>AC1 >Assassins are a creepy quasi-occult order living

What always happens. Series became popular, lost all its identity and now relies on the simplest stories because that's what publishers think normies want.
Meanwhile they release a couple games that are successful and the series dies horribly while people are left and right asking for 'the return to the roots'

The developers became "diverse"

>>376196903
Writers left after 2

In brotherhood the Assasins were historical figures, but they weren't portrayed as heros like the recent one.
*cough* karl marx

Like the vulpa was pretty ruthless and Machiavelli was overly ambitious to stop the Templars.

>>376196903
It's no secret that all the writing was turned over to a committee to be carefully metered out for fifty billion sequels.

>>376196903
Creator left after 2

He also said recently he had to had his right wing views, so Liberals took over after 2 & it shows

>What the fuck happened?

You became retarded and stopped paying attention.

>>376197117
>portrayed as heros like the recent one.
>*cough* karl marx
Did they seriously portray Marx as a hero?

Fucking disgusting.

>>376196903
AC3 had decent writing for the Templars.
Black Flag too.
In Rogue everyone went full retard.
Never played Unity and Syndicate, but I guess the trend continues.

AC games are just fun to dick around in historical places and climb monuments.

>>376197478
Disgusting, but not unexpected.

Like, if they ever portray Che Guevara we know he'd be shown as a hero, despite the truth being the opposite.

>>376197573
So when they do AC Germany 1935, is Hitler going to be a good guy hero revolutionary, who turns out to be a templar plant?

Because that would be fucking wicked.

>>376197626
They don't have balls to even bring the imagery of Hitler into a game.

>>376197113
This. And also the fact that the series became mainstream popular, thus, being required to pander to the lowest common denominator.

The more diverse they became, the more they killed the originality of the game. The more popular the franchise became, the more default the story became.

>>376196903
True, the Assassins have turned into a bunch of virtue signaling rainbow cast to fill Ubisoft's diversity quotas, but the Templars have been expanded on a lot more in recent games, especially AC3 and Rogue. It's a long way from what it could be, but you can tell there are some people in that company that are actually trying.

>>376197626
Nope, sorry.

Only people who are considered good by general consensus (despite what they actually did) are allowed to be good.

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>>376197626
>>376197675
Hitler was a Templar ally.

AC stories were always dan brown tier

>>376197626
People are afraid of the truth so Hitler would never be anything but an evil sorcerer that eats kids on breakfast.

>>376196903
They fired the guy who invented the series and had to turn it into a franchise, obviously.

>>376197626
All WW2 leaders were in league with each other as Templars I believe, along with a few industrial bigwigs.

I think it was in one of those puzzles for 2 or Brotherhood

>>376197478
>>376197573
>Database entry
>But perhaps his greatest contribution to society was to inspire millions of young men around the world to grow disastrous neck beards, wear skinny jeans, and bloviate endlessly about the "capitalist machine" whilst drinking thimbles of artisanal coffee in neighborhoods that cats wouldn't be caught dead pissing in.

>>376197804
It's essentially the video game version of what happened to The Walking Dead

>>376197767
>lenin assassin
>alexander the great templar

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>>376197867
>being this butthurt that your favoured leaders arent able to inspire as much

>>376197767
>lenin

now I hate assassins

>>376196903
AC1 was the best, even if it was repetitive

>>376197478
I'm as much of a red-blooded freedom-loving Trump/Paul voting American as the next guy, but Marxs intentions were primarily noble.

>>376198060
Not even his mother liked him.
He faked statistics just to get his point across.

>>376197962
Hilarious isn't it.
>>376197974
>now

I lost track of the story in this series after that desmond dude died. The pirate one is the best

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>>376197562
>AC3 had decent writing for the Templars.

Until they do a 180 and turn evil for no real reason after the prologue.

>>376198060
>jew communist
>noble intentions

>>376198013
>that cool atmospheric music
>that creepy washed out feeling (almost as though the story takes place in a machine in the future!)
>the fact that assassins actually acted like aloof professionals with weird motives rather than wacky guys who just so happen to be really good at murdering people

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>>376198060
>but Marxs intentions were primarily noble.

Yeah, well. Good intentions and shit.

>>376198204
Nah, overall they were decent. The point was that they were seen from the eyes of Connor, who is suffering from several tunnel vision. They are not evil, they are seen as evil and controlling. Which is what they are.

