>PC game >"Use of a controller is highly recommended"

>spend years begging for a console game to get a PC release
>cry about it recommending you use a controller rather than kb+m

>>376273623
So you don't have to fucking buy a console you ungrateful motherfucker

Fuck off. Some genres are better with a controller. There's no reason to keep all controller-friendly games on inferior hardware.

What's really bad is when the developer recommends the use of a controller when mouse and keyboard is superior. Gauntlet is one example (at least if you're playing with the wizard).

If you're trying to play PC games in one particular way only with no choices in the matte4, then you're fucking doing it wrong.

>>376274014
this.

Keyboard and mouse isn't ideal for many genres.

>>376273623
Wow what do you know it's almost like KB&M and Controllers are very different and some games work better on either side than the other! Isn't that crazy? I just can't believe it!

>>376273623
100% guaranteed you're one of those fags who cries hardest when a decent game is console exclusive and starts petitions for PC port.

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>>376273623
What PC gamer doesn't have at LEAST two controllers? Hate these new generation posers.

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Some kinds of games work better with controllers. Why not go for that instead of being butthurt, or gimping yourself with worse controls for the situation?

>>376273623
Why post a pic of a guy burning money to light his cigar if you care so much about a refund? Clearly you don't have "money to burn."

>>376273623
Listen faggot, if you want to play Dark Souls with a keyboard or not at all, then go right ahead.

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>>376273623
>get a gaming machine capable of any and all manner of input devices
>restrict yourself to only using mouse and keyboard

>>376273623
>not having many types of peripheral available so you can use the best control set up for every type of game

maybe you should go back to playing xbox kiddo

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>it's another KB+M only purist episode

>not using both at the same time for the best of them both
fucking plebeians
i played sleeping dogs with a controller in one hand for character movement and a mouse in the other for aiming

I can't even recall just how many game pads and flight sticks I've owned over the years for pc and this jackass doesn't even know his computer can do that.
#millennials

>>376273623
You know jack shit about pc gaming, retarded.

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>>376273623
>Playing on KB-M for anything that isn't an MMO.

>>376273623
>build PC to have options
>game has options
>immediately refund

Why do console niggers false flag so much? Do they think anyone honestly cares what they choose to play videogames on?

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>>376275325
>controls for FPS on PC

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>>376273623
Stop being a faggot and get a damn controller.
Bet you never had a Gravis Gamepad you triple nigger

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>>376276079
>you could screw in that knob thing to turn it into a joystick
>dat serial port

>ANALOG
>NALOG
>ALOG
>LOG
>OG
>G

Why do people treat mouse and keyboard like it's fucking perfect?

Give me a market friendly keyboard with analog WASD keys and then Ill call it perfect.

>start screen asks you to press a button to begin and slams USE A CONTROLLER USE A CONTROLLER in your face
Western indie devs are truly the most obnoxious little cunts on the Earth.

>>376276565
Keyboards weren't made for playing video games.

>>376273623
Some games are designed for a controller layout as opposed to kb+m, and vice versa.
I dare you to play Dark Souls 1, 2 or 3 with a kb+m. It's a fucking nightmare and everyone knows it's horrible.

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>>376273623

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fucking sucks I had to drop it, it was really good

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>want to slouch back and play a game on my pc with a controller
>remember the only thing i can use a controller with is emulators

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>>376273623

>play on PC
>outside of RTS games still prefer controller
>Steam gives me this

I'm perfectly alright with this situation and see no need to antagonize either side.

>>376277000
Starcraft is fun with a controller. It's like hard mode.

>>376276340
This, so much this.

>>376277000
... and multiplats?

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>>376273623
>depriving yourself of options

>>376273623
If they wanted to make a word processor why did they call it a game?

>>376277496
controller support is often removed from multiplats on pc

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>>376273623
I don't really get this. If you're a gamer you should be able to handle a controller. Learn motherfucker.

APPLY YOURSELF

>>376273623
Lazy ass developers that's why. They want money from PC gamers without putting any efforts into porting their games. Still I prefer to buy a controller if that mean I don't have to be cluttered with obsolete shit.

