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FFXV was better than P5 in every aspect. You're delusional

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FFXV was better than P5 in every aspect. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
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P5 has a much better framerate
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>>376287689

>"Lord knows"
>game takes place in a fictional world

what did they mean by this
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>>376287904
They're both 30.
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>>376287689
Owo
Says who?
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>>376287963
FFXV has shitty frame pacing.
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>>376287689

List these aspects please.

I'm up for a good laugh.
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>>376287982
>gamefags
>insecure beta males don't pick the third option because they feel ashamed of themself
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>>376288241
You've posted for the third time in this thread already. It's enough you retarded spastic.
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>>376287949
>fictional world
>characters say "oh my god" and "god damn it"

this irks me so fucking much
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>>376287689
No.
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>anyone giving a shit about XV
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>>376288382
>>376287949
>fictional fantasy world
>trump memes
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>>376288320

That was my first post you autistic retard.
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when they get to PC i'll judge which is less shit. until then Berseria is the clear victor over either gay boy band simulator or just another japanese highschool simulator.
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>>376288508
How about no?
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>>376288606

you really are fucked in the head
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I loved XV and it was probably my GOTY last year. I'm about 15 hours into Persona 5 and it's already the better game.
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>>376289037
The first third is the best part of P5. Everything after that is a trainwreck.
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>>376287689
Stella confirmed better than Luna

>share same amount of screen-time throughout their existence
>Stella's already a more interesting character despite only being in trailers
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>>376289347
The first 5 hours of XV up to Galdin Quay are the best moments of the game. Everything after that is a vision-less mess of a turd.
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>>376287689
Persona 5 let me bang a teacher.

I couldn't even romance Iris in FFXV let alone bang Cindy. Aside from that, the entire journey was a constant sausage fest.
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>>376289484
There was nothing interesting about Stella. Or Versus XIII for that matter. You fags really need to let that shit go. And yes Luna isn't any better.
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>>376289347
lies
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>>376288031
is it still not fixed? damn
frame pacing is to this gen what screen tearing was to last gen
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>>376289561
See, bullshit like this is why I'm not taking >>376289347 seriously. The first few hours of XV are a boring slog and it improves immensely once it starts to become more focused. And I doubt Persona suddenly falls apart at the end too. /v/ always likes the worst parts of games.
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>Prompto's VA did a better performance in the shitty P5 dub than in XV
PERSONAUUUUGH
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>>376289612
>reluctantly battles her friend/love-interest over the crystal to save the people of her kingdom
>not interesting

She had a lot of potential.
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>game comes out
>its shit
>all these ITS GOOD I SWEAR threads

sad
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Eh, they both had shitty stories, shitty gameplay, and decent atmosphere, although I think P5 edges XV out there as far as a consistent atmosphere.

I still like XV more, but I also like picking dog shit off my lawn more then XV so take that for what it's worth, P5 was just a snooze in general, at least XV made me want to like it.
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>have a boat in your game
>literally just a 10 minute cutscene
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>>376287689
>that water

kek
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>>376289978
Well yeah, the whole thing had potential, but Luna was easily on of the worst aspects of the game that was handled in the most laughable way.
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>>376290579
He was talking about Stella. Luna was fine for what she was: a plot device. She shouldn't have been marketed as some kind of major character but otherwise she did what she needed to do and promptly fucked off.
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>>376287689
fuck off xv-kun
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>>376287689
I haven't played Persona 5 yet, but I hope you're wrong. I already got burned hard on XV, and I wouldn't want to get burned on another 60 dollar game. Even got the Steelbook Edition.
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>>376287689
That is objectively true. Shameless Persona fanboys and shit-eating turn-based nostalgia-cucks will deny it though.
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>"Fans loved Final Fantasy Fiftee-"
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>>376291030
>The opinions of shitty clickbait youtubers matter

Wow you sure showed me.
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>>376291030
Thats a dumb pic, you're a dumb person.
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>>376291101
Well, the opinions of Metacritic don't matter (unless it can be used to your advantage), the opinions of /v/ doesn't matter unless they agree with you, and the opinions of youtube doesn't matter.

What the fuck matters to you, then?
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>Turned big event bosses into borefests
>QTE guards and autododging
>hold-button combat with little variation (the occasional pause-combo move, and some generally awful d-lefts).
>Made magic less a tool and more a "skip boring fights" button.
>First FF since FF9 to use boring cutscene summons, and managed to make them even worse with them activating in dumb ways.
>The main mixup is teamattacks which are more basic than KH2's Limits, and also lack the resource management, so are just spammable iframes.
>Item usage is straight dumb, when they not only got this right back in KH1, but also in 13 LR.
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>>376289745

When does it become focused exactly? It's even more poorly paced and convoluted the farther you get.

>Cor tells you to collect Royal Arms to take back throne
>You start collecting the first few but then ditch that objective as it becomes optional
>random attack on Lestallum-everyone is fine except one old man
>Ardyn then drives you to some dungeon so that Aranea can guide you through it, despite fighting you moments ago
>political discussions with Hilary Clinton
>fight Leviathan, thrown on train, Ignis lost his eyes somehow
>Some literal random bullshit happens all on the same train ride-ardyn appears, gentiana makes an appearance, Luna's ghost makes an appearance, you lose your powers, prompto falls off
>you later find Prompto and he reveals he's a test tube baby
>no one gives a shit
>sucked into a crystal-wake up in a world of ruin and hurled at the final boss
>Knight of the round appear, expecting you to know who they are and kill Noctis (?)
>an ass-load of loose-ends are left as they never explain how any of the supporting characters react to their world being literally rid of monsters.
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>>376287689
True. It's just turn based kiddies who are triggered XV was superior.
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>>376287904
P5 looks like a PS2 game and is a literal corridor simulator the entire game, there's even more invisible walls in P5 than any area of XV.
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>>376291101
I'd literally rather trust these guys than big Youtuber shills that just want to please their audience of children
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FFXV only has like 40hr worth of playtime.
FFXIII had way more playtime.
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>>376291273
>First FF since FF9 to use boring cutscene summons, and managed to make them even worse with them activating in dumb ways
Nothing like being in the maze that is the sewers, yet have the lightning dude know exactly where and how hard to throw his spear so that it crashes through all that ground, but sticks perfectly into the floor you're standing on.
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Besides the lack of story, my biggest gripe with XV is the small party size. Four dudes. That's it. Several characters could have been party members, but they weren't, for some reason. That's really lame.
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>>376287949
There is gods in FFXV.
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>>376291348
Well considering how P5 isn't striving to be an Open-World game, I'd say XV is pretty pathetic for the sheer amount of invisible walls. XV fails at even being an open world game. At least P5 stuck true to it's linearity.
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>>376291292
Not really. I prefer games like Secret of Mana, but XV just sucked.

I'm now more excited for Taro's next game, as well as Ever Oasis, than I am for the next FF. I'll never preorder or season pass anything FF again. I feel that burned over XV.
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>>376288031
Nope, that was already fixed weeks ago with the stable mode.
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>>376287982
>seriously posting gamefag polls from a board full of people triggered that XV was good
>Not posting the actual GOTY poll from gamefags where XV won with over 10,000 votes.
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>>376291354
40 hours? That's a bit of a stretch. You can finish the story in 15-20 hours and you'll spend the next 5 getting the Regalia Type-F and doing side-quests only to finally drop the game after realizing they're all the same.
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>>376291529
>I spent 60 dollars on a game and am upset that it was good!
Is this what you truly believe people are saying?
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>>376289037
I'm 15 hours into P5 and it's just terrible.

Everything is coridoors, braindead gameplay where you can just press options to skip through it all, characters are bland and unlikable, treat MC like shit because he had the audacity to stop some guy from molesting a girl, music is bland and forgettable, extremely padded to fuck with the whole "you can only do one thing today" shit. There honestly isn't a single aspect it's better than XV in at all.
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>>376291582
This. I spent a lot of time dicking around in other places and doing hunts/side queests, and it only took me ~35 hours to beat, even with all that. If I tried to just stick to the story, I'd be surprised if it lasted more than 20 hours.
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>>376291618
Have you never played a Persona game before?
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I was very disapointed in the summons and lack of them in ff15. Ramuh was good and he rest were shit. They got lazy.
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>>376289484
But that's wrong, and Luna has as much time in XV as there is FMV cutscenes in FF7. Stella literally did nothing and was nothing more than an empty concept. Luna was an important character who was mainly doing stuff in the background like Zelda.
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FF XV is the FF game I've heard or read the least about. Even FF 12 and 13 were memorable and brought topics to talk about even if they were flawed.

This one feels like a Xenoblade Chronicles clone, which is a timesink with not much to say about. Those are the worst j-rpgs (the offline mmo's) so we gotta thank the Nintendobabbys once again for electing XC to a cult classic by fault of having never played a truly great RPG before.
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FFXV kun if you're in this thread, I sent you friend request on PSN. Why didn't you accept it?
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>>376291282
Thanks anon
On point with everything wrong in FFXV
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>All these fags arguing over which weeb game is better
>mfw equally enjoying both atm
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>>376289978
>friend/loveinterest
Stella was none of those, she met Noctis for literally 3 minutes and talked about Etro for no reason, then left, that was it, that was as far as their "relationship" went.

That "battle" wasn't even a thing anymore by 2011 anyway and when it was shown in 2008 it was from 2 years before Versus even had its script written.
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>>376291017
kek
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>>376291747
Can't speak to Xenoblade, but Xenoblade X got WAY more enjoyment and playtime from me. That game was genuinely fun. My biggest gripe about the game isn't even the story that had plotholes big enough to fit New LA into, it was the music that started up every time you decided to fly.
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Another thread for people who cant enjoy something without something to call it better than. Please learn to enjoy something in your life anon san
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>>376291273
Fuck off Matt.

>>376291189
You mean metacritic only matters when it's to your advantage, clickbait youtube videos only matter when its to your advantage, /v/ somehow doesn't matter to you unless it's Anti kun samefagging out his ass.

Clearly you don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say.
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I'm going to confess everything; I have repeatedly done things that were... unbecoming of a director.
Yes, you were all right, I'm responsible for the destruction of Final Fantasy Versus XIII and the failure of Final Fantasy XV.
The new Final Fantasy Versus XIII that Nomura envisioned was really going to be a work of art, a huge, variegated, entirely-explorable open world full of life with lots of wonderful cities; a fun and exciting Kingdom Hearts combat and, last but not least, one of the most deep and emotional stories in the entire franchise, with incredibly well developed and evolving characters... yes, I've seen it all... Nomura and his Versus really could have single-handedly saved Final Fantasy and restore it to the throne of jrpgs.
I was envious of his talent. So i destroyed it all. I killed Stella; I trashed more than 3/4 of Eos reducing them to another FF13-style linear hallway; I butchered the combat when I knew it was already perfect as it was; I erased Insomnia and the imperial invasion to make a movie; I butchered the plot and all the characters' motivations and backstories...
But more than that, I deliberately lied to the public making them believe that nothing was going to be changed, and that the game was going to be 100% finished.
I even hired an actor to post on the forums and shill my pitiful FFV13 imitation, promising him 100 $ for every single line of praise he would write in defense of the game.
I feel so miserable... I destroyed the project of a man and the hopes and dreams of millions of fans... I don't deserve to be a director anymore, so I'm hereby going to announce my resignation from Square Enix, and I'm going to turn myself to the police in order to pay for my crimes.
Yours, Hajimemashite Tabby.
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>>376291961
>You mean metacritic only matters when it's to your advantage, clickbait youtube videos only matter when its to your advantage, /v/ somehow doesn't matter to you unless it's Anti kun samefagging out his ass.

