Is this game suppose to be brutally difficult or do I just suck?

>>376418280
you just suck, focus, learning boss patterns, and saving DT for when you need it is important
try to only use red orbs on new moves, buy stinger asap
pay attention to the environment, its easy to accidentally miss weapons like the shotgun and alastor
what chapter are you on?

>>376418280
The controls are pretty bad. The narrow hallways and shitty camera angles don't help. It's not that the game is difficult, it's just poorly made.

buy stinger as soon as possible
don't spam Devil Trigger evry fucking time
New moves comes before everything else.
aply the megaman logic of learning the pattern of enemies

>>376419241
>poorly made
you were poorly made faggot
the camera is fine 99% of the time, don't run around the arena like a spaz, just roll and backflip

Fighting Griffon on the ship is the worst thing I've ever done.

>>376419471
I'm stuck on the second Nelo Angelo fight, he's the only enemy in the game so far that truly punishes you for sucking at defence

It's probably the hardest in the series. Combined with the controls. Dodge, and you can't go all out in this one, pick off enemies one by one. Just wait. Mundud in the arena and Virgil are tons of fun.

>>376418280
the game gets trivialised when you realize how OP Air Raid is.

>>376419663
>It's probably the hardest in the series.

I don't know man, DMD DMC3 doesn't fuck around. Especially if you're rolling vanilla.

>>376420596
DMC3 is way harder than 1. I don't know how people can say otherwise.

>>376419979
t. someone who hasn't beat it on DMD

>>376419384
lol, the camera is absolutely not fine 99% of the time, the sudden shifts in camera angles which completely disorient your movement are a bitch, especially in the heat of the moment of a boss battle.

>>376419471
>>376419604
wait till Nelo 3 my dudes. try to save those items though, you'll want to have those in your back pocket later

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>>376418280
Most people suck at this game because they want to play it like DMC3, when the approach to combat is far more direct, and killing shit fast is the goal instead of styling all day.

>>376419241
Kill yourself for perpetuating such a shitty opinion my man

>>376419471
Throw Meteors at Griffon with Ifrit, ggez

>>376419979
This is like those fags who claim NG is just Izuna Drop

>>376420797
Yeah, DMC3 is hard on the highest difficulty only because overinflated health pools in comparison.

>>376418280
It is difficult but I assume you are playing DMC for the first time so both. Devil May Cry 3 is also a hard one.

also 3>1>4>2

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>>376421278
1 = 3 > 4 >>> 2

>>376421245
>This is like those fags who claim NG is just Izuna Drop
it literally is
>block a little bit
>slide every now and then
>oh shit time to izuna drop some fool

>>376421358
Actually yeah, 3=1, I liked them both equally.

>>376421146
literally don't run around the edges of an arena midfight and its fine
>he gets disoriented running around the castle
maybe video games aren't for you gramps

>tfw i only finished the games on normal because i liked the story/atmosphere
>tfw i want to git gud after starting to visit /v/ more often
>tfw i have no money and sold my copy of the HD remake years ago

>>376419241
This.
Game is crap.
But I can't tell if the game is worse than it's fanbase, tho

>>376421358
Is there something wrong with 2?

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>>376422083
Yeah, it's shit, just play it. I played it just to know what happened to Dante. You also have to play as a stupid bitch with dumb gameplay. Holy shit this game is so boring. The idea of merging the human world with hell is very cool but it was executed so poorly it makes me sad.

>>376418280
Mundus and arguably Nightmare on DMD are hardest fights in the whole series.

>>376422083
It's an actual shitty game. Very little challenge, enemies kinda just fall over. Worst offender is bosses that fly around in the air, where you can literally do nothing but shoot guns for a good 30 or so minutes. Also water levels, in a motherfucking action game on Lucia's disc.


Can almost be fun on DMD, but the game is just so horribly designed.

DMC1 is the most difficult game in the series. A big part about getting good at DMC1 is actually exploiting enemy elemental weaknesses and using Critical Hits.

>>376422083
2 is my favorite.
Don't listen to the dante-wannabe faggots.

No OP. Dont listen to these faggots, the game is absolutely brutal.
Id say just switch to easy but the game actually cuts a lot of enemies and attacks out completely. You miss out on a lot of stuff, and its also insultingly easy.
Maybe do a quick run of easy to try and get to grips with the game, but normal is a really gruelling task.

It's not easy, you'll have to try the bosses a bunch of times especially but I don't see anything in it qualifies as "brutally difficult"

>>376423012
Play on anything that's not Normal. Hard and DMD in DMC1 completely shit on DMC3 and 4 in terms of difficulty.

>>376418280
DMD is only brutally difficult, if you aren't at that point then you just suck
What part are you on currently?

>>376422863
I refuse to believe this

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>>376422980
>Play easy
Just wow.

>>376423113
DMC3 on hard is 100x harder than DMC1 on DMD.