It was hamfisted, however noone is right in that game. Both sides just had some of the right ideas

>>376198215
AC1 also, for the most part, wasn't about rubbing elbows with famous historical figures of the time. Of course there was some famous people involved, but it was a lot more interested in actually telling a story.

>>376197767
this is beyond retarded desu

>>376198378
worst thing in ac3 was connor himself. it was otherwise a decent story with some good characters, but when your protagonist is a fucking plank personality-wise you're kinda fucked.

>>376198378
The main dumb thing is that Connor's motivation the entire time is based on revenge for his village.

When it turns out that Washington burned his village down, he just gives him a slap on the wrist and continues his mission despite the Assassins having basically no real objectives.

>>376197767
I can't even fucking read Henry Ford's description because whoever made this is 50 shades of retarded.

>>376198660
Founder of Ford Motor Company and pioneer of modern assembly lines. Leader of the Templar Order

>>376197024
>because that's what publishers think normies want.
It is what they want but they forget they also have a short attention span and burning the bridge to the old fanbase just ensures you watch as the whole thing falls apart because you went after that bigger fish that's only going to stay when you are the new hip thing.

>>376198781
*leading member

>>376198638
I like Connor because of that conflict. It was badly handled because all the best line are fed to Haytham, rather than having them bounce them from each other.
Also the cut end monologue would have tied some loose ends.

>>376198647
Can't have him go after Washington, now could they? It was meant to show both sides as dirty, but did not do the job well. Because the entire writing was too hamfisted.

Still my favourite game of the series along with 1

Because historically, people were evil.

It doesn't make any sense to whitewash history anymore.

>>376198857
Yeah three was pretty sick.

Even if it ends with Desmond taking the objectively bad option.

>>376199021
They just wrote themselves into a corner. Which is pointed out with Cross and his gun to boot.

But they will bring Desmond back since his son is a sage or something.

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Do we know if Bernie or Hillary was the Assassin candidate for 2016 yet?

>>376199092
It really annoys me how they've just turned the modern day segments into an excuse plot.

If they can't be bothered to do anything with it, they should just keep it in a historical setting.

>>376197478
Marx was just a philosopher

>>376199390
What the FUCK was up with that

>Play my first AC game
>Pirates, fuck yeah
>Suddenly get a 15 minute tour of Ubisoft's office
>"Oh no, none of this is real, it's just a simulation"
>"Would you like to try another simulation? It's all pirates though"

>>376196903
3 is what really killed it for me. I wanted to be an unseen entity hiding in the shadows of history, instead I'm sitting in on the fucking signing of the declaration of Independence. AC became like on of those cartoons that try to teach kids history by having characters go back in time and hang out with/help historical figures.

>Assassins side with the Ottomans
>Templars side with the Byzantines
Assassins a shit tbqh

>>376199534
>I hate history: The post

>>376199564
The Byzantines hated assassins.

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>>376199605
>The Byzantines hated assassins.
they were right to

>>376196903
But that isn't true at all.

Without even trying hard to read between the lines, you can see Assassins are consistently painted as the probably bad guys. The protagonists usually have a serious problem with the order or at least disconnected from how they are told to be an Assassin. They eventually come to accept the Assassins' Order, but not after holes are extensively poked in it by Templars (who are often killed for reasons personal to the protagonist) and other members the the Assassins.

I get that you people clearly think SJW are running the show here, but where the fuck are you getting your information?

>>376199672
They liked blinding people though.

The first one is the only one I played. I wanted to play the second one but never got around to it. I also wanted to play Unity because I knew it was in Paris and Napoleon was a character in it, but then I heard it was shit.

>>376199328
Hillary, of course.
>>376199390
Maybe they will with the new one.

>>376199779
at least they saw it coming

>>376197767

Templars supported Alexander the grear

Wtf am i reading

>>376199990
Can't have someone competent by himself. He obviously needed a magic staff.

>>376199483
>the plot is "we're making a video game, so please play what is for all intents and purposes a video game so we can make our video game"

Why even fucking bother at that point. It served for nothing but to break immersion.

>>376200063
Alexander's dad was the competent one though

>>376197767
>they retconned Churchill being a Templar

It was in fucking series lore that all the world leaders were conspiring to throw the world into chaos for the Templars.

This series went from shit to unredeemable shit the moment they gave in to the fans and killed Desmond.

>>376199990
Templars want collective human progression
Assassins want total freedom of the individual

This isn't hard to figure out

>>376200181
>gave in to the fans and killed Desmond

Did people want him dead?