I'll grant that I've never seen you post youtube videos, so that's a fair point, but I've seen XV defenders post metacritic scores all the time and start threads (like this one) to try and get /v/'s opinion, or at leas pretend like they are trying to.

When you open a door, don't be surprised that people start walking through it.
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FFXV
E3 2013 Trailer,

"I can't stay any longer" said Nomura through Stella, "My heart won't let go" said Noctis who represents the player, us. "Don't worry about me (Versus XIII, Nomura). Live your own life".
"The world we purport to know is ever changing ending as we speak. So it is and must be for all existence." (Versus XIII is ending) And at the end : "you want the truth ? it's complicated".

E3 2013 Trailer has been a goodbye from Nomura you fucking faggots, we didn't deserve his Final Fantasy. Fuck.
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>>376291970
Lol
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XV definitely had a better story, pic related is one of the most powerful scenes in gaming.
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>>376292121
You can stop, XV-kun.
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>>376289978
Base on anon comment on /v/ Stella was dead and noctis kill her and noctis had visions about her.
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>>376292121
No, it wasn't. It felt like my spine was going to cringe out of my back. Nothing happened in that game to make me feel that level of attachment to anyone in the party OR to Noctis himself.

Just reading that post made me immediately think of 3 games that had more powerful scenes without even trying.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSB68bJBYj0
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>>376287689
I can't imagine anyone thinks this. FFXV is middling jrpg. P5 is goat contender
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>>376292473
It doesn't matter to him, yet when you start bringing up other FFs that you think are better, he'll default to Metacritic as a defense.
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>>376291282
It becomes optional to emphasis the fact that you can go off and explore, because you gain things by exploring, just because you didn't do it doesn't mean you weren't supposed to do it, you are given the open world for a reason.

You can see a decrease in the amount of NPCs walking around Lestallum compared to before

Aranea was hired to, did you not understand such a basic concept?

>political discussions with Hilary Clinton
So what's the problem with Altissia having their own government faction exactly?

There is a very clear focus for what happens, Luna awakens Leviathan and shit goes whack, Ignis lost his eyesight during this and when Noctis wakes up he learns Ignis was blinded, but they still have to press onward to Niflheim where they will have to travel by train to get around

None of those things happening are random, Ardyn is the one who's plotted everything bad happening to Noctis from the beginging, he got on the train after ch10 and fucked with Noctis's head, then when going past Shiva's corpse is when Shiva makes her appearance, afterwards Ardyn reveals he was immortal and disables Noctis's powers.

Prompto being an MT/supposed to be one is something that had been hinted from early on where he is the one always asking about where all the people inside Steyliff went and you find constant daemons instead, where he talks about how he always felt worthless and empty, and how the daemon in the cave grabbed him. Him revealing he was from NIflheim and them nochanlantly shrugging it off was to show how they only care about Prompto, not where he's from.

The kings of Lucis are KOTR which has been known since before the game was even out, and Noctis having to sacrifice himself was made apparent a whole chapter ago.

You learn that Iris and Cor become daemon slayers, that Aranea, Biggs and Wedge run their own armies now, that Cidney is in Lestallum helping out, same with Cid.

Seems like you just didn't pay attention to anything properly.
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>>376287689
100% persona is like the most lackluster game ever. you can tell by going into a thread and allpeople ever do is discuss the persona they used. that's it they never comment on the games story or characters just "dude lmao i used this persona lol"
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>>376292573
damage control
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>>376291445
The only walls in XV is around the shore areas and the higher up railing on the raised roads, P5 has no business having invisible walls in a fucking coridoor area especially where there shouldn't be a wall, because it's not open world it has all the means to not have walls at all yet it fucks up at that. XV doesn't have any more invisible walls than any other recent open world game has.

>>376291457
No XV was legitimately fantastic, easily one of the best FFs yet.
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>>376291582
You can stop lying, the game is 40-60 hours. The only way it can be under 20 hours is if do nothing but the main quest and skip cutscenes. By the way you can beat FF1-10 in under 10 hours so I don't even see your point anyway.
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>>376292703
>XV doesn't have any more invisible walls than any other recent open world game has.
Not only does Breath of the Wild have less invisible walls, it does open world better in every single aspect than XV.
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>>376292703
>No XV was legitimately fantastic, easily one of the best FFs yet.
Say it as often as you like, I will never agree. It was a pretty meh game in my opinion. "Meh" enough that I deleted the game off my PS4, despite the fact that I purchased the season pass. It's just not worth the space.

It also convinced me to avoid buying any FF for more than 30 bucks until I think they have made 3 legitimately great FF games in a row. At best, they've lost a customer for 15 years over this game, but after 12, 13, and 15, they have a lot to make up for.
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>>376288483
>any kind of propaganda in any medium now is a trump meme

kill yourself.
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>>376291970
Fuck off matt.
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>only time XV is talked about it leads to massive amounts of shitposting and bait threads

Yeah but I guess FFXV is a truly undisputed amazing finished masterpiece and everyone is wrong for hating it.
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>>376292121
True.

>>376292473
>>376292569
>>376292345
>>376292386
>>376292106
>metacritic somehow matters
Fuck off Matt.
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>>376291618
Ok XV-kun
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>>376292817
But that's wrong, just because you can climb on rocks doesn't mean BOTW doesn't have invisible walls.

>>376292909
I don't give a fuck if you agree, you're a faggot with shit taste.
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>>376293012
You realize that it is impossible for these posts to be written by the same person? Check the timestamp.

>>376292345
>>376292386
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>buy world of final fantasy to hold me off before the disappointment FFXV
>it was better, actually fun, and had more game time

Playing P5 w/ 40hr in and it already is better then FFXV
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>FFXV "bosses"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfR06KrKWDU
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>>376293096
>But that's wrong
FFXV doens't let you jump over a fucking guard rail, it objectively has more invisible walls than BotW.
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>>376292994
There was 3 months of constant 500+ XV threads until around the end of february when they started to die down and other games were coming out so most people were now playing those since they had finished XV, and people now are waiting for the XV DLC stuff and other updates.

I've already seen Nier threads die down now after a month of constant 500+ threads and it's mainly just waifu posting now. Soon P5 threads will start dying off towards the end of the month too. That happens with every game, the most active discussion is around the month they come out then a month or two afterwards. Doesn't matter how big or small.
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>>376293096
>I don't give a fuck if you agree, you're a faggot with shit taste.

That's fine. If there are enough people like me, Square Enix will care, because they will be losing money over it, which will mean budget cuts on future games.

What is REALLY sad, though, is that people defending FFXV always need to compare it to budget games, or games with serious flaws. "Haha! This game is better than Persona 5/Xenoblade X/NieR Automata!"

And those claims are STILL hotly contested. XV had a fucking huge budget, and still couldn't even get away from being compared to games that have a lot wrong with them, even if what is "right" helps make up for it. This is why nobody ever states that its better than Dark Souls, or Bloodborne, or whatever other game is considered a masterpiece. Because for all that time and money sunk into the game, it comes off as worse than a game like Secret of Mana (released almost a quarter of a century ago) in MANY ways.
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>>376293391
Except Nier had constant threads for its DLC while the Gladiolus shit couldn't hit bump limit (or get close to it) even one time.
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>>376293238
The Leviathan fight is one of the worst video game bosses period.
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>>376293120
You can top pretending phoneposting isn't a thing.

>>376293238
Wow Matt you posted an exploit that a guy discovered after hours and hours of trial and error against Aranea's boss fight.

>>376293294
Because the rails are situated near trees right under them where you'd get stuck on if you did jump down, you can jump down the areas where trees aren't directly under the rails.
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>>376293413
Those claims are only contested by contrarian faggots like you who are desperate to "stick it to the man" by acting as if lesser or smaller games are better just for the fact that they are not as big.
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>FFXV "final boss"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8IO-29B2nk
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>>376293592
>You can top pretending phoneposting isn't a thing.
You are paranoid as fuck, dude. Why would anyone care enough about this shitty game to do that? The only way I could reasonably see you coming to that conclusion is if it is something you are doing.
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>>376293718
Secret of Mana is indisputably bigger than FFXV. It's also way more explorable of a world.
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>>376293521
But that's wrong, there was multiple ones for ep Gladio talking about lore and combat against Gilgamesh and Cor, whereas Niers DLC is for a joke boss for the novelty factor.
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>81 metascore for a mainline FF game
>Completely unfinished story
>One of the most incohesive settings in any JRPG
>Game so unfinished they are fundamentally changing aspects of it and adding in new story scenes half a year from release
>Needs a movie and anime series just to understand what the fuck is going on, and even then they flash these scenes at you in the middle of the game
>Major steps backward in gameplay from action RPGs from the same company made over a decade ago
>Characters look like they just walked out of a gay bar

It's a abysmal. It's how not to make a game.
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>>376293718
Are you saying a big world makes it better automatically?
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>>376290110
Yep, that's what you get for talking with Persona fags though, anon.
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>>376293806
Would Noctis be a regular at Crossroads?
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>>376293727
Wow another clip where you show a guy using armiger spam instead of regular means of combat since armiger is the only thing that actually would do damage at level 1.
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>>376293748
Man it's just sad how hard you are trying right now.

>>376293790
No it objectively isn't.

>>376293824
Can you not read? I'm talking bigger as in the game franchise and budget.

>>376293806
Fuck off matt https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/HtEhhlLY2YaxEZktexAoWg/
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>>376293806
I agree with everything except the gay bar.
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>>376293949
>Max HP and Max MP, making one presume all characters are at Max Level
>Somehow the same as a normal leveled character using a single move to defeat the final boss.

Really activates the almonds.

>>376294004
>Can you not read? I'm talking bigger as in the game franchise and budget.
Does a game that comes from a bigger franchise, and has a big budget automatically make the game better?
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>>376294128
And what does that matter when the boss only does 300 damage, so they'd only need more than 300 HP to even get by from just mashing attack.
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>>376294128
>>376294240
>Does a game that comes from a bigger franchise, and has a big budget automatically make the game better?
And again you clearly can't read, I'm saying you are the one who is triggered by the fact that it is a bigger game which is why you are trying to "stick it to the man" just for that fact by saying smaller budget and less important games are somehow better, and all you fucking do is shill metacritic scores then post clickbait youtube videos to back up your shitposts because you can't even make a valid argumetn if you tried.
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>>376294240
Then show a clip of someone with a team of 301 HP beating him. Prove your claim, because I bet that at the level of 301 HP, you're gonna be looking at the team moving slower, and having less MP, lower defense, and lower strength at minimum.

But I will admit I'm wrong if you can prove me wrong.

Regardless, however, that would just make me say, "Ok. That game is as bad as FFXV," NOT, "Ok. FFXV is a good game."
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>>376294336
This guy gets it.
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>>376294372
>b-but that doesn't count
HAHAHAHAHAHAH MY FUCKING SIDES

You can win against pretty much any FF boss by just inputting regular attack you stupid fucking retard.
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>>376294336
>And again you clearly can't read, I'm saying you are the one who is triggered by the fact that it is a bigger game which is why you are trying to "stick it to the man" just for that fact by saying smaller budget and less important games are somehow better

Where I have I said this? Big budget games can be good. I liked Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag and Far Cry 4, for example.
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>>376293238
Kek. What an absolute piece of shit game
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>>376294517
>Someone using an exploit
>This makes it a bad game
XV has one of the finest action combat systems in an ARPG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqYElpLr2s
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>>376294469
The entire fucking stance you had proves it.

>>376294517
Stop responding to yourself.
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>>376294609
>The entire fucking stance you had proves it.
>Trust me! I'm a psychic, even though you just listed off big budget games that you thought were good.

