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Is this the best game ever made? I can't think of any other

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Is this the best game ever made?

I can't think of any other game with the sheer amount of detail and depth that The Witcher 3 has.

One of the expansions alone is better than most games out there.
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I didn't like the setting.

I get fed up of medieval fantasy very quickly.
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The combat is not very good, but that's really the only thing holding it back
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>depth
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It's the best AAA title no doubt, but many other games can be considered good or even better than the witcher in the other classes. The thing is triple A titles are almost always don't hold to expectations which they are bearing.
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Wanna replay it.

Any mod recommendations?
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>>376399267
Nice roulette from 2ch webm thread
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>>376399135
Bald Geralt
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>>376398797
It's up there, especially if you like the characters. I played it twice to fix the bad ending shit and loved Hearts of Stone.

Started Blood and Wine... Does this get better? I just got to the part where a harlot queen decided to start following me.
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>>376398890
You're an idiot then because this is hardly bog standard tripe. Medieval fantasy is incredibly broad.
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>>376399267
i DEMAND a nice waifu
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>>376398797
FFXV is just as good.
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>>376399464
It gets better but not by much. While Heart of Stone didn't have that great of a setting (just the east side of the map got a little expanded), the story was incredible.
Blood & Wine is pretty much the opposite. Ok story, great environment to explore
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>>376398797
Why does everyone on /v/ like HoS more than BaW? HoS didn't have enough content, the only thing it has over BaW is a much better villain.
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>>376399267
Rowling
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>>376399464
I prefer Blood and Wine over Hearts of Stone but my opinion is a minority. I feel the characters of the second expansion are much better, and as I'm Italian I prefer the familiar scenery and names of Toussaint.
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>>376399642
But the villain is reeeally good. Like god tier good writing. BaW has the environment but dethlaff is meh
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The world feels empty and repetitive. I just looked at the minimap most of the time while riding through the endless trees.

And the combat is shit
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>>376399642
Geralt is monster hunter, he gets to literally outsmart Satan himself.

My dumb ass got the good ending on the first try, felt pretty good.
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>>376398797
Definitely a well made game but it's sadly extremely boring.
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>>376398797
>Is this the best game ever made?

it this bait?
check this webm
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>>376399642
>>376399743
Dethlaff was pretty much was a bit of autistic animal vampire. I respect he was good for Regis, but you won't fuck up vampire laws and fuck up town over one woman. I'm surprised you couldn't ask any other higher vampire for help ( Not the elder) and lock the fucker in the cage in that prison for age or two. Just knock the ruins on his head.
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>>376399870
Why would people need to check a webm after having played the game 100h+?
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>>376399870
I remember this part. I used igni on the drowners and then aggroed some of the guards that helped defend. Super frustrating for such an early quest.
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>>376399993
if I can destroy your 100 hours in 16 seconds, it means it was not such a great game after all
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>>376398797
Hate the combat, story tends to be meaninglessly depressing and bleak, boring in general, etc. I'm glad some people like it though. And I like a lot of the writing on a technical level. It's just too not-fun to experience though.
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>>376398797
>handholds you through absolutely everything
>literally not a single hard quest since the game tells you exactly what to do
>combat mechanics are so simple that you can go the entire game without using potions or oils
>use Eagle Vision to solve absolutely fucking everything
Nope.
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>>376400090
>meaninglessly depressing and bleak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnAS3_TYcaw
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>>376398797
Game is worth it for Skellige and toussaint alone.
Just wish this played more in some quests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCmPfbKPZSs
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>>376400154
why do normalfags try so hard to push real life onto games and anime?

FUCK OFF I play/watch because I DO NOT WANT real life
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>>376399794
I decided to let the slavic guy live, and thought I could still challenge mirror man to a fight. That was a sad reset.
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>>376400284
I meant let him die.
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>>376400154
There's magic, it's not real life.
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Toussaint>Skellige>Novigrad>Vellen
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>>376400270
The witcher books are entirely about real life, the fantasty setting was mostly used to get them through soviet era polish censors
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>>376400509
>>>/lit/

we are talking videogames, nerd
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>Depth
>Combat is shallow as fuck
>The only way you can affect the world in any way is through dialogue choices
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>>376399870
is this bait?
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>>376400154
>tfw Velen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olli46Ixo1Y
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>>376400558
Ah yes, forgot that fat as fuck reddit newfags unironically use the word 'nerd'.
You are also the ones who unironically post
>Ummmm
and
>*action*
right?
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>>376400643
Velen is such a depressing shithole, starting a new game+ and going straight from Touissant to Velen was almost shock
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>>376400489
I fucking love the blue colored water in toussaint.
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>>376400619
>can only affect the world through dialogue choices
lol yeah, it was soo good talking all those monsters and bandits out of towns so that the people could return!
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>>376400619
t.mad bloodborne faggot cucked out of the gorillion goty's that w3 got
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>>376398797

I don't like the way Geralt looks. It's off putting
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>>376400105
>combat mechanics are so simple that you can go the entire game without using potions or oils
yeah when you put it on the easiest difficulty you fucking noob cunt lol
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Shame it pretty much ignores half of W2 and shits on all your choices in the other half. Elfs? Dragons? Pure superstitions i guess. Then also Roche being pretty cold towards you for no good reason, Radovid going full retard just because and so on.
Wasn't big fan of muh ciri either. Then you have the intro with the priest and the intro with Yen leveling two armies to the ground just because it looks cool i guess but to this day i don't get what was the point of either of these.
And then also half of the world acting like the monster actually don't exist, despite drowners roaming everywhere just outside of the city.
Really, what the fuck was with that? Some kind of widespread if i ignore it it will go away, assuming it won't eat me mentallity?
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>>376398797
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>>376400925
Not that I expected anything else from redditors who unironically type ''lol''.
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>>376401052
>half of the world acting like the monster actually don't exist
i really, really don't know what in the fuck you're talking about
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>>376401056
In the Witcher 3 you are tasked with finding Ciri. Now to start the game off you have a very weak lead to another person who may have a general idea where Ciri is. This is the path where the casual player who enjoys games like gothic follows, because it's the quest. Witcher 3 is a GOOD game because its rewards players who ignore the main quest and explore.

One town, upon coming across it, you need a pass to get into the city. Now gothic players, when they reach this part they give up because they are too casual. When there is 7 different ways to obtain entry to the city/obtain a pass.
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>>376400852
>literally Ubisoft-tier outposts
Yup, it sure is the best game ever. Other games can't offer anything that comes close to shallow, copy-pasted encounters that just reward you with some money/crafting resources/a generic store.
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>>376401114
>makes post on 4chan
>expects a redditor to reply with "lol"
yeah you have autism.
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>>376398797
>Is this the best game ever made?
No, it's a dull adventure game where all side activities involve following blood trails, wine scents and foot prints. The main story is 95% slogging through 4 zones to find a Mary Sue and 5% fighting super bad elf.

>One of the expansions alone is better than most games out there.
Which one?

Hearts of Stone? The one which blatantly ripped off the existing tales? And also introduced enemies which have quotes from pop culture movies (the shit we hated Borderlands 2 for but completely ignore in W3 for some reason)?

Blood and Wine? I couldn't even finish it. It's the same shit all over again, except in Tuscany.
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>>376401286
This so much.

Gothic players are so nooby they don't even know it's of the lead directors of the witcher games favourite game.
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>>376401297
>game world is only changeable through dialogue options
well if you can actually clear towns overrun by monsters/bandits. that changes the world and isn't a dialogue option
>REEEE REEEE ITS UBISHIT UR A SHIL REEE GET OUT! ITS COPY PASTED AND SHALLOW REEE
thanks for sharing, my point still stands.
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>>376398797
Definitely in my top 10 of all time. It's how games should be these days, but with CDPR being so successful with it I can see the fame going to their heads. This will probably be a one hit wonder, and Cyberpunk will end up being too big of a monster for them to control. It'll be released as a mess.
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>>376401286
>casual player who enjoys games like gothic
i laughed
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>>376399516
Sure, if you are 14
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>>376401213
When you go with the baron to the crones and get jumped by drowners, the soldiers are like holy shit, drowners exists.
Then there was also some talk between Geralt and Regis how people don't believe in them anymore or some shit. Half of the kingdom has monster problem quest, fucking queen sends for witcher to solve monster murders, but in fact they don't believe in them, alright. Nilfgaardians also act surprised by the existence of the monster on several occasions. And this narrative follows through several other points in the game.
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>>376398938
I used to say this too. Then i did ng+ and leveled up ard and now im having a blast
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>>376401515
They made 2 great games before w3 and have shown to steadily improve as a developer.
Sure we cant know how good cp77 will be but theres no evidence to suggest itd be a mess.
I mean w3 had a lot more question marks about it, the engine wasnt finished, they didnt know how the open world would play out and had to wing it.
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>>376398797
>depth
Man, thats a really good joke.
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>>376401515
>a game that offers no challenge whatsoever is how games should be these days
No.
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>>376401052
>Didn't read the books: The Post.
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>>376401469
not to mention gothic 1 is unplayable with its shit visuals. i don't want to look at polygons with blurred textures when i game, it's not what I bought a $400 graphics card for.
gothic 1 + 2 were among my favorite games, as a child.

inb4
>REEE GRAPHICS ARENT EVERYTHING
i know. But games from before the year of 2005 are almost unbearable to play unless you have nostalgia goggles, which I have grown out of sorry.

PC could have a game drop tomorrow with the best gameplay and story ever made, with N64 graphics. it wouldn't be recognized as anything but indie shit though for its piss poor graphics
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>>376401679
Current CDPR sounds like pre-ME2 Bioware, so I'm not going to blindly trust them.
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If its the best game ever made, why does every piece of interactivity and gameplay completely mediocre?
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>>376401690
If I wanted a challenge I wouldn't be playing a game that focuses heavily on story/narrative would I? There are other games that fill that void, why does it come down to just difficulty?
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>>376401717
>no upper cases
>using 'game' as a verb
>can't play older games because of graphics
Reddit detected.