>>376277684
... what? Provide a single game where this is the case.

>>376273623
PCs are not meant to play video games

>>376279175
Your point?

>>376273623
A cheap controller costs like 20$ OP. Get out of fuck South America or get a real job maybe.

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>>376279175
but we do it aniways.

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>>376279175
Bill Gates disagree with you

>>376276948
>Can only play this game good on a Macbook laptop
>Can't play it on my PC because it feels so unnatural.

>>376273623
>racing game
>"we recommend you get a racing wheel"
>LOL NO WAY PC MASTER RACE INTO LE TRASH IT GOES

????

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I play PC games almost exclusively on the couch with a Steam controller. My gaming PC is plugged directly into my TV and boots directly into big picture mode. cum @ me

>>376281597
What kind of snake is that? I don't recognize the pattern.

>>376277684
???????????

>>376273623
Because KBM is objectively the worst control scheme for most games, silly peasant.

>>376273623
kys you falseflagging retard

>>376281597
>Steam controller
How the hell do you even tolerate that nonsense?
I borrowed one and not having a second analog for games like dark souls is hell.

>>376283514
The main purpose of a second analog stick is generally aiming, and a trackpad+gyro is far superior for that IMHO. The only things I really dislike about the Steam controller are the location of the face buttons and overall cheap build quality, but as far as features go it's my favorite controller for 3d games.

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>>376273623
>2010 minus 20
>Joystick required

>>376283514
>I borrowed one and not having a second analog for games like dark souls is hell.
you can set it to "trackball mode", which lets you make flicking gestures to spin the camera

>>376283817
gotta say my main issue with it is the software's lack of relaibility
you can try to change a binding so many times, but it's a crapshoot on whether or not it will commit to saving the binding when you exit that big picture bullshit

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Check out this consolized trash

>>376283331
Honestly, KBM is good enough for platformers and games that arent FPS that requiere moving + camera or pressing 2 or 3 buttons at the same time.

>>376273623
Sometimes the joystick is just better.

Sometimes.

>>376284065
I always use it in big picture so I don't have to deal with that as much. My main issue is that sometimes a game or Steam itself will glitch out and I'll have to use a mouse+keyboard to regain control. The Steam interface isn't as stable as any major console OS but the controller customization options are pretty amazing when you can actually get them to work. You can rebind controls on DS4s (including gyro) and XB1 controllers through big picture now as well but I haven't tried it yet.

Controller feels better for everything but FPS, especially in a game where you want to be able tp choose your walk/run speed more than just a toggle of two speeds

>>376282431
With zero snake knowledge even I can correctly assume that's an anaconda

I love this idea that PC fags are all rich when in another thread about videocards all of them are whining that they can't afford a 1080ti and instead are settling for 1060s like homeless cretins.

Master race indeed.

>>376273623
name 7 (seven) games

>>376276340
Logitech G13.

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>>376277000
>>376279032
Mass Effect. That is literally the only game I know of where that's the case, and even then you can mod it in, or use pic related.

>>376273623
Not like some games play better with a controller or anything. Not design, some game types just work better not using wasd. The only type of game kb+m has a distinct advantage over is the fps.

>>376279175
>PCs are not meant to play video games
>they still play games way better than consoles
Really makes you think.

>>376284065
You can edit bindings outside of big picture now, just right click on the game you want to edit.

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>>376285534

Who said PC fags are rich?

The whole point I bought a PC was to save money on buying video games and have a workstation at the same time.

>>376286158
Did you PCfags actually buy that piece of garbage because it had your favourite store's name on it?

>>376286589
I bought it because I wanted to try it, and it ended up being my favourite controller. It just takes some getting used to.

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>>376286589

I never saw the appeal for it.

This controller however is fantastic for emulators.

>>376274014
>>376274270
>>376274332
>>376274357
>>376274497
>>376274531
Please just stay on consoles and stop infecting my hobby with your inferior controls.

