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How in the fuck did a modern AAA game actually manage to be really good and not casualized at all? I mean holy fuck
>no regenerating health
>no iron sights
>Good writing
>top notch worldbuilding
>not not level design, Talos 1 actually feels like a real place and I can actually explore every nook and crany of the station.

Was the team just allowed to do their own thing by corporate? Because this just might be my personal GOTY
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Because of Bethesda PUBLISHING
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I felt the difficulty was pretty good too.
First time in a while playing a game on normal actually felt anything but easy.
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>>376397853
My only question is will i enjoy it if I loved System Shock 2 but thought Bioshock was meh?
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Got contacted by December, should I meet him first or go through the psychotronics area first?
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>>376398002
Probably not, the entire game felt like space bioshock, rather than system shock 3 IMO
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>>376397994
I'm playing on nightmate and it's not that hard.

You just actually have to think about how you engage your enemies and be intelligent in general.
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>>376397853
Because Arkane have always been fucking based.
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>>376397853
Yeah but you're forgetting about
>that absolutely garbage, reddit-tier ending
Something had to give I guess.
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>>376398031
This is much MUCH more than Bioshock.
For example you can actually go EVERYWHERE on Talos1 while in Bioshock you couldn't visiit the whole city.

The level design and worldbuilding are on a whole other level.
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Best game I've played all year.
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Yeah went into it expecting it to just be shit but was pleasantly surprised
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>>376398205
>reddit-tier
Excellent critique friend
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>>376398002
Everyone is saying its space bioshock, yet I enjoyed Prey but not bioshock
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How far into the game am I when I get to GUTS? I want to go back and explore the main hub area but feel I am never gonna end up back there...
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>>376398205
>reddit-tier ending

elaborate
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>>376398486
halfway through it
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>>376398486
Don`t worry, you can go back literally whenever. Also that`s like less then half-way if I remember or maybe half-way
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>>376398513

What the fuck, seems like it will be short then. Do I end up back at the at hub area naturally or am I gonna have to run back?
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>>376397853
but the whole thing is corporate, starting from the name?
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Why is this game so shit?
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Game is fun. Playing nightmare and I feel like I'm definitely getting my worth out of it for sure.

Sadly, I think I've streamed enough for the night.

For anyone who needs a little help, there is 4 nano's hidden on the side of a desk where you find a D&D character sheet reference. The security office/holding/room area beside the shuttle bay door. It's in a briefcase. Happy huntings anons.
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>>376398467
Its because they haven't played a proper immersive sim, like System Shock 2 for example.
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>>376398658
Because muh boycott.
People pushing their agenda all the way to metacritic.
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>>376398658
Because proper fun games are often shat on by mainstream media and players. It's not cwadooty a aylo or some other 'uge aaa title with press x to fun. There's actually game inside Prey if you can believe it.
Also no marketing = no bribes to journos = relatively poor scores.
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>>376398658
>not posting the superior pc version
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>everyone including shitty ecelebs that were paid to play this game hates Prey
>/v/ loves it

really activates those almonds
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>>376398809
every big streamer was showered in money to play it, wtf
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>Played System Shock 2 and adored it
>Played this wanting to love it and ended up underwhelmed

it don't add up
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>>376398862
>9 reviews
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>Have to edit game settings to turn off Motion Blur

FUCK YOU ARKANE
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I got a 7 minute timer because I did something with pressure. Where do I go?
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>>376398395
>>376398504
>play a pretty engaging game that deals with a plethora of themes
>go through 25 hours of said engagement with decisions that I was invested in
>final decision had me stumped for a good 10 minutes because I was so torn

>in the end it was all a dream (read: simulation)
>all 'your' actions amounted to was being judged by robots
>I say 'your', because it wasn't actually you
Truly inspired story telling. What a satisfying conclusion to 25 hours of roleplaying as Morgan.
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I just love how they just allow the player to go where they please and they actually meant it when they said you had a whole station to walk around in. I've spent 3 hours just exploring room to room without being harassed or forced to follow any quests.