>it's not what I bought a $400 graphics card for.
No, you bought it to play unoptimized shit because no worthwhile videogame requieres anything more than a GTX 1060.
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>>376401679
>steadily improve
But first Witcher is much better than second and third.
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>>376401565
you're retarded
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>>376401717
Gothic series sold about 1/10th of witcher series, its so niche I dont understand why anyone would use it as a comparison.
>You should do things like gothic and cut your sales by 90% ;D
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>>376401565
They're not surprised that these things exist, they're surprised that thy haven't been driven to extinction.

You're confusing general surprise in surprising situations with bafflement.
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>>376401690
>hasn't played for more than 30 mins on a difficulty higher than the easiest
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>>376401795
RPGs used to have complex, challenging quests that could be solved in different ways.
Also, why does a game focusing on narrative mean it can't be challenging?
I'm sure CDPR has the capacity to make a quest that doesn't requiere you to spam Eagle Vision and scan footprints for 10 minutes.
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>>376401679
I could never really get in to the first Witcher, but I played Witcher 2 a shit ton of times, which is probably why I enjoyed Witcher 3 even more.
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>>376401691
Yes, i'm sure the books would tell me why some characters completely flipped their personalities or just straight up disappeared without trace and anyone related to them remembering.
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>>376401853
What did he mean by this?
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>>376400036
>the devs wanting you to use a feature somehow ruins everything else
You didn't destroy anything, errand boy.
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>>376401831
Oh yeah, need to pander to the Skyrim and COD audience by taking away any potential challenge, can't make them have to think a bit and make them get stuck in a quest that doesn't involve doing exactly what's said on screen now, do we?
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Every threads about popular games on /v/ are populated by people from other fanbase.

DaS3 - DaS2 fags
Witcher series - Gothic

Why not go play these games if you like them so much instead of bothering other?
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>>376401831
>WOW BEST GAME EVER
>lmao why would this be harder than skyrim like wtf why would it be as hard as those nerd games lol
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>>376400643
>didn't think Velen could be any more depressing
>find area full of cannibal bandit camps on second playthrough
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>>376401854
You mean like classic RPG's like BG, Torment etc? Where nearly every fight needs to be calculated or you're fucked? Worked back in the day but I guess the standard now calls for voice actors etc which reduces the size of the game, or increased budget.
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>>376398797
>I can't think of any other game with the sheer amount of detail and depth that The Witcher 3 has.

lol depth, what a bunch of horseshit. Detail as in environmental detail sure, but not much else.
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>>376399439
>damn, I look old
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>>376401864
I loved w2 more than any other rpg prior to w3
I was really upset w3 was announced to be open world since I hated skyrim but they proved me wrong.
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>>376398797
What depth?
There's not a single challenging or complex quest in the entire fucking game.
The entire game is a 120 hour long tutorial that treats the player like some retard and doesn't trust you with anything, every single thing you do is given to you in a silver plate.
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>>376402098
Disable witcher vision if you are so great.
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>>376401803
>>no upper cases detected
u. gona. cry. u. faget. cunt
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>>376402052
They proved you wrong by making a Ubisoft open world game without tower climbing?
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>>376399482
People are allowed to have prefferences, and using insults means you lost already. But I do agree with the second part of your statement.
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>>376402147
Yeah, disable witcher vision and break the game because like this webm pointed out
>>376399870
you need to use the Batman vision to advance in every single quest and nothing gets marked unless you use the Batman vision.
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>>376401803
He didn't even use 'game' as a verb anywhere in that post...
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>>376402052
>but they proved me wrong
Fuck yeah, another monster nest that is exactly the same as all the previous ones! This open world is awesome, who needs actual handcrafted worlds?
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>>376402190
AC2 and brotherhood are top 10 games for me.
But they have almost nothing in common, but go ahead define "ubisoft open world".
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Why are people so fucking salty about The Witcher?
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>>376402253
>i don't want to look at polygons with blurred textures when i game
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>>376402253
You're a fucking idiot
Stop using ellipses as well you cunt
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>>376401916
I meant exactly what I said. You haven't spent 30 mins in-game on the highest difficulty. and 160 hours in game on your steam is not proof that you aren't playing on the easiest setting.

bet you cropped that photo so the reddit tabs were hidden.
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>>376402273
Because it's success has doomed the RPG genre.
Now all future RPGs will handhold you through everything, and they will all have Eagle Vision.
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>>376399464
While roaming around I killed Winnie the Poh, got a quest that allowed me to talk to roach(and see the devs poke fun at themselves), but the main quest is lacking, other than bringing back one of my favorite characters from the booksthe ending is pure shit though, other than the boss fight
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>>376402242
Is this true?

It is required?
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>>376402263
>define "ubisoft open world"
Every open world that marks points of interest on the map before you actually find them.
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>>376401884
More like they will tell you why CDPR got them right only with the third game, kek.

For instance, Radovid planned to go full hitler already as a child. He knew from the start what Philippa did. The witch hunts are mentioned in the books. The Radovid we saw in the first game was probably just waiting for the right time.
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>>376402364
And what do you call an open world where the poi's are hidden? Like how I play witcher 3 with pois disabled on the map.
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>>376402263
An open world that marks absolutely everything, making exploration pointless, and that it's packed to the brim with meaningless fluff like loot and completely simple and unchallenging quests, with the only purpose of adding padding to the game.
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>>376402263
>define "ubisoft open world".
>climb tower to reveal points of interest
>points of interest are just samey locations where you do the same shit again and again
>collectibles everywhere
>>376402431
Shit in a different way
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>>376402290
Ah, i'm that guy. i'm so sorry that your autism doesn't allow people to simplify their words. In future I will say "when i play video games" instead of "when i game" because it's such a big fucking deal.
>>376402334
kill...
your...
self...
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>>376402336
Spam quen, use the ability to have 20 minute long health regen objects active and don't be fucking retarded to know how to counter.

>bet you cropped that photo so the reddit tabs were hidden.
Excellent argument.
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>>376402337
>all future rpgs
You mean some 100mil budget AAA games that need to sell 3mil copies to break even.
Nothing prevents smaller studios making niche games that target a smaller market.
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When I played Gothic 1+2 when I was younger, it was pretty difficult. But there's nothing that stands out as being hard. Like a boss, for instance. It was just sometimes you'd encounter a strong enemy and get one-shot. Or something similar.

fast-forward to adulthood, I played witcher 3 ng+ death march and it was a lot more challenging.
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>>376402542
Exactly, and Triple A games, the ones with enough budget to polish everything, will be casualized to death.
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>>376398797
Agreed. Absolutely loved it.
Toussaint is too damn pretty
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Reminder that soulsbornefags are still mad and will never cease to be, because their shitty yamato master race game lost goty to a fucking DLC made by slavs.
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>>376402535
>wasting a skill slot for health regen bullshit when decoctions exist
>using quen, ever
>using counter instead of dodge + attack
I'm not the guy saying you played on easy but you play like shit regardless
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>>376402575
Not everything is about combat.
TW3 quest design for example is absolute garbage because it spells to you exactly what you have to do.
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>>376402630
Soulsbornefags don't give a damn about Witcher at all.

From the look of this thread, it's a bunch of Gothic fags for some reasons.
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>>376402630
No, Dark Souls is the other side of the coin that has ruined the RPG genre forever.
On one side there's WRPGs like Skyrim, Fallout 4, ME Andromeda and TW3, and in the other FFXV, Soulstrash and Nier Automata.
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>>376402535
>Spam quen, use the ability to have 20 minute long health regen objects active
that's witcher 2 you idiot lol
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>>376402685
>it's a Gothic fag for some reason.
ftfy, pretty sure there's just one salty shitposter
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>>376402636
Why?
It works perfectly.
Never had to touch potions, oils or anything.

>>376402735
And TW3
>lol
Of course.
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>>376402575
A bunch of black goblins in first Gothic is stronger than any enemy in witcher 3.
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>>376402395
>CDPR got them right only with the third game

They didn't, the game characters have nothing to do with the book characters.
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I get the feeling underageb&s these days don't even know what exploration is supposed to be like cause every fucking game has to have copypasted PoIs that are marked on the map
Shit, even Witcher 2 had you actually exploring the forest to find monster nests for a contract
>>376402685
Probably because Gothic games have the best open worlds ever made in vidya history
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>>376402652
If you want different quest design you always have runescape or sherlock holmes games.
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>>376399642
as someone who loves TW3 and will defend it to death I think the story for BaW was actually ass, especially compared to the excellent story of HoS. Both the sisters came off as giant cunts by the end who you wanted to see lose, not win.

plus dehtlaff was an autistic retard who acted irrationally in a way that detached me from the story, and theres no way to help him or prevent your bro from getting screwed over without screwing yourself.

I honestly feel like HaS had some different writers entirely than the rest of the game and the writers were some SJWs fresh outta liberal arts school since the queen sisters are very obvious "feminist" chatacters and geralt all the sudden tells everyone that women can do whatever they want in the 13th century when he didnt act like that before.

On the other hand the sidequests and area are amazing so that makes up for it
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>>376402348
yeah thats the point of the webm, you dont get the option to intreact with the clues unless you activate scooby doo vision

things like that and the skyrimfied open world question markers are a symptom of the game geting dumbed down to appeal to a wider audience, it wouldnt be nearly as much of a big deal if you could customize it more and this has me worried about 2077.

I think CDPR has grown too fast in too short a timeframe
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>>376402759
ng+ death march detlaff teleports behind every black goblin in gothic and pssh nothin personnels all of them at once.
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>>376398797
Witcher 3 is incredibly top because it's attention to the worlds detail is pretty incredible. They don't call things cities like that Soulsborne gookshit without adding things that actually make something a fucking city. Also so using many folklore monsters I've never heard before and not the bland DND stuff like gobs.
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>>376402821
Check out the credits, the writers for Blood and Wine are the same of the main game.
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>>376402758
>Why?
It works perfectly.
Never had to touch potions, oils or anything.

of course you didn't have to touch them, its because your difficulty was on the lowest.
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>>376402821
>geralt all the sudden tells everyone that women can do whatever they want in the 13th century when he didnt act like that before
He says the exact same thing to Shani you fucking retard
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>>376402821
If you have all the time some reason to do a thing and its enjoyable is it really ass?
I mean the game is made out of hundreds of small stories that are enjoyable, how much time do you spend time thinking about the overall plot?
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>>376402887
So, you keep repeating that in hopes of an argument popping out of existence?
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>>376398797
>mfw Gwent was slated to not be in the game because CDPR simply couldn't dedicate any time to it, only for devs to work in their free time on the mini-game so it made it in for launch
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>>376402714
What games do you even enjoy anymore?

