How come there were no strong, non-sexualized female characters

I guess /v/ has no answers.

>>376181450
You can't sexualize a little girl

In terms of the other chick, I don't actually know. I guess they made them stronger characters since they were so prevalent.

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>>376182839
>You can't sexualize a little girl

What's wrong with sexualization?

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nice try friend

>>376183051
Fucking everything you idiot, it removes anything artistic.

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>>376183431
>it removes anything artistic.

>>376183431
That's objectivally wrong and you know that

Some of the greatest pieces of art involve sexuality

>>376182839
>You can't sexualize a little girl
Where do you think we are?

>>376183640
>>376183684
The sexuality isn't flagrantly exposed for the viewer of the art to fap to though, unlike Dragon's Crown/Persona/etc.

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>>376183897
>its not art if its sexually stimulating
I guess nothing is art since anybody could be turned on by anything.

>>376184025
That's not what I said idiot, there's a difference between the beauty of Venus and a big breasted, exposed cleavage vidya character.

>>376183897
Dense.

>>376184231
>there's a difference between the beauty of Venus and a big breasted, exposed cleavage vidya character.
And that difference is?

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>>376183338
>not a sequel
>ruined faith's cute Asian face to some ugly half asian/white face with that stupid nose
>unessescary open world, tacked on progression upgrade system and causalized parkour routes.
>reboot bombs and is completely forgotten.

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>>376184231
>exposed cleavage
guess this isn't art

>>376184275
Nobody fapped to Venus.

>>376184545
Humans have been masturbating since before recorded history, I'm pretty sure somebody spanked it to Venus. Guess its not art now.

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>>376184275
This isn't art either because the King of Spain jacked off to this

>>376184673
You know what I mean. Venus was not intended as pornography.

>>376184545
You don't know that

>>376184753
Neither were any of the games mentioned ITT so far.

>>376184920
Persona? Not intended as pornography?

Dragon's Crown's mage design?

Get the fuck out of here.

>>376185172
So the fact the characters were designed to be attractive makes it porn and therefore not art? Would you prefer everybody ugly and or wearing burkas?

>>376185342
The fact that one of them explicitly intends you to pick your favorite and romance them.

>>376185434
So movies based on romance, or that feature sex scenes aren't art? What about literature or drawn images?

>>376185521
Now you're intentionally being stupid. There's a huge difference between a movie with a romance in it, and a game that actively encourages and teases you into sexually gratifying yourself with women in game.

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>>376184445
She doesn't look like that ingame though, they chose a bad picture of her to stick on the cover
Faith looks great ingame

>>376185731
And the difference is?

>>376185792
Are you retarded

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>>376185434
You don't like pretty girls?

>>376185819
Are you? If its such a huge difference it should be easy to explain.

>>376185871
How about a movie having a romance doesn't make the romance, the sexual appearances, etc. the fucking main entree.

>>376185936
romance is literally a genre of movie

>>376185936
How do you know that's the case?

>>376185989
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind isn't about sex and how hot the two of them are together.

>>376181450
This thread is stupid and gay. It should be bannable honestly.

>>376185172
Yes, the developers of Persona and Dragon's Crown were considering the porno market during concert art.

>>376186123
Hello, OP.

>>376186092
neither is persona 5

i dont even like that piece of shit game

>>376186092
Neither were any of the games mentioned ITT so far.

>>376186169
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>>376186301
Then why does Persona consistently goad the player into romance, constantly make sexual jokes and puns, etc.?

It's sad this much argumentation has to be made. Gamers can't accept the idea of a platonic female relationship in a game.

>>376186367
How does that matter?

>>376185936
Who the fuck whats to date a girl with zero sexual appeal?

>>376186482
Because it makes the sex the main entree, it makes fapping the gameplay.

>>376186367
sexual jokes and puns are much more common in japan and its a japanese game

ITT: neckbeards defend their waifu simulators rather than wanting games to be better

>>376186367
>goad the player
oh so hard, so difficult, I can't resist women coming on to me

>>376186557
youve never even played persona 5 you stupid faggot
>fapping the gameplay

jesus christ youre fucking retarded

>>376186592
>better
in your opinion

>>376186653
I've played every Persona game, they all are pathetic with the waifu b8.

The difference between SMT and Persona is especially clear: one is working to be a holistic work; the other is a piece of pornographic fiction.

>>376186557
I'm still not getting how someone being sexually attractive makes it not art, is sexuality not something that can be expressed artistically?

>>376186592
how does getting rid of games with sexy characters make games better?

we can have it both ways

>>376186756
>I've played every Persona game
>they all are pathetic with the waifu
so you haven't played them all

>>376186767
Maybe because you keep misreading/representing my argument?
Here, read these posts again idiot:
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>>376184545
>>376185731

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>>376186767
And to think this thread started out as op baiting people saying ellie is the first strong non sexualized female character

>>376186917
Well OK, I haven't played 1 or 2. But I intend to and I hear they are much closer to SMT.

Which begs the question: why go to pornography? Because of the money.

>>376186756
>ive played through every game of a series i hate

you really are fucking retarded.

>>376186985
I don't hate the series, but it has big problems.
Believe it or not you can like something with problems.
I like /v/ despite it being filled with teenagers like you.

>>376186925
Once again, I don't see the difference. If its about the artists intent, what if the Persona director outright said its not to be fapped to?