>>376286589
It's the only officially supported controller that has evolved beyond analog stick aiming.

>>376286589
I use a no-brand wallmart gamepad. based x360ce

>>376287018
And its still inferior to the mouse.

>>376286589
the steam controller is quite fucking good, and furthermore, it replaced my wireless keyboard/trackpad for controlling my computer when im casting it to my tv. its really good to use as a "mouse" and basic typing like using youtube netflix etc is ez

>>376273623
There have been controllers for windows since there have been games for it, you retarded fuckwad.

>>376273623
>implying the best part about a pc isn't that you can use whichever control you want

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I've owned this controller since before the OP was born and it still works.

>>376276948
I remember this shit
>shitty default controls that can't be changed, like how inbred must a dev be to assign walking to arrow keys?
>hey bro use a controller :^)
Good thing I pirated it

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Wouldn't games like dark souls be a lot easier to play on a controller though? personally, even with alterred key settings, I still find it hard to play on kb +m compared to a gamepad of somesort.

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So many people in this thread capitulating on lazy ports and using a controller...
I suddenly realize why they shit on mobas like Dota 2, they can't play them using a controller kek
Way to hold games back there fellas..makes me pretty sad

>>376274014

Most genres*

>>376287061
True, but I don't like playing from a desk as much as a couch, and for that it's the best option. And no, I can't be assed to have a complex wireless mouse+kb setup on my couch. Not as comfy.

>>376286852
>he drives/flies with kb+m

>>376287401
I hear this couch argument a lot, and I think I understand why now.
Most chairs have a weight limit.

>>376273623
mods

>>376287320
To be fair, Dark Souls was a console game.

>>376287451
I drive with a wheel and fly with a joystick, just please stay on console.

>Have a fuckton of DS3s because of my PS3
>Have two DS4s because of my PS4
>Have an official wired 360 controller

How can you not have a controller to use on your PC? Unless you strictly play on PC I guess but even then it's a worthy investment.

>>376287320
They barely ported that game, thats why.

>>376286852
>tfw 8 controllers connected to pc
>4 Xbox 4 PS

What's wrong with controller support anon? It's fun having a bunch of people over and playing local games. The only game that used all 8 controllers was gangbeasts. That game is fun as fuck when you play locally.

I kinda wished wrestling games had proper controller support on pc. You can have 6 players but it's mandatory for one person to use m+kb. Needless to say, we never played that game ever.

>>376287320

They are imo.

I've only used a controller for Souls games, as well as platformers and fighting games.

>>376287518

Wheels are also for consoles.

>>376287461
I used to spend a lot more time at my desk, but now that I work full time I want to get away from my desk as much as possible.

>this thread

fucking hell mustards are the worst

>>376287604
as are joysticks, Ace Combat uses them

>>376287262
My very first PC controller was one similar to this one. I still remember i used for first time on DKC2 web woods. I bet its still works but my PC doesnt have that joystick port

>>376273623

But why did you buy it in the first place? Some backwards attempt to send some retarded message?

>>376287461
Can't lounge on a chair.

>>376287320
I played a full DaS1 run and half DaS2 with both. Controller>KB+M

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>>376287461
>tfw sitting down too long makes my back ache.
>tfw it's one of the reasons I don't play much games anymore.

I'm only 150 pounds though. Been going to the doc to see what's up, might be some type of lordosis. I should've sat up straight all those years. Fml.

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>2017
>Not have a few controllers around for your PC

Since when were us PC fags so adverse to using controllers if the situation calls for one?

Isn't that the hole point of PC gaming? To enjoy a game using whatever control scheme you feel is the most comfortable or effective?

>>376287890
You're kinda right. Being on pc means you have the luxury of options when playing your games.

The whole point of PC is the choice you mong lool. That kind of thinking is consolecuck tier

>>376287843

You have weak muscles.

Look up some back stretches and some back exercises and do them when your back starts hurting. Always works for me.

>>376288048
>weak muscles
I guess it's time to get /fit/?
Thanks for the advice anon. I don't think I'll need any kind of surgery I hope.

