Why was P5 such a hit with normies? What did it do that P3 and

>>376206009
luck, it wont happen again don´t worry

P3 and P4 were popular games too retard

>>376206009
If nothing else, its style alone probably got it a lot of sales. Definitely one of the most stylish games of all time.

Enough popular Youtubers and Twitch streamers covered it. Persona 3 and 4 didn't get that and got low key famous through word of mouth.

>>376206009
P4 came out in 2008 on the ps2 and the re-release came out on the fucking vita.

Despite that, both P3 and P4 continually grew their fanbase.

P5 is the first one that's actually out on a non-obsolete console so it got all the sales from fans who were already fans as well as new fans who saw all the good press + it being on a console they have.

>>376206009
It released on a console during its peak. P4 came out in 2008 on PS2, 2 years after the PS3 had already been out, aka a time when no one gave a shit about PS2 anymore. P5 came out during a peak 12 months for Japanese console releases on PS4.

Good aesthetics.

It's popular to be an "ironic weeb" now.

Just wait for them to move onto something else.

>>376206438
The "ironic weebs" are into shit like Neptunia though.

>>376206009
Because PS4 has like 4 games worth owning, so it didn't go under under a whole ton of other titles.

Both PS2 games came out when it already had a big library, with lots of diverse game genres, so P3 and 4 simply went under.

P3 was a belated sequel to a series which was barely known in the West.

Good reviews and sales funded P4, but that still came out almost a year into the PS3 generation, so most casuals had already moved on, maybe having heard about it from their weird friend who likes "Japanimation" and shit.

So P5 is the first time the series is even coming out in a position where the normies will notice it. Add in the esteemed reputation of the past 2 games and good word of mouth and it wound up reaching a much broader audience than P3 or P4 ever could have hoped for.

>>376206438
>'I'm such a weeb!' is the new 'I'm such a nerd!'

Oh god I didn't ask for this

>>376206749
>I'm such a weeb xdd rem best gril xD

>>376206193
Only good post in this thread.

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>>376206438
>>376206749
>>376206843
Shit, it's actually true.

>>376206009
P3 and P4 already gained a following from normies, it's only natural that the latest game would be a hit. Also word of mouth.

>>376206009
>released while the console is still being supported
>a lot of goodwill built up from previous games
>visuals look amazing and the theme of the game is not too cheerful or emo
>story resonates more with current normalfags and ironic weebs

It honestly was guaranteed to be hit even with the development hell, the only thing that could've stopped it was would've been a worse localization than the one we got.

Pseudopunk style that goes all over the screen (that is good game design btw :^)), a "fuck the system" story that says not much at all, good romances and actually designed dungeons. Also, a fuckton of advertising coming from P4fags and elusive trailers.

>>376206009
As someone who's neither a weeb nor a normie and enjoys JP stuff on occasion: the visuals of 3 and 4 are fucking embarrassing, 5 is fine.

It's also on PS3 which everyone and their dog has at this point.
Though P4 and P3 were also decently big with normies. I remember a lot of them being like
>Yeah dude I play JRPGs, P4G is one of my favourites of ALL TIME XD

PS4 has no games while the PS2 had plenty of games.

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This game rips off the Phantom Thief Under The Moonlight Kaito kid. Why don't gosho ayoama sue for this?

Ah yes, i remember, because this fat fuck prefers to continue writing his fucking Detective conan investigation and not advancing the story AT ALL because fuck, it's not repetitive at all for sure right?? and forget KAITO KID completely when he's better than Detective Conan in any ways or forms!

> yfw he's making a new arc of 3 chapters right now and the first two has been released

>>376206009
His design is actually good.

>>376206009
The internet.

That's it. It came out post 2009 so normies were introduced to it here because /v/ is a normie board.

>>376206009
Persona since 3 is played only by normies.

>>376206151

The amount of time they must have put into that shit is nuts. Everything from screen transitions to loading screens to the menu layout, it's insane.

Great stuff though.

>>376206749
What do you think will take the place of weeb in the future? What else is there for the normies to take?

>>376207642
Bullshit, P5 rips off Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne.