It feels like an Elder Scrolls or Fallout game where you're just plopped into a massive environment and left to it.
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Which are the best weapons and why is it the nerf gun and the GLOO gun?
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>>376399028
It doesn't help that the endings in-simulation kind of suck, too. CUT TO FIVE SECOND PRE-RENDERED CUTSCENE WOO
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>>376399105
Wrenchfu <3
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What's special about this game? I know nothing about it beside the fact that it is a shootmans game.
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>>376398998
at least PC reviews don't blame the game to be unbalanced because they're trash at playing
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>>376399195
Much like D44M, everything leading up to this game looked bad until the demo came out.

It's in the middle of System shock and Bio shock in terms of mechanics with the Arkane flair.

Also, it has TECHNOLOGY. Each room usually has 2 standard exits but 3-4 irregular exits as well.
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>>376399195
It isn`t a shooter tho
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Wish they would have called it something else.
It doesn't have anything to do with Prey. Even if it's a re-imagining, Prey was a one off game.
Prey wasn't even that successful, so they're not really riding any significant coat-tails.
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>>376399275
>everything leading up to this game looked bad until the demo came out
>tfw thought it looked amazing from early gameplay trailers realizing it was trying to be system shock 2 and walked away feeling like it was only okay
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>>376399234
sauce?
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>>376399315
Because they'll make extra bank. People will play Bethesda games just because they're masters of marketing. The people that wouldn't have played this game because they don't care about the Bethesda meme might play it because they played Prey and want to see how it stacks up to the original. Prey had a cult following.
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>>376398785
How in the fuck is this game political?

i'm a fucking /pol/ack and I don't see anything political about it at all.
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>>376397853
its a massive disappointment
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>>376399485
i mean not that guy but it's pretty heavy future politics

a lot of the important decisions are about transhumanism
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>>376399195
Its not a very good shootmans game.

You just walk through same rooms facing same boring enemies. Minecraft crafting system. Even the crosshair isnt centered because the game wishes to be so... stupid.
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>>376399478
After beating the new Prey I played OG Prey and man, the gameplay is pretty boring in OG, same with the audio. Too bad cuz the story and the general bizarre-ness is really fun
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>>376399485
Not political, just the game industry business as usual.
Search for "Prey 2".
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>>376399568
I like the idea that JFK surviving gets us into SPAAAACCCEEE
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>>376399028
>it was all a dream ending
>in the year 2017

no fucking way
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>>376399807
Apparently JFK was a crypto fascist who loved Hitler.
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>>376400101
He was a hero.
RIP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOGu05q-Ch4
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>>376399807
Actually it's a 'what if US and the Soviets worked together in space travel' scenario. They started a space station before JFK's assassination attempt.
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>>376398002
it's not space bioshock

you couldn't even die in bishock, this game forces you to be careful on harder difficulties
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>>376399478
>People will play Bethesda games just because they're masters of marketing
Apparently not this time
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>>376399478
>Prey had a cult following.
woah, all 5 of them?
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>>376399478
It didn't work this time, they tried really fucking hard though.
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>>376399478
>Prey had a cult following.
prey never established a franchise or anything so I think it's fair game, the name itself is ambiguous enough.
It is a shame about the cancelled sequel and how bethesda basically fucked over human head though
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>>376400535
you couldn't even die in prey
just load a quicksave
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>>376400835
By that amazing stretch of logic, you can't die in any game with a save system.
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>>376400403
more like "what if space aliens attacked a soviet spacecraft"
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>>376401241
That too, yeah.
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>>376399547
Can you explain why?
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>>376401151
Yep
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> Take a good game.
> Ruin it with SSD shredding spyware.
> /v/ will defend this.
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>>376401151
What's wrong about that? It's literally true
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>>376401754
You realize that was a fake meme right? The site that posted that printed a full retraction because it was dumb as shit.
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>>376401579
'it was all a dream'. in the end you have a pointless A/B choice that invalidates the entire game and your choices up to that point. at no point do you discover the truth and make choices accordingly. the ending is completely 100% post game
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>>376401609
>>376401889
Difference with Bioshock is you could kept playing after you die. Just leap into a fight, die and revive until you dwindle down the enemies.