Would've been nice to visit a chiropractor though.

>>376287843

this.
when im playing a ps2 emulator, i do not want to use kb+m. i want to use the controller like the console was originally intended to use

>>376288226
>chiropractor
You need to watch more Penn & Teller.

>>376288226

no prob.

also look up some ass exercises too. when your sitting, your glutes are taking the weight of your upper body, so if they're weak, it can start fucking up your back. It's important to stretch and strengthen those too.

>>376274014
tpbp

The true beauty of PC is having options. Mouse and keyboard is objectively superior for certain games, but it's great being able to connect basically any console controller to a PC and enjoying games that way too

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>>376287262
I was unfortunate enough to have this microsoft abomination.

>>376288610
Thanks
>>376288432
What, they're a scam?

>>376288793
What the fuck?! That looks like autism and AIDS. I can't even tell what you're supposed to do with it.

>>376287890
I'm only guessing here, but I think a lot of people on 4chan will take any position on the sole criterion that it pisses off whatever group they dislike.

you should play the game the way the devs had in mind

>>376287262
its in my garage somewhere im sure
the d pad is surprisingly nice

>>376273623
>fucking retard who absolutely want to play video games with his mouse

>>376286852
>playing JRPGs with a mouse and keyboard
KYS.

>>376273623
>being mad about having the option to use kbm or controller

you should sell your PC because you clearly don't appreciate it.

>>376287262
Shouldn't it be a XBOX360 controller? I mean OP can't be any older than 12.

>not spending $30 on a 360 pad
OP is too poor to be gaming

>>376286852
You're an idiot.

The advantage of PC is that it isn't limited in the same way consoles are. And you're saying developers should limit themselves.

Fuck off.

>>376286589
Truthfully I bought it cause it seemed like the type of thing that might work. I found out, it really didn't but when it comes to new input things, it's hard to know for sure until you try it out yourself. I mainly use my Wii U Pro controller when I need a PC controller these days using a Mayflash adaptor.

>>376288030
>That kind of thinking is consolecuck tier
It's not. There's people who appreciate PC gaming, and there's the "lulz, PC master race, amirite? no, my wallet, Steam!" type people. They're the idiots that decided that the dumbass console wars that's been happening forever needed to include pc gaming as well.

>>376290240
Dunno, JRPGs tend to be simple enough to work with mouse and keyboard.

>>376286852
the only games that k&m are good for are point-and-clicks and fps

>>376290574
Tales of Symphonia I doubt it'd work with a mouse. Zestiria and Berseria sure, since they got it like that.

>>376287320
that has mostly to do with the fact that fromsoft are lazy kikes. Dragons dogma has perfect kb+m controls

>>376273623
One of the benefits of being a PC player is the ability to use a controller should you so choose.

>>376273623
It's called a port, faggot. Not our fault you're too fucking poor to afford a controller.

Why don't we have devices that combine mouse aiming input with analog movement input?

>>376273623
Nigga there are some genres that are just better with a controller. If your one of those I HAVE TO USE A KEYBOARD FOR EVERYTHING autists you should fuck off. Your no better than console players because you are completely ignoring one of the best aspects of PC gaming and thats the freedom to choose your own control scheme instead of being locked into a single controller (or two in Nintendos case).

>>376292978
In theory that's what the steam controller was supposed to do. It failed at it by not being very good at anything overall.

>>376273623
epic

>>376292978
Would be kinda difficult when you really think about it. Mouse and Keyboard controls work because of your hand positioning. You don't hold a keyboard like a controller where you can only use your thumbs besides the 4 shoulder buttons. You have 16+ keys easily reachable with your left hand because you can use all your fingers.

Analog controls would be awkward as hell with your hand positioned like a keyboard.

Hey guys I'm playing Wolfenstein 3D for the first time, why are the controls so fucked? I don't think I'll be able to beat it on Death Incarnate the first time around with these controls and a lives system, fuck me.

>>376273623
>not ignoring this and playing on a keyboard no matter what
Weak faggot.