>>376199685
The issue is that the narrative's sympathies STILL lie with the Assassins, even when it's pointed out numerous times that they don't have a coherent reason for hating the Templars outside of personal vendettas.

>everyone clamored for a Victorian England game
>finally get one
>it's a piece of shit and sold like shit

That's what you fags get for trying to stay as close to Italy as possible.

>>376200242
Apparently a lot of people didn't give a shit about the modern day story or Desmond and wanted the game to be entirely about the assassin. Which is fucking retarded, the game had a perfect balance between modern day story and past story, but they fucking destroyed it by killing off Desmond and doing NOTHING after he died

>>376200307
The last Assassin's Creed game people wanted was AC3.

>>376200242
People whined about the IRL parta so they ended it. Now that it's gone people whine for it back.
ACfags don't know what they want, like all fanboys.

>>376200357
AC3 was shit because Connor was a bland fucking character, and there really wasn't a lot of shit to climb on.
Also the ending was awful and killed off the modern day story

>>376200256
Well the narratives are all from an Assassin.. so.. what we don't like is consistency? Or just the lack of a game from a Templar PoV?

>>376198638
Can't blame Connor for AC3's mediocrity. He was fine. Altair was also a plank and AC1 turned out fine despite being repetitive and bland.

>>376200137
He was a pretty good conqueror, if nothing else. Competent in warfare.
>>376200392
I liked climbing trees though

>>376200378
I must be an outlier because I fucking loved the modern day segments.

Milling about, chatting with my bros and exploring whatever area I was in was sick.

>>376196903
they fired the main guy, whaat the fuck, read some articles dumbass.

>>376200475
>what is Rogue

>>376199328
Bernie is an Assassin because he was a commie
Hillary was a Templar plant for the status quo

>>376200392
AC3 was shit because it focused on yankshit for the entire game. Nothing interesting religiously happened in America.

What made the original games great was the tie in with the vatican (Ezio) and Altair's adventures in the Holy Land.

For the third one they needed to return to the Holy Land and tie up the story there with a new character.

>>376200592
Didn't play it. I mean.. I know you killed Assassins in it, but I don't know what happened. I only played the mainline releases.

>>376200535
But outside of scripted missions there was fuck all to do in the wilderness and trees

>>376200653
You're a defector working for the Templars.
Play it because it's actually one of the best in the series.

>>376197767
>Alexander Graham Bell
was a piece of shit, a thief.

>>376200695
So then the narrative isn't that of the Assassins?

>>376198125
>He faked statistics just to get his point across
I would like to know more about this if you have it available.

>>376199483
AC4 was your first, and potentially, the only AC game you played. That's literally your cue in telling me that you can't have an opinion on how shitty the modern plot was, even though it was.

Hated every protagonist but Altair.
Ezio was a mistake but making Ezio be in more than one game was the last nail that killed this franchise.

>>376200756
The assassins are literally the bad guys

They should really make a game where the plot is not based on the whole "assassins vs templars" bullshit. Like, they could retcon >>376197767 this thing again and make it so that Lenin and Hitler were not controlled by either side and make a game about how their rise to power shook up the status-quo and how both orders had to adapt

>>376200818
So then a narrative that isn't sympathetic exists?

I mean I'll play it on you recommendation. I unironically enjoy these games for a bunch of reasons, but then why is there still complaint that Assassins are always the "good guys" when they clearly aren't, even in games where the narrative is sympathetic, and in spite of a game where the narrative is against them?

>>376200815
I never got the hype for Ezio.

Outside of the first few missions of each game, there wasn't really anything that set him apart from Altair.

>>376200242
Not really, no. But at some point they gave up on that plot line as it was caging them in their originally intended series and the race for the mind-controlling satellite.

They then decided on annual releases and the story wasn't compatible with that. Since the story became more of a hindrance instead of a vehicle to promote their product, they killed off Desmond and removed as many anchoring ties as possible so they could make a game about anything.

>>376200664
Since I hate the horses in that game, I run pretty much everywhere every time I play it.

So my bias is showing but I enjoy the wilderness well enough.
>>376200818
Assassins are retarded mustache twirling villains you means

>>376200951
He was the standard good boy hero that matured with age, people probably found him more "likeable" than Altair who was pure professional

>>376200941
Because people don't actually play games before they complain about them

>>376199481
Didn't he himself say he didn't "believe" in his own teachings or something?

>>376198789
Business is all about short term gains these days, my man.

Are you still playing as dude reliving his ancestor's life? I know whats his face died.

