korean Internet Board

I hope for your parent's sake you did well in sports at least, because you definitely didnt leave school with people praising you academically.

>>376431878
>>376429113
The racism thing isn't about his personal views removed from his writing, it's about how his personal views influenced his writing by peppering it with racist sentiments you fucking retards.
If you're going to be edgy for the sake of it at least know what you're talking about.

In my opinion, the personal views of the author outside of what is written aren't really relevant to how good the writing is, but Lovecraft's racism was inextricably woven into his writing, and so it becomes a thing to discuss when talking about his writing.

>>376427579
When people talk about Lovecraft, they talk about the Mythos ring.

>>376443242
If you fuck a twin girl the other one gets orgasmized at the same time?? Any experiences fucking twin sisters?

>>376444393
>no anime titties
The past is a fucking trash period of human history, if you ask me.

>>376444940
I think that his uniquely extreme racism produced works that have basically brought to life a perspective that many people don't have in an alien and novel way. It also stems from a more primal feeling as well of fear of the unknown. That's what makes his racism laced writings interesting. It explores a feeling which despite being influenced by a terrible ideology didn't actually focus on the specifics of that ideology.

>>376444802
you're just digging yourself deeper

YOU ARE LITERALLY NOTHING BUT DNA

THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE

>>376434145
You do realize that in nature wolf packs are family units, and the wholealpha/beta thing is just prison rules?

>>376445260
I mean, that's a fair opinion. His views on race definitely impacted how he described the horrors he wrote of.

>>376430103
His best publicist was Stephen King actually. King constantly cites Lovecraft as one of his main influences. Lovecraft's writting didn't help him, but his ideas were revolutionary in a primarily Abrahamic society.

>>376445420
Nurture >>> Nature.

>>376445582
what part of "you are literally nothing but dna" do you not understand?

Tolkien Wanking is why I can't get into WRPGs outside of Fallout, and even then I hate Bethesda Fallout.

>>376445909
Nurture >>>>>> Nature

>>376445909
DNA doesn't decide your beliefs and politics, it decides your emotions and intelligence. Humans are one of the most nurture based species on the planet.

>>376446129
>denying science

What games did Lovecraft even inspire? Bloodborne, and the much superior game Dark Corners of the Earth. Maybe Amnesia. What else?

>>376429624
you just described liberals perfectly

>be brendan eich
>create javascript
>create mozilla
>voted against gay marriage
>fired from his position as ceo by the liberals he employed because of it

>>376429094
nothing says historical accuracy like quotes on a picture.

>>376446179
>denying science

>>376446185
Do you not understand what k-selected species are?

>>376445909
Obviously genetics are extremely important, but no scientists in the world are denying the importance of the environement on behaviors.

>>376441620
>>376443748
>I need someone to whisper the story in my ear because I can't possibly imagine a world where I have to read and not be hearing some gay cunt 24/7
'ddit

>>376446186
that's all of them

>>376428673

>And lots and lots of racism

not really, just your average 1920s amount of racism.

>>376428673

>abloo bloo bloo

he lived in another time you fucking faggot, Van Gogh had to commit sudoku because of his sexual deviancy yet nobody fucking cares.

>>376446185
>>376446267
Nurture >>>>>>>>>>>> Nature

>>376446280
He's obviously fucking around, serious responses are wasted effort.

>>376446185
Not that guy, but it has been proven that even in animals the influence of nurture can overcome the influence of nature. Like introducing the use of tools into certain species and then watching them segregate themselves based on it.

>>376446186
every fucking horror game ever and nearly every fantasy game

whether directly or indirectly

>>376446186
if it has supernatural elements then lovecraft was likely an indirect influence

so most games

>>376427579
How I get into Lovecraft?

>>376442145
Go play some MGS1.

>>376435247
Basically, yes. You also have to understand that its really only the Cthulhu mythos that have made an impact. His other periods - the dream cycle stuff for example - is basically unknown. To put it another way, its really Cthulhu that made an impact, and Lovecraft's original writing is much less important than the general cultural phenomenon around the the ideas of the old gods, etc.

>>376446502
>>376446595
Edgar Allen Poe did supernatural horror WAY before Lovecraft retards.