>>376207036
>and actually designed dungeons

I agree, but holy shit they're so long. You're looking at spending 1-2 hours at least to beat any dungeon, it's crazy.

Maybe my memory's wrong, but I definitely don't remember the dungeons in 4 taking that long.

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>>376207836
i disagree. So many thing look similar to Kaito kid in this game when it's about the Phantom thieve. The whole name is from kaito kid for sure.
Even the logo look like his'

>>376206009
Normies love Harry Potter and just won't STFU about Harry Potter.

P5 has a Harry Potter lookalike.

>>376207836
P5 rips off from a lot of things.

>>376207902
You're a retard. Kaito doesn't prompt change of hearts through his antics. Kaito doesn't deal with devils and demons. KKJ is a lot closer to P5 than KK.

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>>376208002
Kaito kid has dealt with The devil and Witch Akako, yes he did. Let say that it was just "inspired".

>>376207782
I predict classic literature is next up

>>376208442
I'm such a booker?

I think people just have enough of the repetitive and short AAA western games. P5 came just in the right time when Jap games were getting back some attention with games like nioh or nier.

>>376206749
>watch a few vids about P5 fusions
>recommended vids full of utter cancer
>LEL WAIFU WARS
>BEST WAIFU
>NEVER SEE IT COMMIING XD
I should give up video games for good and start building chairs or something.

>>376207859
Better than taking about an hour per floor in Persona Q

>>376208485
This is the correct answer.

The normies are finally starting to wise up to the trickery of most AAA companies. This, I'm guessing, is due in large part to e-celebs and streamers harkening back to a day when gaming was a lot better.

If this keeps up, we'll see a second golden age of gaming very soon.

>>376208654
Not to mention video essay 'explaining' everything that you fucking idiots missed!

>>376209615
I blame dark souls lorefags like Vaati for this cancer.

Ironic weebs

>PS4 exclusive in this barren wasteland that is the 8th gen
>Persona 4 Golden already set up a big fanbase
>Anime has recently become a normalfag magnet
>FFXV turned the Skyrim audience onto JRPG's only months prior
>half a decade of marketing
>got 9's and 10's across the board
>the internet in 2017 compared to 2007
>came out on a current gen console unlike P4

>>376210150
>PS4 exclusive
lol

>>376206009
Marketing and being on the most popular console. Notice how Halo went from the biggest thing ever to having two sequels immediately forgotten after release.

Also, more people are watching streamers and LP now.

>>376206481
Neptunia isn't even that popular and all the "ironic weebs" just follow the latest popular trends. The only thing i ever see for your argument is that one pic with the faggot in the nep hat.

>>376206009

Awesome aesthetics especially with the UI that no other Western game companies would even dare

Can you even imagine someone like Rockstar do something similar?

It was actually a good game, unlike 3 and 4.

Dunno if I'm a normie, but the reason I care about P5 when I didn't care about P3 or P4 is that it has actual dungeons instead of random bullshit. As someone said the "style" really helps too, the cool slick phantom thieves and the red themes are much cooler than the emo kid shooting himself in the head.

>>376211474
you're a normie

>>376211516
And I don't even care. P3 was cringy and edgy even back then.

>>376206009
Nothing, the normie interest just built up over years of general Persona 4 hype.

P4 took years to sell a million copies, it eventually got a lot of people/ youtube e-celebs talking and posting characters, yet most people didn't have a PS2 or Vita to play it on. PS4 has a larger install base

>>376211604
Damn right it was but I still loved it. Nothing wrong with edge.

>>376211516
>having good taste means being a normie

>>376210681
to the normies it is considering they had 360s

I wonder when all of you will realize Persona is SMT for normies and fags.

Hoshino's gone, so don't expect another one.

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>>376206009
Being a weeb is mainstream now. Why weebs in denial?

>>376211726
t.normie trying to fit in

>>376206009
> sony twitter marketing
> releasing it on PS4
that's all you need

>>376211860
It just hurts watching the cycle of normies taking over occur again and again.