>>376200951
He rebuilt the Brotherhood from scratch and was by far the most skilled of all the playable assassins.

>>376200951
I 100% Assassin's Creed 2 and I can't even remember the fucking plot at all while I can clearly remember most of the first game and the cities and the ending and even some buildings.

>>376200756
No. It's the reason people on /v/ keep pushing the "Templars are actually pretty okay guys" narrative.

Edward Kenway was one of if not the best protagonist of the series, arguably because he gave so little a shit about the Assassins and Templars and generally thought they were a bit autistic.

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>lookpuppers and asscreed take place in the same universe
>no game that takes advantage of it
that would be the only way to make any modern daybparts if the games good

>>376201031
Yeah, only you're playing as you the player who is working for Abstergo. I think Syndicate is the first one where you can't even exit the animus

>>376201031
No, you play as self-insert game tester playing other people's memories.

Played the first two, then got bored of the easy peasy no depth combat and parkour, the game basically plays itself.

Have something changed since then? How can people keep playing all those sequels with the same shallow mechanics and not getting bored?

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>>376196903
Wut? Ever since 2 they've made the templars more empathetic and morally ambigous. Neither side is good or bad anymore.

>>376201082
AC4 in general tried to distance itself from most of the Assasin/Templar stuff including the modern day.

It's literally a cool pirate story trapped in a shitty series.

wait so in black flag was that guy tried to kill you actually that one guy from the past?

>>376201095
Unity was the first one where you could exit the animus. Basically you played as a nameless faceless person who never talked, not even in text, who was playing a video game version of the animus.
The whole story was that the assassins hacked into your game and needed your help to find the remains of someone with a piece of eden. No actual explanation as to why they needed YOUR help in particular, and in the end you find out the body's remains are in the catacombs with thousands of skeletons so they assassins say "lol the templars will probably never find it, so there's no need for us to go get it. Thanks anyway"
Unity was obviously the last one I played because of this

>>376201268
I said CAN'T exit the animus.
You can exit the animus in plenty of games before Unity

>>376200198
So then why did they back Elizabeth, Napoleon, Churchill and Lenin?

>>376201054
>and was by far the most skilled of all the playable assassins.
Altair was literally never touched by a guard.

>>376200951
Ezio had a fun personality and charisma since the moment he was introduced, unlike Altair. They made a trilogy solely for him because they had no idea how to make another MC as likeable to casuals as Ezio. Ubisoft was retarded for going back to making another stoic guy as an MC again in AC3. I knew as soon as Connor was introduced fans would hate him because he would be compared to Ezio.

>>376201307
Typo, meant can't exit.

>>376200198
>"Assassins want total freedom of the individual"
>They allied with fucking Lenin.

Assassins are retarded.

>>376201267
Yes. He reincarnates

>>376201365
Connor was boring as shit and had absolutely no personality whatsoever. Even when he was angry he barely could fucking convey it and it felt forced as fuck

>>376196903
Assassin's Creed 3 had some grey morality. Connor rightly bitches that all assassin's ever do is stop templar plots, they don't try to ever actually do anything proactive. It also established templars with noble or relatable goals.

It's still Kino.

https://youtu.be/RjQ6ZtyXoA0

>first game goes in depth to explain the workings of the factions
>later games do less explaining but show more feelings of individuals in said factions as characters change with the times

Holy shit im drunk and figured this shit out, whats your excuse?

>>376201446
Which is what happens when a child's development is stunted by
>where is Charles Lee

>>376201124
Syndicate tries to emulate Arkham Asylum combat but fails pretty hard.

Its pretty bad when Shadow of Mordor has a similar premise to AssCreed and absolutely nailed good combat.

But no. No games have tried to improve the combat. They normally just give you a way to stop it faster.

In Brotherhood you can press a button to kill everyone on screen and kill combos.

In Revelations you have grenades with either kill people or give you free backstabbing.

Three gives you like a million tools to kill everyone.

Black Flag lets you chain pistol shots which allows you to kill up to six enemies at a time.

Unity has a range of guns and shit too.

All they do in AssCreed is give you more methods and gadgets to avoid having to actually play the game.

Syndicate literally gives you a grappling hook so you don't even have to parkour any more.

>>376200307
>finally get a game set in Victorian London
>it's actual SJW trash
Fuck Ubisoft for that. Openly trans person in victorian london my ass.

>>376201129
AC1 first did that though. What broke Altair was when he realized his Master was literally a Templar.