A quicksave would revert everything back. You'd have to fight the enemies at full health every time until you learn to beat them.
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>>376400535
> you cant even die in bioshock
kill yourself, bioshock was a fairly challenging game.
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Waiting for 50% discount in two months
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>>376402132
He talks about the chambers that revive you.
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>>376402305
Do you really considers that as "Not dying" for the player? It's only a lore ways to explain why the main character would die and die again trying to reach his objective.
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>>376400535
>>376402305
Has a disable vitachambers option and encourages you to play through the game without them.
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Low-end bros, how is the PC version? I have an HD7850.
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>>376402382
Not that anon but yes, because the worldstate is persistent after death so you can keep hitting enemies and whittle them down while dying endlessly with no consequences.
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>>376402382
>Do you really considers that as "Not dying" for the player?
Yes, 'not dying' = permadeath. Start from the beginning all over again
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>>376402407
>>376402382
>you
>he talks about
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>>376397853
How long wil this game be shilled? Nu-Doom was good because it was Doom but Prey is literally Bioshock in space.
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>>376402460
Playing with a 770 and getting 60 fps with everything maxed except textures since it has extremely severe pop-in to the point some textures take minutes to load with 2GB VRAM cards like mine. I switched textures to medium and everything's perfectly fine.
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>>376402536
It's what Bioshock should have been, and in space. It's almost as mechanically deep as SS1/2, has FAR more options and exploration than Bioshock, has actual inventory management with other survival mechanics, and is actually good all the way through unlike Bioshock which goes to absolute shit 2/3 through and never recovers.
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>>376399197
Lel got em
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>>376402536
literally bioshock in space is awesome though, like what else do you want
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>>376402113
Holy shit my nigger, i don't even own the game but fuck, are you being ironic now or you actually this much of a moron?
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>>376397853
>immersive first person shooter
>no fucking iron sight
Fuck off, retarded crosshairfag.
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>>376402672
And unlike BioShock and System Shock, the setting, characters, writing, atmosphere, artstyle and enemy designs are bad.
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>>376402881
This is factually wrong though.
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System shock 2 was linear as fuck, pretty much a slightly more open bioshock to be honest. this gameplay wise is far superior coupled with the metroidvania esque exploration and replay value. only thing that system shock 2 does better in is atmosphere which is not as great as people make it out to be ( considering how the game kind of dropped the ball towards the end). Prey is what system shock should've been ( expanding on the openness that the first had)
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>>376402851
actual Prey game with Tommy or the bounty hunter game.
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>>376402873
>using guns
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>>376397853
Considering how shit and lack of games this year has been, this game might be GOTY considering how original and great it turned out.
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>GOTY in the year where Nioh, BotW and Persona 5 came out

yea maybe if you're a PCbro without any games.
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>>376403254
>>376403326
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>>376401151
What is Iron man playthrough?
>Die because you weren't fully in an elevator before pushing the button, bye bye days.
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>>376402536

Hello Nu-Doom shill.
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>>376403326
Sorry but I dont play weeb shit. I have more than enough tastes to not fall that low.
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>>376403326
>it's ok to just remake the same shit over and over if it's Japanese

lmao
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>>376403254
>Considering how shit and lack of games this year has been
This has been the best year for games since 2000.
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>>376398504
Game story force you to be a good guy that must help humans in need or you'll be judged as an asshole and be killed in the end

The fact that I have to do good in order to choose to let the fat fuck Alex live or die is fucking stupid. Also

>no overcome the 'simulation' and break free and kill the fat fuck end
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If people care enough and there is a great demand I will be able to pirate it and then we can talk about it.
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>>376399028
DON'T LET THEM MAKE YOU THEIR PREY
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>>376403436
well if the games are good unlike west cuck games.
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>>376403436
>System Shock, System Shock 2, System Shock remake, System Shock 3, Bioshock, BioShock 2, BioShock Infinite, Prey
>b-but every Zelda is the same
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>2 arkane games have denuvo
>both sell like complete shit on PC
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>>376403726
>>376403436

hey no more of that frog, he died!

also prey is like a remake of bioshock/systemshock
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>>376403740
>Prey is only influenced by Bioshock that came out 10 years ago, or arguably by System Shock 2 that's like 19 years old
>Bioshock Infinite is just a crap FPS and nothing like the others

