Did the normie influx in video games start with clamoring for

>>376177932

ugly jewess is ugly

>>376177932
is that a fucking man

Why are you posting ethan's sister?

>>376177932

did the influx of your father's cock in your 6yo boipucci start your path to being a complete fucking faggot?

standard answer is yes.

>>376177932
Videogames are art. And if complexity defines "art", than videogames have many mediums beat.
Also normies appear in every medium eventually.

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>>376178198
>And if complexity defines "art"

>>376178125
That's his caretaker asshole.

>>376177982
>>376178068
she's cute desu

>>376177932
It is art, shit art. There, go fuck your mum.

>>376178669
So are you saying it does or doesn't? I would personally say it doesn't.

>>376178669
>Dummy enjoys this self obsessed dyke
>Can't reply to the right person
>Post has no value, can't even be understood

Everything checks out.

>>376177932
She's hot but I hate her style.

>>376179082
It does not matter

What matters is acknowledging that GAME is not ART the same way that SPORT is not ART either despite having more skilled athletes than those performing ballet.

>>376177932
No, the normie influx was a result of AAA games increasingly designed to pander to the lowest common denominator. The "clamoring" for them to be recognized as art was there before--many people have wanted games to be considered "art" because they feel it would legitimize their hobby--but obviously it swelled up hilariously not long after the influx, which is when all the vidya journalism sites started to push shit like Gone Home and Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us as a bigger deal than they actually were. They did this because they felt those games could be held up as shining examples of why video games should be taken seriously as an art form. The obvious irony being that they're all mostly trash.

>>376179310
>What matters is acknowledging that GAME is not ART

art1
ärt/
noun
noun: art; plural noun: arts; plural noun: the arts
1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
"the art of the Renaissance"
synonyms: fine art, artwork
"he studied art"

>>376179430
i was about to say, i remember the "games are art" thing was really heavily pushed by game journalists who wanted to their career to be perceived as more legitimate

>>376179310
Well duh, not all art has the same artistic merit. But videogames are still art in the same way that Beethoven's symphonies have more perceived artistic merit than Justin Beibers singles, or how the Mona Lisa has more merit than a child's finger painting of their mother.

Games are art objectively, but their artistic value is debatable; a pointless debate, when considering the fact that the value of art is subjective.

>>376177932
vidya gayms are fart

>>376177932
it started when Nintendo had the great idea of selling the NES with R.O.B. so that it would be placed in the toy section rather than the electronics section

but really you could argue it was actually when arcade machines became popular

>>376179708
What the fuck am I looking at?

>>376179761
>Beethoven's symphonies have more perceived artistic merit than Justin Beibers singles

As a thought experiment, why is this so? Having worked harder in the craft?

>>376179749
>game journalists who wanted to their career to be perceived as more legitimate
Yes, I forgot to mention this point.

>>376179838
a horse without a hoof

>>376179838
https://www.google.ca/search?q=inside+of+a+horse+hoof&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMmcGf5NzTAhVJ4IMKHS5rCw0Q_AUICigB&biw=1199&bih=799

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>>376179761
>Games are art objectively

>>376179838

I think it's a goat or something with it's hoof ripped off

>>376179903
>Having worked harder in the craft?
Not him but there are a lot of people who think this way when it comes to artistic merit. Not me, personally, but since the dude was deaf there's some significance in the fact that he was able to create the works he did, which I think people take into consideration.

>>376179838
Lamellar corium, coronary corium, and the perloplic corium, not pictured is the digital cushion, and the cuneal corium as well as the bulbar corium.

>>376177932
No, it was Call of Duty.

games are shart

>>376178875
Nah nigga.
That bitch is rough.

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>>376180278
No, it was The Big Bang Theory

>>376179903
I didn't say I did feel that way specifically, just that other people feel that way. Like I said, discussing the artistic merit/value of any medium is determined by the opinion of the person experiencing it, and ultimately pointless in debating it.
>>376180006
What's your thoughts on why it is it not? What exactly separates a painting or song from videogames?

>>376180340
She looks like a sexy girl mixed with a horse and an alien

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>>376177932
What the hell is that thing?

>>376180428
Did the alien and the horse eat the sexy girl?

>>376180407
>and ultimately pointless in debating it.

It's not pointless but you're so shut downy I don't want to talk about it anymore. Meanie.

>>376178875
>>376179296

>she
That's a man.

>>376179310
But what about OTHER GAME?

>>376177932
i wonder if she shaves her pusy

I think until devs get over the idea that the art design, music and story aren't what makes a game art (not to discount their importance, though), we'll be stuck in they "toy" phase. Games' biggest strength is interaction and the best games use that as a way to invoke an emotional response. When a game feels good to play and it's systems work together in a way that is fluid and an extension of the player, that's when a game can become art. In the same way we talk about prose, composition, and cuts in writing, painting/drawing, and film, respectively, game design is what we should be taking to a higher, more critical level.

[/spoiler]At least that's my opinion[/spoiler]

>>376180716
a jewess

>>376180716
>17 is Gaara now
y tho

>>376177932
I feel like it began when people started wanting games to be more like movies.

>>376180893
I thought the same thing when i saw the episode earlier today. 17 is pretty chill though.

>>376180809
Probably not. Imagine Ethan taking her to the bone zone.

>>376180847
Can it be slain?

>>376180747
Sorry I don't mean to be. I could have reworded a little nicer by saying it "has no real answer". Talking about why some people like things more than others is important, but I also think it is also ultimately pointless. I don't mind talking about it with you though, Cutie :)

>>376180845
if you get an emotional response playing a video game it's only because of your stunted emotional growth.

>>376181683
im a real man i dont feel anything

>>376181683
Do robots post on /v/ now?
You telling me you haven't even felt angry while playing a game? Do you know where we are?

>>376181765
i see the defensive mechanisms kicking in

still, video games are not art.

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>>376177982
stop talking shit about Joost you meanie

>>376182096
never claimed that they are, i'm just pointing out that your "im a real man i dont feel anything" shit is retarded

>>376182247
yeah that's your strawman though

I miss him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Fib7KNb0U

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>>376177932
It happened when nerd culture starting blooming in the late 2000's with the rise of the internet. LOL IM SUCH A NERD XDD hipster fucks starting getting into it.

It used to be about nerds making awesome fun games that they liked and now it's transitioned into feminazi SJW stupid bullshit. Game companies these days hire people to meet a quota rather than their experience.