Compared to the other Templars Altair's master sent him off to kill, the Master was actually evil, and Altair's targets were actually doing something good for everyone.

>>376201483
Why did have to end it with an asspull magic twist.

>>376199605
>I hate history: The post
Phrased that badly I guess. I don't hate history, but I wanted to watch it from a distance, not throw fucking tea boxes in the water.

>>376201642
>million tools to kill everyone.
And most of them are useless. What were they thinking?

>>376201642
The command to spawn a fellow assassin to take down a target was incredibly satisfying, to the point where I just fantasized about a game revolving around such a concept, or have it a feature in other games like a reward for being the GM of the dark brotherhood in elder scrolls.

Clicking on a patrolling guard that invokes a follower dropping from the ceiling or a nearby large urn (always spawning out of the player's sight) and slash his throat is a great idea

>>376200337
The modern day story went down the shitter in fucking 2.

>>376201587
Even that line felt forced as fuck. Like goddamn how fucking hard is it to put some convincing anger in voice acting? I'd do it myself but that industry is literally sealed off unless you know someone

>>376201365
Ezio got old real fast, and you can tell that Ubisoft keeps trying to remake him.

How many suave lady's men protags do we have now? 4?

>>376201446
What happened to Connor is that they tried to tell a story like Ezio's from the perspective of a guy like Altair. They tried to mix the original MCs into 1 guy so that fans could find something to like, but they fucking failed.

I feel sympathetic to Connor not just because his village was destroyed, but because Ubisoft can't write a good story for shit.

>>376200646
Could never care about AC2. Renaissance Italy is boring, the most dull period and setting that comes to mind actually. Meanwhile AC3 is set in a time of turbulence and war; pity how black and white AC is.

>>376201890
I still liked it. My problem is that they killed off Desmond and did nothing at all after in terms of modern day shit. Basically just got rid of it

>>376201812
Someone didn't pass them the memo that enemies have to get more difficult to balance the equipment you're giving the player.

When you get to later AC games and you're still fighting the same guys with swords from AC 1 and you're decked out with more equipment than a CoD character, any semblance of challenge flies out the window.

>>376201926
Don't forget they trimmed the fuck out of AC3 for the 2012 release date.

>never see the fall season that was advertised
>or canoes

>>376200520
At least AC1 portrayed Altair relearning the tenents of the order pretty well.
Altair was a stubborn dick and he was often just looking for the easy way to get through the process, over time he actually became more honorable and caring.

>>376201891
Well with the VA strike, now is your chance.

Seriously though, I feel the point is that he did not know how to deal with anything since the death of his mother. He felt a real disconnect with his tribe since they were doing fuck all when all he had in mind was Charles Lee.

And of course, since they fed all the best lines to Haytham while giving fuck all to Connor, he feels really lackluster. You can tell they rushed it out the door for 21/12/2012

>>376196903
Focus shifted to action-oriented gameplay and safer storytelling.

The pace and tone-shift between AC1 and AC2 was fucking mind-blowingly confusing, in that they barely resemble the same series. I've never seen as huge a shift happen in any other series.

>>376202074
And because of the backlash we'll never get a game that fleshed out what happened to Connor.

He really should have taken Arno's place.

>>376201796
Unity's entire setting dealt with watching history from a distance and it was still utterly garbage.

>>376202070
This, Altair had nuance.

>>376202115
He sure should have. Oh well.

I have to wonder about the incoming KANGZ game, how they are going about it.

>>376202074
>Well with the VA strike, now is your chance.
Even with them striking what can you even do? It's not like you can get in direct contact with the companies/devs and offer to work.

I'd love to give voice work a go, but it seems like there's no real way to get into it without doing a shit ton of free work and hoping someone actually looks at your portfolio of free work

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>>376202070
>First game calls Altair a stupid cunt when he tries to use "NOTHING IS TRUE EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED" within the first 10 minutes because that's not what it means

>Every game since brings it up and every protag claims running around being a dick is fine because EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED
>Barely any of them are corrected, none of them ever learn.

>>376202194
This is the company that replaced the old disclaimer with "by a team of various genders". They're going full WE WUZ KANGZ and it'll be just as cringey as Syndicate.

>>376202204
>go to developer website
>we're hiring!
>voice actor roles
>Send a recording
>Hey, you sound good enough for an audition, wanna come over?

>>376200786
He's not wrong though, AC4 would have been better if they ditched the modern parts entirely.

>>376201945
Renaissance was peak AC. It was perfect for the game's premise, and the first civilization storyline. Everything about it was just beautiful. Jumping around churches to grab all the plates that rewarded the player with Altair's armor was cool as shit.