I know why you won't name fag. Because you KNOW that you're an annoying cunt that has no real arguments, just unproven claims.
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>>376294584
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
>hold back on thumbstick while holding hold O
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>xv kun still at it
Reminder this is who you are arguing with.
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>>376287689
I know you still have dlc to sell, but have some dignity and accept that ffxv doesn't hold a candle to p5.
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>>376294682
Nigga you are literally being a contrarian faggot trying to act like some smaller lesser games is better for the sole fact that they aren't as big budget as XV, go fuck yourself.

>>376295108
>Matt reset his IP again while still posting debunked shitpost images.
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>>376287689
If Persona 5 had a main cast with a dynamic as good as the ffxv bros I'd probably have liked it more. Once Makoto joined the whole dynamic fell apart.
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Post yfw Nier Automata, a game made on a budget of two instant ramen meals and a single slightly dirtied sneaker, was better than both P5 and FFXV
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>>376295128
It's objectively better than P5 in every single aspect. Oh and talking about DLC. XVs DLC is acutally good and offers value at $25 with new bosses, story scenes, gameplay and areas, while P5 has shitty cosmetic DLC that cost over $100 just to get it all.
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>>376295379
>Worse than the first NieR in every way except combat
>Better than P5
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>>376295419
That's what I said, cunt.
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>>376295379
What the fuck does budget have to do with anything? Automata was made by Platinum. Are you some kind of retard that thinks budget is somehow indicative of how good gameplay is?
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>>376295413
>It's objectively better than P5 in every single aspect.
Objectively wrong seeing as P5's OST decimates XV's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1GA0VtVw-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtQfg5ktK6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYkIF3C7PY
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Every thread is comparing the JRPG/ARPG of the month to this shit game. Seems like a man can't let it go.
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>>376295413
>25$ for 3 one-two hour hallway sims that belongs in the story

Not meaningful DLC.
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>>376295464
>Are you some kind of retard that thinks budget is somehow indicative of how good gameplay is?

Does higher budget somehow not correlate to a better game? Do you really think that there's any excuse for FFXV's pisspoor combat despite the literal trillions of dollars thrown at it?
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>>376295492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg
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>>376295492
P5 has a shit ost.
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>>376295413
>Cut content for $25
No thanks I'll just pirate everything when it comes to PC.
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>>376295492
HAHAHAHA why'd you just post some bland forgettable elevator music that don't even remotely come close to god tier tracks like Somnus, Veiled in Black, Omnis Lacrima, Hellfire, Invidia, Luna theme, Noctis theme, Apocolypsis Noctis, Stand your ground, up to the challenge, Dawn, Song of the stars, Ravus Aeterna, Nox Divina etc.
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>>376295274
>Nigga you are literally being a contrarian faggot trying to act like some smaller lesser games is better for the sole fact that they aren't as big budget as XV, go fuck yourself.
No. I'm judging specific smaller-budget games as better than FFXV. There are also really bad budget games. FFXV is just a meh game with a big budget. The size of its budget has nothing to do with whether a game is good or bad, as I've listed several big budget games that I found to be good. I've defeated your entire argument against me being biased against big budget games.

>>376295464
Some XV lover seems to think that budget matters due to bias.
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>>376295560
Posting that one is cheating.
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>>376295593
>>376295606
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>>376295547
XV's massive budget went into polishing a turd. The fundamentals were already flawed, but they buckled down on presentation and tech, and that's the only thing that makes the game worth a damn.
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>>376295606
Veiled in Black, Hellfire and Up to the Challenge are the only songs that are on the same level as Rivers in the Desert though.

Would've liked Somnus more if the shitty combat music that plays in Insomnia didn't interrupt it, they didn't even get that right.
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XV-kun!

XV-kun!

XV-kun!
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>>376295520
>$100 for shitty cosmetic DLC is somehow meaningful
>$5 each for new area with new combat system with a new character against new bosses, with new music, new outfit, new weapon, fully voiced story scenes and are self contained within themselves
Fuck off faggot.
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>>376295606
Not who you are responding to, but I've never found XV's music or any Persona music to be enjoyable. Both are pretty forgettable, certainly not in the same league as stuff like Silent Hill and NieR.

But then, if I don't think its a contender for best OST ever, I don't really care about it. That said, I don't even think XV has the best music of all the FFs, which is why I was glad that they had other FF music included in the game.
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>>376295606
XV is Shimomura's worst work, save for a handful of tracks. It's so fucking bland and uninspired, it almost feels like she's parodying herself. Generic choir + Skyrim Sampling = shite
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>>376295547
Jesus christ you really know nothing about game development.

XV already has good combat, while budget is gone into tech, presentation, animation, voice acting, and advertisement. Just because you had higher budget doesn't suddenly mean it's going to change gameplay you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>376295716
The difference is that the base game of P5 is complete already, while XV's is just shoddy patchwork of cut content that fails to be properly integrated into the main story. The fact that it isn't free is hilarious.
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Only ARPG that's worse than XV is those Raidou Kuzunoha games.
Sad!
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>>376295413
Nice sales pitch. You're telling me that the game I bought last year needed to be patched up with extra story and bosses while the game I bought last month didn't need that.

FFXV is a joke, I had enough of it when I played it, and I sold it right after finishing it. On the other hand, I'm keeping Persona 5 for a new game plus sometime.
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>>376295716
It's not meant to be meaningful, you retard. They're cosmetic.

XV's DLC are literally filling gaps and expanding upon hollow characters.
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>>376295614
No, you're saying they are better for the sole fact that they are smaller budget because you're a contrarian faggot. Nothing you say will ever be valid.
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>>376295815
>game has a ton of money thrown at it
>it's somehow not okay to point out that XV's gameplay is inherently flawed despite all the resources they had available to make it good
>dismissing all the budget as just for everything except gameplay

Pathetic, really.
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>>376295848
At least the first one had a god tier story, XV's was unfinished and half the stuff happens off screen.
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>>376295716
Atlus only cut cosmetics to resell as dlc while Square cut half of the game to be released as dlc later.
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Okay xv-kun don't exert yourself.
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>>376295676
>Rivers in the Desert
Sorry but is this supposed to be good?
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>>376295815
>XV already has good combat
See >>376291273
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>>376295606
Either a shit salesperson or a deluded fanboy.
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>>376289840
This. >>376291618
>music is bland
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>>376295794
But that's wrong, it's among her best work with more inspiration and quality than many of her prior ones.

P5 is the epitome of trash music, it's all shitty elevator jazz funk trash, just fucking cancer to listen to, no memorable melody, no theme, nothing. XV has acutal theme and leitmotif with character themes and the best battle music in JRPG yet.
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>>376296027
See
>>376295108

It's just one huge autist.
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>>376287689
>My preferred game of choice is better than your preferred game of choice
>You are mentally ill if you think otherwise

OK anon
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>>376295951
>Rivers in the Desert
>Not a contender for best boss theme of all time
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>>376295831
XV is complete too, just because you're too much of a fucking idiot to see that doesn't change that fact. The fact that $100 of shitty cosmetic outfits isn't free is the real crime, while why teh fuck should stuff that happens separate from Noctis be things in the main game when Noctis wasn't there with them when those things happened? How the actual fuck is the DLC cut from it wasn't part of the main game to begin with? You can keep spering out about your fucking retardation but you'll always be objectively wrong.
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>>376296069
>But that's wrong, it's among her best work
She didn't even do the best song from the OST anon.
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>>376296175
>XV is complete
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>>376295848
And yet eleven years later, it's still a memorable entry with a nice story and serviceable gameplay.

Also that way of typing, are you perhaps that tripfag Lelouch from /a?
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>>376296175
>XV is complete too
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>>376295876
How it is a sales pitch when I just described what the DLC for both XV and P5 is doing you stupid cunt? P5 is shitty cosmetic DLC while XV DLC is actually good stuff in it worth the price.

Seriously even one fucking costume DLC pack in P5 cost more than a single episode DLC for XV, that is absolute fucking cancer highway robbery that Fatlus is pulling. I've had enough of P5 after only 15 hours because nothing is driving me to want to play it anymore since it's so fucking bland and boring as fuck. Do you also cry when other games get story expansion DLC or do you only pretend it's a bad thing when XV does it?
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>>376296175
Only a delusional fanboy on par with pic related, or a Square Enix employee, would hold that opinion.
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>>376295887
So in otherwords they are cancer.

XVs DLC isn't doing anything but giving you stuff showing that other characters did during the main story but isn't essential to progressing the main story, Episode Gladio was self contained and wrapped itself up, so will episode Prompto and Ignis. XVs main cast are still better presented than the fucking anime tropes that the P5 cast is.
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>>376295912
Again what the fuck does budget have to do with gameplay?

You can make good gameplay regardless of budget, budget has to do with polish, graphics, tech, animation and all the advertising you fucking moron.
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>>376296449
So then why is XV's gameplay so bad?
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>>376296175
XV has a bunch literal garbage cosmetics too. Plus it even has a locked off cosmetic DLC for $460. Why the fuck isn't that shit free?

Also, they fucking gave us a free story addition as Chapter 13 2.0 that wasn't even from Noct's point of view, you idiot. By your logic, they should give us the rest of those story DLCs for free.
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>>376296484
>XV
>Bad gameplay
This has to be the worst meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdHcyi13-A
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>>376296449
>>376295815
>I will insult those who didn't like FFXV, as this will surely bring them to my side.
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>>376295920
They didn't cut anthing, ep gladio, ignis and prompto were never part of the main game to begin with, they only existed as DLC when they decided to make DLC towards the end months of development. Gladio fighting Gilgamesh would have never happened in the main game because Gilgamesh himself wans't even planned for the main game at any point, he only existed once they decided they would do a DLC, and so they framed them around sections where the party members are temporarily away from Noctis. That has nothing to do with cut content especially when you only play as Noctis in the main game to begin with so the fact that you play as others in their DLC already means it can't be cut content since you aren't playing as Noctis during those and those episodes take place during sections of the game where you are playing as Noctis.
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>>376287689
Agreed.

>a tale of father and son
>kings, knights, warriors, robots, emperors and whores
>swords, guns, magic, cars, jet planes, airships
>the best of bros STAND BY ME
>road trip bro trip to get lil noct laid hot princess luna pussy
>fight the niflheim empire's robot soldier and mecha army
>kh and dark souls gameplay, precission, timing and rhythm
>sphere grid, armor/attire, costimization, upgrades, crafting
>armiger mode is the most angry satisfying ballistic shit ever
>music by yoko shimomura
>story and characters by tetsuya nomura
>design by roberto ferrari, armani, christian louboutin, audi
>huge world of quests, beasts, weapons and spells to find
>don't care for quests? main story is laid out easy to continue
>it's literally kingdom hearts without all the bullshit
>perfect blend of fantasy and science fiction
>breathtaking story of duty, coming of age and sacrifice
>noct grows a fucking beard
>select battles become zone of the enders lite
>no sjw shit, women dress like bitches, the one nigger in the game; the more you talk to him the more he reveals he was a murderer and a criminal, the one fat guy was gonna sell you out to the niffs, no diversity shit
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>>376296484
Maybe they should have outsourced to Platinum with all that money desu.
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>>376296521
I'll watch that if you want. But if I do, and I'm not impressed, and explain why, you cede the argument and admit that FFXV has bad gameplay. Deal?
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>>376295958
No one cares about your shitty copy pasta Matt.