Compare that to the example he gave of Nioh. Literally just fucking Souls clones
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>>376403767
I'd suggest its Beth's retarded no copy to reviewers policy. Reviewers are trash but it has gotta bring more eyes than what they did.

shame, its actually a pretty great game.
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>>376403767
Didn't doom have it as well at first to secure initial sales?
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>>376402863
You should be asking yourself that if you seriously can't see the difference, memeboy.
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>>376403061
That twist looks silly and pointless.
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>>376403891
There are so many shameless Souls clones, Nioh is one of the few that plays nothing like it.
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So whats the deal with typhon abilities? Am I supposed to completely avoid them unless I want all the turrets and shit trying to kill me? I heard I can grab two before things go to shit.

Any advice on what two?
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>these responses to OP
This thread is a disgrace. Fucking nobody here knows good games anymore...
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>>376404591
typhon abilities end up making you ridiculously powerful. turrets are nothing and can be hacked friendly, only cons are big easily avoided boss alien shows up more and one potential ending is considered immoral because you're too alien to be safe (but you can still do it)
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>>376399028
yeah the alien bullshit at the end underminds a lot of good story and narrative that you do throughout the game.

it isnt in my head canon and seeing how poorly this game sold we will not get a sequel so no one will ever tell me otherwise
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>>376397853
It's shit though.
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>>376404391
>Dude actually tries to defend himself

You're too good to me, /v/

Thanks for the laughs kiddo
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>>376405391
You're not offering any argument though. Just spouting more memes and acting like you won.
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>>376406126
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>>376406126
>offering arguments against bait
>kid is still replying to me

Okay dude, I enjoy de-railing threads too and as a pc gamer I enjoy trolling PC threads but when someone calls you out on the bait you have to wrap things up or you become a faggot
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If you don't play as a good guy the whole game you get a shitty ending, I played a practical "wipe out the station/all humans to contain the spread" and got a horrible 20 second ending that basically said "Fuck off, you didn't play how we wanted."

So yeah, mass effect 3 endings awaaaaay.
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>>376397853
pity you didn't buy a million copies, it's not a popular game at all.
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They fucked up with Dishonored 2, now everyone knows a 50% sale with a demo will be here in a couple of months.
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>DENUVO
LOL
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I'm glad to hear it's good.
Waiting for crack
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Are alien powers good?
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>>376407660
Yeah, they are pretty fun and powerful. Better than Bioshock plasmids for sure.
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>>376403254
>Considering how shit and lack of games this year has been

how can PCfags hate games so much?
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>>376408073
Not everyone loves weebshit as much as you do.
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>>376398203
preach
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>>376403326
Weeb games? No thanks lol.
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>>376408134
I love my weebshit and I somewhat agree with you. Of all games I played, RE7 was okay, but very small; GR2 was a literal rehash of Vita game without fixing all the problems that game had; Persona 5 was just mildly entertaining, not something that is going to last with me for years; NieR had great story which tackled some interesting themes but gameplay was probably the worst out of all Platinum games. Prey is the first time this year I feel like everything is all-around great and working with me on all levels.
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>>376402103
It wasn't just a "dream". You went through the actual Morgan Yu's memories and experiences.
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>>376397853
That's not Prey 2
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>>376403891
Nioh doesn't play like souls though. It just has similar stamina management and some similar button mapping.
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>>376410038
thank god it's not
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>>376397853
Because Arkane are good devs. Dishonored 2 was one of the best games released last year. I really hope Beth lets them develop a Fallout spinoff, maybe they can wash off some of Todd's stink and make a good game like New Vegas.
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Two phantoms and two corrupted operators are camping right outside the Hardware door.

Any tips apart from despair?
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>>376411404
Turn into a mug and roll to freedom
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>>376411490
I can't.
I spent all those neuromods on becoming the human hulk but I can't do anything useful.
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>>376411404
You don't know real pain until a nightmare decides to take up residence in your lobby
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>>376411404
GRENADES
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>>376411852
I'm useless, thanks for reminding me.
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>>376398007
Kek December
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>>376411404
>he didn't invest into mobility and stealth

Ambush hit & run
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>>376398725
Speaking of which the new system shock game coming out soon looks pretty good too
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