>>376211769
wtf i love smt now

>>376211769
Who are you talking to? Everyone here already knows this. They just don't care.

Well it was either buy Persona or buy Prey and no one is going to buy Prey

>>376211945
Where have you been?

Anime has been pretty mainstream for at least 5 years now.

>>376212035
In denial.

>>376207782
I really thought about this, but at this point they have really fucked up everything I care about non-academically. It's quite depressing.

>>376211927
Sick non-argument, my man. Don't worry, this will be the last (You) I give you, be sure to spend it wisely.

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Normies love guys like Yusuke

@376212092
thanks normie

>>376212035
>5 years
It's been mainstream in the west since the early-mid 2000's but the "culture" it created has been becoming more mainstream in recent years yes.

>>376212119
wtf I love normies now

>>376212035
>>376212328
Nigga learn what mainstream is.

If your weebshit isn't publicly advertised in the west such as TV spots, billboards, subway station posters and bus posters don't go round saying that shit is mainstream

I've never played a persona game
I don't care about dating simulator because I don't have autism but should I play P5

>>376213009
Probably not. A big chunk of the fun of persona games are the confidants.

>>376212594
t. cancerous weeb hipster who found 4chan in 2010s

Toonami was broadcasting anime since the 90's and Disney had the english distribution rights for plenty of AAA anime films from atleast the 90's onward.

>>376213009

No.

>>376213009
Contrary to what waifu wars might lead you to believe, the romance and dating is a very small part of the game. About half of your time is spent talking to people and building relationships, but that's more of a time management ordeal than a full-on dating sim. If actual dating/romance is what turns you off, go for it, it's easily ignored. If by dating sim you just mean the entire non-combat aspect then no, it's not for you.

>>376213009
have fun having shit personae during fusions, cuck

>>376213819
I think you mean
>have fun doing nothing but grinding mementos over and over while ignoring the social links

>>376213223
Okay but how does that change anything? If a game is made in these modern times and is not publicly advertised it ain't mainstream cuck

>>376214432
>what is social media and word of mouth?

P5 is ranked high on the PS4 sales charts.

For a game with an anime-esque aesthetic that isn't Final Fantasy, that's an accomplishment.

>>376207859

>Personafag encounters dungeon crawling

How is P5 considered normieshit now? Most of the time when I bring up Persona to other people they never know what it is. And I'm talking about people who actively game or watch anime.

>>376214736
>what is social media and word of mouth?

Shit that niche games rely on to sell. Games that are publicly advertised also use social media too so yeah keep pretending some minor shit like that makes a modern game mainstream. Zero escape relied on word of mouth and social media just to get a 3rd game out but that shit ain't mainstream.

Keep damage controlling but unless it's in the public eyes then you ain't mainstream

>>376214736
>P5 is ranked high on the PS4 sales charts.

Nigga there's only shipped numbers out.

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>>376206009
>What did it do that P3 and to a lesser extent P4 couldn't?
BETTER WAIFUS

>>376206009

Word of mouth was intense this time. Normies don't respond to the quality of a game, they respond to people around them saying the game it good.

It's basically the same effect as Dark Souls.

Normies will play anything new that is hyped.

>>376206009
It wasn't. My normie coworkers, who are self-declared "video game enthusiasts", hadn't ever heard about Persona before I mentioned it.

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>Why was P5 such a hit with normies? What did it do that P3 and to a lesser extent P4 couldn't?

Do you live in some sort of fantasy world OP? P3 was a big cult hit, P4 was a massive cult hit, it was just on the boarder of mainstream but held back by being on PS2, naturally P5 would be even bigger.

There's a reason Persona 4 got as many spin-offs as it did.

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It was released during a time where social media has just become a factory producing memes out of any movie, music, or video game that comes out. Also there are probably 50 times more "lets play" channels on YouTube since P4.

more specifically It was because of the recent emergence of "geek culture" where liking anime became cool and girls started announcing to everyone that they can also play games

>released on a popular console in it's prime
>game had lots of hype due to the long development cycle and the series cult status
>game is very well presented, music and visuals are very appealing
>demon summoning mechanics similar to pokemon make the gameplay more platable to normies
>social sim elements appeal to biodrones and "modern" WRPG fans
>good story with likeable characters
>Anime is becoming more popular with all the "nerd culture" bullshit.

