Smt thread If you want to talk about persona 5 go to the hundreds

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>tfw I never play past half way in any of the games
They're just way too long and you get lost far too easily.

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>>376255841
Use a FAQ

Tfw want to like nocturne but theres varely any story

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>>376255943
>barely any

Once people start getting Reasons the story rolls along well

>>376255624
Haven't played this game but I really like this art.

>>376255624
>game
Persona 4
>demon
Nyarlathotep
>alignment
Law
>character
Gale

>>376255907
But then where's the fun in doing stuff yourself?

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This is Kawakami from the SMT game Persona 5.

>>376256036
How far in is that

>>376256357
>the fun in doing stuff yourself?
since you aren't finishing them you obvious don't believe that yourself
or don't wait a few months between each game session and you shouldn't be so lost

>>376257161
After Obelisk the story basically takes all the foreshadowing from the beginning and pick up pretty fast

>>376255624
>game
Nocturne
>demon
Harlot
>alignment
Chaos
>character
N/A
>rep
Lucifer

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>>376255624
Favourite
> game
SJ or Nocturne.
> demon
Alice.
> alignment
Polytheism Alliance if I could actually join them.
> character
Maitreya.
> representative
None, they are all terrible.

>>376256357
You should not feel bad about using a FAQ for SMT4. Some parts of that game are basically fucking impossible to know what to do/where to go without a guide, it sometimes tells you literally nothing and just throws you to the wolves on the massive, awful world map

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>>376260864
>that grinding for macca for the membership cards

>>376260864
That's the only SMT game I played. I stopped after I beat the big red guy with deer antlers or something because I got lost.

>>376260641
Why can I actually imagine this happening in SJ?

>>376261138
A little after that it gets better and much easier to get around but the middle is fucking awful with it. It'll literally say for your objective something like "Kill the demon in ikebukuro" but you have no idea where ikebukuro is or where the demon is and even if you find him it doesn't make it clear that he's the right guy

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>>376255624
> game
Probably Strange Journeyor P5
> demon
Metatron, Daisoujo's a close second
> alignment
Neutral
> character
I don't know
> representative
Gore

I am extremely skeptical about DSJ. Also, does anyone think SMT HD might be a Devil Summoner game? The cherry blossoms reminded me of Raidou.

>>376260148
MADZUGO DELUGZ :DDDDDDD

>>376255624
> game
Avatar Tuner 2
> demon
Black Frost
> alignment
Neutral
> character
Pascal
> representative
Gore

>Have the best song in the game
>Only have it during a part where you're playing the most broken character in SMT history, so the song doesn't even play that long

Goddamnit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vyBQIxq1I&t=53s

>>376255624
Picked up SJ again, just got to sector F and I forgot how imposing these dungeons are, love it.

Nocturne
Mother Harlot
Chaos
Demi-Fiend
Gale

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>>376262649
>Avatar Tuner 2
Why? I'm not too fond of either of them, but 2 was really lacking to me.

>>376262891
The atmosphere in all the dungeons is so great, it's a shame that it fell apart a little at the end for me because my frustration with the teleporter mazes took me out of it a bit.

>>376263204
Eridanus is what made me drop the game originally, well specifically collecting stuff for captain jack and the teleporters, I love the atmosphere and story though so I want to finish it before I continue with SMTIV, which has it's own issues but it reminds me a lot of Nocturne so I'm enjoying it

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I want to give SMTIV another try, but that god awful world map filtered me out. I'm more interested in playing Nocturne at this point, though I don't have a real means to play it without it being a pain in the ass.

>game
Persona 5, I won't say anything else about it though, I promise.
>demon
Thor
>alignment
Neutral>Law>Chaos
>character
Yuriko
>representative
Does Thorman count? Thorman.

>>376265092
SMTIV really started picking up for me at Ikebukuro, unfortunately, it plummeted at the end, though that was for the Neutral route.