>>376274014
>Some genres are better with a controller.

there might be a slight edge with platformers but that's literally the only one. Used to think controllers helped in stealth games but MGSV was way smoother with KBM

>>376293704
>but MGSV was way smoother with KBM
Mouse aiming is the main reason I played MGSV with KBM. Any game that requires aiming to any degree I will never use a controller. Valkyria Chronicles being really the only exception because of how that game plays.

>>376287587
>You can have 6 players but it's mandatory for one person to use m+kb. Needless to say, we never played that game ever.

>not just using joy2key

>>376293505
That's how games were 20+ years ago. Look into the source port new wolf. That should make it more modern

>>376294185
I was a SNES kiddie who only knew muh platformers, muh racing games. Only in my teenage years was I exposed to FPS games and it was shit condemned by /v/ like early Halo and CoD.

>>376294003
>implying we wanted to waste time configuring that shit.

Wasn't worth it. Game ran like shit too. It's been like this for all the wrestling games on pc. They don't care about it, that's why it come out like 6 months after the console versions.

>>376288793
>Okay bro, here's your controller

>>376273623
absolute the correct thing to do, I do the exact same thing

console users want to use fingerboard and moose for FPS shooter game (overwatch)
>It's illegal

>>376294772
>>376273623
doing gods work

>>376290115
i played so many emultaed neo geo games on that dpad

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>>376293446
But stuff like this exists, it just has never caught on

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>>376273623

using a controller in an online fps involving teams and a competitive atmosphere should be bannable on pc.
like, the game detects a controller, and as the faggot behind it tries to enter the comp mode he should be banned for at least a week.

>>376293704
spectacle action games

>>376295363
gta v got that right, just no ban

People who only use m&kb are the exact same cancer that plays Fps on console and pretends a controller magically makes Fps games more skill based and better.
Both like the same trash genre of console wank games too. Never see them playing racing games or combat flight sim.

>>376273623
I don't care how optimized keyboard/mouse controls are for a 3rd person action game, a controller will always work better for me.
Same can be said for if an FPS is incredibly optimized for a controller, I would want keyboard/mouse regardless.

>>376276565
>mustard: i reccomend you use a PC. Listen to my valid suggestion. Im in the know
>dev: we made the game. We suggest you use this input for best effect. We should know.
>mustard:reeeeeeeeeeeee day 1 pirate!

Look at this faggot

>>376273623
OP, having a PC isn't about choosing a side, you're fucking doing it wrong you elitist piece of dog shit.

On PC i have emulators, modern PC platforms, and every modern game these days has PS4 and Xbox One functionality built in JUST for the PC version.

PC is being an idort.

>kb+m is the best control scheme for every game

You just know OP is a 13 year old shitter who just got his mom to sink $4k on an Alienware laptop

>>376294865
You and OP deserve to be in the current state of PC gaming to be fair. All compute units and no games.

>>376293704
Games like DMC and MGR??

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>>376273623
>playing video games on a literal typewriter
>2017
>anything with 3rd person 3D movement on four keys
>2017

Also
>spend +$1000 building your PC
>love to go part hunting for the right parts
>get mad when you're supposed to buy an actual video game device

>>376296518
the current state?
i hate to break it to you but PC gaming has been shit for close to a decade, unless you into MMOs.

Mouse is always superior, without question. Sometimes mouse + keyboard is preferable, sometimes mouse + analog stick is. But dual analog stick - or in other words, the gamepad - is for mentally disadvantaged people.

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>>376296647
this
>he doesn't have a controller for emulation in the first place

I play any third person game that does not require precise aiming with a controller

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>>376273623
>"Use of a controller is highly recommended"
>kb&m still works best
>memers still keep spewing the "dude use a controller meme"

Every fucking time, I wish I got a dollar every time this happens.