>>376208654
Sounds exactly like this place.

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>>376206151
This. The sheer amount of attention that went into everything makes P3 and P4 look like indie shovelware in comparison. It's exploding with style.

>>376216621

this gives me eyecancer

>>376216763
Your post gave me eyecancer.

>>376211604
If P3 made you cringe, but this doesn't, you have a very strange way of looking at things.They are both weebshit , with a social simulator slapped on, but its fun weebshit.

>>376211769
And SMT will never be released on a relevant console ever again.

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Question can I decorate my room with some cool gunpla like in p4?

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>>376216068
>Anime is becoming more popular with all the "nerd culture" bullshit.

ehhh normies still seem pretty distant from most anime except things like AoT so I think we are safe.

pls no. Don't take this away from me too

>>376206009

did pewdiepie play it?

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>>376216840
Fucking SAVAGE

I refuse to call it a hit until I see some hard numbers

Knowing sega we will only know on the next financial meeting

>>376207859
All the dungeons in P4 were around 10 floors in length, though their layouts varied from dungeon to dungeon. It's pretty easy to rush past Shadows in P4, so dungeons can be completed pretty quickly.

>>376207036
>a "fuck the system" story that says not much at all
This was the most off-putting part tbqh. They wanted to make the protagonists rebels but don't want them to look bad, so they made them only do "good" things and do it all for other faggots so they can look like they're nice because they help people. Also the bad guys were all so comically bad and had no redeeming qualities whatsoever to further show how good the good guys are.

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>>376218732
>and had no redeeming qualities whatsoever

Spoken like someone who hasn't played it. Madarame genuinely cared for both art and Yuuske but due to increasing demands from Shido he became corrupted, the mafia dude was under constant pressure from Shido to deliver funds if he wanted to keep his position secure and having lived a life on the bottom rung he couldn't risk going back there, Haru's father suffered in poverty and couldn't live that again and despite his faults still left the company to his daughter, and Pancake lord was a little bitch.

>>376206009
1. Marketing
2. Good review of previous game.
3. Accumulated factor of 1&2 over time.

>>376219226
Imagine if Akechi didn't like pancakes and thus didn't feel the need to comment.

He would have won. Really makes you think...

>>376206009
>Why was P5 such a hit with normies? What did it do that P3 and to a lesser extent P4 couldn't?

Anon... P3 and P4 made it to the ps2's greatest hits list. They were pretty popular too.

>>376219383
I wish this meme would fuck off. There were hints all over the place but most of /v/ was too dumb to see them.

>>376206159
>nough popular Youtubers and Twitch streamers covered it. Persona 3 and 4 didn't get that and got low key famous through word of mouth.

Anon... streaming wasn't even that popular back when P3 and P4 was released. It's popular as fuck nowadays.

>>376219226
This. The game emphasized that people are not just monsters or heroes, but are complex creatures capable of good and evil. It was very fair keeping its villains human.

>>376216621
That's overdesigned as fuck.

>>376219226
I really hated that he was magically tied into Shido at the end. Same with the mobster. I'd rather believe they were just ministories leading up to the big bad, not all combined.

>>376219226
>>376219582
It was very poorly done, literally MGS4 tier monologue after the fight that tries to make you feel sorry for them in a very hamfisted way.

>The game emphasized that people are not just monsters or heroes
Show me one piece of dialogue where the game says that the PTs are not the holier than thou heroes they make themselves out to be that isn't a "bad guy tries to discourage them by questioning their motives/goals but gets brushed off shortly and good guys go about doing what they were doing anyway" thing.

>>376206009
Be on PS4

>>376206159
Which is funny considering Atlus tried really, really hard to make sure nobody streams it

>>376220102
first thing that came to mind.

if it's on your (relatively) new system, even if its the fifth game in a series people will still buy it just for the hype bandwagon even when they have no idea what its about.