>>376265092
If you were interested in the story definitely give it another shot. I've heard emulating Nocturne is shitty, luckily my launch PS3 is still holding up

>>376265092
The world map is a lot less shitty once you figure out where to go.

>>376260864
Ok go fight this demon who's hanging in this shrine located in this general direction from some japanese district you may or may not have been to yet.

Ha ha yeah bro I know that place. Gotcha.

>>376265595
Yeah, from what I've read, it's only really confusing to foreigners because it's literally a map of Tokyo.

Japanese players and people familiar with the city didn't have the same problem with the navigation I heard.

I heard pulling out an actual map of Tokyo is a good way to learn it.

When will Jack Frost be in Smash Bros?

is that doctor doom and doctor fate fighting?

Can anyone tell me how far I am in Apocalypse? or I guess how much more I have to go. I just tried to rescue flynn and got destroyed by odin and had to retreat.

I'm playing through Strange Journey right now, Persona 5 was my introduction to SMT as a whole, sorry guys, and I'm loving it so far. I'm excited to play though other games in the series, but I want to go through one game at a time.

Why does everyone hate Mastema? He seems like a totally rad dude. He opened a hole in the floor and everything for me.

>>376265949
I'd rather have a Devil Summoner like Raidou, or Kenichi, and have them play like a puppet chcaracter.

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>>376266238
DONT TRUST HIM

>>376266238
i dont think SMT fans are as elitist as /v/ likes to pretend they are, at any rate Persona 3 was my introduction to the series and I love almost all the games now. Mastema has that shit-eating grin that makes you want to hit him in the face

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>>376265806
That doesn't really help because to get from section to section you have to go through subways/rivers and shit that are not marked at all and look identical to every other nothing little location on the map, plus that doesn't help the objective problem. I remember one time it literally did not tell me anything, the quest I was previously doing simply ended and the game just left me totally in the dark except for Lilith saying something like "go find Walter" with not a single general hint of where the fuck he was.

>>376265657
I swear to god I fucking hate SMT games for this. Nocturne wasn't that bad, it had a few confusing moments, namely around Ginza. Goddamn SMT 4 takes it to a whole new level.

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>>376266606
>wanting to punch this trustworthy angel

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>game
Strange Journey
>demon
Minotaur
>alignment
Neutral
>character
Heat
>representative
Jimenez

>>376266606
SMT gets overshadowed a lot by Persona on this board, so SMT fans tend to give a lot of flak for people who play persona but haven't even at least tried mainline or other spin offs.

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>>376266238
>He seems like a totally rad dude. He opened a hole in the floor and everything for me.
That's right, son of man, trust in the Lord and His holy messengers and do not stray on to the path of debauchery and sin.

>>376266806
Dumb Persona baby finds an opening

>>376255624
> game
Nocturne
> demon
Hell Biker
> alignment
Neutral
> character
Raidou XIV
> representative
Yuko

>>376255624
>game
MT II
>demon
Demonee-ho
>alignment
Chaos
>character
Gigolo
>rep
Naoya

>>376255624
GOATSTEMA

>>376267453
>MT II
any tips on stat distribution my guy? I always get turbo 'tismo over it in these older games

>>376255624
>> game
SMT1
>> demon
Cerberos
>> alignment
Neutral
>> character
Raidou Kuzunoha
>> representative
Walter

How do Persona 1 and 2 hold up these days?

Are so many of you truly corrupted by chaos? Are the rest so weak-willed that you would align yourself to neutrality? Where are my steadfast guardians of the almighty law?

>>376266242
I can see Flynn being in and being able to switch out with random demons.

>>376268090
>Are the rest so weak-willed that you would align yourself to neutrality?
Do you really like being penetrated in the ass by lucifer's big cock?
Or do you prefer to have YHVH ejaculating all over your mouth?

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I'm looking to try playing SMT 1 and 2.

I have a few questions though.