>>376423257
t.Someone who didn't play DMC1 on DMD

Christ if I could beat it as a kid on hard and whatever was one after then I would sure as hell fucking hope some NEET autist on here could beat it on normal without throwing a temper tantrum.

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>>376422863
>>376423257
Contrarians out in full force today.

>>376423298
t. someone who haven't played either and is just parroting memes

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>>376423398

>>376423398
Lmao. I bet you started the series with DMC3, you have to be out of your mind if that game can even compare to 1's difficult. If you learn Royal Guard even slightly it trivializes alot of the game, then you have Trickster for people who need the huge amount of i-frames on the dodge. 3 gives players styles to make up for their weaknesses, 1 does no such thing, you either git gud at dealing with enemies or you die. Nothing in DMC3 can touch Nightmare 3 or Mundus 2 on DMD in terms of sheer difficulty. Absolutely nothing. Not even Vergil in DMD because thanks to Trickster and Royal Guard you can trivialize Summoned Swords.

>>376422000
lmfao, how about Griffin 2 when he flies up above the arena and the camera outright refuses to keep him in the frame, giving you no frame of reference or reaction time to dodge his attacks?

congrats on being good at the game though, and also on being an internet tough guy.

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Best atmosphere and level design in the series, not even a debate. DMC1 is really something special.

https://youtu.be/vF8rdHz2wZw

>>376423257
Good bait. Here's your (you)

Well earned.

----------OFFICIAL DMC DIFFICULTY RANKING----------

DMC3 >> DMC4 >>>>>>> DMC1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMC2

----------OFFICIAL DMC DIFFICULTY RANKING----------

>>376423890
You hit him with few meteros and auto win.

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>>376424072
>DMC4
>Harder than DMC1

Are you fucking out of your mind my dude.

>>376424117
sure, I didn't have that much trouble with it either, but does that mean the game is above criticism?

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>>376424072

>>376423890
Use the Devil Trigger while using the guns to shoot the fire bird that follows you in the air.
Griffon in the ground is a joke

>>376424180
I don't understand what's so difficult about the first game. The grenade launcher and Ifrit trivialize everything on Dante Must Die. Even the final showdown with Nightmare was a joke with Ifrit's Rolling Blaze.

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Art

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>>376418280
I'm in the same boat as OP. I'm playing in chronological order. Finished DMC3 DMD it was pretty hard but DMC1 is just miles harder. I'm stuck on the nightmare+trish fight for hours and havent bothered to load up the game in a week now. Any tips on this fuckfest?

>>376425124
https://youtu.be/H8qG4AlK1qk

>>376425195
>chronological order
>not order of release
ya fucked up son
at least play 2 before 4 so you don't finish the series with the worst one

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>>376425195

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>>376425409
Order of release confuses me. Who thought it was a fine idea to do a timeline that goes 3>1>4>2

>>376425195
Parry the stab and boomerang attacks with rolling blaze. Everything else should be easy to dodge.

>>376425673
That's what happens when a company gets greedy, tells the original devs to fuck off, makes a shitty sequel, then does a soft prequel-reboot.

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>>376425673
Dude, the story isn't that important.

3 is the prequel that sets up the events of the first game and 4 is the sequel to the first game, 2 is at the end because everyone wants to forget it exists.

>>376421358
>even mentioning 2

Stop.

>>376419241
No, you really just suck at it, DMC was RE in its early days, you are not supposed to go crazy like in DMC3.

>>376418280
Protip to new players, be sure to carry a few devil stones into the final boss fight, that is all.

>>376425195
Sorry I can't give you any tips, I was 9 years old when I beat the game and I haven't replaced it recently.

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>>376426125
>using items

>>376425124
that was silly, at least trish's theme is pretty

>>376422083
2 is actually worse than the DmC reboot.

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>>376424072
Kids these days

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>>376422083
>Is there something wrong with 2?
You tell me.

>>376426231
DMC1's final boss is pretty bleh. I mean, you're right, but still the shit just ain't fun and having an option to cheese it is nice.

I legit cannot remember if I used healing items against Virgil in DMC3, which is really bothering me now.

>>376426146
I just recently restarted my DMC1 playthough I finished it when I was 10. I'm having a harder time than I remember having back then. Maybe all these recent casual games spoiled me too much.

>>376421358
2 doesn't exist

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>>376418280
Playing this game for the first time since I was a kid and it's embarrassing how bad I am. I know I beat it when it released, but maybe I played on easy because even the first boss, that spider dude, took me like 8 tries...

I'm not sure if I have the patience to get good anymore. I breezed through the Bayonetta games, I didn't remember dmc was so much harder.

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That boss where it takes you to hell if you don't run away from haunts my dreams.

>>376418280
Are you emulating? If so, use savestates

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>tfw i'm bad at 1 and 4

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>>376427178

The series doesn't get good until DMC3.

>>376427228
PC casuals fuck off please.