>>376220102
The game was announced for PS3 only at first and it was still hyped. Had it really come out in 2014 I don't think PS4 would have mattered.

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>>376206009
LONG STORY SHORT:

it looked COOL AS SHIT when i first saw te release trailer for it.

Persona 5 was my first persona game after having played mostly SMT games beforehand.

The persona games just never got my attention till 5 and to top it all of it was a perfect blend between everything i love in SMT games and everything persona fan could like(characters and waifus).

>>376212080
Could be worse
>le "girls programin xD" "codin is ez as 123 on khanacademy!" is fucking over my academic interests as well

>>376206159
i fucking hate this e-celeb timeline i want to leave all these niggers jobless and crippled

>>376220467
You prefer IGN then?

>>376220302
>>376220319
Well it's the reason I bought it. PS4 is the first console that got me back into console gaming, after the long draught of consoles being complete horseshit and PC gaming being dominant.

>>376206009
A shitton of streamers played P3 and P4 in the past 5 years. It's a great game to do let's plays. Even PewDiePie mentioned he wanted to play Persona 4 but the game was too long

>>376220373
>Overdesigned menu
>Lol let's change the color of random letters it will look cool
>Let's tilte the menu too


Plus you still have the 5/10 writing and awful pacing that plague the franchise since 3

>>376220767
i hope all of them suffers career ending life threatening injuries

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Guys, who is the best P5 girl? I literally can't decide.

>>376220435
>having your field of study be filled with retards so employers will value you more in the future
Not a bad thing desu. Thing about actual fields of work as opposed to meme shit is at the end of the day people are going to need results, something no incompetent gurl programuur is going to provide them.

>>376221120
Kawakami. Every single special date scene with her gives me boners and I'm an adult male.

>>376216621
if that's the menu i don't want to buy the game

>>376219778
>he fall the muh overdesign meme

Kek

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>>376221120
>playing SMT IV-A
>talk to asherah after level up
>"Here, dear Nanashi, I kept this Charka Drop warm for you between my breasts"

>>376206009
marketing and hearing about the other games from their nerdy friends. Plus P5 has actual gameplay. Honestly I'm surprised that we liked P3 and P4 as much as we did when the gameplay variety was so crap compared to P5.

>>376212035
Anime was mainstream in the 90s, did you never watch Pokémon?

>>376219992
>>376219992
For one thing they legitimately considered admitting they were the phantom thieves just because of greed and recognition, for another Anne was pretty clear about the fact that she nearly went back to just being a pushover gliding through life

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>>376206009

It's new? More people are open to anime shit, despite all the ironic weebposting.

P3 would have been a huge hit to if it came out today. Hell, it might have been an even bigger hit because of it's somewhat darker tone and fedora undertones (party members dying/MC being literal messiah).

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>>376206009
P5 was a hit because P4 was a hit.

P4 came out in 2008 and received critical acclaim at the time. Since then, it's gotten an anime, several spin-offs, an enhanced remake and even a crossover. A mix between P4 being good, all the P4 exposure and the huge gap between mainline titles pretty much guaranteed P5's success long before it came out. Hell, the first P5 trailer got over 2 million views in a week.

I think P5 is better than 3 or 4, but I also think it's an exaggeration to say that P5 was the reason P5 was such a hit. It was already popular before it even came out.

>>376222097
Shit will only escalate now. Py is a guaranteed hit too. I wonder how it could go wrong.

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>>376219778

>using buzzwords to gain 'le upboats' on 4chins.

It's not over designed at all. It's a simple navigation menu with transitions. The transitions being flashy doesn't make it over designed; it's a stylistic choice. Over designed menu would be something like Fable 3's retarded menu system.

Pic related is an over designed cluttered menu.

>>376221450
Literal shit taste. End yourself.

>>376222261
fanbase turns into meming drooling retards that nobody wants to associate with

>>376221358
It's bad because employers don't value quality. They just want the cheapest curryniggers who will produce unmaintainable garbage that technically solves the problem, and then they will throw more cheap curryniggers at it when it breaks down, in a relentless cycle.

Of course, employers also value diversity, so they will make half your office women even though they can't program for shit.