-How do they hold up compared to the newer games? Are they easier, or harder?
-Have they aged well?
-Are there any worthless stats like Strength in SMT4?
-How is teaching the MC skills handled? I've only played SMT4 and an extremely small amount of time with Soul Hackers, so I'm not sure if it is handled the same way.
-What are the best versions of them to emulate?
-And does the neutral route require a guide to get through like SMT4?

>>376268316
They're pretty hard, though not much more than the other mainline games, and they've aged alright-ish. You're either going to want to make your own map Wizardry-style or get one of them fancy automappers.
Guns are godly, by the way. Remember that.

Persona 5

>>376267978
I played Persona 1 on PSP a few years ago, but only briefly.

It's rough, the grid system sucks ass and the encounter rate is high. and the menus are convoluted.

Everything else seemed alright though. I've heard P2 still holds up pretty well though in comparison, although I haven't played it.

>>376255624
>game
DeSu 1
>demon
Pixie gets me hot and bothered.
>character
Naoya
>representative
NAOYA

Purse Owner Cinco

>>376268494
Thank you, anon.

>>376255624
>Game
Digital Devil
>Demon
Eligoor
>Alignment
Chaos
>Character
Serph
>Rep
Izuna

>>376268316
Is strength that bad in SMTIV? I may have fucked up in that case

>>376269032
It mostly affects your basic attack, DEX is actually better for phys skills. A good build is 3 dex/1 agi/1 luck every level.

>>376266671
I remember that part, and i also got lost semi frequently. I think talking to NPCs helps some, but maybe not in the situation you're referring to

>>376268316
I only played SMT 1 up to a certain point before my save got corrupted, but the game seemed extremely imbalanced to me in a way that made it extremely easy. Zio shocked enemies on almost every turn so I pretty much had infinite turns. The most difficult part about is navigating dungeons because every part of them looks the same and the mapping is bad so it's hard to tell where you're going.

>>376267978
I had fun with persona 1 on the psp, but there's no visual novel elements or anything like that in it like 3-5.
Each character can have 3 different personas, so i thought having 5 different characters with 3 different personas got a tad confusing, but it's not that bad

im playing through Nocturne after giving up before even reaching Matador my first time.

I'm really enjoying it, but should I be grinding more? seems like all my demons die every boss fight (Daisoujo and Thor) and I barely pull through. I'm in the place after Mantra HQ right now

>>376255624

>Soul Hackers
>Kikimora
>Neutral
>Atsuro
>Gore

>>376270130
There's really no need to grind so long as you're not running from encounters, especially not if you're going to the Kalpas, which you should be.

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>>376255624

before P5 came out, SMT threads were pretty rare, like i'd maybe see one once a week. now there's basically always one up. what gives? do all of the persona threads trigger smtfags so you have to make sure and say "UH HEY THAT GAME YOUR ENJOYING IS A SPIN OFF OF THIS OTHER SERIES THAT I PREFER!"

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>>376258127
>don't wait a few months between each game session and you shouldn't be so lost

i've been playing SMTIV over the course of like three years now. last time i played it was like a week ago, so the run is still alive

>>376265092
>ambassador thorman is actually thor

Never saw that coming. For real.

>>376270341
>especially not if you're going to the Kalpas, which you should be.

oops, I ran out the second I had the option to try those, next time I play i'll jump into them

>>376266238
He's a trustworthy guy.

>>376270616
Some of the best moments in the game happen in there, so you should try and make sure you get through all of them.

>>376270471
wow same
i've been playing it for like a year or so now
i'm so close to being done

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>>376270367
They literally can't compete

>>376270367
yes, this is precisely what is happening.

>>376255624
>Soul Hackers
>Nemissa
>Law
>Flynn
>Walter

>>376270367
>smt fans are mad that all of Atlus's resources are going to a spinoff instead of the original game
Gee, I wonder why they're mad.