Indie game?
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>>376402812
Or I can check actual RPGs.
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>>376401286
>In the Witcher 3 you are tasked with finding Ciri. Now to start the game off you have a very weak lead to another person who may have a general idea where Ciri is.
sounds like main quest of Gothic 3

>When there is 7 different ways to obtain entry to the city/obtain a pass.
there's at least 7 different ways to enter the city of Khorinis in Gothic II, and even more to enter the Upper City District
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>>376402954
>2011+6
>enjoying games
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>>376402714
>No, Dark Souls is the other side of the coin that has ruined the RPG genre forever.

how, exactly?

Even if you dont like the series theres been like fucking 2 other triple A games ever made that use its mechanics so I dont see how it couldve ruined everything

I'm talking about Lords of the Fallen and Nioh by the way, if youre counting NieR Automata because of its online I'm going to punch you
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>>376402954
>the only games that exist are AAA, /v/ FOTM, or indie games
ebin
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>>376403060
Did he miss patreon text based porn games or what?
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>>376402916
overall the DLC isnt bad no, I just didnt care for its story.

Also its story was going somewhere good but ended in a really poor and unsatisfying manner. Its just hard to complain when everything else is so good but it puts the first DLC above it for me.
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>>376402861
This map makes it look like Novigrad is the most northern city in the world when half teh northern kingdoms are located to the north of it
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>>376402630
I don't know about it. It's more of a problem because people don't know shit about what they're talking about. Skyrim, Witcher 3 and Souls games are different games with vastly different priorities, for example. People just see "RPG" and lump them all together.
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>>376403054
Dragon's Dogma
People always compare it to Souls for some reason even though it's entirely different
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>>376398797
Yes, it is the best game ever made, it pushed the envelope in so many areas and so far, fucking huge Publishers (EA,Activision,UbiShit etc)are afraid to make shit tonne of clones(as is case in any game that was slightly original/and or had some new gameplay mechanic and had garizzillion copies 2 weeks later:doom=fps ,c&c=RTS,tomb rider=tps,wow=MMOs etc...) because they can't really do it, what with all their money and all their analytic reascrh of market, all those measures of how gamer feels every second of playing, they are actually unable to make an really great game because they think its possible to make a game with some recipe.
You either got it or you don't, you either get it or you don't, no amount of money, tricks, nice design ,good programmers etc can help you if you don't get the gamer(and try to take a measure of a gamer).
CDPR despite great marketing and all that, did actually made a game with sincere passion and a game they would like to play, and it shows,despite all business bullshit and cave in to needs of mainstream console audience, despite all that, they managed to push one last great game.
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>>376401469
>Gothic players are so nooby they don't even know it's of the lead directors of the witcher games favourite game.
So?
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>>376403124
it came out at around the same time is probably why

people used to compare Dark Souls to Skyrim. People are retarded, just ignore them.
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>>376403101
getting more and more ebin my friend
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>>376403147
The Witcher 3 is nothing but a Ubisoft open world game made by very smart investors.
TW3 has done nothing that wasn't done before, it's just an RPG easy enough to not confuse people because, who wants a challenge?
It's a game that almost plays itself.
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>>376398797
>it's witchercucks trying to assert that TW3 is still relevant

Sorry but BOTW easily BTFO TW3. The former is the best open world RPG atm. Better exploration, open world, gameplay, combat, story, quests, you name it.
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>>376403124
So Dragon's Dogma is this god-tier RPG you have been touting?
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>>376399439
This mod would be great if he had some wounds ( he was hit in a head a lot over his carrier),lacerations, bitemarks etc.
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>>376403218
Please tell me some good non-Ubisoft open world game made nowadays.

inb4 BOTW
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>>376401286
>Now gothic players, when they reach this part they give up because they are too casual.
>Witcher 3 players calling anyone else casual
the fucking irony
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>>376403147
It's just too bad that companies always need to grow, cyberpunk will put even more focus on a boring open world and start putting less focus on the writing
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DLC that should have already been in the game is free.
Expansion packs that had just as much work done on them as the base game are fairly under priced compared to a more popular game like Fallout 4.
In other words, fuck fallout 4.
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>>376403229
I'm not him.
I hated Dragons Dogma and it's vastly over rated.
Sure, flashy combat, but that's all there is to it.
One of the emptiest open worlds ever with a laughable enemy variety.
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>>376402935
this isn't an argument at all, so i'm not looking for one. you said the game was easy and I told you why you were correct, because you had it on the lowest difficulty setting.

That is not an argument.
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>>376403220
People have to emulate wii u to play it on pc so its not ideal. Kinda pointless to compare exclusives to multiplats anyway.
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>>376402781
>They didn't, the game characters have nothing to do with the book characters.
The characterization in the games is basically a copypaste of the one in the books. They even quote straight from the books to describe the personality of Geralt, Yennefer, Dandelion and many, many others.
Saying otherwise only proves that you didn't read the books.
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>>376403324
So yes, your entire argument relies on a complete asspull.
Yes anon, your modern Triple A game with Bam Ham combat, Batman vision and where everything is spelled for you is not casual at all.
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>>376403350
Describing personalities isn't really how characterization works, anon. It's about what a character says and does (and thinks if it's first person or an omniscient narrator)
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>>376403220
fuck off nintenbro

first of all I'm sitting here on my comfy emulator with a pirated copy at a consistent 30FPS while youre struggling to run your game at 20, you wasted your money on that joke of a system

secondly story isnt a focus in BotW at all, its a game focused on exploring and dicking around and its not even an RPG, so to compare it to an RPG like The Witcher 3 where your focus is doing witcher tasks constantly is retarded.
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>>376403350
What?
Geralt in the books is an ugly, jaded dickhead who doesn't care about anything but money, yet the games push you to make him a moralfag and made him basically white haired Big Boss.

Also, CDPR is the one who made Ciri being able to stop the White Frost, which is completely fucking retarded.
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>>376403413
>you wasted your money on that joke of a system
Isn't it on WiiU as well? Not saying that system is less of a joke but at least he maybe didn't buy an entire console just for Zelda
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>>376403413
Ah yes, forgot that the moment a game focuses on the plot, you have an excuse to remove challenge and exploration.

Sounds like modern RPGs should simply die before they become an even bigger joke.
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>>376403460
both the Switch and WiiU are wastes of money.

it runs even worse on the WiiU as well
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>>376403443
>Geralt in the books is an ugly, jaded dickhead who doesn't care about anything but money
So you read like what, the very first short story and nothing else?
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>>376403220
>Comparing Nintendo to the rest of the market
I don't see Nintendo as competing with anyone, they're in their own bubble unlike the rest of the industry. True it's a great game, but I still personally preferred W3.
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what's more overrated nier or witcher 3
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>>376403486
Any hardware with the purpose of playing post-2006 videogames is a waste of money.
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>>376402812
>>376402842
>>376403009
>>376403163

Actually, that is touching really complex problem in the current time that will only get bigger in the future. We live in age of technological boom. Informations and getting it are easy day by day. Peoplejust Google shit and find info - even if it may be wrong 25% of time. It brings up that half of society are lazy and will be even more lazy in the future. Imagine the next 60 years. The info manipulation even on current net is fucking becoming cyberpunk shit tier of thing.

The games ain't getting harder. They will be getting simpler because people are getting massive waves of simple, not really forcing anything kind of entertainment. Where west is becoming easier, the Japanese guys get harder. (BUT I don't say they are better, quality is something I live out of this)
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>>376403508
Thats not even in the very first short story. Theres not the slightest indication of that what so ever. In fact he turns down 3000 orens in that one.
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>>376399516
Check this one, you know this site is +18.
FF as the name implies is your final fantasy before growing up, first one you played is usually the best one for you .
Later on, if you still play games, you either play stuff like TW3 that at least tries to be interesting to people who seen it all or you go full Nintendo.
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>>376403324
The difficulty doesn't have much to do with anything other than the amount of damage you take and higher enemy health. Spamming op potions and decoctions and countering and dodging are all easily exploitable on any difficulty. I love Witcher 3 but unless the difficulty changed enemy behavior/tactics or changed major aspects of the game, you don't have an argument either.
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>>376403409
It does not only stop to descriptions. Actions and behavior as well are identical. That's a fact. Characters in the books and games are basically one and the same.
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>>376400925
i played on death march the first time i fire up the game. i was level 3 with starter gear, and i destroyed the botchling doing nothing but triangle x triangle x alternating like this. then i look around and see that most people say that this boss is among the hardest in the game and in general early game is hard and it just gets easier and easier as you level.
conclusion? any person who says that it is a hard game is so bad at gaming it is beyond my comprehension. oh and in case you do not believe me i can gladly show you footage. i actually have the fight saved because i had a friend tell me how hard the game is and i just had to open his eyes.
(oh and i was hunting down skull packs of mobs and same deal, utterly demolish them with that 2 button cycle lol)
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>>376403481
>remove challenge
if you can beat the game on Death March without taking the time to grind out recipes for oils and potions I will suck your dick
>exploration
Just because its open world doesnt mean that has to be a focus. You're roleplaying as a Witcher, he's a guy who has to get shit done, he's not some chumplefuck kid who has the free time to run around playing with leaves and sticks. The open world in Witcher 3 is there for the immersion and it works, not the exploration and free roaming like other games.
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>>376398797
Notice whenever a "is witcher 3 the best game of all time?" thread is made, the thread is filled with about a 50/50, yes/no ratio.

Also notice, how all the people that say no, never offer up a better game. Except the 2 neckbeards that still think Gothic 1 is good. If Witcher 3 is such a casual game, why can't any offer up a better game?