>>376198060
there's this saying about the road to hell being paved with... what was it again?

being an economist i hate the fucker

>>376202312
Only because it's completely meaningless by now. The modern story in the first games had a developing plot which was critical to understanding the bigger picture

>>376202204
I dunno man, Relic could not even get most of their VAs back for DoW3, which a travesty. Maybe there is a way.

>>376201945
But it sucks for what is one of the most important parts of assassins creed games, the climbing and parkour, which all suck in ac3, the streets are wide and the buildings are short while in the previous games there were giant cathedrals, gigantic historical monuments and dense cities. It didn't have the same feeing that the other games did, it was obviously a bad setting for an assassins creed game and they only chose it because it's america.

>>376202389
Don't forget it was a massive cock tease for a modern day AC that we never got.

>>376202309
It can't possibly be this easy.

>>376196903
AC1 was good so the publisher decided it needed to be a yearly release

>>376202269
You can think of it as a corruption of the original tenet over time even though it's more likely Ubisoft not having any good writers

>>376202440
At least tree running and navigating the natural environment was fun in AC3. I had a hell of a lot of fun just prowling around taking out squads.

>>376202275
I confess I am a little eager to see how far they will go.

>>376202269
To some degree that makes sense since most, if not all, of the other protags were brought into the order at an older age and often with limited formal mentoring. Altair was born and raised in the old style order so it would make sense that he'd get called out and take it to heart.

>>376202431
Gorgutz not keeping his original voice was a major travesty

>>376202502
>black people were the smart descendants of old masters
>game takes place of the black main character overthrowing a non-black egyptian dynasty
>somehow ends up attracting a harem of white girls who fawn over how smart he is

>>376202540
Gabe too. Even Diomedes. Some of the voice acting is good tho.

And the Ork writing is decent enough.

>young americans wearing che guevera tshirts
>adoring communism
>calling Lenin a hero
>saying capitalism is greedy and broken

this isn't the america i fought for

>>376202440
>AC1
>climbing is both fun and annoying, have to carefully plot out routes and some of the larger buildings can take 5+ minutes to scale

>AC:Brotherhood
>Climbing is fun, have to unlock an item to help you make some difficult jumps but its pretty simple to get from ground-to-tower except on select landmarks that are deliberately designed to be challenging

>AC4
>Hold the up button and your character ascends at sanic-speeds, every building, tree and cliff is literally made out of handholds so you never get blocked or slowed

I swear the games got worse every single release somehow, even Brotherhood and Black Flag, filled with fun, managed to ruin core aspects of the series at every turn.

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>>376196903
>means justify the ends

>>376202389
The only good parts were in the first game, when you're just a prisoner and you mainly know what's going on from snooping through emails and reading graffitis.

>>376202312
AC4 would have been better if it were an entirely different franchise. I couldn't give a single shit about it because they appealed to the fags who really wanted a pirate game for some reason. The sailing and ship mechanics in AC3 and 4 was great though, but holy shit did I not give a single fuck about what was going on in that game because I was still pissed as fuck about what they did with the entire storyline in order to even make AC4.

>>376202070
>Altair was a stubborn dick and he was often just looking for the easy way to get through the process

Only if you skip the information gathering missions.
Altair was the highest ranked Assassin in the creed and only failed the mission(the first one the player gets to see) because one of the brothers reached out to him when he was about to kill the templar causing him to lose balance.

>>376202487
I would have liked it if 3 had a good fast travel system. Most of the time Homestead and Frontier are just something that get in your way.

>>376202614
thanks for your service maga lol

>>376202617
AC Unity brought huge improvements in the combat and climbing

>>376202473
Not even remotely possible, since corruption of the core tennants would imply the Assassins have become the bad guys over time even though they've always been the bad guys and the devs wouldn't let the DIVERSE, INCLUSIVE FREEDOM-FIGHTING ASSASSINS ever be regarded as the bad guys.

>>376202507
Failing to grasp the core message of the creed seems like a big fucking deal, though. I mean they already eliminated the '3 creeds' after the first game and only ever used the generic slogan instead, so even a junior assassin failing to grasp it would be smacked upside the head immediately. Altair got fucking shanked for it 10 minutes into the game, always ground my gears that the protags of later games could say it straight to a master's face and not get their shit slapped.

>>376202778
I really enjoyed the frontier and homestead. I wish they had extended the frontier shit and made it more fleshed out.