>>376296027
Oh so the P5 faggot posting links somehow isn't a shit saleperson or deluded fanboy? Go fuck youself Fatlus shill.
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FFXV "superboss"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuRiTQZyAIs
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>>376296601
>Deal?
Deal.
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>>376296674
Ok. I'll start watching it right now.
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Persona 5 destroyed FFXV in every single aspect maybe except for music (Hellfire is too good). And its coming from huge pre-release XV fanboy.
Its still fucking hurts how dissapointing was FFXV.
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>>376296761
R.I.P E3 2013 trailer ;_;
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>XV has good combat maymay

I've never played anything more vomit-inducing and clunky in my life. I guess that happens when you overhaul your combat system one year out from release lol.
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What is the genre of video games with the easiest games?

A genre of video games, where all your games are super very easy
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>>376296251
>>376296303
>>376296357
How isn't it? It tells the story with a start, middle and end and wraps itself up. The things that happen in ep Gladio, Ignis and Prompto have nothing to do with the main story, those are side stories.

>>376296489
Uh no it doesn't, the chocobo shirt was free, the power ranger outfits are going to be free, you also already have many other outfits in the game already like the kingsglaive/kingly raiment, the thermal suits, the casual outfits. And right now the only cosmetic outfit you pay for is Regis's suit or the mariachi outfit which are both less than $4 anyway, and the Regis suit came as a free preorder thing to anyone who got the deluxe edition too.

>Plus it even has a locked off cosmetic DLC for $460.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? That is an actual physical jacket you buy in the real world, that they decided to put a bonus in game outfit version of it, you aren't buying the fucking in game outfit, you are buying the physical jacket that you can wear.

They added in that ch13 v2 stuff months later and to show only stuff in ch13 v2 which is still just using assets already in the game, the DLC stuff has areas and enemies made from scratch, new music, new bosses and so on.

>>376296524
No I'm just calling you a fucking idiot because you are one.
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P5>XV
Not going to bother with XV- kun's long lost brother.
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>>376296761
It didn't in terms of characters, animation, environments, exploration, enemies, music, graphics, voice acting, villain, story, polish or anything really.

>>376296826
Stop ban evading Matt.
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>>376295606
This. Holy fuck P5s music was so bland.
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XV>P5, it's not even a contest.
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>>376289597
At least FFXV has gameplay unlike P5 that consist of 90% of text which 80% of that is from a shitty WhatsApp group chat.
Also Noctis's group is way more likeable than the shitfest pile of emo's of the phantom thieves.
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>>376296283
Please, I'm not him.
>>376295914
A more memorable final boss at least, Good shit
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>>376296674
Well, firstly, one can tell that it doesn't actually take much skill to do. The biggest reason this gameplay looks fancy at all is because of the airdance ability. Which would be fine if it didn't take a total of 401 AP to unlock (6 for Airstep, 16 for Airslip, 52 for Air Stride, and 333 for Air dance). That, in and of itself, means that combat like that will not be available for tens of hours of gameplay (which, considering the game can be beaten at a leisurely pace in under 30 hours means something).

However, even ignoring all that, it is blatantly obvious that player isn't really focusing on anything the enemy does. With the ability he has, he could do what he does without even needing to look on the screen, and would likely never take any damage.

I'll admit it looks good, but while it is visually impressive, it's not really that fun and requires way too much of a grind to get to.

I eagerly await your admission.
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>>376297084
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>>376297084
>I eagerly await your admission.
I submit, Hajime Tabata's Final Fantasy XV has terrible gameplay across the board.
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>>376296963
>It didn't in terms of characters, animation, environments, exploration, enemies, music, graphics, voice acting, villain, story, polish or anything really.
Did Hackbata paying you, or you're doing it for free?
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>>376297221
No those are just facts
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>>376297165
Thanks for keeping your word.
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>>376297252
No problem.
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>>376296861
JRPGs.
The two games shitposted here are piss easy, one because it's easily broken due to nature of SLs and later difficulties need to inflate costs, and other is broken by design due to poor action gameplay vs most enemies seen in the game and no telegraphing.
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>>376297347
Sounds like the enemies were too hard for you so you blame the game. Git gud
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>>376297347
Maybe Persona 5 is easy, but you have to work for it to make it easy, and yet you still be able to die in the battles, if you miscalculated your turns.
In FFXV you can die only if you're braindamaged.
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>>376297438
>Im goona attack Cor when he is charging
>Man im dead
>Man this game is so HARD

fucking kek xvkun, neck yourself
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>>376297459
No P5 is easy as fuck and is literally a DVD menu tier trash won by mashing X. XV requires spatial awareness and use of complex precise technique execution in order overcome each new encounter.
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>>376297459
Persona is like MegaTen for toddlers in terms of depth and difficulty, you'd have to really go out of your way to be dying regularly in that game unless it's to Hama or Mudo.
A lot of the confidants remove any semblance of difficulty in the game too namely Strength.
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>>376297438
Haven't even played that DLC, as I deleted my gamesave before it dropped, but I can tell you what went wrong there pretty easily. You didn't even attempt to block or heal through any of those attacks, even though he gave you a great window to do so.
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>>376297347
>>376297438
>>376297459


Is there any video game franchise, where all your games are super very easy and without any difficulty?
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>>376297438
>state that it's piss easy
>git gud
You retarded or something?
>>376297459
Yeah I guess but still, late game may not accommodate well for it, needed more NG+ shit for broken stuff like Yoshitsune and Siegfried.
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>>376297574
I beat him by holding dodge the entire fight, stopping only to counter his long range attacks and to teleport through his horizontal lasers. All I did was position myself in between a hangar and a truck, where he couldn't reach me unless he tried a long range attack.

I did it at level 40. Took like 2 full in-game days.
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>>376297579
Have you played FFXV?
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>>376297631
Nice backpedal, you stated the enemies are too hard for you. Git gud Personafag
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>>376297727
All I did was say no telegraphing.
Which is true.
>broken means hard
No you idiot.
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>>376297717
I have but I don't see what that has to do with P5 being incredibly easy.
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>>376297780
>The enemies are too fast for me so they have no telegraphing!
Go back to your turn based garbage
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>>376297820
We compared both games. If Persona 5 is piss easy, FFXV in comparision is like i don't even know, easiest game in universe.
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>>376297849
You have to stop projecting.
Ain't my fault your game is easy to beat.
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>>376291348
and it's still better tho
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>>376297876
>FFXV in comparision is like i don't even know, easiest game in universe.
Of course it is. It's an action RPG that lets you pause the game whenever you need to think about what to do next.
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>>376287904
Nope
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>>376297876
>easiest game in universe.
I agree, even when arbitrarily limiting yourself in XV the only times I died was in the flying Regalia which was disappointing to say the least because getting the airship was always the best part of past Final Fantasy games.
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>>376297596
Did you not see that you can't block those attacks and that there was 0 potions and phoenix downs left? If you had played it you'd know, hell you can even see the icon says unblockable attack and that he had no potions or PDs left.
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>>376297696
>Took like 2 full in-game days.
You mean 2 real time hours?
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>>376298087
>there was 0 potions and phoenix downs left
So you artificially limited yourself in order to make the game challenging?

>Did you not see that you can't block those attacks and that there was 0 potions and phoenix downs left?
If you can't dodge or block, the only solution is to tank potions like a cunt, which means it may as well be a traditional JRPG.
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>>376298183
>Been a while since I played, but it was 48 Real World minutes, I believe.
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>>376297780
>All I did was say no telegraphing
How is the hobgoblin winding up its punch before hitting you not a telegraphed attack?
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>>376297876
In P5 you can win just from pressing options to win and skip battles, in XV you can and will die if you just try to hold O the entire battle.
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>>376297574
>XV requires spatial awareness and use of complex precise technique execution in order overcome each new encounter.

lol are these the words of a liar?
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>>376298381
Kill yourself xv-kun, you know this is not true.
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>>376297927
No it isn't.
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>>376298381
then just press square when the game tells you to and negate all damage while dealing some back in between holding O
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>>376298417
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>>376289840
Prompto's English VA is just generally good. Goro had more to work with thanks to going crazypants.
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>>376298417
That's exactly how my fight looked with >>376297574
shy of being further away and pressing triangle twice when he launched his horizontal laser attack.
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>>376298207
>Plus it even has a locked off cosmetic DLC for $460.
No, you start the fight with 1 phoenix down and 3 potions, and you can see all of them were used up during the fight and that webm shows a part where he got Cor to low HP but had no more phoenix downs or potions left.

And Cor has unblockable attacks which you can only avoid by either dodge rolling or sidestepping, but you have to commit to the action so if you dodge roll then you can't attack, if you are attacking you can't dodge roll. If you attack enough you can break Cor into a vulnerable state but that webm shows Cor getting to Gladio right before Cor could get knocked into a vulnerable state and Cor attacked after Gladio already was committed to the Razor Edge attack.
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>>376298417
This looks like an obnoxious homage to type-0.
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>>376298417
Why are you posting a menace dungeon against tonberries to prove anything in your favor? You aren't even arguing anything.
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>>376298572
>MFW he was frantically screaming Loki during the fight with him
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>>376298426
Kill yourself first, that is objectively true.

>>376298480
There is no indicator to negate damage, recoveries is purely manual, all the square button prompt does it tell you when an enemy is about to attack with an attack you can parry against, if you turn off the HUD it doesn't even show that square prompt anyway and you use your own timing to figure it out.
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>>376298426
You objectively do far more in FFXV from attack combos with directoinal inputs, warpstrikes, warps, aerial combat, dodges, blocks, aerial dodges, hit recoveries, attack cancelling through blink dodge, aerial combat, parries, counters, magic, armiger, linkstrikes, blindsides, techs, weapon switching with actual variety in combat through weapon types and royal arms, and with far more enemy variety too.

Fuck off Personafag
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>>376287689
Wasn't this game coming to PC? Why is it so fucking ugly holy crap
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>>376298780
Personatoddlers on suicide watch.
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>>376298629
Alright, I haven't played the DLC, and because of that, I will cede that there is exactly 1 hard fight in the entire game if you include all DLC available at the moment.

A single tough but fair fight doesn't redeem an otherwise piss-easy game, otherwise Drakengard would be considered good.

No idea where you got that I spoke about a 460 dollar DLC, though.
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>>376298815
It looks really good though.
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>>376298885
For some reason it pasted some old quote I pasted in a previous post in this thread instead of the sentence I highlighted from your post.

And even then, if you had no items or even only like 5 items max then everyone would be complaining that the main game is too hard. I see people popping potions like mad in videos meaning if you didn't have them everyone would be getting wrecked constantly.
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>>376298765
>all the square button prompt does it tell you when an enemy is about to attack
yes
>with an attack you can parry against
yes. negate all incoming damage and deal a considerable amount back
>if you turn off the HUD
Why would I make the game artificially harder for myself? Should I close my eyes too? The enemies are poorly telegraphed and they realized that, so they give you a prompt warning.
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>>376298926
and then you step outside
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>>376299023
Yeah. Tons of people complain about games being too hard. It's not like games treat beating a hard game like its a badge of honor.
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>>376298765
>if you turn off the HUD it doesn't even show that square prompt anyway and you use your own timing to figure it out.
If you close your eyes while playing then it's harder to parry too. I guess every realtime game is super hard now lol!
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>>376298780
>technical damage, status effects, Baton pass, Null Drain reflect damage types to customise personas, Hold up negotiations, All out attacks, demon compendium to store fusions, fusion system allows for customisable moves and uniqueness in personas used, several forms of damage like light dark fire ice electricity nuclear psychic, Social links giving boons like items, new negotiation options, switching out your 8 man party, exp shares for inactive members, stealth and ambushing
Oh look, I can list mechanics too. Quality over quantity man, explain how these mechanics are good then.
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>>376287689
I heard that the car driving was automated, which just destroyed my interest in the game.
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Persona 5 is better, because it's not a rushed-together clusterfuck of half-baked ideas on top of a miasma of fake hype and false starts.