(Not just this thread either, every Witcher 3 thread. I've never seen anyone offer up a better game, that a majority of people go "yeah that's correct"

I did enjoy Witcher 3, but imo it was clear that there were some parts that screamed they were developed by a small slavic team without much experience. But in the overall experience of the game, minute problems.
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>entire game is about finding the biggest Mary Sue ever
>you do this by completting depthless, almost insultingly easy ''quests''
>the only remote challenge is fighting some enemy that overlevels you
>the tedious as fuck scavenger hunts you need to do unless you want to look like you are running around in fucking pijamas
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>>376403486
WiiU owner here. I bought it on WiiU, but the real reason I bought the WiiU back in the day was for Monster Hunter, which I did 1.5k hours-ish on. Still doesn't justify the purchase because it's a pile of shit, and the Switch is just WiiU2.0.
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>>376403375
>your entire argument
he's agreeing with you, anon. Albeit he's being a smart ass.
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>>376403634
>if you can beat the game on Death March without taking the time to grind out recipes for oils and potions I will suck your dick
Why do that when you can just overlevel quen and become constantly vulnerable?

>Just because its open world doesnt mean that has to be a focus
Then don't have an open world if you are not going to do anything out of it.

>The open world in Witcher 3 is there for the immersion
I felt pretty immersed in TW2, but then again, TW2 had actual decent writing.
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>>376403350
They're completely different.
In the books Ciri was an agressive and selfish cunt, in the game she's a perfect mary sue and literally the "Chosen One".
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>>376403618
I mostly agree (there's some slight differences obviously), I just wanted to tell you that flat-out describing a personality is not characterization. Especially since all the journal entries have the conceit of being written by Dandelion
>>376403602
You're technically right, but that really only applies in one direction. If you play the game on DM and get good at dodging enemies forever while exploiting openings, you can play on any other difficulty without changing your style of play
If you play on a lower difficulty, you can just spam attacks while ignoring the enemies attacking you, and that doesn't translate to successful combat on DM
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>>376399135
Must have mod is something called friendly hud. Set it so health only shows up on change, minimap and objectives only show up on Witcher senses. Enable the little objectives in game world asterisk. Hide everything else.
Makes it so much more immersive, made the game twice as good for.me.
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I wish 90% of witcher threads weren't bait.
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>>376403625
>vsed botchling overleveled and beat it
congrats most of us did that. most people found that fight hard because they were casuals and weren't expecting to fight something at all.
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>>376403850
I wish ALL POSTS aren't 90% bait
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>>376403648
It's souls players, I'm one of them. I have 300+ hours in TW3 and mostly loved it. But, I have 1000+ hours in DS1, no idea how many hours in BB and around 600 hours in DS3.

It boils down to taste and if the players taste is discerning enough to enjoy both styles.
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>>376403625
I'm interested, care to show the video?
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>>376403587
Does he? Time to reread the books I guess, all I remember is that he's a dick to everyone and sacrifices the guy who laid the curse to the Striga
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>>376402652
I keep hearing this, possibly from the same person who created that Gothic jpg about the orc guard. Completely ignores the fact that every quest in the Witcher 3 provided a means by which to influence the narrative, along with multiple avenues through which to interact with NPCs (persuade, kill, pay them off, hustle through a game of cards, develop axxi, win a two on one fist fight to win their respect).

>because it spells to you exactly what you have to do
Which is rubbish. Quests like Towerful of Mice, Wild At Heart, On Death's Bed, and Ghost in the Tree provide multiple ambiguous scenarios with unexpected results
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>>376401056
>the quest are bad because i say they are
the quests in both games are good, just because you value one kind over another doesn't make it automatically better.
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>>376400619
>>The only way you can affect the world in any way is through dialogue choices

,..What other games allow you to affect the world aside from dialogue choices? Because you could make the same complaint for virtually any other game. Destructible environments are not a thing yet.
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>>376403634
>if you can beat the game on Death March without taking the time to grind out recipes for oils and potions I will suck your dick
I beat the game without a single green skill and without ever having used any oils
Only ever used swallow a couple of times as well
In the release version where Igni stunlocked almost everything
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>>376403921
>sacrifices

Nope, that was an accident, he was used as bait which went wrong. I think that was someone else though.
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>>376403054
That gookshit is a big blemish to western fantasy games
>Incredibly vague and edgy lore
>"Monster" variety is just deformed people and giant knights
>no beastiary so you don't even know what the fuck they're called
>too special to use coins as a currency so they use souls
>Dragons up the fucking ass, there are many other winged beasts like Griffins or manticores
>armor looks nice but does bsolute fuck all in terms of protection
And shit that's not even covering how empty and dead the worlds are.
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>>376403954
>every quest in the Witcher 3 provided a means by which to influence the narrative

Whoah man, holding down Batman vision and following the red shit sure blew my mind with it's incredible depth and range of choices.
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>>376398797
I enjoyed 2 more
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>>376404025
Well I'm gonna reread all the books. But it was definitely the guy who cursed her
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>>376403954
>Which is rubbish. Quests like Towerful of Mice, Wild At Heart, On Death's Bed, and Ghost in the Tree provide multiple ambiguous scenarios with unexpected results
I'm not talking about choices, i'm talking about the quests themselves.
You are always described perfectly well what to do, where to go, when to use Witcher vision, when to use a power, absolutely everything is given to you in a silver plate, the only time the game doesn't hold your hand is when making some choice, and even then, very few have any actual effect on anything.
The quest where Radovid asks you to find Philippa and you retrieve her megascope, for example.
You can give that megascope to Triss, Yen or Radovid, yet nothing comes out of this.
So, quests that hold your hand, and choices that may or may not have any kind of effect?
This isn't how an RPG is supposed to be.
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>>376404056
The batman vision really is one of the worst aspects of the game but its there so Geralt can figure out what kind of monsters he is dealing with, or solve some kind of crime and shit, although I dont know why this couldn't have just been something he does himself in a cutscene. Some people like it, but its just too easy and direct to have any sort of major gameplay impact.
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>>376403983
>What other games allow you to affect the world aside from dialogue choices?
Every rpg where you can kill NPCs.
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>>376403756
Nope, she wasn't only that. Her character actually went to various phases in the books. From lovely little girl, to edgy teenager, to mature young adult. In the games, for consistency with the books, she pretty much shows the same behavior she was characterized with at the end of the last novel. But you get to see a few of her "little girl" moments (during flashbacks) and even some Falka moments (I.e. when she threatens Whoreson's bouncers or steals the horses).
The truth is that CDPR went an extra mile to ensure that characterization, lore and setting are as close as possible to the books. Only a few minor slips exist, and they are there to grant consistency with the previous games (i.e. the possibility of romancing Triss) or for gameplay reasons (I.e. wild hunt being physical rather than wraith projections).
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>>376403413
>>wasted your money on that joke of a system...
Even though Switch gets the best exclusive lineups in its first year alone as compared to other platforms? Also,

>paying CEMU to pirate
El oh fucking el, mate.
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>>376398797
Only in a world where there are no other games whatsoever, and then it still comes in second.
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>>376404178
>Kill story NPC
>You can't progress the game anymore, sorry.
Yep, some old school rpgs where really good.
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>>376404112
As if Gothic 2 is a master game of choice and consequence, or story for that matter.

Its known for its open world and weird/challenging control and some sim like features (cooking meat animation).

Outside of that, it's very barebone game with nothing to say.

The first game, while superior, also boils down to a structure at the end that you cannot deviate.
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>>376403905
Thanks for the post, some actual insight. I do feel liek there is some kind of elitist or "everything else is shit" mindset with Souls players (i've only played a couple mins of souls 3 at friends house, but played a shitload of bloodborne) I like the concept/design of souls/bloodborne but the gameplay isn't something I enjoy (inb4 git gud) it's not about skill to me, it's just that after countless hours I can't help but feel like instead of grinding for gear/loot/experience i'm more so just grinding to memorize fight patterns. At first I loved that I was getting frustrated when i got sent back to the start/checkpoint, but after I think 50 or so hours, it became the normal thing and felt like I wasn't really "playing" the game, if that makes sense. Like it was feeling too methodical for me to have fun in a sense. Which is a shame, because apart from that, I absolutely love the art style/aesthetic/level design/enemies etc etc.
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>>376404208
It's worth it if you're a Nintenbro. I grew up so I don't really enjoy any of those games anymore. Mario Kart and Zelda are the only exceptions, the rest of the games are shit.
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>>376404291
Memorizing fight pattern is all you ever do in action game.
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>>376404281
No to mention you're lucky to see more than 5 NPC's on screen.
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>>376404031
>"Monster" variety is just deformed people and giant knights
Yeah, western fantasy games never does it
>And shit that's not even covering how empty and dead the worlds are
>Yeah there are monster on the street let go out there and party wooo
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>>376403305
Fuck sake, you all should download UAE(Amiga emulator), find a game called Perihelion(absolutely great RPG with great payoff) or Dreamweb and then throw word casual around.(at least check em on YouTube, I bet it would be too complicated for you all to play it)
These games are childhood games of CDPR developers(core ,upper management), they were 12-17 years old while playing this type of games.
For a person who played Amiga/pc games in ~90, every game is casual bullshit.
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>>376404291
Souls is about muscle memory and even when you get it, you still make mistakes, especially in PvP or challenge runs, so it has incredible lasting power.

Neither game is for everyone, but high octane dragon dildo pounding games can get tiring and story RPGs or silly games fill that gap.
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>>376404291
I'm the same as you. I played DS1, didn't enjoy it for the same reason but I thought I'd give it another chance when Bloodborne came and I preferred the combat, felt quicker and enjoyed completing it.