>>376202876
>DIVERSE, INCLUSIVE FREEDOM-FIGHTING ASSASSINS ever be regarded as the bad guys.
They very clearly did in Rogue. And in AC3, though that was more a morally grey deal.

>>376202617
>have to unlock an item to use the skill that you've already learned
That was fucking bullshit.

Man, am i fuckign glad that Ubisoft is getting eaten by Vivendi

Dumb fuckign retards earned it

>>376202961
Yeah that was stupid, but it was cool that in AC2 you had to learn that skill from the Venetian thief chick. Gave a sense of progression that got totally lost in later games.

>>376203049
I liked that they explained it by Ezio being old and needing the wrist brace. I wish they'd have done more with him getting old.

>>376202741
I would have preferred they kept AC a trilogy with the final game being set in the present. It was building up just fine up until the father of the series left Ubisoft. AC:B and AC:R could still exist just fine if they wanted, but AC3 should have concluded the series with Desmond as the MC. Fuck everyone else who wanted to stay in the past. After ending AC they could just make an entirely different franchise for that, or even just a bunch of AC spinoffs with no modern protagonist, but leaving the truly original concept for AC3 as the absolute canon ending to the franchise. This would have worked out perfectly fine for everyone.

>>376202837
I'll take your word, after the utter garbage of Revelations and AC3, Black Flag was my last chance for them. I enjoyed it fine, but when it was clear the actual "Assassin's Creed" was dead and buried and all the new games would just be shitty reskins or entirely new reboots, I lost interest forever.

>>376200578
I loved modern day segments when they were good. Modern day story was great in AC1 and way too simple in AC2, didn't really give a shit about it after that. Decided to pirate AC:Unity few years later, there is a modern day "story" where you play as unnamed protagonist and all the story is about some 1337 assassin haxxorz told offscreen

>>376199797
Unity is the third best AC game, it got a lot of shit because it was unplayable at launch but the game is top in everything but the plot.

Even the setting and most of the characters are top.

Gameplays wise is ages ahead of the rest of the series.

Totally worth the 5€ you can find it for in key sites

>>376203093
Ezio was 50 YEARS OLD when ACR was set. The man really needed a break, not more things to be dealt with just because you're old as fuck.

>>376196903
>play AC Revelations
>Ottomans (people who enslaved and massacred christians and minorities on mass) are the good guys
>Byzantines (last remnant of Roman Empire who are just fighting for their old glory) are the bad guys
never dropped a game faster

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>After years of rehashes, Unity comes and brings genuine changes to the franchise, makes combat actually difficult and a non-button mash, open boxes assassinations etc.
>Timmy McFuckface complains because his alienware shitbox his parents bought him can't run it at 60fps
>Ubisoft goes and makes Syndicate, reverting all the changes to combat and such so that it's playable by even the dumbest of retards

fuck everything

>remove "desmond is the chosen one" and super-advanced ancient civilization
>keep origin of the pieces of Eden mysterious
>give templars a noble goal like trying to fix global warming, war, hunger etc. by controlling everyone with the power of the pieces of Eden
>put good and evil people on both sides
>make AC3 about Haytham and fix the shit gameplay (no free aiming with guns, can only switch between two weapons without pausing the game, garbage crafting/trading system at the homestead)
>remove all phone app bullshit
>fix AC Unity bugs before releasing
>nerf hidden blade counter spam earlier
And that's how you turn Assassin's Creed into one of the best video game series

>>376200578
You and me both, brother. Except, I stopped giving a shit about it when they killed Desmond and replaced him with """"""""""""""you""""""""""""""""" since retards liked to whine about Desmond.

>>376203374
>caring about minorities and Christians

Fuck off.

>>376203579
t. turkroach

>>376203579
t. turkroach

>>376203579
Yusuf get out

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>>376203579

>>376203418
Nah, that's how you sell out to dumb fans.

Literally all you have to do is keep the original concept laid out and not let it become a cash cow. It was doing perfectly fine until they started subtitling games. AC3 as it stands should not exist, and should just be replaced with how it was originally planned to be.

>>376203579
this is a Christian board
leave

Assassins Creed 3 had pretty weak writing but it wasn't for the moral ambiguity, the main villains motivations were surprisingly redpilled.