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>>376446502
>>376446595

>>376433701
I understand the nigger hate but DOG hate. That's just too much. Dogs are the purest animals

>>376445909

The part where my identical twin, who's DNA is identical to mine completely because we came from the same fertilized egg, isn't an exact duplicate of me.

Fuck, he doesn't even vote the same way as me.

>dude genetics lmao don't you know the universe is determinist because you know that makes sense in my mind

>>376446728
>I am gay, woe is me
>Better

top kek

>>376442806
Why do you pretend?

>>376446404
>denying science

your kind has no place in society

in the long run SCIENCE. ALWAYS. WINS.

history has already proven you wrong and will continue to do so forever

>>376441736

The whole theory of the Indo-Aryans wiping out the Dravidian Mohenjo-Daro civilization has been proven false. Mohenjo-Daro fell centuries before the Indo-Aryans arrived so at best the Indo-Aryans were dealing with successor rump states.

The pre-Indo-Aryans also had indoor plumbing toiletries and sewage in 2000 BC.

>>376446857
>Implying Lovecraft wasn't the mopiest, most bitter self-hating piece of shit to ever exist

>>376446781
dogs eat faeces, man.

>>376446327
>"environment" can reprogram dna

>>376446614

Read his stories. They are short, so it should be pretty fast to get into his work.

>>376429421
lmao good one anon.

>>376446614
Is very difficult:

>1 - Go to the bookstore
>2 - Ask for Lovecraft and buy his books
>3 - This is the most difficult part, you have to READ the books
>4 - ????
>5 - Profit

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>>376447130
>>376447117
>>376446832
>>376446826
>human behavior is like magic man my liberal arts professor said so besides science was invented by like old white dudes so that means it's like not real man

>>376434031
>>376428260
>>376433461
can you guys name drop some more patrician whodunit shit?

i love it

>>376447387
Don't quote me again degenerate, I'm not even part of your autismfest argument.

>>376447306
>buy
Just go to the library, nigga.

>>376447306
My bookstore got replaced by Victoria Secret store, before the store got closed I used to hang out there when I quit video games now I spend time at gym now

>>376447387
>being a genetic shitposter

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>this thread
It sure shit the bed real fast

>>376427579

Same reason Edison beat out Tesla

(((Them)))

>>376447662
Is that what they're calling Australians these days?

>>376428749

dam son, I'd buy him a beer.

>>376437772
>they'll remember us, damn it. Better than they'll remember him.
Eighty years after his death, people are still talking about Lovecraft, and you're busy writing Lovecraft fanfiction. Eighty years from now, people will still be talking about Lovecraft, and nobody will be talking about you.

>some legacies deserve to be shat on, we toppled your little trash god from his pedestal
Kek, you're not gonna topple him from his pedestal by writing fanfiction.
Do you think you are the first people to write queer and PoC stories based on Lovecraft? People have done that before, right? And still, even YOU are not talking about them: eighty years later, you're still talking about Lovecraft, while the shitty fanfiction you're pushing is dead on arrival.
Don't kid yourself: you're not shitting on anyone's legacy, you're just shit.

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>>376430228

He was miserable while married to her in living in New York, which he utterly despised.

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LOCHVECRAITUX you revealed secrets righfully hidden for mortals, your punishment awaits you down in the catacombs of sacred R'lyeh.

>>376448031

Edison really wasn't that bad. His true character was more than the story about him being an asshole to Tesla.

>>376429474
>they run out money
>released a buggy pile of shit

Karma got them.

>>376428749
he truly was a frog

>>376446826
I'm the one arguing complete genetic determinism, but epigenetic factors are exremely important. Identical twins have an identical genetic base, but the gene expression is not identical.

>>376447221
It can change gene expression, which is pretty important.

>>376451938
>believing in "magic"

>>376439564
Well that was quite the roller coaster.
It's a hoax
It's not a hoax

>>376447221

There have been tests on rat where their offsprings avoid the same "bad smell" (don't remember correctly) even without any previous contact to it. It's possible, that the negative encounter somehow triggered a system in the parent rats, and programmed the behaviour to their children.

I guess you meant that environment can't reprogram the current DNA. However, if you allow nitpicking, something like radiation can change the DNA. Early GMO was literally radiating plants and hoping for good mutations.

>>376445543
>but his ideas were revolutionary in a primarily Abrahamic society.
This. Lovecraft was one of those people who, despite all the influences he had from others, created a new genre for other people to play around in. That tends to have a lasting impact.