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>>376425975
>>376426962
Yeah yeah, I get it. For it's flaws, we all know it had a great Dante design and OST though.
https://youtu.be/Mmx_ycWgfuI
https://youtu.be/K8aZjBd8sN8
https://youtu.be/bSB3bmwhEO4
https://youtu.be/m8xajhUnroc
https://youtu.be/GoJZQKX7WHM

>>376427058
Dmc literally has flawed controls and camera. It's a trademark of ps2 era games since so many have the same flaws. But defense force would have you think otherwise. It's easy to deal with when we were used to these flaws but after being spoiled with proper camera and controls its hard to get back into the same mindset.

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>>376427301
>tfw it comes back again
The only time where I said fuck it and used items.

>>376427389
>It's another episode of neckbeard tryhard being mean to newcomers

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>>376427513
>wanting to cheat yourself through the game
Why not just watch a stream of someone playing instead?

>>376427301
What a strange design. I like its lasers though.

>>376425975
2 takes place far after the others in the series where dante is uber powerful and jaded by the lack of challenge his foes now pose

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>>376425124
>People make fun of this scene not knowing the voice crack is intentional.

It's a deconstruction of Dante's character.

Throughout the entire game he is painted as this invincible badass that never loses his cool; but when he sees Trish die before him Kamiya deliberately shows him make a fool out of himself. He shows us that even seemingly total badasses like Dante can be sad and broken sometimes, it makes us connect with him.

Hideki Kamiya often puts "keep your chin up" themes in his games, that no matter how shitty life gets you need to face everything with some bravado. After you finish Devil May Cry you're supposed to channel some of Dante throughout yourself. It's quite inspiring.

>>376426685
I was in the same boat last year. Played it way back when but I would never be able to beat DMD now.

>>376427407
Controls are perfectly fine, they are tight and responsive. The problem people actually have with it is limited mobility in comparison to flying around the map at the speed of sound. I'll give you the camera, but it certainly doesn't break the game by any means.

t. defenseforce

>>376427407
>All these mental gymnastics

>>376419241
Agreed about the poorly optimized controls and bad camera angles.

Have to disagree about the game being poorly made. It was well done for its time, it just hasn't aged well.

To be honest though, the game is good but nothing amazing. DMC fags need to stop being fanboys and realize that the series truly started with 3 and ended with 3.

>>376418280
One thing nobody mentioned is that the game actually tells you how to fight every single enemy.

I was having a really difficult time before I noticed that the bestiary tells you how enemies attack, which visual/audio cues to listen for, and when they're most vulnerable.

Use devil trigger

>>376427785
Or it was voice directed by people who didn't understand english and thought it sounded cool.

>>376418280
Just mash attacks and dodge when you think something is coming. You'll be fine on all the default difficulties.

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>get the HD collection ofr 360
>start playing the first game for the FIRST TIME
>"well its an old game, so it will probably feel dated"
>the game is fucking good
DMC1 aged like a fine wine

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>>376427959
Fan of all the games myself, but it's really easy to spot the DMC3babbies.

>>376428248
DMC3>DMC4>DMC>DmC>DMC2

this is objectively correct

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>>376427959
stay salty kiddo

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>>376428442
:^)

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>>376428468
Why did DMC3 score so much lower despite being mechanically better in every aspect?

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>>376426513
>666x666

>>376428468
I'm not salty, I'm just right. I still enjoy DMC it just doesn't touch DMC3 in terms of gameplay.

>>376428610
oh look, three reddit memewords in one picture.

>>376428652
Maybe because sandbag sims aren't for everyone.

You guys are really ruining what used to be my favourite threads with this dick waving and bitching. I played the whole series on release and they're all great games except 2.

I have the HD collection now and I like to alternate playthoughs between dmc and dmc3 dante and vergil. It's a nice rotation.

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>>376419384
I can't tell you how many times Nelo Angelo killed me in the last phase of health bar on DMD because of that awful PS1 RE camera.
Fuck you.

>>376428652
Didn't innovate or do anything special. It's basically the Dark Souls 3 of the series: better gameplay, but who cares at this point when the series was heavily oversaturated?

how do i get good at 4

>>376428442
ive only played DMC4 and it was terrible, so if this is true its basically not worth playing any of them

>>376428652
The vanilla English release had some issue with difficulty settings. I think it was that normal was actually hard or something like that. Basically it was too hard for the critics.

>>376428248
I tried to emulate 1 and didn't get very far because I was too used to other games and it felt a little off to me. But I loved 3 and 4 and agree he sounds like a faget

>>376428825
Good analogy actually.
>Both games have rapid fire sequels with little innovation.
>3rd game lacks originality.
>3rd game lacks atmosphere.
>3rd game has the best gameplay.

>>376422015
If you can play it on PS2 you can find it super cheap online.

But you fucked up, and have no excuse for selling a compilation of such great and replayable games.

>>376428652
Most reviewers thought the game was way too fucking hard, they also didn't bother trying to learn it.