Persona 5 had one unifying vision that persisted all through its development.

Persona 5 didn't announce a game before it was in development, start and stop three or four separate projects, canceling each in succession when a new engine came out, and then rush the final game to market obviously unfinished.
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>>376299050
You aren't negating it, you are preventing it if you do the parry counters when the square prompt is on screen and the follow up parry icon after you do the square prompt, that's preventing the enemy attack hitting and putting you into a parry counter. Negating it is if you do the Impervious recovery which is a manual thing without any prompt to do so.

> artificially harder
It isn't, it's the same amount of difficulty only the HUD is turned off, the indicator is there to do nothing more than to tell you when a parryable attack is about to happen, which you can already do perfectly with the HUD turn off anyway.
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>>376299237
Everything's fucking automated
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>>376291472
That's pro only tho
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>>376299280
Oh no.
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>>376299109
Fuck me, this can't be real.
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>Trying this hard to get people to like FFXV
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>>376299245
It took P5 five years to come out in the west though.
What P5 fails is in characters and group development.
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>>376299245
P5 was delayed several times and has no vision, the game contradicts itself at every turn. Kill yourself Personafag
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>>376299359
I've seen worse in other games.
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>>376299109
Why are you posting outdated pictures of the XB1 version of the game from months before the game was even released?

>>376299359
See above, he's a faggot shitposter posting old as fuck images from the XB1 version from before the game was even released.
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Trust me, coming from a Xenoblade Chronicles X fan, you don't want to argue with XV-kun. He will deny reality, cherry pick, use double standards, and pretend like he knows everything about any other game.

Just let him be.

XCX = P5 > FFXIV > FFXV
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>>376299139
People literally did complain to SE that episode duscae was too hard during the feedback thing, which is why SE even put in an easy mode into the game and made it so you can't get hit when using potions.

>>376299160
Why'd you reset your IP? And no turning off the HUD does nothing more than just turning off the HUD. See>>376299271
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>>376299521
>XCX = P5
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>>376299245
But that's wrong, P5 was delayed multiple times and had 5 years of development and everyting about is just looks like it's padded to fuck for artificial length, it's nothing but half baked ideas and tries to trick people into thinking it's good by having flashy menus and stylish poses.
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>>376299591
>it's nothing but half baked ideas
The first two palaces are actually really good though, it's starts getting half baked once Makoto joins the fray.
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if XV was more of a game than P5 then it speaks volume that most enjoyed P5 more than XV
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>>376299578
Okay, it might be slightly better
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>>376299521
We know that already, its just fun to poke him.
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>>376299470
>no vision
I dunno, effin shitty adults and the whole society is shit theme is prevalent through, even if it's a shit idea with weak characters.
>5/4
>probably around the strongest and more consistent points of the game
Trustworthy?
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I miss ignis posting in XV threads.
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>>376299684
I enjoyed both far more than XV, so I'm ok with that assessment.
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>>376287689
How much is top ramen and coleman paying you anyway?
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>>376299280
But that's wrong.
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>>376299714
He was the best.
>he isn't real
Why does life suck?
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>>376299684
P5 > XCX >>> heat death of the universe > XV

Would be my assessment.
WE'RE STUCK ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLANET
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>>376299727
It's all up to personal taste, whether you enjoy the heavier focus on story and structure, or you think non-linearity and freedom is better. They both had some really good soundtracks, both looked good, and both are leagues better than FFXV.
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>>376299364
I don't care if you like it, I'm calling fucks you out for desperately trying to shit on it while you try to shill your piece of shit game.

>>376299521
Fuck off Xenofag.
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I bet xv-kun is kind of nigger who does all timed quests in ffxv.
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>>376299714
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>>376299784
>Ignis will never prepare a homecooked meal for you
He deserved a better game.
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>>376299658
But most enjoyed XV more than P5, especially since more people played XV than P5 too.
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>>376299809
Get dunked on, my dude. You couldn't even beat the couple of fans of XCX. What makes you think you could take on a huge autistic fanbase like Persona's?
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>>376299271
>you are preventing (negating) it if you do the parry counters you when the square prompt is on screen and the follow up parry icon after you do the square prompt, that's preventing (negating) the enemy attack hitting and putting you into a parry counter.

>It isn't, it's the same amount of difficulty only the HUD is turned off
No it's not. If it were, there wouldn't even be a need for a button prompt. The default option from the start would be no prompt. It's optional because your making the game artificially more difficult. Tabata was aiming for casual combat that anyone could play, he even said so himself.You don't fucking see a prompt for witch-time, because the incoming enemy attacks are consistently telegraphed well to the player and not jarringly executed with no warning.
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>>376299796
None of them are close to as good as XV.

>>376299812
No I missed some of them.
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Because it's still an accurate representation of the game's graphics, just like webmrelated-which still happens in the game all the time.
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>No I missed some of them.
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>>376299834
>we failed to protect that smile
It hurts.
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>>376299858
But no one cares about XCX and XCX was forgotten the week it came out, the only time XCX fags even show themselves now are in FFXV threads desperately trying to look relevant.
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>>376299858
Was Elma a better protag than Noctis?
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>>376299772
More evidence of just how fucking directionless Tabata and the team are. You created Chocobos to alleviate the offroad frustration, yet now you go back on that decision, rendering Chocobo's completely useless.
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>>376299920
>The events that led to him being blinded are most likely being locked away behind paid DLC
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>>376299931
She had better clothes, so yes.
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>>376299931
If you can consider her a protagonist. She's halfway between protagonist and antagonist, really.

Still better written than Noctis, of course.
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>>376299796
Indeed. I think the only reason XV still gets talked about on here is because one guy can't get over the fact that FFXV is a worse game than Smart Ball.

Pic somewhat related, as that smile is similar to the one I give whenever someone says FFXV is an outstanding game.
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>>376299772
What the fuck, when I played the game you couldn't drive anywhere. Fuck square.
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>>376299982
Didn't his DLC came out already? Why is it taking so long?
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>>376300016
XV-Kun is honest-to-God worse than Barneyfag. He's got the sheer dedication and gumption of FLAOT-san, with the sheer autism of Barneyfag.
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>>376300069
I thought the only one to be released was Gladio's.
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>>376300097
That and the carnival, as far as I know.

Man, that carnival was stupid as hell, too.
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>>376299474
>"i-it's an old build, the game looks good guys"
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>>376299859
Preventing something and negating something aren't the same thing.

Negation is what impervious is, you get dealt 500 hp damage for example and you press the button to recover yourself with the recovery action which gives you back that 500 hp and puts you back into regular position.

Preventing is something like a dodge roll, block or a parry counter where you prevent the damage all together.

>No it's not.
Yes it is, see >>376299271 that was a parry counter done from an enemy off screen, you know the enemies make noises when they are about to do an attack you can parry right? You have more than enough other avenues to know you can parry besides just the button prompt telling you you can, turning it off you still have the enemies sounds/noises they make as well as for the ones you can see you can see when they are about to attack you for an attack you can parry.

Nothing is being made artificially difficult, you are turning off the HUD to remove screen clutter while the game still plays the game. In ED the parry prompt was just the spider sense yellow lines and they only swapped the icon for the full game to be the defense button instead, it doesn't even matter beause you don't need that because you know when an enemy is going to do an attack you can parry.

Like the MTs for example all make the robot beep noises and spark noises when about to parry attack you and they rip out their hards and right straight to you, even for the ones you can't see you can still hear them doing that and thus know you can parry it even without the button prompt.
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>>376300097
The only one to be released? But didn't they say that Gladio, Ignis and Prompto would have their own dlc? Did they scrap that idea?
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>>376300214
Yeah my bad, I meant to say the only one to be released thus far.
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>>376299907
No it fucking isn't, because that is outdated as fuck from builds months before the actual game was released. You can stop talking out your ass already Matt you lying cunt.
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>>376300214
They are just padding it out so that (hopefully) more suckers will pick up the game and pay for the DLC, rather than waiting for the release of the game and all DLCs for 20 dollars in a year or two (which will still be a ripoff).
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>>376299907
>>376300137
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>376300214
>you will never install a baby inside her.
Why is life so unfair.
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>>376287689
Post-game FFXV is an AMAZING game to play when you're high.

Versus XIII costumes when?
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>tfw to intelligent too enjoy FFXV
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>>376300154
>Preventing something and negating something aren't the same thing.
They literally are. Stop warping definition to suit your faulty argument.

>that was a parry counter done from an enemy off screen
Pure coincidence/luck. You wouldn't even be able to pull something like that off easily in NieR or Bayonetta. 90% of the time you wouldn't have a fucking clue and would get hit with minuscule warning.

>you know the enemies make noises when they are about to do an attack you can parry right?
Oh wow, well if it only weren't for the battle music, constant banter between your party and sound of the battle, maybe then I cold hear some vague semblance of noise that is supposed to represent a well telegraphed attack.
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>TFW to intelligent too enjoy FFXV
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>>376300279
I literally saw it all throughout my gameplay time at Galdin, Duscae, and the Jungle Ruins place. You can deny it but would make you a liar because I know other people have come across it too. It's ugly as fuck.
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>>376300015
No she isn't, nothing about her was well written or even good.

>>376299931
Fuck no.

>>376300016
>>376300092
Go kill yourself already.

>>376300137
>>376300318

Why are you still trying? That image you posted is from before the game was even out even still you fucking idiot.
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>>376300375
If you need your mind to be intoxicated in order to enjoy a game, then the game isn't very good.
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post xv-kun autistic face
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>>376300528
Yeah, sure. And I'll bet this one is too lol. I won't deny that it looks good sometimes, but it's very inconsistent and leans towards ugly majority of the time.
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>>376300528
She's got nice tiddies and a huge ass, but that's besides the point. She's also got a better voice actor than most of the characters in FFXV.
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>>376300528
>Go kill yourself already.
Take your own advice. Then we won't have one autist constantly starting FFXV threads as though the game is worth playing, let alone remembering.
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>>376300638
This.

The only time XV threads ever get more than 50 posts (at most) are when XV-kun shits it up
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>>376300528
>Go kill yourself already.
What exactly does this accomplish?
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>>376300626
I beat that game as Prompto.
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>>376300626
Xenoblade X's combat was amazingly fun. I don't know how FFXV could drop the ball so hard in comparison. Combat music is much better, too.

Oh, and hey, a couple of times, I actually hit a wall and wasn't able to negate 10 levels (let alone 100) simply by dodging and waiting for a counter, and needed to grind.
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>>376300448
No they aren't, one is preventing something all together while the other is negating something that did happen.


Dodge roll, parry counters and blocks all prevent damage being dealt to you.

Impervious negates teh damage dealt to you by recovering your HP and cancelling your damage knockback animation resetting you back to normal state.

>Pure coincidence/luck.
Nope. I recorded that myself and heard the enemy rip out its heart and make the noises that all the MTs make when going to do their parry attack, and I timed it correctly to parry right before it hit me.

And after you press square to parry you get a "circle" follow up attack, which you get follow up "circle" prompt attacks too even just from not even doing anything.

Maybe you're just deaf of something because the enemy noises are always clear and easy to hear regardless of battle music or party banter.
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>>376300912
Not who you were responding to, but I played FFXV on mute the majority of the time. Didn't care for the VA or the music, so I just played NieR's OST (the original - not automata) while the rest of the game was on mute. Only so many times I can hear the same handful of bland songs without either muting the TV and playing other music, or turning the game off.