>>376446614
http://www.hplovecraft.com/

And you can find audiobooks of his stuff on youtube ez pz

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>>376429094
>that poem
Accurate as fuck

Would Lovecraft have liked video games? What video games would he have liked?

Talk about video games

>>376430103
Considering when he wrote it wasn't Bernays, was it?

>>376444940
>Lovecraft
>racism

But racism indeed help a lot to his work
Lovecraftian horror is based in be afraid to the unknown. Other races and cultures have a shock on people who is not used to them.

Dont get me wrong, I understand the whole issue, but racism helped to his work as part of the whole concept of "fear the unknown"

>>376442806
Is that the cow-titted loli from Dark Matter?

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>>376427579
every presentation of a vampire draws from Bram Stoker.
every presentation of a zombie draws from John Russo and George Romero. Yeah, a script-writer is still a writer.

which are more common in video games - vampires and zombies, or cthlulus? Because don't pretend you mean anything substantial from his works, you just mean "eldritch abominations". That's literally all the influence he's had, contributed some monster designs that a handful of games have used alongside hundreds of other monster designs from hundreds of other sources.

Also, you can't pretend that manga authors haven't influenced Japanese games. Those cliches and stuff didn't originate in Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

>>376434268
nah, he's just not a good writer, and you were stupid and impressionable when you got tricked into thinking his shit was above mediocre.

>it's bad but you don't think it's bad
when has this ever been remotely true? shit is shit.

>>376453918
Have you even given his writing a chance? I was so sick of "le Cthulhu maymay" that I was ready to write him off even before reading any of his work. They I read Mountains of Madness and he was WAY ahead of his time. I got hooked and I've now read almost all of his stories. They're good and incredibly unique.

One thing I've noticed is that as soon as his racism comes up in a thread you get a bunch of people who immediately start saying his work is shit. You niggers are truly pathetic.

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>>376430364
i would kill for this

>>376442806
tentacles are sexy

>>376442145
Fuck off Liquid.

>>376428673
And yet he was a Bernie democract before Bernie was born.

>>376433443
Finally I have found my guy.

>>376430079
He was a self hating white? What happened to him as a child to make him so angry?

>>376457180
yeah the left like to ignore that white supremacists are near universally hardcore socialists that think the government should pay for everything

>>376429421
that does makes sense

>>376438551
James is an eldritch horror, the elder god of steroids

>>376447951
As soon as the first mention of his über rasicim was posted this thread went straight to the bottom of the barrel.

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>>376427579
His prominence in the P&P roleplaying scene (both in pic related and in heavy influence on early D&D) had much to do with it during gaming's most defining era.

>>376447387
Indo-aryans were brown, moron.

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>>376429085
The Complete Fiction of H. P. Lovecraft is great to own on a shelf, but for pure reading pleasure wherever you might find yourself and complete with helpful annotations, I recommend The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories, The Thing on the Doorstep and Other Weird Stories and The Dreams in the Witch House and Other Weird Stories, edited by the prominent Lovecraft Scholar S. T. Joshi.

>>376429289
Ultimately you can't really present Lovecraftian horror in a visual medium.

>>376432098
Re-Animator?

>>376447387
>anything more complicated than black and white is magic
>americans

>not remembering joe campbell, the man who solidified the archetypal protagonist by explaining the most satisfying framework for a narrative ever concieved, the hero's journey

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>>376430364
They aren't novels, but I don't care.

>>376461807
shit these were awesome back in the day, i should find out if they are on kindle and get them.

>>376461964
>Not buying physical copies of all 3 books, with the original art intact

Fucking casuals.

>>376427579
because he's easy to rip off
like dead space

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>>376441824
It went shit after homocide, development got fucked up somewhere along the line.

>randomly cheats on hot as fuck wife
>welp guess im demoted

The ending seemed like they just wanted to bank on the same effect that Red Dead had, but it was done very poorly. I have no sympathy for Cole as a character while John is a fantastic character.

Silent Hill 2 is probably the best whodunnit game

>>376429304
Only really towards the very end, either right before or right after he was diagnosed with the colon cancer that killed him. It was basically "I can't believe I was such an edgelord as a teenager" but in 1930's-speak.