>>376222407
Is that really the case in America? I'm not from there so I don't know. If it is though then that kinda sucks. No idea how companies are still holding up with such poor business practices.

>>376221870
It doesn't feel like that stops them from being painted in a very positive light though. In fact it's even said that those issues were worked past and they don't have them anymore nor do they suffer from any related repercussions, a luxury that only the player's friends get.

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>>376206372
Basically this, I hate weeb games especially Persona but the soundtrack and the aesthetics made me buy this game and I really enjoy it.

Get fucked faggots.

>>376222097
I just want a console SMT with the same budget as Persona.

With how much Persona 5 is selling we're probably gonna see SMT V on the PS4 which is a good thing, Final fucking bombed on the 3DS both in nippon and the west.

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>Normies took this
>Now they're taking this

Ever think the people in your generation are just getting older and thus more cultured? Your introvertedness just made you ahead of the curve anons, that's all. Nothing is safe.

>>376223149
I'm more curious as to why SMT or Persona is console exclusive. Maybe Nintendo and Sony have deals for those franchises respectively, but I don't see a reason why that SMT Switch game teased a while ago can't come to PS4, or why P5 and its inevitable spinoffs can't come to the Switch. Maybe it's a metaphor.

you don't know what a normie is if you think even one of them bought this game

>>376223639
Wait for the April NPD. I guarantee P5 will at least be top 3

>>376223832
Come on man. With titles like PaRappa the Rapper Remastered, Full Throttle Remastered, Bulletstorm Full Clip Edition, Yookah-Laylee, and Guardians of the Galaxy: The Telltale Series - Episode 1: Tangled Up in Blue, Persona 5 has no chance.

Seriously, it and MK8D were the only April games. It'd be an embarrassment if P5 wasn't in the top 2 of April.

>>376223573
I think it's because Hashino is a Sonyfag and doesn't want his game to be elsewhere
Every game he directed is Sony exclusve, while other games from Atus are scattered around the market
The fact that PQ is on 3DS means Atlus doesn't have a problem with putting Persona games on Nintendo, it's all comes down to who is directing the said games

>>376223832
>>376224114
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/05/05/playstation-store-aprils-top-downloads/

I'm not sure about physical sales but here you go.

>>376206009
Guns

>>376224268
That and P4A. Both of the Arena games were also on 360, because it isn't hard to port games from one console to another these days. Seriously, the Switch would be good for their Jap fans if that thing keeps up the sales at least, and the PS4 would be good for their American and European fans, even though I don't think Atlus knows what a Europe is.

>>376207642
>>376207836
...half of the cast are reference to Lupin and your god damn persona is Arsene.

I think it has nothing to do with the game in particular but more like people finally took notice of the series as a whole and jumps to this one cause it's the newest.

>>376206193
>Question answered 5 posts in
>Thread is still going

>>376222328
Not him but, the menu being coherent doesn't really have anything to do with its art design, you're getting the two confused. A menu can be really jarring visually but be organised and functional.

Personally what bothers me from the P5 menu is that star pattern, it's not very easy on the eyes.

>>376206009
It was released on the modern system instead of the archaic one that had already been obsolete for 2 years like with Persona 4

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>>376206009
>there are people on /v/ who think Persona is niche.

>>376225326
I'm personally not a fan of the text being so oddly arranged. It's legible and readable, but just barely.

>>376225529
My mom's never heard of Persona, and she knows fucking Kirby, so it's pretty niche.

>>376225616
>anything by Nintendo
>not normie-tier mainstream

Congrats, you're an idiot

Why do nobody react to the phantom thieves appearing out of nowhere after their trips to the metaverse? Also, why could your team shoot guns at Akechi when he knew they were fakes

>>376226160
>Why do nobody react to the phantom thieves appearing out of nowhere after their trips to the metaverse?

It's literally the most crowded city in the world.

Don't know why everyone keeps acting as though anime games are now normie tier. I know plenty of normies who consider anime to be weird and think you're a weirdo for watching/playing.