>>376186982
maybe if you keep calling it pornography it will eventually become true

fucking kill yourself

>>376187043
>what if the Persona director outright said its not to be fapped to?
Did they? I don't think they did, and if they did then they are lying to save face.

>>376184545
>Nobody fapped to Venus
I highly doubt that. On /b/ back in the day some anon jerked it to the Mrs butterworth tub.

>>376187118
Its a hypothetical question, assume they said it sincerely.

>>376187118
>its impossible for me to be incorrect no matter what, theyre all just liars

you sure seem like a reasonable fellow

Yes hello this is Jade from beyond good and evil.

>>376187185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author

>>376187243
You don't exist according to op Jade
And I bet you're gonna get replies saying how sexualized you are
I've never payed your game Jade forgive me

>>376187321
Then by your logic, nothing is art since somebody has fapped to everything ever made by humans.

>>376187413
This entire thread, everyone has completely misrepresented and strawmen'd my argument.

For the fifth time, kid:

Just because it has sexuality DOES NOT mean that sexuality and pornography was the INTENDED PURPOSE.

>>376186982
At least you're honest.
>why be indecent?
how have they gone pornographic? by having women come on to you? having women in swimwear? this all so light tone to call it pornographic.

>>376187476
So now the artist intent matters again?

>>376187584
Intended purpose, primary purpose, what the fuck ever.

What I'm saying is that there are way more waifu threads and R34 posts about Persona than there are analyses.

>>376187661
So MLP is porn then?

>>376187713
DON'T SUMMON HIM FUCKER

>>376187713
Maybe not pornography, but the Brony audience is the MLP audience. It's not a kids show at this point.

>>376187661
can't fault the art for how people react to it.
I'm sick of waifu threads too but that's just par for the course on this site

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I'm attracted to Ellie. Does this make me a pedo?

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>>376187787
So what exactly is your definition of porn?

>>376188167
Yes...

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>>376188167
No, Ellie is cute

>>376184025
Is this Guild Wars 2 Fanart? Looks like someone's GW2 armor mashup.

>>376188229
The MLP audience is not majority romance fanfic/horse porn, it's majority neckbeards who want to look different.

>>376188167
depends, how old are you?

>>376188360
25

>>376188424
and how old is she?

>>376188482
14

>>376182839
>You can't sexualize a little girl
Wew lad that's one hell of a shitpost

>>376188564
Technically not. You just have really bad taste.

>>376188564
very good, now tell me, how many years apart is that is from yourself?

>>376188564
Mmmm-mm get me some bbq sauce on something like that

>>376188303
Its from a Shin Megami Tensei artbook.

>>376188321
There are literally millions of R34 images of ponies, how is MLP having lots of R34 different from Persona 5?

>>376188681
12

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>>376188696
Forgot my image

>>376188739
Now divide your number by itself, and multiply it by your age. What do you have left?

>>376188793
Through 12 is 1, times 25 is 1

What?

>>376188739
just wanted to make sure we cleared that up
now, what is the legal age of consent for her?

>>376188889
You failed this very simple thing. I told you to divid the number by itself, which would be 1. Then multiply that 1 with 25, which would give you 25. You're not a pedo.

>>376188943
>moralfagging this hard
Time to fap to some doujins

>>376181450
Pretty sure there were plenty of girls that weren't sexualized before TLoU. The girl and the sprite from Secret of Mana weren't sexualized at all, for example, and that was a Japanese game from 1993. Samus wasn't sexualized, either, and Metroid was made in 1986. You didn't even know Samus was a girl until the end of the game. Granted, she was sexualized later, but not during the original game.

So how about you think about your question for a couple of minutes before running here and spewing them out? Makes you seem less retarded.

>>376188972
I'm starting to think we didn't learn anything from this -_-

>>376189131
ALL YOU HAD TO DO, WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN LINE OF THINKING, ANON!

>>376188972
You're a fucking tard.

It's the older person's age divided by 2 (round up if you get a half year) then add 7.

25/2 would be 12.5, so round up to 13. 13+7 is 20. That is the lowest appropriate age for a 25 year old to seek, and have any hope of long-lasting permanence in a relationship.

>>376189131
>not hive-minding
Fuck off

>>376181450
There were, you just were too much of an opressive shitlord to notice OP.

>>376182970
not in a western AAA video game, you dolt.

Japan, though, that's different

>>376189087
>So how about you think about your question for a couple of minutes before running here and spewing them out? Makes you seem less retarded.
>Replying seriously to the most obvious false flagging in the universe.
How about kill yourself or develop a sense of self-awareness?

>>376189276
Don't be a moron. The real formula is

Your age - your age + 16

>>376189371
>western AAA video game
You mean in a game for pussies AAA video game

There's a max age though. For example, there's nothing weird about a 50 year old fucking a 21 year old.

>>376189457
But it is weird for a 100 year old to be fucking a 20 year old

>>376189457
Meant for >>376189276

>people seriously responding to a bait thread

>>376189567
I'm convinced that every thread on the popular boards is bait.

>>376189567
>not feeding the bait
Faggot

>>376189087
No one can be this new.

>>376189567
on /v/ of all things, who would've thought

>>376189443
>a game for pussies AAA video game
more like a game for normies AAA video game

same thing depending on who you ask though I guess