It's not a gamestyle I prefer though, especially since I work so when I play games I want to get something out of it with the time I put in. Souls series is more trial and error, muscle memory after playing it again and again.
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>>376404539
The favorite games of the devs don't matter much when they're forced to make games for casuals and dudebros.
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>>376404539
gonna look it up now, thanks.
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>>376401056
>gothic-kun still at it
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>>376404031
>"Monster" variety is just deformed people and giant knights
Literally TW3
>Incredibly vague and edgy lore
>white hair no emotion monster hunter killing just for business
>too special to use coins as a currency so they use souls
Why do you give a fuck about coin when everyone is fucking dead?
>armor looks nice but does asolute fuck all in terms of protection
Did you even play the game?
>And shit that's not even covering how empty and dead the worlds are
What? are you talking about TW3?
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>tfw liked Gothic 1/2 and TW1/2/3
>tfw don't really understand the feud between fans of those series
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>>376404291
Yes, Witcherfags and Soulscucks fighting over which of those alleged RPGs is less cancerous.
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>play Witcher 2
>Witcher 2 >>>>> Witcher 1

>jump straight into Witcher 3
>already feel my opinion of Witcher 2 slipping a bit
>starting to remember Witcher 1 more fondly than Witcher 2

I think that it's because Witcher 3 is basically Witcher 2 on steroids with one of the best open worlds. Witcher 2 comes out feeling like a rough draft for Witcher 3, while Witcher 1 continues to stand out on its own.
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>>376404586
Yeah I think that's my biggest annoyance with it overall. I just had my ass kicked for 9 hours at work, i don't want it to happen for another couple hours when I get home and try to fight a Bloodborne boss. I mean, I hate easy games, but I feel it's much more rewarding to go grind/do side quests to become stronger, then beat a boss. Rather than trial and error muscle memory shit for 4 hours to beat 1 boss.
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>>376404539
Cost/budget wasn't an issue back in the day and you could find hidden gems everywhere. Now it's AAA or Indie, there's no middle ground anymore so the passion and wishes of the developer get pushed aside to cater to a wider audience for it sell better.
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>>376404759
I'll not get into another argument about the open world, but Witcher 2 really is the worst in a trilogy of amazing games
It's still a 9/10 at least imo
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Witcher 3 has really good story... the problem is the gameplay. Gameplay is fucking horribly boring, might as well be batman arkham the entire time for how engaging the combat (that you have to do tons of) is. Seriously, I'm like 60 hours in and don't even want to continue because the actual "game" part of the game is boring dogshit.
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>>376398797
Yes, for me anyway, changed my life. /v/ will come up with tired old memes to diss it aka combat is shit, batman senses etc but who the fuck plays a proper rpg for the combat? And if TW3 didn't have the witcher senses the game would take 500+ hours to finish, fuck that. All in all a perfect game, /v/ nerds can reee all they want, they know the truth deep in their hearts
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>>376404683
I like how hard he tried to make TW3 sound good.
I mean, he even said ''look up bestiary and prepare'', almost sounds like something a developer would do in a gameplay presentation in order to make the game look more complex than it is.
Then again, people who talk about Gothic or TW3 aren't interested in RPGs, they just want their cancerous open world trash full of pointless loot to sell.
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>its a /v/ hates a game solely because its popular episode
>its a /v/ tries to pretend that witcher 3 isnt good episode
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>>376404112
An RPG is supposed to provide you with choice, which is what Witcher does. All of this harping on about how not being vague is a flaw makes alongside comments like "combat isn't the only thing that matters." Better, more challenging combat is far more beneficial than designing a game in which the player needs to hunt monsters down without superhuman perception for an hour even though their character is supposed to be an experienced tracker that has it, and yet the game still presents ambiguous situations when warranted by presenting an array of moral and social choices. Choices that actually matter on top of "will I buy the orc's weapon or take it off a dead body."

>This isn't how an RPG is supposed to be
In a tabletop RPG you'd swap out "batman vision" for a perception check.
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>>376404823
I know the truth that game play is god and if a game has bad game play it's going to be a huge chore to play.

You know they have this whole medium of entertainment for people like you? It's called... television.
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>>376404823
2/10 bait, I almost took it seriously.
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>haters still spreading the "witcher 3 combat is bad" meme
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>>376404683
This.
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>>376398797
It was one of my favorite games but now that I'm playing it for the fourth time I'm beginning to notice more and more flaws. Witcher 1 starts off pretty wonky but gets better and better with every chapter. Witcher 3 is the exact opposite, the game starts off very strong but after Kaer Morhen everything just feels unfinished and rushed. The DLC are top tier though. The quests may be well written but they aren't that well executed, most of the time you're just following a quest marker because NPC's always give you vague directions, there's no real exploration to be had and the Witcher sense also prevent you from finding clues on your own so most of the time you're following a railroad and do what the developers want you to do instead of making your own choices. The only choices you have are dialogue choices and not actual gameplay choices.
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>>376404868
I mean, the entire point of why we're saying Gothic 2 is better is because it has a small, hand-crafted world that is actually worth exploring
Lumping that in with the current MAKE IT BIGGER AND WITH MORE COLLECTIBLES meme is just silly
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>>376404868
People actually use the bestiary though because it tells you monster's weaknesses
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>>376404872
It's a good game, but it's not "best game ever".
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>>376404539
>>376404671

While we at it, check Theocracy by same people. It is about Aztec getting warned by Gods 100 years before Spanish come and you have to get ready.
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>>376404903
>alongside comments like "combat isn't the only thing that matters" look absurd.
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>>376404903
And what are those choices that actually matter?
Playing with Ciri on the snow?
Letting her trash a lab?
Doing or ignoring the quest to kill the very evil Saturday morning cartoon villain king who is so evil that he impales people on the street?
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>>376404927
>trying to Aard a shield user
You retarded, son?
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>>376404927
omg this is so casual i bet all you did was press x over and over : ^ )
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>>376404985
Every monsters weakness is john madden on your light attack button throw in occasional dodge. Even on death march the combat is laughably easy.
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>>376404927
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>>376404927
Is this webm supposed to prove those people wrong?
Yes anon, you pressed the trigger to counter attack and then you attacked.
Did you also have a hard time playing Assassins Creed 4?
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>>376404927
Is this supposed to be ironic where you prove the opposite of what you say?
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>>376398797
i believe it's the best all-round game out there. It's the literal definition of jack of all trades but a master of none.
i personally think it was a 10 though or at least a high 9
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>>376405078
I like how you put those spins in there to make it look good, when all you have to do is mantain the quick attack button pressed.

>>376405050
No, you have to press counter and then attack.
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>>376405083
>>376405050
You can do this kind of shitposting with any webm of a game's content :)
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Why does a game either have to be "worst game ive ever played" or "best gsme ever made" with /v/? Can't a game just be decent, good or great? Does it always have to be a fucking extreme?
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>>376405046
Not him, but if you Aard someone with a shield, it can stagger them enough for you to side step and hit them if you get the angle right.
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>>376405167
Yes, TW3 is decent, 6/10.
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>>376404927
looks awful my dude. when you are trying to convince people who have been playing great combat like Monster Hunter and Dark Souls webms like that aren't doing you any favors

choppy animation, no weight to the hits, braindead ai. and also those textures. you could at least play on highest settings if your going to be making webms
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>>376405078
Okay I have a legitimate question about the gameplay instead of shitposting:
How do I make whirl useful? Whenever I try it, it ends up exactly like this webm, with the first hit connecting and the next 2-3 missing while I slowly catch up to the guy who staggered back
It's always better to just spam fast attacks because of that
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>>376405167
''You're not first, you're last'' -Randall Bimby
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>>376405145
>what is "fun"
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>>376405227
Yes, Ubisoft combat is very fun and epic as fuck, reddit.
You know other very fun game?
Mass Effect Andromeda.
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>>376405196
Just use Axii to definitely stun them and get 2 or 3 free hits from the front, bro
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>>376405167
this game is now used as a de facto benchmark for literally all open world games. How could anyone argue that it wasn't top of the line?
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>>376404818
>might as well be batman arkham the entire time for how engaging the combat (that you have to do tons of) is

I ran into some random guy who wanted to give me a side quest and I ended up against a bunch of way overpowered halflings with 1 or 2 guys on my side.

My normal attacks were not doing any damage, however the dwarves were not quite 1 hitting me so I made use of the magic shield-heal power to absorb every other hit.

It took me 5 minutes to figure out that the fire spell caused burning which dealt visible damage to them. Took me at least another 5 minutes of switching out shield and fire to kill like 10 of the little bastards.

Didn't play the game for much longer than that.
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>>376405227
>watching the game is more fun than playing the game
>t. modern day gamer
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>>376405078
>hold x for your player controlled character to kill all enemies on screen
wow amazing game!
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>>376405215
I believe the whirl is supposed to be used in crowds, because it'll last forever as long as you're hitting something, it doesn't matter if your stamina runs out as long as there are enemies getting hit. jesus christ I just repeated exactly what I said.
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>>376405078
>using hard lockon
Haha, controllerfags
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>>376404872
I genuinely wonder if the /v/irgins hate TW3 because geralt is an alpha chad, every time i see
>comBAT IS SHITTT@!!!
>BATMANSENSES!!

i just assume they're virgins who are jealous of a video game character, makes things a lot easier
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>>376405281
I can't lie I'm an Aussie and I made this shitpost. I actually love Witcher 3.
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>>376405265
I think that says far more about the rest of the industry than TW3 itself.
The videogame industry can't crash soon enough and have all these so called 'videogame developers' working in their local kebab shops.
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>>376404323
>>376404724
Witcher 3's enemies are actual monsters, soldiers and cutthroats. Unlike the gooks CDPR knows the crucial difference between knights and soldiers, knights talk like jackasses and are only good for show, not in terms of real danger.
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>>376405258
TW3 combat isn't Dark Souls a game with basically ONLY COMBAT but it's a hell out of a lot better than Ubishit you shitposter. I could post any webm and yoy fags would be "LE SPAM ATTACK BUTTON XD"
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>>376405325
So far we have
>people who unironically type 'lol'
>people who unironically type 'nerd'
and now
>people who unironically use 'virgin' as an insult in /v/