Bad music is as bad in video games as bad acting is in movies.
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>>376288382
It's really easily fixed by just saying "Gods dammit" or "By the gods"

Also, slightly unrelated but for some reason, i've noticed furries say "Gods dammit" or "By the goddess"
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>>376299470
At least P5 feels like a consistent game. FFXV feels like 35 different seperate set pieces and 4 games that have been haphazardly pieced together in a random order with barely-there exposition to try and tie them together.
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>>376300621
No, that's from December though which is before multiple patches have came to the game. Nice try though.

>>376300626
Her ass and tits are smaller than Gentiana or Aranea's, Cidney has bigger tits and Luna also has bigger ass than her too. Her VA is shit too especially compared to the actual god tier VAs used in XV, Miyuki Sawashiro for Aranea alone is better than shitty Elma.

>>376300906

Nothing in XCX is fun nor is the combat even close to as good as XV, and XCX had absolute trash music, shitty rap with techno shit. Just pure ear rape.
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>>376301168
Yeah sure you did faggot, no one believes you because no one would ever mute the god tier music in XV. But hey you're just desperate to get a rise out of me. I can just as easily say I muted the music in Automata and played XVs OST, or muted the music in P5 and played XVs OST too, see how this works faggot?
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>>376301338
>XCX had absolute trash music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbh3lLi1ZY
Way to disregard your entire post.
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>>376301214
When you summon sometimes Ignis says "by the grace of the gods go we mere mortals".
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>>376301423
Wow that is so bad, Sawano dropped the ball on XCX, it's not even close to as good as his SnK music.
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>>376301214
You can invoke a single deity in a polytheistic religion. Maybe they have a specific one in mind. Japan says kamisama all the time even though they have millions of gods to choose from.
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>>376301445
>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/there_but_for_the_grace_of_God_go_I
>Allegedly from a mid-sixteenth-century statement by John Bradford, "There but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford", in reference to a group of prisoners being led to execution.

Interesting, a subtle hint towards Noctis's fate.
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>>376301506
I suppose, it just seems a bit weird to not call out that specific god you have in mind. I mean it's like falling in a river when you're with a group of 6 friends, and you try to grab a specific friend's attention by shouting "FRIEND!" instead of like "Jake" or "Richie"
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>>376301338
>Nothing in XCX is fun nor is the combat even close to as good as XV,
Nah. I played XCX for over a hundred hours, and had fun the entire time.
>and XCX had absolute trash music.... Just pure ear rape.
Pretty sure you're talking about XV's music. I mean, I literally spend over 100 bucks on the Limited Edition NieR OST, which comes with every single track in every single form, and I wouldn't take XV's OST for free. If it was forced on me, I'd throw it in the trash before removing the plastic wrapping. It's a shit OST, with the only good tracks sounding like Skyrim variants. This shit OST is only mitigated by the fact that you could at least play better music in the car and on your MP3 player.

Also, the voice acting was shit. I can't tell you how many fucking times they repeated the EXACT same lines. Once every time or two I get in the fucking car, "I may have asked you this before, but are these good? " "I might have answered, but yes." Whether it's combat, driving, or just walking around, the same couple of lines over and over and OVER and OVER. At least XCX only did that in combat as a way of signaling which kind of attack you should use (which means it had a fucking point, unlike XV's shitty "dialogue."

XV was really fucking easy to mute, and I don't regret doing it.
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>>376301626
I think we both know only Richie thinks of you as a friend.
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>>376287689
FFVIII was better than P5 in every aspect. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
BDW everything after ff9 is shit.
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>>376301642
Yeah good job just exposing how much shit taste you have if you think Somnus, Omnis Lacrima, Invidia, Veilved in Black, Hellfire, Nox Divina, Stand your Ground, Dawn, etc are somehow bad, they are easily among the best tracks in any JRPG ever. In fact Hellfire alone is easily the best boss battle theme in any JRPG, bar none. The voice acting is also so well fucking done that they actually feel like real people, meanwhile XCX has such trash voice acting and the character you play as is literally not even a character, you're just watching others do shit that matters nothing towards you. Also just because there is repeated dialog doesn't somehow make it bad either you fucking retard. Every game with dialog has repeated dialog, at least XV actually cares to put good VAs in it with effort put into their performances. XCX is abysmal in every aspect it can't even come close to being as good as XV in anything.

XCX is what you call a mutable game because of that shitty rap techno trash that Sawano for some reason thought was good, he peaked at his SnK OST. Meanwhile XV has some of the best tracks in JRPG history.
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>>376301757
VIII is bottom 3 in the series though.
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>>376301757
I have to sit down and think before I can come up with a bigger disappointment than XV. It's just so bland and forgettable.
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>>376287689
that looks dumb as fuck
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>>376301840
You sad IGN drone.
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>>376301843
Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true. Bland and forgettable is a game like XCX.
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>>376301901
>People whose first FF was VIII are old enough to post on /v/
VIII was the XV of the PSX era.
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>>376287949
That god, too, is fiction
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>>376301843
P5 for one.
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>>376301935
XV is the FF6 of this era.
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>>376302002
VI was finished though.
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>>376301838
At least link the tracks you repeat over and over, all I remember is the damn boss theme and that battle theme in celigne and duscae
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>>376301935
Wat?
First ff is 7, but I played em all.

BDW FUCK IGN and Square enix. FF is dead.
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>>376302083
There is as much backstory to the characters in that as there is in XV. It's not any more unfinished or finished than XV is.
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>>376301838
I've listened to XV-kun spout the same handful to tracks over and over. They literally all suck ass.

>In fact Hellfire alone is easily the best boss battle theme in any JRPG, bar none.
Laughably wrong. It was just an inserted generic epic opera, which has been done countless times before by square, and will be done countless times again.

>Also just because there is repeated dialog doesn't somehow make it bad either you fucking retard
True, which is why I forgave it in XCX, because the repeated dialogue had a point. In XV, they may as well have said, "So, Noct, this is a video game, and you've been sitting around for the past ten minutes watching someone else drive the car, and we can't have you sit in silence too long, so here is some generic commentary that you have heard a dozen times before." "Thanks."

>XCX is abysmal in every aspect it can't even come close to being as good as XV in anything.
Except for being fun to play and enjoyable to listen to, which simply by being better than "horrid," makes it better than XV.

>Meanwhile XV has some of the best tracks in JRPG history.
The only thing XV is notable for is looking pretty, and that means it will be forgotten within a couple of years, as graphics will always improve.
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>>376302002
XV is the FF2 of this era, and they will fuck neo ff7
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>>376302217
XV is the King's Knight or Mystic Quest of this era.
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>>376300912
Like I said. You got lucky. What you did is not something common to pull off amidst a dense battle. Sometimes, shit is so fucking hectic and the camera is just so bad that the prompt is the only way to keep you from not pulling your hair out. No one is going to memorize hundreds of little audible ques, let alone listen for it while trying to focus on the battle, to parry an poorly telegraphed attack. Nier has a universal visual telagraph que for all enemies, alongside a universal audible que. Their eyes flash with a unmissable, bright red, they noticeably wind up, and you can hear a robotic murmurs before they strike.
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>>376302352
Yeah, if by that you mean the fun of King's Knight and the challenge of FF Mystic Quest.
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>>376302090
All fucking god tier, you can stop bullshiting and being a contrarian faggot already.

https://youtu.be/fW8ud0179ls
https://youtu.be/spZBPuLnSeo
https://youtu.be/L6TycTt7DzY
https://youtu.be/w0IFXsaF39w
https://youtu.be/K9t9aPriDts
https://youtu.be/bJoQ0KkHNCE
https://youtu.be/G7Sq5Dri_1w
https://youtu.be/BbnPlyqI014
https://youtu.be/cwRRxJAtTMo
https://youtu.be/UGq5KNZxz7A
https://youtu.be/yj1RY7bCaO4
https://youtu.be/buL8u8Y2NHY
https://youtu.be/ICb3vtTWt-E
https://youtu.be/bdK8NXsMOdA
https://youtu.be/mLtoNJWSpcI
https://youtu.be/IUMcJE2-VyQ
https://youtu.be/BMwzJ2xjeAY
https://youtu.be/4lnGUgAPywg
https://youtu.be/nZ6trELAk80
https://youtu.be/fdG29qLBizE
https://youtu.be/TOHvQSYleuU
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>>376302451
wrong
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>Persona 5 is turn-based
>FFXV isn't

Persona 5 is the clear winner here, OP.
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>>376302451
Not him, but I've played the game. The OST isn't good. My least favorite track is the one that starts with a recorder. Thank goodness it plays almost every morning!
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>>376302451
I think XV is one of the weaker OSTs but Hellfire is probably the best boss theme I've ever heard. Up For the Challenge and Veiled in Black are good too but not as good as Blinded by Light or Man With the Machine Gun.
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>>376302528
>Hellfire is probably the best boss theme
Try playing Skyrim. You'll hear something similar every time you fight a dragon.
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Instead of asking an obvious question, like "How much better is Persona 5 in comparison to FFXV," let's ask a real question:

Would you rather play XV all the way through again, or pass a kidney stone?
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>>376302502
well
FF8>P5>shit>FF15
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>>376287982
>Persona 5: 81% total
>Final Boy Band Faggotry: 19% total
Boy Band game BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.
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>>376302564
>Try playing Skyrim.
Got bored after 3 hours.
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>>376302180
You are just saying they suck because you are a contrarian faggot, you have no actual argument and are triggered because they are god tier.

> It was just an inserted generic epic opera
Post a single battle theme better than Hellfire, I'll wait. None come close to the level of intensity and drive or the climax that Hellfire has.

>because the repeated dialogue had a point.
But the repeated dialog has a point in every fucking game you stupid fucking retard, its dialog for a specific thing that get repeated when the specific thing happens. You are literlaly being contrarian again just for the sake of it.

>Except for being fun to play and enjoyable to listen to
Where is the fun music to play and listen to? It's all bland ambience or shitty techno rap, nothing even comes close to even having a memorable melody, theme, character theme or identiy, meanwhile all of the main tracks in XV all do and are memorable for being extremely well done as a result.

Nothing about XCX is even memorable, other than maybe the fact that it's so forgettable. XV alreasy is being remembered as the FF that reignited the FF franchise, being the FF and JRPG that has the best graphics, will still have the best graphics once it comes to PC as no other JRPG will even come close other than say FF16, which is the natural course of action that should happen, and also has some of the best JRPG cast ever with the best villain in FF yet, and a god tier OST that is already being played in concerts worldwide. Where is the XCX concert?
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>>376288517
Anything is better than Berseria which is just another mediocre anime game with shitty gameplay and pathetic predictible dialogues.
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>>376302701
Don't know how, if you didn't get bored playing XV. Both are more or less equal. Actually, scratch that. Skyrim doesn't have fences and invisible walls everywhere to make the game seem bigger than it really is.
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>>376302217
XV is the FF6 of this era.
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>>376302701
Well, you have 1,5 h of the loading screen tho keep you happy
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>>376302778
>*FFXV is the Sonic '06 of this era

ftfy
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>>376302810
Kek
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>>376293096
>just because you can climb on rocks doesn't mean BOTW doesn't have invisible walls.

BOTW dont have invisible walls, except for the four map-ends.
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>>376302775
>Skyrim doesn't have fences and invisible walls everywhere to make the game seem bigger than it really is.
Reminder people actually defend this.
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>>376297052
You meant FFXV's walking and driving with some gays are better than actual gameplay. Or you calling gameplay one button boring action without any sense?
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>this was fucking real
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>>376302426
Like I said, I didn't because I could hear it coming and timed my action accordingly, it is not only extremely common but isn't any harder to do than if the prompt was there because you'd still be able to know when you can parry or not because you can hear it and/or see when enemies are about to do an attack you can parry.