>destroy the institutions of kings and church so the people most adept at making (jews) money are the new rulers

Too bad the series is too silly to be taken seriously, I just play it because they have insane budgets and can bring historical locations to life

>>376203473
Desmond had a hard life. The problem was they forced him to take center-stage; in AC1, he was still an unlikeable foppish cunt, but he was at least relatable and did his job as an audience surrogate going "What? Explain? That sounds dumb. What's going on!" at appropriate intervals. When you try to turn someone like that into an actual character, of fucking course it doesn't work. When Stephen Merchant himself is sarcastically calling you a cunt and sounding justified, you know you fucked up hard.

>>376203913
AC1 was interesting
AC2 was le hollywood action movie so it stopped being even remotely interesting

>>376203418
>>give templars a noble goal like trying to fix global warming, war, hunger etc. by controlling everyone with the power of the pieces of Eden
They already do this with Templars that aren't comic book villains.

>>put good and evil people on both sides
Already do this.

>>make AC3 about Haytham and fix the shit gameplay
How about just not let the American Revolution plot exist at all? Can't do anything about a shit engine.

AC Unity shouldn't exist.

>>376203646
>>376203656
>>376203726
>>376203738
>>376203816
>implying I give a shit about any religion or minorites

Go visit /pol/ for once. Open your eyes.

>>376203864
>Assassins Creed 3

Unity. I'm still playing it today, just walking around Paris doing random side quests or co-op, the game is really pretty,

>>376204057
weak b8

>>376203579
t. turkroach

>>376203374
The same Roman Empire that literally did the same thing?

Revelations was mostly about personal intrigues and their fallout, not Ottomans vs Byzantines. The Templar mastermind was Ottoman, you still fought with Ottoman guards all the time, and you almost fight on the spot with the Sultan at the end as he tells you to fuck off and never return.

>>376204220
To be fair, both empires had a golden age where they stopped giving a shit about eliminating everyone who isn't like them, which actually boosted their economy and trade

>>376204220
Aren't the Ottomans cunts in the game too?

>>376204220
At least Romans gave minorities the opportunity to assimilate. Either that, or they'd be enslaved or killed.

>>376204752
Did he not already imply this?

>>376204767
so did the ottomans

it was full of greek/balkan slav higher ranking people in the elite

>>376204767
And the Ottomans did the same. Point is the game wasn't some kind of Byzantine Ottoman war at all where you side with one over the other. The Byzantines were dead by this time, and you're more or less dealing with one guy claiming a defunct throne backed by shady mercenaries and unknown forces for the sole purpose of finding out what those backers know about Altair's library.

>>376196903
>AC1
>Assassins dress in white robes to blend in with monks

>Every other AC game
>Assassins wear the instantly recognizable assassin uniform because it's brand recognition

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>>376197767
I wonder where that puts me?

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>>376196903
Doesn't this series take place over thousands of years though?
Course things would change.

>>376205094
Syndicate changed that tradition.

>>376199328
I'm so glad Assassin's Creed isn't popular enough for people to make shallow Harry Potteresque references to it during current events.

>>376197767
Assassins have women while templars are all men.

>>376203374
I played through it but that storyline for the game just bored me to tears. ACR was when I stopped buying their games.

SING ME A SHANTY

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>>376197117
>>376197425
These. A shame this series is now being dragged into the dirt.

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>>376203418
>Remove templars
>Remove assassins
>Remove ancient aliens
>Remove conspiracies
>Remove present day storyline
>Remove the in-game historical simulation plot and its aesthetic
>Have a low-key personal story like the first half of ACII

>>376205916
>Jesper kyd

Fuck he made good music. The chase theme in AC1 always gets my blood rushing.

>>376202375
Economy is pseudoscience fuck off

>>376197767
>Alexander the Great
>Xerxes
>Templar
the fuck?

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>>376197867
>>376197117
>>376197478
>>376205916
>>376198125
>>376198213
>>376198346
>>376202375
Bawaahh wahhhhh

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>AC: Pirate was the only AC I touched.
>Order of assassins have a recognizable uniform for some reason
>They are a bunch of chosen ones and religious nutjobs.
>Meanwhile Templars all seem to be on the level, spreading law and order and even their 'evil plan' in the game seems objectively good

Black Flag felt like I was playing as the villain. Which, I guess was okay since it was a pirate game.

it was fun as an high school italian playing ac2 and the others sent in italy since you had all these historical characters you were just studying in school

>>376208408
zitto animale

>>376203374
But both the Ottomans and Byzantines would beat you up.

>>376197024
Nah most series go for the "the good guys are now actually going to betray you" stock sequel.

>>376204848
It's a bit deceptive to say that when they were all janissaries though.