Is this the reddit general?
Are you obese redditors angry because you have no arguments to defend your piss easy 'ideogame'?
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>>376403218
No, ubisoft model of open world games is different, it is a thin line but one feels alive, another is just cardboard cutouts.
All characters in ubi games are like a bunch of hipsters made them while high(and ,I'm saying this in a bad way).
While TW3 did cavein ,as I said,too needs of average ps4/xbone gaymur, they still managed to shove (almost hidden to "modern gamer") decent story, characters you give a shit about (fact that you remember names of more than 5 characters in game one month after you finished playing says a lot), name 5 chars from farcry5, name 4 chars from asscree6, name 3 chars from watchdogs2, you get my drift.
Most newcomers to the game are consolekiddies who got hooked by 18 pegi,mature bullshit, and those ones are only ones who complain bout muh combat,muh batsenses, but in reality, people who played tw1 back in 2007 and started to talk about that game ,didn't care about combat(actually, combat was an chore,an have to do to get to the good stuff), if no catering was needed and number of sold copies was not an issue , there would be maybe 4 or 5fights in the whole game.
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I love TW but i absolute hates those Witcher fags.
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>>376405325
So you ad hominem instead of considering their view point? That kind of makes you a complete dumb fuck.
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>>376405307
In crowds I stil have the problem of moving too slowly while whirling, because enemies usually know to keep their distance so you never just slice through them, you just hope they jump into your attack
I mean, it does give you slightly bigger DPS against big-ass bosses who won't stagger back, but that's not really worth an entire skill slot for, especially since you usally need to dodge away before even spending all your stamina
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>>376405325
They hate it because its the game that won most GOTYs in the history of games.
Contrarianist /v/ desperately needs to hate anything that's popular.
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>>376405338
it's a billion dollar industry anon. It ain't crashing any time soon.
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>>376405401
It's actually a Ubisoft game made by very smart investors.
It follows the same structure as an Ubisoft open world game, but once every 10 hours you might get a choice that affects the final, ME3 Extended Cut-tier slideshow ending.
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I prefer BioWare games to this Soviet misogyny and gay bashing simulator for dominant privileged white males with a hard on for Hitler.

Fuck you, your game is shit, your thread is shit and no one cares about it and your orange president sucks.
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>>376405381
>knights were the most well trained medieval warriors
>wearing extremely expensive armor that made them tanky and hard to kill
>rode horses and knew how to use every weapon
>were the only professional soldiers of the medieval world

Uh...
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>>376405381
yeah troll never seen it before
soldiers and cutthroats? never seen it before in my lucky go happy generic fantasy medieval game.
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>>376405414
Geraly, Yen, Triss and Ciri.
Those are the ones I remember.

Videogames are just incapable of having decent writing.
Hell, if Ciri was ugly she would be a perfect candidate to be in Mass Effect Andromeda.
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>>376405027
"Playing with Ciri in the snow" and "letting her trash a lab" are indeed choices that allow the player to have a major effect upon the main plot, along with either accepting or rejecting Emyr's reward, but there are also choices such as choosing to continue looking into the werewolf quest line after being told not to, trusting the plague maiden despite the hints you can find with the magic lamp to do otherwise, deciding not to charge the first peasant you meet for the Griffin, allowing Triss to be tortured, killing Kiera Metz (and potentially letting Lambert die), and either choosing to romance either Triss or Yennifer that appear throughout every secondary quest line as well.
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>>376405476
i'm gonna need to repeat that a little louder sir.
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>>376405434
I can always hope.
This industry is letting way too many hacks make a living out of their lack of talent.
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There are so many options to break the game in TW3 that saying just quen and slash shit is just straight out wrong.

Quen and slash shit are early game shit.

You want your invicinble super man build, you go alchemy.

With a specific skill, your potion's effects would not wear off, granting you actual invincibility.
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>>376405381
>actual monsters, soldiers and cutthroats
>something something born from dead people
The fuck are you even talking about?
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>>376405502
W3 is clearly similar to the Renaissance era, m8. I know people keep throwing around the phrase "Medieval fantasy", but that's just because the average American doesn't know there's a difference
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>>376405406
>>376405417
Ahh the virgins show themselves, always a surefire way to bring the disgusting creatures out of the woodworks, does geralt make you angry lil fellas
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I couldn't fuck Ciri
1/10
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>>376405590
No, I feel completely indifferent towards him.
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>>376403220
Hmmm, this pic actually says a lot, in upper left corner is the answer.
Best Zelda evah, as if that game was compared to other Zelda's exclusively.
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I dont underatand how people can play Dragon Age in an era where the Witcher games exist. Literally does everything they do but just 10x better.
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>>376405575
Like who give a fuck?
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>>376405590
Geralt doesn't make me angry, he's a boring everyman character with a 50 year old smokers voice. He's pretty much the most dull character in the entire game.
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>>376405676
Some people can't enjoy RPGs without character creation for their self inserts.
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>>376405539
People also forget the many, many choices in sidequests, which are the main draw of TW3 anyway. There's even one quest where a group of monsters evaluate you based on times you could've chosen to save monsters in the past. It was a sidequest affected by your choices in other indepedent sidequests, which is amazing. TW3 is one of the few games that gets player choice righl
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>>376405676
What I don't understand is how people can play post-2005 RPGs.
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>>376405684
geralt is literally a Persona MC with beard. There is nothing amazing about him, just a bland figure for people to self insert.
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>>376405696
>There's even one quest where a group of monsters evaluate you based on times you could've chosen to save monsters in the past
which quest?
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>>376405626
jesus, typical threatened virgin response

>>376405684
You're proving my point so well that its making me hard, don't worry little fella you'll lose your virginity one day (unlikely)
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>>376405572
>Superstition
Only actual thing "born from dead people" are wraiths. All the Necrphages are a sifferent species.
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>>376405840
It's just another "deformed" people
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>>376405838
>this is considered a bait in 2017
Shitposting used to be an artform, but like videogames, it's now just shovelware-tier, run into the ground ideas.
I miss shitposting that had some work put into it.
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>>376405838
You seem obsessed with people being virgins. Sounds like you should go pay for an escort and lose your virginity.
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>>376405502
Not all knights where like that. Many "knights" where just nobles that never wore armor outside of parades or saw combat during their lifetime.
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>>376405915
This is the most reddit post ive read this year.
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>>376405804
Not that anon, but it has to do with a godling from the haunted house iirc, but one of them. When you first get into the city, you find a conspiracy to try and kill you with rocks and turns out the godling had gotten a group together of monsters to try and scare you so you'd go away and you either fight them or convince them to let you go and to convince them you give examples of monsters you had chosen to let live in the past.
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>>376405964
Seriously?
Calling people virgins and redditors?
This is shitposting in the CURRENT YEAR?
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>>376405684
>with a 50 year old smokers voice

I pity the fools who had to play with english VA
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>>376405676
The Witcher games has nothing to do with Dragon Age Origins.
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>>376398797
Dark Souls is better.

So is Bloodborne.
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>>376405502
Sure maybe against people but BaW demonstrates Knights are very shit when it comes to real danger to monsters and beasts. That fancy scrap metal steel armor is nothing to the claws of Vampires.
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>>376406041
You are comparing dogshit with horseshit.
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>>376406041
Stop false flagging.
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>>376405915
>reeeeeee he found me out, shit trolling!!!!
jesus i didn't think geralt could anger someone so much

>>376405934
Thats where your wrong anon, i love geralt and are thus not a virgin, i have already proven the theory.
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>>376406024
You haven't heard him desperately try to act differently during the wedding in HoS, it's hilarious
Also, the game was written in English first you faggot
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>>376406063
The whole point of Toussaint is having Don Quixote-like knights who are pretty much good for nothing
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>>376398797
Is pretty good, better then most. Not even close to best ever made.
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>>376406082
>repetition and namecalling
Looks like baiting went to trash roughly the same time as videogames.
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>>376405804
Skellige's Most Wanted. A group of monsters put you on trail basicallly and bring up multiple specific times where you spared or didn't spare monsters. Geralt can even defend his specific choices with unique dialouge and you might be able to win them over. This kind of shit is why TW3 has such a reputation
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>>376406024
In Witcher 2 his english VA was fine, but in W3 it's horrible.
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>>376404993
Check Moonstone from Mindscape.
You will know where some good shit TW has came from.
Fuck, was moonstone ahead of its time.
Also Lost Patrol,Walker,Flashback (I think this one could be playable even for modern standards).
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>>376405840
>different species born from something something with dead people
No different than dorksoul at all
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>>376403625
>destroyed the botchling

you heartless bastard
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>>376398797
It might be better than modern games, but that says far more about modern videogames themselves.
Not even close to being something remarkable if you have the entire industry in perspective.
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>>376406097
I actually did try playing the game in english first but I switched to polish after a short while because his VA sounded like shit in my opinion. Or I just got used to the previous games I guess.
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>>376406082
Do your parents know you post on an adult mongolian knitting board?
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>>376406037
Except being the same style of game but infinitely inferior and more juvenile
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>>376406180
What's "remarkable" then? The (modern game) is good for MODERN GAMES/normie/casuals shit gets old
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>>376406129
>If i post these maymay pictures and use greentext ill outsmart him!

Just stop its already been proven you're a virgin who cant enjoy one of the greatest games of the decade simply because of jealously of a video game character lmfao


>>376406249
check mated, /v/irgins are so easy to expose
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Wait, are there different voice actors for different languages? Why the fuck are all these hollywood frauds getting my tax money then?
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Is there a way to keep Geralts beard from growing? I just want to keep it clean shaven and not have to go cut it every hour.
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>>376406393
Yes if you play on pc
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>>376406393
Mod I think
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>>376406297
Yeah, Polish Geralt sounds 500x better than English Geralt. Too bad I don't want to read 7 novels worth of subtitles so I went with english.
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>>376406282
>What's "remarkable" then?
Deus Ex, or Majora's Mask, for example.

>The (modern game) is good for MODERN GAMES/normie/casuals shit gets old
Agreed, modern cancer has been around for too long, when will videogames become decent again?
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>>376406538
>Deus Ex, or Majora's Mask
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>>376406538
>when will videogames become decent again?

When people stop preordering games based only on hype
When people stop buying shit games
When people grow a brain and do their research before buying games

So, never.
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>>376406538
>Deus ex, or Majora's Mask
You browse too much /v/
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>>376406605
Not that I expected anything but le weeb reaction image.