In cases where shit does get too hectic that is what you use things like Impervious for, to negate your damage. Just because you're too stupid to recognize basic ques doesn't mean fuck, anyone can do it and it happens so quickly that you don't have to try to focus on it either because those noises are deliberately louder than others, again how the fuck is the MT which first pulls its heart out then start running in your direction with its hand out and extended with sparks flying off it not a "telegraphed" attack? What about it wasn't telegraphed? There is as much visual telegraphing there than any Nier enemy has?

How the fuck is the Hobgoblin which winds up its punch until it then punches you not a telegraphed attack?

Even in that clip you just posted you can see when the enemies are about to swing and attack because you can fucking see them swinging.
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>>376302810
My fucking sides.
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Both P5 and FFXV failed to match their hype
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FF XV is a mediocre game
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>>376303038
Low key Hifumi thread?
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>>376302810
Holy shit
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>>376303078
I'm down for some Hifumi action
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>>376302451
True, XV got some of the best tracks in FF and JRPG OSTs.
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>>376302726
>You are just saying they suck because you are a contrarian faggot
if I was contrarian, I would be going against the grain of what people on this board consider good. If anything, you're the contrarian.

>Post a single battle theme better than Hellfire.
No-win scenario. Literally anything I post will get shat on by you, because you are so head over heals for this game. Plus, I don't owe you anything. So instead, I'll say that this music is more interesting (if less pleasant): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9iP3luS_ek

>But the repeated dialog has a point in every fucking game you stupid fucking retard, its dialog for a specific thing that get repeated when the specific thing happens. You are literlaly being contrarian again just for the sake of it.
What is the benefit of asking Ignis if he likes his coffee soda or someone telling "Warming up." Please, explain the point. Tell me why that needs to be there over and over again.

>XV alreasy is being remembered as the FF that reignited the FF franchise,
According to you. And if other FF's are going to be similar, then let me know now, so I can bail on the franchise.
>being the FF and JRPG that has the best graphics
Every FF is the best JRPG graphically when it releases. This is nothing new.

>Where is the XCX concert?
Is having a concert what makes an OST good? I've heard pretty middling OSTs get concerts, like ActRaiser.
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>>376302810
>Knuckles' face
Every time.
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>>376303157
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>>376295891
Are you gay or something? Your shitty flirt is annoying, go home to /pol.
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>>376302451
Pure kino is music form.
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>>376302726
Not him, but this track all by itself is better than anything FFXV has, and its not even my favorite in XCX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwTebN-QCq8&index=16&list=RDvGUaVZN2ttw
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>>376302502
That's exactly why XV is objectively superior.
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>>376302810
How will XV-kun ever recover?
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>>376302524
It is good, you just have shit taste. Wanderlust is better than any jazz funk shit in P5.
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>>376302564
>wow three seconds of chord progression are slightly similar it's totally skyrim
Ok by this logic P5 is every shitty jazz funk trash from the 80s ever that literally no one gives a fuck about nor thinks is good.
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>>376303375
>Wanderlust is better than
Gonna stop you there. Wanderlust is on par with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCPj4JPbKtA

If you can't admit that, then your opinion regarding music is worthless.
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>>376302623
Play XV again > kidney stone > slog through P5 again
And I've passed a kidney stone before.
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>>376303449
You seem a little upset who hurt you my dude
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>>376303375
>>376303449
>jazz funk
Either you don't know jazz funk is or you haven't listened to P5's OST.
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>>376302002
but 6 is the best game of every era
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P5 has much more interesting music. Take the boss theme for example, it blends rough timbres and a cool bass line to match the momentum of a battle. Omnis Lacrima is good but nothing we haven't seen before from Shimomura.
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>>376303539
probably both
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>>376303483
Huh. I'd rather play Drakengard 1, 2, and 3 to completion than play XV again, and I'd rather pass a kidney stone than play any of those games to completion again.
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>>376302775
>>376302920
You're literally the only person that keeps going on about this, no one gives a fuck because it doesn't affect anything in the long run. Everyone can tell you havn't even played XV anyway so it's not like you'd know, you just scoured the net for any complain against XV then you regurgitate it without having even played the game.
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>>376302810
>>376302856
>>376303002
>>376303094
>>376303260
>>376303367

Except Luna coming to Noctis's side and holding him happens after the fight with Leviathan, and Noctis gaining the power of kings happens before Luna comes to his side. The fights themselves are also nothing alike either.
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>>376302870
>except for where it does.
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>>376303662
Stop crying for some shitpost fucko
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I get people not liking persona 5. Its a niche title. But saying XV is good? Thats just wrong.
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>>376303601
Well, you've just tagged 2 different people in your posts, so....
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>>376302957
You mean P5s walking through copy pasted corridors with gay highschool twinks is actual gameplay? Or are you calling pressing options to win without any sense gameplay?
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>>376302996
The audible ques in XV are variable and change from enemy to enemy, and attack to attack. There is no universal audible que that I can store in my head for reference, and it's too difficult to keep track of, especially when you're fighting a mob filled with different kinds of enemies. You can remember MTs, sure, but this isn't a strategy I would bet battles on. Since I can't rely on visual ques either, as they are inconsistent with some enemies literally lunging at you in the blink of an eye, or making sudden attacks like the Yojimbo, I don't see myself turning off HUD any time soon, as it would only make the game needlessly harder.

>Even in that clip you just posted you can see when the enemies are about to swing and attack because you can fucking see them swinging.

Bullshit. I've watched it countless times, while trying to imagine myself playing with no HUD. I still can't even tell where the first attack comes from and there is no way I would hear the back attack coming.
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>>376303764
>You mean P5s walking through copy pasted corridors
t. hasn't played P5 >b-b-but mementos!!!
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>>376303764
Its not the best game ever, but its WAY more entertaining than XV.
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What year is it? lmao
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>>376299280
except the button to start the autonomation
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>400+ replies
>75 IP's
Gee i wonder who could be autistically defending XV like his life depended on it ITT.
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>>376303945
not me
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>>376303886
^This. But then, inserting and then removing a splinter from your penis is more entertaining and less painful than playing XV. Now granted, the splinter in the dick would cause more immediate pain, but I would rather do that because it would also end much sooner.
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>>376303214
You are, since the majority of people agree that XV has a god tier OST, you are literally being contrarian to that notion.

Anything I post from XV will just be shat on you because you are being a contrarian cunt, you havn't even played the game let alone even heard the OST by he way you talk about it. Then you go and bring up some random shit that has nothing to do with anything because you're such a fucking retard.

And here again you've just shown everyone you haven't even touched the game because Ignis says nothing about soda and you never ask Ignis anything about soda. Why are you triggered over minute repeated dialog which is sitll fucking less compared to the amount of dialog repeated in XCX and P5? Keep being a contrarian cunt who hasn't even touched the game though.

>so I can bail on the franchise.
You're better off just killing yourself to save yourself from the embarrassment you're going to make in your next post.

>This is nothing new.
So what the fuck is your point in saying "durr XV won't have best when new games come out" so the fuck what? That's like saying in 2035 when FFXX is out or whatever that that will have the best graphics so you can't say XV does. Your arguments are extremely invalid if this is your line of reasoning.

What's that? XCX doesn't have a concert? Oh it must be shit then since no one cares enough about XCXs OST to even give it one let alone play it at one. And it's not like Sawano hasn't had concerts before, SnK has concerts, so why can't XCX? Can't be because it's OST is so forgettable and no one cares about XCX.
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>>376303945
It's pretty obvious too
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When I was doing that Ramuh section, it just hit me.

XV is awful. It feels like the Sonic 06 of Final Fantasy.
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>>376303339
That track doesn't even come close to Invidia and that's not even my favorite XV track.
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>>376303945
That's the only time XV threads ever come back to life.
When an Australian shitposts.
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>>376288483
>mentions of "The Wall" and refugees in Kingsglaive
>secretary of state looks a lot like Clinton which would've been a considered a shoutout if she had won

How closely does Japan follow our politics I wonder?
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>>376304070
>>376302810
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>>376303473
You clearly haven't even heard Wanderlust if you honestly think that. Wanderlust has clear wild west thematic elements in its track which you'd know if you had even heard it.
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>literally still no update after all this time

Am I going to have to wait 10 years for Gentiana lewds too?
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>>376303539
P5 OST is literally jazz funk.

https://youtu.be/fDVwUMopO_4
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>>376304273
Technically the genre is called club jazz.
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>>376303562
P5 music sounds like generic try hard funk that doens't fit as a boss or battle music or for anything that isn't some shit played in an elevator. XVs music fits thematically and has an identity through melody, and also has sections of the songs that match to different sections of the battle theme. For example Hellfire is split into four sections depending on the different part of the battle you are at and goes from dark ominous to heroic and triumphant all in the same battle to the crescendo at the end to perfectly climax it all by evoking Gentiana's theme at the moment she is summoned mixed into the battle theme itself.
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>>376304441
You are just the same guy all the time aren't you
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>>376304441
>most of the boss tracks are rock like Keeper of Lust or willpower
>shit is hype as fuck
>all boss/battle themes need to be generic orchestra
I kindly disagree.
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>>376303662
imagine being this autistic
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>>376303874
Multiple floors in regular dungeons are copy pasted over and over you fuckstain.

Can you tell me exactly where this is in the 1st Palace? No because it looks identical to multiple parts of the dungeon because it is just copy pasted.

And then Mementos are copy pasted even more so which makes it worse.

>>376303886
Nothing about it is.

>>376304005
You're describing something more entertaining than playing P5.
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>>376304520
Of course it fucking is. You can tell by how much of a wanker he sounds like from his choice of words.
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>>376304549
>repeating the same shit over and over
Funny coming from him
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>>376304441
Actually the lack of using NOCTIS and Somnus throughout the soundtrack was kind of disappointing. I don't the think the former ever works its way into another song and I don't recall Somnus being invoked in anything other than Magna Insomnia.

>>376304529
>TFW All Out Attack lines up with 1:45 in Will Power
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>>376304028
>You are, since the majority of people agree that XV has a god tier OST
I've never seen any sort of concesus on that. Just one or two people who defend everything about the game, as well as a handful of others that say one or two songs aren't bad.

>Anything I post from XV will just be shat on you because you are being a contrarian cunt
Nah. It'll be shat on by me because it isn't that good. You want some real good boss music? Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWSkW8TKrXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEbfDtDaUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiDI4GZMVF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gN-rUxtio&list=PLF44C13F035840D9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06EXCf5zXUk&list=PLF44C13F035840D9A&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsefax53YP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB9Pym-sdbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNUgzfhUm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSS2FnvLDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqEmRjtTVzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmYSy9U78Sc
That's just off the top of my head as shit that is more memorable and better.

Not even going to respond to the rest of your shitty post, because its nothing but baseless accusations, shy of this:

>So what the fuck is your point in saying "durr XV won't have best when new games come out" so the fuck what?
Good games are timeless. FF6 and 7 look like shit, but are still loved. Your game won't be as soon as the next FF releases.
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>>376287689
The only thing FFXV had over P5 is how good it looks. It hurts to see my once favourite franchise getting more and more shit as each installment comes out.
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>>376304558
>Can you tell me exactly where this is in the 1st Palace?
It's after you leave the room with the Archangel fight and if you go to the right at the end of the hallway you can unlock a locked door in the previous room as a shortcut.

Also using 'fuckstain' makes you come across as a 12 year old.
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>>376304558
>That pic
Oh, look. A feature that was supposed to be in XV, but got cut.
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>>376287689
Why the fuck do you keep coming back 15-kun ? Just find a nice noose and put (you) out of our misery.
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>>376303773
Every enemy type has set cues, set actions they do for their parryable attacks, one MT isn't suddenly going to not do what the other MT did do.