How do I get good enough to get the platinum trophy in this game

>>376429135
Here I was thinking you are reasonable until "little innovation"

DMC3 and DMC1 have different control scheme and DMC3 triple the amount of gameplay options

Just wait until Nightmare aka Bullshit Incarnate.

>>376427785
I think the choice of words is the most laughable part of that scene.

Like seriously. Even Capcom made fun of it in MvC3.

>>376429327
A lot of the options were introduced in DMC2.

>>376429142
i dont own a ps2 (and dont want to)
Also i sold it with my xbox once i got a decent pc.

>>376429135
It probably works worse the otherway around. If you start with 3 which has the best gameplay it's also the most original for you. So just like if you start darksouls at 3 you dont see whats so special about the first darksouls game and why people praise it alot more than 3. Same with DMC.

I tried to play this game a year ago.
I got stuck on a big slime blob thing or something.
It was literally impossible.

>>376427785

Hence, even the "Devil May Cry".

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>>376429428
>this whole post
>sold it with my xbox once i got a decent pc.
>Not even an xbox emulator in existence
retard.

I'm honestly afraid of attempting DMD for 1, I spent a couple of hours just getting the shit kicked out of me by Nelo 3 on Hard. If I have that much trouble with him on Hard, I can't even imagine what sort of ass rape is waiting for me in DMD.

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>>376429485
Then Trish has a bright idea.

>>376429548
i dont like emulators. fuck you

>>376429404
DMC2 only has 1 melee moveset, 1 has 2.5, 3 has 5

3 introduced RG and Air Trick. Double gun moveset (2 has other gun moves but not as much as 3) and charge shots

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>>376429690
Mundus was right. Trish was a mistake.

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>>376429738
So you just give up on games because they're old. What's it like being a filthy fucking casual?

>>376429751
>DMC2 only has 1 melee moveset
Wrong. There are actually multiple movesets, but they're tied to pushing the analog stick in a direction every few swings for whatever reason.

>>376429913
not because they're old, but emulators shat on me in the past. I'd save some money for the games if they were on steam, my only problem is that i'm poor as fuck.

>>376429738
>doesn't like emulators
>sells console where you could play games that don't have PC ports

You dun goofed son.

>>376430121
He's saying that all the swords have the same moveset for no reason.

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>>376428825
Except
>DMC3 has a superior story and antagonists

Nobody cares about Mundus

>>376430273
i know. I reget it.

>>376419241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5v7NLT5fS0

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Is this Dante from the Devil May Cry series?

>>376428825
3 is the most memorable DMC though

When it comes to dark souls the first one will be remembered but for DMC it's either 3 or in other cases 4

Kinda off comparison

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I unironically think Hideki Kamiya was the only one who truly understood DMC's style and that he is completely justified in wanting to distance himself from later installments. DMC4's style is one step away from a boilerplate 00's Shonen Jump comic and it uses lots of WINKWINK to try to cover up how ridiculously trite it is.

Come at me.

t. Kamiyafag

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Shit that would never be allowed in today's DMCs.

>>376430638
Kamiya is a hack who prefers presentation over good gameplay.

Itsuno is held back by shitty Capcom

>>376430638
Shame Kamiya hasn't made anything good after playing God of War :)

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>>376430837
What about this?

>>376430974

Fuck him, Devil's Third was awful.

>>376429327
You're talking about a control change and fleshing out what was already there, which I alluded to when speaking about the gameplay. But that's not really innovation, that's just expansion on what's there. Don't redefine the word.

>>376430974
Team Ninja don't need him anymore

They need some good level designers and someone who can make the enemy variety not trash and they're back to being gawds again

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>>376430638
>Kamiya wanted to "distance" himself from later installments
>then proceeds to make a DMC clone that plays just like DMC3

Kamiyafags are such a patethic troop of cock suckers. No wonder why he blocks his fanbase left and right.

>DMC1fags invade DMC threads because everyone only talks about DMC3
>DMC3babbies invade DMC1 thread because ?????

Shit's like poetry

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>>376431215
>Team Ninja don't need him anymore

I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>376431215

Any chances of Ninja Gaiden 4 being good?

>>376431175
Even the approach to combat (on DMD) is not the same: DMC1 has critical hits and combat relies on killing enemy fast with divide and conquer. DMC3 has you manage enemy health to take them out at the same time

An example of a Dark Souls 3 type of sequel would be Bayonetta 2 or Ninja Gaiden 2

>>376422495
it took me like a week to kill mundus on night mare, the good ol days

>>376431405
Oh that series itself is deader than dead

Stopped being good after 2 and the rest boy, glad they retired

>>376431268
Distance from =/= Hate

Imagine writing a book and having a sequel in mind, then somebody comes a long and makes a follow-up to your book. Just because it's good, would you like it? Probably not, because it's not what you had in mind for a sequel.