>>376427579
Whatever happened to that Cthulhu game that Frogwares was supposedly developing?

>>376437850
It was the 1920s. I dont think that was a thing.

Nerds like to read genre fiction. Nerds are generally the people who make videogames. Lovecraft is one of the biggest genre writers.

>>376428062

I'm just disappointed that more people don't know about Algernon Blackwood.

Who's your favourite Lovecraft god?

Mine has to be Nyarlathotep. I especially love when he's used in other works not necessarily a part of the Lovecraft universe. It really drives home that he's omnipotent across dimensions.

>>376462406
Nodens, cuz he wasn't a cunt

>>376462508
>no lmao
It's trash

>>376427579
But he's a racist tho?

>>376434031
What about Ace Attorney.

Theres bullshit locked room murders in that game.

I wish i could find one of those comics were they go step by step of the killer's "plans"

>>376453363
pretty sure he didn't actually have a publicist anon
at least not while he was alive

>>376461964
dude pretty sure digitals have either no art or different art

the art is 90% of the appeal

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>>376428864
SOMA

>>376437772
The most amusing thing to me about this screencap is that they think the way to go about "subverting" a man's literary legacy is to write fanfiction based on his work. That's not subverting a legacy, that's contributing to it.

The second most amusing thing to me about this screencap is that "So much Lovecraft work by the diverse crowd is about love, finding yourself. HOPE" which is absolutely not what Lovecraft's work was about. Lovecraft's work was about fear and he has a number of stories wherein the progatonist is horrified when he finds himself, usually because he finds proof that he swapped minds with a fungus monster for a decade or that he's descended from a humanoid fish monster.

Also worth noting that one of Lovecraft's biographers, ST Joshi, is quick to point out some of the last letters Lovecraft ever penned, in which he expresses regret for the more extreme views he had as a young man. ST Joshi is Indian, by the way.

>>376432583
He married a Jew.

>>376464149
Can you play without the monster hide and seek crap?

I just want the story and not watch a LP.

>>376464585
Yes, there's a pussy mode mod on the steam workshop that makes the monsters ignore you

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>>376462406

>>376428749
No, that was Schopenhauer.

>>376430448
It probably didn't go down exactly like that but Lovecraft's ex-wife confirmed that on multiple occasions they'd have houseguests and he'd go on long rants about how the Jews are ruining everything and she'd be like "dude I'm right here"

>>376462406
I really dislike Nyarlanthotep, it is just way to prevalent and a lot of people use it completely wrong. Same with Cthulu, which save for a few instances have completely lost its unknown and mysterious qualities.

These days I really believe the right way to use the Mythos is to use it as a base for your own, like Bloodborne and B.R.P.D.

>>376466164
How should Nyarlathotep be used?

>>376466415
see
>>376464921

are negroes actually cosmic horrors in the Lovecraft mythos?

>>376466164
I'm really really sick of space squid with mind control

>>376466473
Lovecraft isn't anime.

>>376427579
Better question: How come Lovecraft is so overrated.

You can tell me it's more horrid than humans can comprehend all you want, an octupus face does nothing for me.

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>>376466415
What do you have in mind?

>>376466482
Worse, they're niggers

>>376466649
This often repeated and ill informed "opinion" is a testament to how, in actuality, underrated and underread Lovecraft is, because it reflects the ill informed notions of others that claim adherence to his work and all that is "Lovecraftian" without even understanding what "Lovecraftian" means, because they saw Cthulhu in a picture book or on a t-shirt or whatever instead of simply reading the man.

>>376466649
>an octupus face does nothing for me.
sucks for you lmao

>>376467058
Books have even less chance of scaring me. But if the writing was really that good we'd find more inspired artwork that was actually unsettling in any fashion.

>>376467058
I understood what you said, but please never write like this again.

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>>376466649
>I don't like thing.

So what, you want a freakin' medal?

>>376446372
Nah nah, other 1920s racist met Lovecraft and told him to scale it back a bit. They thought HE was too racist, even for them. He used to rant about the Jews until his wife reminded him she was Jewish and told him to clam down for the day. And honestly his work wouldn't be what it is without that hate. Adds a whole new interesting layer to his stories with the recurring theme of disgust at abominable crossbreeds of humans and weird dark things that lurk in the depths.

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>>376430364
One that isn't a shitty text adventure pls.