You can easily fucking ascern the cues from a single time it happens, nothing about it is difficult, only thing you're doing is proving you're a fucking retard who can't even do such a basic thing then tries to cry about artificial difficulty because you rely on button prompts then fucking complain about button prompts, how about you then just turn off the HUD then you cunt? Stop being a flip flopping faggot and suck it up and get gud. All you've done this entire time is prove you know literally nothing about the game and are crying about the fact that you have the option to turn off the HUD which only serves to make it less hand holdy, not less easier, it's still the same level of difficulty. Not only that but the fact that you can cancel attack into defend by unlocking blink means you can pretty much never miss a parry because you'll always be able to attack your current action into a block to parry, then follow up with a counter.

>imagine
So you are such a shit stain you haven't even actually tried it without the HUD.
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>>376304694
I feel the same way.
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>>376304741
Maybe he'll get to see the boy band in heaven. Then they can go camping and talk about how totally straight they are.
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>>376304070
You can stop resetting your IP.

>>376303945
Because this thread is Matt samefagging and resetting his IP, and P5 kiddies triggered that XV is better than P5.
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It's been awhile since barry's sperged this hard
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>>376304754
See: >>376296524
Your insults hurt nobody, and only make you look even more pathetic, XV-kun.
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>>376304819
>XV is better than P5.
Literally no one thinks this though, P5 is being hailed as the pinnacle of the genre and XV is a mediocre open world meme game that's unfinished.
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>>376304741
I've never actually wanted somebody on 4chan to kill themselves before XV-kun. I would actually crack a beer with a smile if he killed himself, though.
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I miss the release threads
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>>376304520
As opposed to the faggot I'm responding to somehow not being the same guy?

>>376304615
Fuck off you cancerous shit stain.

>>376304529
There isn't any good battle music in P5. It's all so bland and forgettable.
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>>376304864
>Literally only XV-kun thinks this though.
FTFY.
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>>376304937
>YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING
>Forgettable
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>>376304960
I prefer BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY
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>>376304960
Remember that to XV-kun, literally every single song NOT on XV sounds like sticking a fork in a garbage disposal to him, and every song that IS on XV sounds like God himself has decided to play a ballad just for XV-kun.

It's safe to completely ignore his tastes.
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Picked up a ps4 for persona 5 and was thinking about final fantasy but I'd rather just wait for the pc release
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>>376305013
>not IM NOT A PRINCESS
You have shit taste but I respect it.
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>>376304648
>Actually the lack of using NOCTIS and Somnus throughout the soundtrack was kind of disappointing.
What?

Somnus is literlaly used througout the game and is itself used as a leitmotif in Dawn itself, which is used as a leitmotif in NOCTIS. Somnus plays every time you get a royal arm, is used as a leitmotif in various key moments of the game, and plays again during Insomnia and then as arrangements during the final battle and final scene where Noctis dies, where Dawn is played in between those which again uses leitmotif of Somnus, and Dawn also has different arrangements in the game too used across the game.

Somnus is a song tied to the royal family, Dawn is a song tied to Regis which leitmotif from Somnus, and NOCTIS uses a leitmotif from Dawn which gives you the sense of his struggle between his duty as king (hence the Dawn leitmotif) and the more seafaring tone of the track. Dawn as a piano reprise also plays during ch2 in the scene with Cid when he talks about Regis, and every time you get a royal arm an arrangement of Somnus plays.
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>>376287689
Really, XV-kun? People stopped shitting on your game, so you needed to make a blatant bait thread?
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>>376305141
Who'd you think makes the BerseriavP5vXV threads over and over.
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>>376304659
You're just going to keep bullshit now aren't you? You are the only person in existence who is actively trying to shit on XVs OST for who knows what fucking reason.

Just keep on proving you have no actual valid argument or anything to actuall contribude, you're just being a contrarian bullshitting faggot triggered that XV has better OST than P5 and XCX. XV is already a well loved game, and that's what hurts you so much.
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>>376305128
>What?
Did I stutter?
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>>376304702
But you can crouch behind things in XV, it's literally done in the tutorial of the game. You'd know that if you played it.
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>>376305213
>XV is a well loved game
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>>376304864
Literally everyone thinks this though. P5 is being hailed as no such thing by anyone who isn't some fucking weeb desperate to validate shitty turn based console games.
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>>376305213
>that XV has better OST than P5 and XCX.
Last I checked only one of those games had this song in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDiHZiBtpE
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>>376305213
>You are the only person in existence who is actively trying to shit on XVs OST for who knows what fucking reason.
Not him. It's nothing special. Nowhere near a contender of best OST even within FF, let alone all time.
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>>376305043
Remember that you are so completely triggered over the fact that XV has a god tier OST that you are so butt blasted you're even making up this cancerous shitpost because you can't deal with that fact.
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>>376288382
>fictional world
>characters speak english

this irks me so fucking much
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>>376305272
Only responding to you in order to try and bump this thread to its limit.
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>>376305358
>Remember that you are so completely triggered over the fact that XV has a god tier OST
Nah, son. It sucks.
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>>376305141
>>376305272
Nice lack of new IP.

>>376305335
Is shit compared to Hellfire.
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>>376287689
Persona 5 is the high school life you always wanted, but never had.

FFXV is just shit. FFXV NEEDS a constant 60 fps with 4k. It hasn't. But if you ask why: FFXV is made to immerse yourself in the beautiful world, where everything is made to look like a beautiful movie. If the game has frame issues it is shit.
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>>376305358
>fact
Music is an entirely subjective medium though, the approach XV and P5 took for their soundtracks are radically different so it doesn't surprise me that some people acknowledge P5 as the better OST.
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>>376297084
Doing any of that shit in the video is hard as fuck though. I don't know how he keeps up with the enemies movements and knows when to use the coolest attacks, plus locking on to different things while air dancing i never got the hang of.
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>>376305408
It's actually god tier.
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>>376305408
Nah it's great.
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>>376305414
>Nice lack of new IP.
What does this even mean?
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>>376305414
You're one to talk about samefagging
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>>376305414
Nice lack of new IP.
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>>376305414
>Hellfire
Is this the only good song from the OST or something?
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>>376305414
Who'd come here other than the same people arguing at you since the start?
>>376305480
Everyone is Matt or something.
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>>376305452
P5 is the highschool life you never wanted and don't want.

XV is the bros you wish you had but don't, going on a trip you wish you could but can't.
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>>376305462
>>376305473
It's not awful, like Drakengard, or anything, but its nothing special, even within the realm of FF.

I'm really just responding at this point to try and bait more "Yeah huhs" so that the thread will reach the bump limit faster, and XV kuns thread can slide into oblivion.
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>>376305517
>Everyone is Matt or something.
Who is Matt?
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>>376305480
It means that guy is samefagging.

>>376305495
Hey look it's the samefag.
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>>376305554
You.
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>>376305515
see >>376302451
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>>376305554
We're Matt.
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>>376305554
XV-kun's arch nemesis of the month.

>>376305572
That's nice, dear.
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>>376305572
Yes xv-kun samefags, we all knew this
Ironic really considering how he accuses everyone else of doing it
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>>376305524
>XV is the bros you wish you had but don't, going on a trip you wish you could but can't.
Not really. If that was the case, I would be happy with the game. I've got an insecure dude in a skirt/kilt, a shirtless muscle man who is an asshole, and a blind dude that lectures and cooks.
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>tfw XV is genuinely one of my favorite FFs
>Everyone hates it
My favorite is the one lots of people love though. VI.
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>>376305517
It's literally the same faggot Matt, resetting his IP, and you shitposting your cancerous bullshit because you're triggered that XV is better than P5.
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>>376305597
No, I'm Matt who are you?
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>>376305629
Alpharius.
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>>376287689
oh its the fxv kun, im sorry but final fantasy 15 sucked dick, its a good game but a bad final fantasy. Terrible characters and story execution compared to previous titles.
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>>376292804
Shut the fuck up you lieing nigger. I did ever fucking hunt and side quest I could stomache trying to pad my fucking gametime and I still ended up finishing in 20 hours. Fuck off and die you lieing piece of fucking shit.
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>>376305529
It's god tier in every way, among the best FF OSTs yet.

>>376305613
Fuck off Matt.
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>>376305524
>not wanting to pick up cakes
Your loss man. Better than dying after losing 10 years in my opinion.
>>376305554
Some guy on YouTube comments who he believes is everyone against XV.
He changes between several.
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>>376305627
>that XV is better than P5.
94 vs 81.
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>>376305629
I'm apparently Matt, according to this guy>>376305597

Even though I don't even have an M or any Ts in my first, middle, or last name.
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>>376305669
You can stop lying you stupid cunt.

>>376305676
>metacritic matters
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>>376305673
I'm actually considering begining to RP as Matt from now on just to fuck with you.

Also, the OST is average for FF, and middling for the video game industry as a whole. I'm not defending P5's, as I haven't heard it yet (beginning my playthrough this weekend), but FFXV's OST isn't good by any stretch. It just has a couple of high notes.
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>>376305524
>bros you wish you had

They weren't even Noctis' bros. They were just fulfilling their duties and obeying the King. What are they supposed to do? Not listen to Regis? And the only reason they stuck around with Noct and protected him is because he was the only one that could end the scourge and save Insomnia. There was no comraderie. Noctis was a means to an end and the guys realized this so they put up with him until got the job done. Notice how for ten fucking years, the guys couldn't do shit because Noctis wasn't around. Only when he came back was it time to go stop the scourge.
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>>376305719
>Metacritic matters
It does when you use it to say that XV is the best FF game ever.
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>>376305673
>among the best FF OSTs yet.
VI,VII,VIII,X,XIII all have better ones though.
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>>376305787
Agreed, which means, at best that it's 6th out of 15. Which is almost the exact definition of average.
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>>376296826
>I've never played anything more vomit-inducing and clunky in my life
Well, I did my friend and it was any Platinum Games title, literally
And I don't even give a fuck about XV, Capcom is the only one that makes good combat nowadays
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Is he gone?
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>>376305719
Shut up you cock sucking shill. Your favorite game is shit. No one fucking like you on /v/. No one fucking likes you in real life. No girl will ever fuck you. No guy will for that matter either. Die alone you pathetic piece of actual shit.
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>this thread hit limit


More proof that the only XV threads that thrive are shitpost bait threads.
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>>376301423
>Good music
>Sounds like a throwaway song from an MMO
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>>376287689

I love both games but P5 is much better and you're a moron with shit taste.
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>>376304028
>You are, since the majority of people agree that XV has a god tier OST, you are literally being contrarian to that notion.
Honestly the OST is "alright" some tracks are great while others are super bland. In dungeons I try and pick a dungeon song from a previous FF from the iPOD which was usually from either FF2, 3, or 8. Chobobo theme I've heard probably the most out of all the themes, since you couldn't play it there until a short while ago.

For the most part whenever I wasn't in town, the game's BGM wasn't even as good as monster hunter. It's "good" in a way that a movie soundtrack might be. Some weird abstract standard based only on sound design, where as I can play a random song from the FF7 soundtrack and automatically a picture is painted of what's happening.
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>>376306697
The only threads that thrive period are bait and offtopic. Make a thread about pepperoni pizza and it'll probably get the most posts out of any threads you've ever created.
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EVERY FINAL FANTASY GAME FROM NOW UNTIL FOREVER WILL BE COMPARED ENDLESSLY TO XV, ON /V/ IN SIMILAR KIND OF THREADS.
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>>376287689
You're not even trying anymore. If you want people to talk about XV then do it without starting a thread made for shitposting, but that seems to be impossible for you
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>tfw today is exactly 11 years since Versus XIII was announced
>tfw will never ever get to play Insomnia invasion with a more grounded and mature version of KH II gameplay

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