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>>376431275
This was all for revenge.

I like both games, but you can't expect to berate a fanbase for years, without them striking back at some point. This is how the internet works and shitposters know it.

>>376431508
That's not innovation though.

>>376431647
Revenge for which side exactly? Who's berated who? I'm a big DMC fag in general, but I tend to lean more towards the DMC1 side of things. They're definitely in the minority here.

>>376430419
Fuck off

>>376419241
Hi DSP

>>376431618
Sorry to break it to you, but the dude was fired from Capcom after his subdivision Clover constantly failed to meet sales expectations, he didn't "distance" himself from anything as much as he was legally forced to jump ship.

The fact that he decided to make a spiritual successor that plays very similar to the recent installments rather than what he originally designed really shows how much he liked the direction they took.

And if you haven't noticed, Bayonetta is far from being as grimdark and esoteric like DMC1 was. So in the end his game is way more in touch with DMC3 than it is with DMC1, both thematically and functionally.

if all else fails just buy holy water

>>376427469
OH MY GOOD THE MEMORIES COME BACK. PLEASE STOP THEM STOP THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376432149
Kek it's true, Dante's feud between Vergil was far more interesting than whatver the corny shit Dante's mummu issue in 1 and some shitty final fight with Mundus who nobody cares about

>>376430419
people actually paid attention to the story in these games?

Trish is kind of a cunt for real.

>>376432334
>Sorry to break it to you, but the dude was fired from Capcom after his subdivision Clover constantly failed to meet sales expectations, he didn't "distance" himself from anything as much as he was legally forced to jump ship.

Actually, Devil May Cry 2 started development before DMC1 was even released. Kamiya was still at the company when Devil May Cry 3 was being made and Itsuno even asked him for advice.

>>376432686
Yeah, I hate when bitches throw their motorcycles at me too.

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>>376419241
You know a fanbase is bad when they aren't capable of admitting the game has a single flaw.

>>376419241
you are right about the fixed camera angles

>>376419241
>how to trigger DMC fans

What the fuck is with Kamiya and camera angles anyway?

DMC1 and Bayo both have super bad cameras.

>>376419241

Fixed camera angles were fine for DMC1, but for later games, they should have been done away with.

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*blocks your path*

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>>376433424
*blocks your path*

>>376419604
>>376419471
had the same problems for years. here are my tips:

for ship griffin: i don't know if i got lucky, but evade-roll-right + grenade + evade-roll-left + grenade + and so on has worked for me

for nelo angelo:
try him daily. das it.
your brain processes that stuff over night. that is why with some games you try and try and try and always fail and the next day you beat it on the first try
as anime as it may sound: never give up. keep fighting him daily until you have his patterns down.

>>376433424
More like
>*clips through wall*

>>376418280
Learn to roll and learn to use your tools. DMC1 is the best 3D castlevania game. Most mob enemies are weak to your shotgun, others require different gimmicks

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>>376433634
That's all the ghosts in general. They don't put a force field around you though.

>>376423210
I mean, I did when I was a baby but it made normal even more enjoyable. I was like:
>Oh shit new enemy

>>376433634
It's a ghost anon, what do you want it to do.

Death Scythe is the best enemy in the DMC series.

Wow the "try daily" tip is really good
Thank, this might as well solve my problems for Bloodborne

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Man fuck these guys. It's almost like they wanted you to spam them with stinger.

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>>376432728
And what does that have to do with the direction DMC3 and 4 took, from which you allegedly say Kamiya decided to "distance" himself from? Wouldn't it make much more sense that he would want to stay close to the series and make it grow in the direction he wants?

Stop sucking dick for a moment and realize that Kamiya is not an artistic god who is above corporate decisions. Capcom is the one who calls the big shots.

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>>376433936
>best enemy in the DMC series.
Nah, this guy gets my vote.

>>376434152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5jNlLbTN5w

The music gets you so pumped

>>376434152
my nigga, always looked forward to fighting these

>>376434231
DMC1 had a really great OST in general, shame about the lyrical garbage in the later games.


https://youtu.be/FDOGUHmdzNY

>>376434108
>Stop sucking dick for a moment and realize that Kamiya is not an artistic god who is above corporate decisions. Capcom is the one who calls the big shots.

I know, which is why DMC2 happened the way it did in the first place. They went and started the sequel completely without him.

>>376434231
Man I loved Psycho Siren. No music track in the series tells you shit is about to go down more than that one. Kind of a shame Shadows are really easy to deal with.

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>>376434317
>That secret mission where you fight 3 in a narrow hallway

you must really fuckin suck, I beat this when I was like 10

>>376434152
The pro Shadow strats: Don't actually attack them, wait until they do that move where they turn into spears and shoot out at you. When they do this jump straight up, land on their spear body and unload into them with DT E&I. Normal it will outright kill them, on Hard and DMD it will deal incredible amounts of damage.