>>376273623
the only genres I wouldn't use a controller for are rts and fps.
controller is superior in all other genres

>>376296569
>>376295418
I'm gonna go beat mgr with a keyboard now just to prove you fuckers wrong dammit

>>376296661
FF14 is actually surprisingly decent with a controller

KB is still best though

>>376296694
Incorrect. I see now why 4K and shit is so important to you fuckers, i never "totally" used to get it, but it's clearly because you all sit inches from your monitor screen you NEED the resolutions to keep getting higher and higher because you can't sit far enough away. Kek. "Choice" everyone. But they obly "choose" to make themselves uncomfortable.

>>376273623
Because a Mouse and Keyboard is apparently perfect in every way and should always be used for everything ever.

No wonder the PCMR meme came to be, only complete morons would be that stubborn.

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>>376296939
So? Theres a guy out there who could finish it with a harmonica im sure, doesn't mean you are the rule. If anything we should be taking away from this thread that if you don't use what is comfortable to you you are being a collosal try hard and video games are lost on you anyway. OP is literally acting like a baby because he just bought his first PC and a couple of devs suggested something that might (gasp) associate him with "console stuff" what a faggot i say.

>>376297102

Whatever it is you tried to do here is poorly constructed. Nobody even knows what you're trying to say, but you're wrong whatever it is.

>>376297275
Nice argument four eyes. Stop sitting so close to the screen for once and you might be able to read it properly.

>controller like every other peripheral started on PC
>now it's a console thing

what

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>Controller is recommended way to play
>Keyboard+Mouse is so much superior it nearly breaks the game on competitive level
What did they mean by this?

>>376297353
PC is becoming less and less relevant to the wider market even in its own domain what can i say.

>>376273623
>3rd worlder too poor to afford a controller on top of a keyboard and mouse

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Console babbies fail to understand that the only reason gamepads still exist is because normies took over the video game market. If the average gamer IQ didn't take this tip, consoles would be long dead by now. Their only legacy would be devices like picture related which in conjunction with the mouse are objectively superior for every video game where the gamepad is usually recommended.

Please note that you cannot refute my claims if you are born in the '90s or god forbid later. This is the cutoff point for when they really went overboard with the chemicals in the water.

I played DMC3, DMC4 and Dark Souls with a KB+M.

>>376293704
Racing games are better, action games are better, fucking anything except FPS and obviously sim games like Civ and mount and blade or some shit

>have a controller
>plug it into computer
>works instantly
>map the buttons using steam

what is there to even complain about anymore

everything is standardized

Its "Recommendation" not a "Must", faggot

>>376297515
Here's a (You)
Don't spend it all in one place

Every time that notice showed up I've ended up being lied to.

>he thinks keyboard and mouse is best control scheme
>this is the newfag pc cuck

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>>376273954
This

>>376293704
twin stick shooters

>>376276565
I actually appreciate this prompt because that's likely how the game was intended to be played so it removes some guesswork

>>376274497

I've got a nice kb/m set, a cheap fight stick, a ds4, and a Logitech g27 wheel. I could probably drop the fight stick since i dont okay fighters all that often, but it's nice to have options.

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>>376293704
>MGSV

I hear it's dissapointing as stealth game, can you play it like a run&gun TPS?
I did that with ground zeroes and it was really enjoyable.

>>376297881
joystick and mouse with xpadder is the true king for FPS

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>>376273623
more like
>cant use controller
>immediately refund

>>376298029
some games are good with keyboard, some fucking suck
stop being insecure

>>376276862
Who is this semen demon?

>>376296518
>he actually enjoys platformers and poorly ported action rpgs, i.e. the kinda shit that needs controllers
lmao, just stick to consoles

>>376297881
it objectively is in 95% of all cases

>>376298063
Nobleman retort.
Thank me later.

>>376298176
Thanks

>>376298053
wasd is objectively inferior for movement; a joypad gives you access to enough hotkeys (usually anyway) with a proper range of movement sensitivity

>>376297515
>blah, blah, blah, blah consoles have taken over the market and less people give a fuck about typewriting to play games on a high barrier to entry gaming device that only elitists with poor dev support and shitty ports

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>>376298094
But i do. It's where all the support is you see.

>>376298134
>% figures straight out my ass

What a faggot OP is