>>376226160
>Also, why could your team shoot guns at Akechi when he knew they were fakes

Probably had to with the fact that they were projected into shido unconcious and as long as he thinks they're real then they are real.

>>376226885
>Probably had to with the fact that they were projected into shido unconcious and as long as he thinks they're real then they are real.
If Shido thinks you're weak and powerless teenagers then why aren't you weak and powerless

>>376226665
you'd still notice a group of 6 six people appearing out of nowhere simultaneously. SOMEONE would see it. especially considering people run around with smartphones everywhere. and after palace collapses you would always return falling into the ground

>>376206009
i blame the memes

>>376222328
>>using buzzwords to gain 'le upboats' on 4chins.
Kill yourself.

>>376227217
I should probably rephrase what I said. He considers those guns to be a visible threat and that's why they are a visible threat in the cognitive world.

>>376226160
>Also, why could your team shoot guns at Akechi when he knew they were fakes
I guess its kind of like how once you hear Morgana talk you cant stop hearing him.

I hate to admit it, but it triggers my inner hipster to see how the media was all over this game at release and to see normies talk about it. Doesnt help that whenever you need to use google for something youre greeted by otaku and other stupid """gaming""" sites with shit like "10 things I wish I knew before playing persona 5". Im just afraid that, now where Atlus knows they got tons of new fans, Atlus goes the same way Squenix went and in a few years they start to pander to normies. P5 already had a huge focus on style, so it would suck if P6 will be style over substance to get the normie $$$.

>>376216621
how can you even look at this?

>>376206009
Streaming exists now

also the difficulty - not that p4 and p3 were particularly difficult themselves - is much lower this time around in comparison

>>376208442
no they don't have the attention span for that

>>376227821
ATLUS will always be the niche weeb game company no matter what happens

>>376227821
P5 is already style over substance

>>376227891
By getting used to it. I hated it at first, but the menu grew on me. It was quick, sleek and eye-catching. You should watch a video to see the demonstration.

>>376227637
To him, yes - but how does that work for Akechi, who's a real person? It makes sense for shadow akechi but that's not the one you're fighting

>>376228354
After this game blew up they're gonna be churning out shitty sequels, look at dark souls 1.

>>376227637
>>376228743
Actually what I think happens is that it depends on what *YOU* believe. After all, your own outfit is also based on your own perception/convictions, rather than anything having to do with the palace owner.

Since you - the person carrying and shooting them - believe the guns will be effective in the metaverse, they are.

>>376228354

Nobody is saying they will become as popular as Activision but JRPGs are re surging in the west. People are starting to get tired of regurgitated Ubisoft shit and open world games.

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>>376206193
Just wanted to respond because you are 100% right

>persona 5 is easier than Pokemon

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It appeals to the revolutionary undercurrent going through Western society.

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So how far do you think normies got in P5 after seeing enough of the stylish menu and realizing that this game is mostly text and teen angst?

>>376206009
It wasn't tho, you are delusional.

>>376229161
Spoken like a true jealous SMTcuck when the little brother of series whose dick you suck are more popular.

>>376229757
Couldnt care less about mainline SMT/Persona war. I just like the idea that people who fall for hype and are used to playable hollywood QTE movies buy P5 because of the hype just to realize that its as JRPG as it gets with all the flaws that come with it (slow pacing, lots of dialogue, grinding, repetetive).

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>>376230270
Sounds like you just don't like jrpgs man

>>376230743
No, not at all. We just all know that jrpgs can be quite tedious at times though.

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>>376230270
>JRPG as it gets with all the flaws that come with it (slow pacing, lots of dialogue, grinding, repetetive).

This is in every RPG though, not just Japanese ones. Most western RPGs have the same exact faults with the exception of grinding. Like every Bethesda game ever or some of the older Bioware games. Before they became all about SJW shit.

I always find it funny when people claim that games like Persona are basically visual novels and weebshit etc. Yet these are usually the same people that praise shit like Mass Effect to the high heavens. When it is literally a visual novel with shit tier fanfic writing and cringy romance.

>>376206009
>Why was P5 such a hit with normies?

Define "hit".