>>376432568
I agree with you about Vergil being the better antagonist. I'm saying that despite that, Mundus is still a good antagonist.

>>376434608

and I'd also like to add that it was incredibly fuckin easy

>>376432728

>Itsuno even asked him for advice.

To which Kamiya said "do what you want"

Kamiya would later say in the Making of Bayonetta that DMC3 did a ton of cool shit that he applied on Bayonetta.

>>376434724
Did you die to phantom and switch to easy-automatic by any chance? Serious question, because I actually wonder about that myself back when I played it.

>>376419241
>First time playing an action game
>Immediately arm chair dev instead of trying to understand how it's played

>Don't use Devil Trigger every time

What the fuck are you all even talking about? Getting DT gauge is piss easy.

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>>376433003
That's literally just the equivalent of walking into any thread and saying "it's shit". dumb frogposter.

>>376433580
Is that Asura in the upper right?

>>376434108

>Itsuno didn't direct DMC2, just tried to salvage it at the end

That makes a lot of sense actually. Itsuno is pretty talented, so a disaster like DMC2 doesn't seem to fit him.

I like the way DT is handled in DMC1 more than the other games. DT is vital to your arsenal, a lot of moves are locked behind it, making the mode feel really important. DT in the other games is just "move faster, regen health, take less damage."

>>376434352
3's got some good music too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0yPlB9kdEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICeSN2UMMNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0d871bN3Q

>>376423257
>Beating on potato sacks with over 9000 gorrilion health
>Hard

Fucking kek

>>376426231
The items are there specifically for the people playing for the first time dick cheese

>>376428019
The loss of the bestiary is just another sign on how much the series regressed in the sequels.

>>376435513
>beat it first time
>use items
>"gee that was easy"
>never play it again

People who use items in an action game are probably casuals who will never return to play it again.

>>376422083
same as serious sam 2

good game
bad sequel

>>376431405
If you asked me this after Razor's Edge i would say very good. Now that your asking me this after Nioh i don't know anymore, but the fact that RE happened still gives me hope.

>>376431602
>Stopped being good after 2

Meme spouting mongoloid

>>376435974
Razors edge was trash

>>376434881

didn't that just make it so if you hold down the button you keep shooting? but no, I don't think I changed to that, I probably didn't die to phantom either because I remember it asking you if you want to change it and a different part and I was already made it that far so I was like, "why the fuck would I change the difficulty to be easier?"

>>376436032

wow I fucked up writing this post

>but no, I don't think I changed to that. I probably didn't die to phantom either because I remember it asking you if you want to change it at* a different part and I was already that far so I was like, "why the fuck would I change the difficulty to be easier?"

>>376434152
Ninja Gaiden fag here. It's literally one of the best enemies in any video game period, the only way it could be improved would be to extend the solid phase and give it a more cat like moveset during it

>>376435801

>mfw I always save my items because I think I'll need them later and had a shit ton of holy waters and other stuff that I used all on the last boss

>>376430638
I completely agree. DMC 1 Dante is the only one who is still cool to me, the rest are just embarrassing. I played the first game because I wanted to be Dante, I played the other games in spite of Dante.

I'm glad Kamiya's moved on to other things though, he has an insane talent for making unique action games.

>>376419241
I love DMC 1 but this is true. It needs a remake bad.

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>>376435309
And don't forget the fucking retarded DT explosion in 3.

>let's make our game about wailing on potato sacks and (poorly) balance the difficulty around it but also give the player an efficient way to screen wipe said potato sacks with no fighting involved.

So fucking dumb and it looks as bad as it sounds.

>>376436373
I'd be down from a DMC1 Remake.
Shit would be pretty nice.

>>376436031
You're fucking trash. I am willing to bet you did not even fucking play it and are just being another /v/ parrot oxygen thief.

>>376418280
If it's your first action game it's understandable. If it's not then DMC1 is pretty easy on Normal

>>376436373
>>376436463
Only if Kamiya makes it. He deserves a second chance, and the way the series was pulled out from him was wrong.

Don't think a remake would do it any justice regardless.

>>376436629
As long as there's no QTE's

>>376436373
KYS

DMC1 aged like fine wine

>>376436629
Well i'm a DMC3babby, but I appreciated the atmosphere and level design outside of that shitty water level. the actual combat was solid but not to my liking.
Would really like a DMC1 remake that got cleaned up a bit and expanded on, I' personally like it if you had some more varied moves with some more fluidity between them.

>>376436695
people meme QTEs because Bayonetta, but forget his other golden shit like VJ and whatnot.

Don't own a wii u so can't comment on W101

>>376436828
VJ was before he played God of War though.

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Loved it.

>>376427885
>Controls are perfectly fine, they are tight and responsive.
Evasive rolling wasn't handled well at all, though. R1 + Triangle + Direction? When you have a whole right analog stick just sitting there doing nothing? And where left and right can change quickly because of changing camera angles?

At least God of War figured it out.