>>376270701
I read that my favorite demon is in one, but this is my first actual SMT

>>376270718

level-wise i'm like 27 so i think i still have a ways to go

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>>376270471
>SMTIV
that one was confusing to be fair, they fixed the map for iv:a atleast
you should get a map online or something so you know where all the places are

>>376270886
>smt fans are mad that a company directs it effort towards what makes money

you're getting your strange journey sequel, SMT:A came out like last year, and SMT IV not that long before it. the last legit persona game came out in 2008. quit acting like you're "oppressed", faggot, any time Atlus takes a breath from sucking mainline smt fan cock you guys freak out

>>376271359

i was trying to tough it out without a guide, but i just broke down some fire wall near ikeburo and have no idea where to go. i figured i'd just be able to walk past where the fire wall was on the map, but from what i can tell there's nowhere to go. i went walking around everywhere else on the map and couldn't find anything. time to crack and look shit up i guess

>>376271558
this

>>376271286
oh yeah you're still a ways off
i'm level 80 and i've been having fun but this one fucking boss is really carving my pumpkins

>>376263204
>Avatar 2ner
The story (lots of areas with NPCs), atmosphere and music really gripped me. I think it was pretty easy also, which I liked.

>>376271856
don't burroughs keep close objectives or is just like, kill bigdude at the fuckall building

> game
Nocturne
> demon
Mothman
> alignment
Neutral
> character
Demi-fiend had a hard life
> representative
Pascal

Just sad that it's annoying as fuck to get back into Nocturne. Between how annoying dealing with randomization of skills and losing abilities just feels off.

>>376255624
>Game
Raidou 2
>Demon
Vouivre
>Alignment
Chaos
>Character
Spooky
>Rep
Naoya

SMT's whole blending between the occult and technology is the coolest shit, and it's got awesome artwork/designs and music, really epitomizes where games can excel over other mediums

>>376273808
SMT ironically got me reading about different religions. Particularly Gnosticism and Judeo Christianity.

I find it actually really interesting and seeing their depictions and designs in the games really fascinate me.

>>376270367
Partially that, and partially because a lot of SMTfags, as much as they dislike to admit it, play Persona, and it reminded them of the series they love so much, hence the influx of SMT threads. I have only ever played Persona Q but I see many people referencing both when talking about either.

>>376275724
P3 and P4 got me into the series, they're alright games

P5 was so slow, I can't like it, seriously 50 hrs in and I'm still only lvl 45? Why is it so slow, why is there so much pointless story.

>>376270367
it's also because atlus in general is becoming more popular as a whole

like, there was an actual etrian odyssey thread up yesterday, which never happens. people who played p5 have begun to branch out into atlus's other series and games

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>>376255624

> game
SMT3
> demon
Jack Frost
> alignment
neutral/chaos
> character
Narumi
> representative
Yamato

>>376276247
P5's better at pacing than P3

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>>376255624
Assuming MegaTen so I can say any MegaTen game aside from P5
>Game
DeSu2 RB
>Demon
Sraosha
>Alignment
Chaos I guess
>character
Fumi
>Rep
Yamato

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>>376255624
> game
Strange Journey
> demon
Matador
> alignment
Neutral
> character
Either Raidou or Demi Fiend
> representative
Gore

>>376270603
Me neither i felt stupid as fuck, glad to see that im not the only one

>>376277789
>Better pacing that P3
P5 has scenes where you just walk to your bed, at least P3 pulled that shit where "you're just tired, sleep the week off"

The pacing in P5 is a MESS

>>376255624
Persona 5
You mean personas right?
Lol what?
Makoto Niijima
You mean like a politician?

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>>376265519
>I've heard emulating Nocturne is shitty
Just recently started playing Nocturne for the first time, just made it to the Mantra HQ and I haven't had any problems with it yet, and it looks really good after fixing a few video settings.

>>376283379
oh shit, it looks alot less blurry then I remember it.

>>376285142
>dante doesn't take fall damage if you jump off
Based

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>>376285142
At least getting down is quick.

>>376265519
Played through all of nocturne on emulator and it was fine.