>>376406638
wtf I love Bam ham combat now
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>>376406656
Yep, you definitely do browse too much /v/. You need to either reduce your useage or stop taking this place and its memes so seriously or you'll end up hating everything over trivial shit because has brainwashed you into believing thats what you have to do to be intelligent.
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>>376406734
True, i'll start ignoring what /v/ says and just laugh at it, starting with you.
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Why is Foltest the Faction Leader of the Northern Realms instead of Radovid?

Radovid:
>united the Northern Kingdoms in the war against Nilfgaard
>is a Character in the game

Foltest:
>was one of the half a dozen Kings that make up the Northern Realms
>Died in the Prologue of the last game
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>>376402630
Master Mirror must have arranged that to pay off an epic bargain involving salty nerd tears for all of life.
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I'm close to finishing blood and wine and hos, I'm scared to. I really don't want the game to end. Already finished main quest and I miss yennefer and them like crazy. Wish there was a mod that brought them back, always felt it was bullshit.
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Anyone else really dislike how you were obviously steered towards picking Cerys for the queen? Her brother is just dumb as bricks and picking him doesn't even allow you to unravel the conspiracy behind the shapeshifter clan.
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>>376406790
Foltest is the bigger draw, Radovidetty never drew a dime
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>>376407017
Theres always some preferred option. The devs imagine a canon story they might use for their future sequel but add optional storypaths.
Kinda like how Yen is the canon romance option while triss is just an afterthought.
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>>376406790
Isn't Radovid like 18?
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>>376406971
New game + wont help?

>>376407017
IF you let sven win, he makes Skellige Great again going against his mothers wishes, no joke.
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>>376398797
maybe try playing other games before jumping to conclusions kiddo
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>>376407209
Sven really is the best choice because he turns Skellige into Denmark.

Too bad it's the no-choice.

But I guess that's the price of neutrality. Really makes me think.
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>>376404927
looks shite tee bee aytch vham
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>>376407209
>IF you let sven win, he makes Skellige Great again going against his mothers wishes.
That's what I hated the most about the game. Choices like this. To get outcome 3, which sometimes is better than 1 and 2, you have to do absolutely nothing, lose a questline, XP and rewards.
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>>376407178
>Theres always some preferred option

Eh, not usually actually. The majority of the big decisions I've made in the game had me thinking about them for a while which is why I was so downtrodden by this "choice". I ended up picking Hjalmar out of spite since Cerys was fucking infallible. I sort of expected him to have an arc and end up not being such an ooga booga and for Cerys to have an arc and end up not being perfect but nah.
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>>376398797
Heart of Stone was perfect tbqh
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>>376407408
Cerys will turn Skellige into a nation of cuck i.e. Sweden.

Hjalmar takes the old way while Sven advances into feudalism.

Best choice is Sven.
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>>376398938
enhanced targeting/disable softlock mod
e3 dodge system
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>>376405072
The werewolf quest may very well be impossible without Cursed Oil. The Nighwraith contract is impossible without Yrden and I had to use Moon Dust bombs on it as well. Enemies on horseback are best dealt with by dismounting your horse and knocking them off with Aard, which, along with Ignis, is also useful for dealing with large groups of enemies. Ignis is invaluable in places with explosive gas such as swamps and is the go to whenever you've been deprived of your weapons for whatever reason. Enemies are best dispatched with a crossbow when swimming and the best strategy to be used against flying enemies is to wait for them to attack, dodge, then counter; you can also use Yrden to freeze them in midair. The combat in Witcher 3 is extremely varied.
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>>376399464
Blood and Wine was my favorite part of the entire game
>>376399642
agreed
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>>376402821
>Both the sisters came off as giant cunts by the end who you wanted to see lose, not win.
>theres no way to help him or prevent your bro from getting screwed over without screwing yourself.

you just described why it's so good you fucking retard
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>>376405215
You can upgrade its range with runewright
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>>376407470
I honestly didn't even consider making Svanrige king because his mother was such a cunt and Crac was such a bro.
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>>376403304
actually that's a perfect example
TW3 is also a good non-ubisoft open world, but that's besides the point
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>>376407710
How is BOTW not non-ubisoft open world again?
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I'm on Blood and Win atm and holy fuck I just want to kill both anna and her sister

>Anna
Family love blinds her to the most obvious, can't tell the bitch to just stfu and just let her meet Deltaff

It's your fucking fault he went nuts anyway

>Synna or whatever her fucking name is
Yeah sure she went through a lot but what the fuck was she thinking trying to manipulate a fucking high vampire

>Deltaff
Fuck you I wanted to keep you alive and not kill you but you had to be autistic and go nuts over some bitch

Fuck this shitty quest fuck both those bitches for fucks sakes why didn't the devs put in some line to tell Anna "hey this wouldn't have happened if you had just listened to me you stupid bitch"

Fuck this I fucking hate this quest fuck you deltaff you autistic pos I wanted to keep you alive
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>>376407756
it shares literally zero fundamental design characteristics with them
>inb4 muh towers
mechanically entirely different
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>>376399439

Your health is low! Do you have any potions or food?
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>>376407796
I see a vast empty world with level-scaled enemies and fucking collectathon bullshit.
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>>376403802
This, it changes the game from a 7+ to a 10-
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>>376407849
>vast empty world
>level-scaled enemies
>collectathon
well none of these describe BotW. Maybe you should play it?
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>>376407796
I'm sorry anon, but BOTW is closer to Ubisoft games than Witcher.
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>>376407930
closer? absolutely. does it resemble them enough in an isolated comparison to matter? no
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>>376407930
actually the way that ?'s in TW3 work is much, much more like a Ubisoft game than the way any exploration mechanic in BotW works
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>>376400881
>B-BUT SONY
Everytime.
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>>376401056
There are some real gripes about Witcher you can make but you literally ruined your own point with the comment about questions marks.

Gothic encouraged you to find out about the world using the quest. Witcher encouraged you to find the quest. Not all those question marks were quests, and you couldn't just fast travel to them. Thus you explore, learn the area, and develop an appreciation for the details.
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>>376406605
>shitting on Deus Ex

Ppffft, contrarians.
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>>376404868
>he didn't use the bestiary

What difficulty did you play on? I literally had to do that or else I'd get fucked in two hits by the enemy usually.
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>>376405072
That's a blatant lie. Some enemies are nigh impossible to defeat without their oils like werewolves.
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>>376408752
>Witcher encouraged you to find the quest
not even close to true at all

almost every sidequest or contract is available from a board or a person of interest that isn't at a ? place. Almost every ? on the map is a useless shitty story of a dead person guarding a chest of useless loot. Waste of fucking time.
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>>376403802
>>376407856
The problem with playing with UI stuff off is that the game was not designed for it.

It's not like morrowind where they actually give you directions or you actually have a way of taking an educated guess or finding out stuff. In here they don't say shit because they assume you are just gonna check your map.
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>>376405564
Just get gourmet for that, my man
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>>376408865
First on Normal, then on Death March.
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>>376409094
not true at all

turn off ?, turn off the minimap except leave a hotkey to bring it up when necessary, and you have a game that is inherently better than the default setup
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>>376409049
>what are places of power, giving you free skill points
>people in trouble/in bandit camps
>Abandoned buildings with monsters infesting the towns, adding to environment
>monster dens and nests
>I found a shitty reward one time so I'm going to ignore all the other possibilities

That's good game reviewing mate.
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>>376407780
If Syanna was the main protagonist you'd be rooting for her, anon.

And you can choose to not fight Detlaff
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>>376407780
That's why the "tragic ending" is best ending. The stupid cunt can deny evidence for so long until it stabs her in the back right infront of her too. I feel bad for those two pikemen that tried to keep Syanna away from the dumb cunt but she was too retarded to let go of "le family" bullshit.
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>>376409276
>>people in trouble/in bandit camps
>>Abandoned buildings with monsters infesting the towns, adding to environment
>>monster dens and nests
these are great things in the open world that should not be marked with a ?
>places of power
also all of them are in geographically significant spots. finding all of them without markers is easy as hell
>i found a shitty reward one time
you found great rewards zero times from completing ? off of a checklist. you just got content that is best discovered by accident when en route to a legitimate quest destination. exploring the world of TW3 with a fine tooth comb offers not a single benefit.
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>>376409394
Missions & stories. Events that give you good gear.,
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>>376409394
>these are great things in the open world that should not be marked with a ?
>aimlessly wandering around without even knowing whether you've been somewhere or not

That doesn't sound even a little bit fun.
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>>376403625
I have the same experience, I.beat the giardian of the witcher gear under the city while he was level ?? to me.
The combat system is just batman whackamole shit and I hate it.
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>>376409371
The issue is if ana dies then the fucking toussaint goes to shit. I want to keep ana because she's a good leader in the sense she knows how to run the place.

But for fucks sakes. I've never wanted a character to die so badly before.
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>>376410086
nope, the only thing that you can counter are humans & humanoid monsters. Their are moves for crowd control, sidestep is best unless a gargoyle does stomp you dodge roll, Combat most definitely does not suck.
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>>376409394
First you said that the game doesn't encourage exploration, now you're saying that it shouldn't

Are you stupid? The map is too big to just say "Go too Crookback Bog to find 'x'" without any help. Back in the day that might have worked, but it rarely can now unless your map either has good landmarks or is very descriptive.
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>>376398797
>Is this the best game ever made?
Here's a list of games better than Witcher 3
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>>376411387
Nah
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>>376411387
Lol this is just a list of /v/ hivemind approved meme games
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Combat is flawed.

Difficulty scaling is flawed.

Story is flawed (ending, radovid's questline and its effect on novigrad).

Enviroment is good, and barely any load screens is impressive.