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>>376435630
Yeah, it's such a shame that only the game of our beloved almighty overlord Kamiya had a bestiary, and the other ugly and stinky games didn't.

>>376437230
>Evasive rolling wasn't handled well at all, though. R1 + Triangle + Direction?

The jump has i-frames in DMC.

It's often the better option.

>>376437230
This is literally all the DMCs though outside trickster, minus DMC2.

>>376436117
I hate how DMD mode in DMC3 came down to DTE management because of ow terribly implemented the enemy DT system was.

>>376436828
Unrelated but i wonder if you could classify the things in okami as qtes? They don't feel like qtes but they kind of function as them.

>>376437310
Have you ever seen the bestiary in DMC1 retard? Even as nothing more then fluff text that shit is bare bones

>>376435108
But there are moments when you'll really need it, and you won't be able to get any if an enemy entraps you, or would be really risky to get in a tough situation.

It's not about saving the DT as if it was water on the desert or using it mindlessly; the DT management is about spending it wisely and making sure you always have at least 3 orbs to get away from a tough situation.

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>>376422083
No. I want to tell you something right now, anon. The "DMC2 is bad" / "DMC2 doesn't exist" posts you see are very, very old memes that were never funny. But play it anyway.

>>376437597
I literally never payed attention to it, i used it to get through DT enemies and to do combos since some moves are DT only. It's so easy to get that it's never an issue, shit i didn't even use taunt back then.

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>>376437310
>filled of tripoxylus
>google tripoxylus
>it's a fucking beetle.

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>>376436227
>mfw I used over 150 gold orbs on DMD Mundus

>>376437931
Beetles are the true demons of DMC. Sparda looks like a beetle. Scientist DT in DMC4 is a bug.

>>376436828
Neither DMC or VJ had them, but they are older than Bayonetta and all his work at Platinum.

The meme is fully justified.

>>376438215
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.

The demon/devils designs in these games looks like shit and it would be a thousand times better if it was more traditional.

>Cockroach wings

For what fucking purpose?

>That fucking mess that are the 3 and 4 designs

Blegh

>>376437837
>he "DMC2 is bad" / "DMC2 doesn't exist" posts you see are very, very old memes that were never funny.

Nah, DMC2 is legitmately fucking bad.

Devil May Cry 2 commits the greatest sin a DMC game can, it's fucking boring. Boring levels, boring weapons, boring enemies, boring story, boring fucking Dante.

It's a slog to play.

>>376438215
never thought about that.
What did the japs mean by this?

>>376422083
It's decent. Moving around and seeing Dante's hair and coat and hair move around is somewhat satisfying. The two main issues of the game are the weapon variety and a lot of the enemies' design.

>DMC1
>mash triangle

>DMC2
>mash square

>DMC3
>mash triangle

>DMC4
>mash triangle

All these games are boring as shit.

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>>376438531
>He doesn't like the Sparda devil trigger

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>>376438531
>That fucking mess that are the 3 and 4 designs
I'll fight you anon

>>376438834
Have fun with your shit rank.

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>>376438531
>Implying taking inspiration from insects isn't rad as fuck.

It's legitmately the best and most unique part of their demon designs you tremendous pleb.

>>376438885
You might have noticed that i didn't complain about anything other than he's stupid fucking cockroach wings

>>376439002
I don't fight the mentally challenged anon

Jesus Christ they look even worse in concept art. How can anyone fucking like that? It's not even Power Rangers tier of design.

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>>376439268
I was just fucking around, but you've outted youself as a tremendous fag. Go stick with your "muh traditional" garbage elsewhere.

>>376439025
>taking video game ranks seriously
Wow anon you sure accomplished something.

lol i played this yesterday and today all 23 missions on normal in just over 6 hours the game is not hard, the only trouble i had was findimg where to go, but theres a map marker

>>376435309
It feels almost mandatory on the higher difficulties to do respectable damage in dmc1. Boss fights feel like they come down to building gauge then spending it on combos. Not criticizing because I enjoy it, just saying.

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>>376439514
>Says the games are too easy
>Gets called out for bullshit
>WOW TAKING VIDEO GAMES SERIOUSLY

>>376439457
>HOW DARE YOU HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT MUH PERFECT GAEMS!

Fucking retard

>>376438018
You think thats bad? I think I stockpiled something like 10-15 invincibility stars for that cunt. And worst thing is you cant buy more than 1 so getting 15 meant replaying whole game before him at least 10 times to pick up the rare ones you actually find during playing.

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>>376439268
>Shit-talking Kaneko

Don't make me blow this trumpet.

>>376439776
Damn, is this what rustled jimmies looks like?

>>376439962
>Skelly with no lips blowing trumpet
2spook

>>376440101
>it's a underage posts on 4chan episode

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>>376439457
Red orb is mai waifu =3

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>>376440221
>It's anon with absolute shit taste desperate for (You)'s season
Final episode

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>>376440363
partial to purple

>>376429465
Anyone know what I'm talking about?
How do i beat that thing?

>>376439268
I disagree.
Despite artwork style being weird, it meshes well in game.
Maybe I'm biased because I like the artist's general demon works. To each of their own.

>>376439962
TOOT

>>376440764
Sounds like Nightmare. Also get good. Watch a jewtube video or something

>>376440764

the thing on the ground of the church place where you first fought phantom the lava spider that sucks you up and makes you replay bosses? he's easy as fuck. but it's been a while so I Don't really remember how the fight goes. I think he shows some ball that's his weak point unless i'm mixing him up with something else, then you just un around and dodge til he does that then attack the ball or go into devil trigger and shoot lightning at it. also, that's at nearly the end of the game.

>>376418280
the best devil may cry, if you can call the shit sequels devil may cry... i complete it in dante must day when i was 13-14, that was a awesome time

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>>376440890
>To each of their own.
There's no such thing here.
You must blindly hate on anything different from your own point of view.

>>376441119
Breaking that ball makes him wreck you even harder.

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>>376440363
Blue orb is crazy in the sheets.

>>376438531
Yeah nah your taste is ass. I'd be significantly less interested in the series of they stuck with boring ass basic biblical angels/demons like Darksiders/The Darkness/Dantes Inferno.

btw, how long did it take you guys to beat devil may cry? when I first got it I spent the night at my friends house and just played it on his ps2 the whole time and all night and almost got the end, then I transferred the data to my memory card and beat it the next day at my house so I beat it in 2 days.

>>376430129
>too stupid to operate an emulator

you don't deserve to play anything

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>>376441340
I love orb posting

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>>376441340
Oh my.

>>376422083

people over exaggerate. 1 and 3 are really unique games that have a different design philosophy that's pretty damn gun.

2 has a few concepts from 1 but in general it's just a regular action game of that era. It has a few fun moments honestly and there are some cool ideas, but it's just generally underwhelming

>>376441454
DMC1 can be beaten in a sitting. I'm talking like 5-6 hours at most.

>>376441526
>emulators fucked up my pc/me
>too stupid to operate
how?

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>>376441528

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Trish looked best in MVC3. Like damn

>>376441854
>emulators fucked up my pc/me

did you mount C: in dosbox? That's literally the only instance of an emulator destroying your computer, and the one thing they consistently insist and warn you not do

>>376441907
>Not Capcorb

>>376442106
You demon. I'm crying here.

>>376437585

>Let me just move this goal post

DMC always had a bestiary, numbnuts. You're plain wrong, it's ok.

>>376441454
If you know what you're doing DMC1's super short, barely over two hours.

>>376422083
You'd be better off asking what's right about 2, the list would be shorter.

>>376442595
>The music
>Dante's design
>Rolling around and running up walls

>>376428652
People like fluff. Although DMC3 had superior gameplay DMC1 had more cutscenes, puzzles, platforming and exploration. Also it was newer at the time.

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>>376442595
Good things bout DMC2

>Dante's new costume
>The soundtrack
>Some new moves that would later be properly be fleshed out in 3
>The Despair Embodied is a pretty good final boss

Anything else?

>>376442595

this was my first play through, though

then i skipped dmc2 because everyone said it sucked, skipped 3 because I thought it would still suck like 2 did, finally 4 came out and it was kind of disappointing since you got about half a game you had to play through twice just to actually get to the end with all the backtracking but the arm stuff was cool.

>>376442818
This scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Y8WhHG6O0

>>376418280

DMD on Devil May Cry is the hardest I've ever been fucked up in vidya.
>>376419241
The controls fixed in the HD collection.

>>376442818
Amulet affinity switching was a neat idea.

>>376442921

fuck I quoted the wrong person

meat to quote
>>376442493

>>376425975

People shit on 2 for everything, yes it's a bad game but it laid the foundations of DMC3's style system and in its own very small way made a great contribution to the series.

>>376443062
I wish it was more streamlined. Having to pause the game to switch amulets/swords was kind of a chore.

>>376442921

also skipped 3 because dante looked gay shirtless

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Best Dante design and track aren't even in the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdJwxGJ5GEg

>>376443258
>yes it's a bad game but it laid the foundations of DMC3's style system and in its own very small way made a great contribution to the series.

The atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both great contributions to the creation of DMC in their own small way.

>>376444589
looks like dmc1 dante in dmc3's clothes. Pretty weird.

>>376442034
Yeah, she looks phenomenal in MvC3. DMC4 Trish looks fucking terrible.

>>376444879
DMC1 Dante's more tan.

>>376444879

Lost it.

>>376444879

Like in Project X Zone. It fits the ending of DMC3 where he gears up like in 1. If anything it's to show continuity with the modern version of the series.

>>376445064
Yeah but has DMC1 Dante's face
It's like Solid Snake in Brawl who has Big Boss' head