7/10 game really. A shame cdpr didnt release a redkit3 so that modders could fix its shortcomings.
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>>376407646
I was away so late as fuck response incoming: Doesn't that remove all rune slots? I'm not sure having an actually functioning whirl is better than just fast attacking with 15% bleed chance
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>>376411387
>Meme: The List
this board is dead
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>>376398797
>game
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>>376409792
>>aimlessly wandering around without even knowing whether you've been somewhere or not
>
>That doesn't sound even a little bit fun.
you have ADHD
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>>376410846
littering a map with points of interest is not "encouraging exploration"

and yes, I also believe that the world of TW3 shouldn't encourage exploration for explorations sake. the world isn't built for it. the stories are not discovered like that; they're all on the main paths. exploration in TW3 is just distractions and additional content to fill in the main stories/contracts so the world feels more alive. this is how TW3 succeeds. trying to 100% the map provides no fun or reward at any level
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>>376398890
I like it because it's the slav folklore and monsters. That shit is pretty fucking rare in video games.
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>>376414273
Do yo dispense with a map, GPS, or list of amusement park rides when vacationing in the real world too?
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>>376407385
Not defending or nothing but Witcher path is/should be absolutely neutral and him doing nothing is the choice.
Its annoying that you may not see a portion of the game that way but, its your way, your choices.
Fortunately, game is good enough for a play trough every 2-3 years.
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Is there anyway to make the game load faster on ps4
I made the mistake of buying it on ps4 because i didn't have a good enough pc.

Now i'm stuck on loading screens constant
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>>376410846

And that's why Breath of the Wild is the greatest open world game of all time.
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>map
no I keep it just like in TW3 with friendly hud
>GPS
still have
>list of rides
right, and TW3 doesn't fucking have rides at ?. It has filler content that is only valuable when it appears to be organic while questing the well written handmade quests that are not located at ?. Contracts, sidequests, and main quests with actual stories are all found outside of ? which should only serve as distractions inbetween the """real""" content of the game
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>>376416056
for>>376415517
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>>376416056
It has interesting landmarks, townships, lore, ruins, and monster nests to stumble across. But I don't want to search through a needle in a stack of needles in order to find them. You can enjoy the natural beauty on your way there.
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>>376407470
You could make Sven king?
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>>376398797
>Is this the best game ever made?
No, that's an expansion.
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>>376415558
But Geralt is never neutral. It's one of his character flaws
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>>376416559
>has interesting landmarks, townships, lore, ruins, and monster nests to stumble across
I perfectly agree
>I don't want to search through a needle in a stack of needles in order to find them
I'm sorry but this doesn't even make sense. If you turn off ? then you can just explore the world at ease by visiting natural landmarks and seeing bandit camps from far off and etc etc. There is no more reward for clearing out a monsters next marked with ? than there is climbing a hill to get a decent view. the only difference is that a checkmark has marked on your UI
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>>376416559
Pretty much all the interesting landmarks are tied to some quest
The thing you posted is part of the Griffin Gear treasure hunt I believe, for example
And monster hunts aren't interesting, sorry
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>>376416750
If I turned off ? I likely wouldn't have even found most of those landmarks.

>There is no more reward for clearing out a monsters next marked with ?
For people who care about completing games there is.
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>>376416856
monster nests*
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>>376416886
>I likely wouldn't have even found most of those landmarks
that's fine though. those things aren't "content" they are filler inbetween the rest of the content. there's no good loot, no good stories, just filler. You'd have been better off if monster nests, bandit camps, and ruins were things you discovered through natural exploration while playing through the handwritten content of the game. if you watch dev diaries they explain that this is how it's supposed to be played

>care about completing a game
>care about seeing things marked on a checklist
autism
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No, battletoads is https://youtu.be/f_2XRZTuf0Y
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>>376407514
>e3 dodge system

What does that one change?
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>>376417052
But I need to clear those locations to get alchemy recipes for my Acquired Tolerance
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>>376417052
>autism

Scrub. If I pay sixty dollars for something I want to experience everything in it before I move on.
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>>376398797
It's hard to name one best game because there's different genres and even differences within a genre. Though I'd definitely put Witcher 3 as one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
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>>376417171
>want to experience everything in it
the game isn't designed for that though. It's designed to have enough filler so that you're kept busy from the beginning of the story until the end. you might be getting "everything" but by doing so you're actually missing out on the designed experience. That's like retards trying to get 900 korok seeds in BotW
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Gunther did nothing wrong.
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The combat system is a piece of shit in these games.

Also, I can't stand Geralt. He's some kind of self-insert macho fantasy of a nerd.

They went out of their way to make him as cool as possible, but he just ends up being the wankiest character in existance.
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>>376415558
>Geralt
>Neutral
>ever
Maybe in the Last Wish and Sword of Destiny, his tragedy is that he always has to pick a side despite his profession.
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>>376417314
>the game isn't designed for that though

Every game that isn't a quarter muncher or endless like Animal Crossing has completion in mind. And even quarter munchers have completion as a bragging rights reward and with Animal Crossing a completed museum as a major goal.

The way you speak you might as well just be dumped into a sandbox rather than play (and beat) a game.
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>>376400924
What's wrong with the way Geralt looks?
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>>376417914
>Every game that isn't a quarter muncher or endless like Animal Crossing has completion in mind.
yes, and in TW3 that completion is the story. It's not designed for you to find every crevice and kill every monster and bandit. It just simply isn't.
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It's a good game but suffers from a very mediocre open world. There's little reason to explore because the best stuff is the witcher gear and most worthwhile locations are tied to quests which are easy to find. The witcher gear quests were probably the ones which use the open world the best and they were genuinely fun, but there aren't that many of them. Lots of the content is very ubisoft-like busywork. The combat could have more variety, even having more fights with multiple enemy types would spice it up a lot.

All in all it's a nice quest and dialog centric rpg but not really the open world witcher experience I was looking for. It's a shame because the protag has a profession which prob could work as gameplay even without any plots. I mean, the idea of having a preparation/tool heavy monster hunting gane just would have to work. Unfortunately pretty much all preparation gameplay was dropped from Witcher 3.
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>tfw will never lose my memory and get to experience tw3 with all dlc again
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>>376401717
>But games from before the year of 2005 are almost unbearable to play unless you have nostalgia goggles, which I have grown out of sorry.

You're a pleb, so it's your loss.
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>>376399482
>Medieval fantasy is incredibly broad.
Yes but not as fresh as Bloodborne.
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>the cutscene at the end of Blood and Wine
Witcher 3 destroyed video games. Because I'll never enjoy another video game again.
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>>376418534
this is easily the best ending to a game ever made
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>>376398797
Core gameplay was garbage
Loot system was garbage
Balancing in general is garbage

I don't care how "iconic" or "memorable" the characters or locations were. I didn't enjoy a single second of actual GAMEPLAY in the game. And those fucking collectables in the middle of the sea in skellige? Yeah fuck right off. The devs are great people for the way they supported and priced it but that doesn't make their game any better to me.
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>>376401668
>just play the 100+ hour game several times to start having fun

yeah no.
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>>376418695
>Loot system was garbage
>Balancing in general is garbage
easily modded though. You're right in the idea that left just to the world and the gameplay it really doesn't hold up at all
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>>376418695
>I'm a GAMER and I need epic GAMEPLAY for GAMERS such as myself
autistic fedora
>>
Reminder that /v/ is full of autistic contrarian Reddit fedoras who hate it simply because of its popularity. It's one of the most awarded games of all time, but forever alone spergs on /v/ will just spout the same memes like "haha Dragon Age Inquisition won awards too". The fact remains that W3 is one of the best games ever made and no amount of impotent nerdrage from /v/irgins will change that.
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>>376401286
Funny you say this considering Gothic did dynamic quests and towns in general a million times better than any witcher game.

Witcher handles it like this: quests aren't dynamic. Just do them whenever you like and they don't impact eachother at all unless it's a chain quest. Towns are glorified npc huts with nothing going on aside fro mspecific NPCs standing in specific spots and waiting for you to interact with them.

In gothing you could side with factions and free/murder entire towns. In gothic you could lose or gain multiple entire questlines just by conquering a single.
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>>376418695
i can't imagine you'd ever have any fun if you autistically hunted down every ? mark
i did about 3 before I realised they're copy pasted shit
the combat was good enough to keep me entertained through the main quest + major sidequests + some contracts + any ?'s that were directly in my path
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>>376418018
>It's not designed for you to find every crevice and kill every monster and bandit

And yet there's a checklist and achievement for killing every monster or bandit. I bet you skip bonus bosses too.
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It geniuenly is the best game ever made, there are some that I would place higher but that can be attributed to nostalgia and personal preferences. When inspected objectively there is simple no game as expansive, with the same amount of detail.
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>>376419042
What makes it good?What makes it different from Last of us and the citizen kane of gaming Bioshock Infinite?
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>>376402821
BaW sidequests were great though, and the main story only turns to shit because of the 3-day timeskip, which is like 90% into the main story
the first 2 hours of BaW are some of the best in the game, eveyrthing from the start to regis' introduction/chat in cemetery
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>>376419452
superior writing, setting, character design, worldbuilding, music, gameplay, graphics, the sheer size of it, and the amount of detail and polish put into it
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>>376419452
>What makes it different from Last of us and the citizen kane of gaming Bioshock Infinite?
Good story
Good characters
Better gameplay (than those games at least)
More detail than almost any other game (in animations, environment detail, voice acting)

and on top of having a higher caliber of content than almost any other game, it has an insane amount of it too

Bioshock Infinite is a 10 hour game with broken combat and a story for actual retards. Witcher 3 is a 100 hour game with serviceable combat (can be modded to be good), an excellent story, great characters, impeccable detail, great music, loads of open world exploration, etc. The comparison is a fucking joke.
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>>376411387
This is true. I've had actual fun with some of the games on this list unlike The Borecher 3.
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>>376400643
Why didn't you save him?
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>>376420157
But I did

then on my second playthrough I thought to myself that the children were innocent and even though I sympathized with the Baron he was not. I saved the children.
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>>376420157
The most amazing story I've ever seen in a video game. Any time someone says TW3 has bad writing, you just point them to The Bloody Baron and the argument is instantly over.
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>>376398797
Vlad was a shit character. Other than that i enjoyed my playthrough. Not 10/10.
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>>376413649
>Pac-Man
It's not even that. It's a list arguing that Pac-Man is better than Witcher 3. It's a list arguing that Pac-Man is better than practically any game that's come out since Super Mario Bros 3. It's a bait list.
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>>376420356
It was the main quest with most effort put in by the devs. It had to be good.
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