>if you're out of lives, no matter how far into the game,

How do you die in Sonic the Hedgehog?

The game's health mechanic makes it nearly impossible to die and there's only 2 or 3 levels with instant death pitfalls.

>>376163813
It's a relic of the arcade systems. Sega was born and died from the arcade. So, yeah.

>>376163813
Then what should happen when you run out of lives according to you? Plenty of games from the 8bit and 16bit era did this.

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>>376163813
Wasn't it more to do with memory constraints?

>>376163907
Why is sonic blue?

>>376163813
>Sonic is my first retro game, dudes!

>>376163813
You can beat the game in 30 minutes. It's meant to be replayed over and over again. Sonic 1 is pure greatness.

>>376163813
>what are continues?
t. retarded faggot OP

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>>376163970

Why do you make shit up for things you don't understand?

>>376163813
1/10

Not even a segay

>>376163813
You don't. There's continues.

Not that you would know, not having actually played the game.

>>376163813
Most (good) games from that era were designed to ease you into the mechanics of the game as you advanced, teaching you how the game worked as you played and testing what you've learned later on.

If you sucked so much you completely ran out of lives, the game sent you back to the beginning as a way of saying, "You didn't learn shit. Start over and pay attention this time." It's no wonder today's entitled ADHD gamer can't comprehend games without automatic checkpoints or no fail states.

>>376163813
There are continues but you got to earn them, you fucking cry-baby.

Sonic 1 hands out lives and continues like candy.

if you managed to get to a game over screen and unable to continue then I don't know how you managed to stay in this hobby for this long.

>>376164087
>Sonic 1 is pure greatness
Marble Zone is just a pain in the ass tho.

>>376164258
Marble Zone is unironically my favorite Sonic zone.

>>376163907
Because I was like 4 years old when it came out and was actually played

I Hated the water level with a passion and use to rage and throw a fit even back then.

>>376164150
He plays games for 10 minutes a piece before switching. He doesn't even need to save, the game does it for him.
How would the retard know?

>>376164353
I bet you think Sonic 3 is the best Sonic, too.

Urgh.

>>376164523
No, it's actually Sonic 1.

>>376163952
>Then what should happen when you run out of lives according to you?
You go back to Act 1 of the level you're playing?

It's a sufficient punishment.

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>>376164523
>implying it isn't
ugh

>>376164242
Hobbies are supposed to be fun and relaxing, not challenging and stressful.

>>376164729
Nice bait. You probably shouldn't ever play a Contra game if this really bothers you.

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>>376164729

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>>376164863

You picked the wrong media to be your hobby then

>>376163907

Scrap Brain can turn you into mince meat. Sure, you've got rings, but get hit enough and they'll thin out eventually, and if you miss that last one, you're fucked.

If there was one level that could exhaust this nearly infinite resource, it was Scrap Brain Zone.

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>>376164940

>Picked the screenshot that doesn't have the sword quote

Fuck

>>376164905
I don't intend to.

>>376164940
But modern Sonic games are fun.

>>376165105

That's only true for Act 2, and even then you could tank through the stage and be just fine.

Even if you get fucked, you should have collected a stockpile of lives and continues by then that would eventually force yourself to get good.

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>>376165113
>But modern Sonic games are fun.

>>376165113
>But modern Sonic games are fun.
So are the classics ones, more so even.

>>376165303

Act 1 is like that as well, you just got really really good after playing enough times. I went back to Sonic 1 after years of not playing, and let me tell you, Act 1 is brutal as well. It only became relatively tame after I committed it to muscle memory and played Sanic nonstop.

Back then games were short as fuck so if they didn't pull bullshit like this you'd complete them in 20 minutes.

>>376163907
Labyrinth Zone

>>376165694
Not with this atrocious level design that goes against the momentum you're building up.

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>>376166052
>momentum you're building up
At least the classic games HAD momentum to build up in the first place.

>>376166052
Get the fuck out of here with this shitty bait, you limp-wristed faggot.

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>>376165840

Act 1 is absolutely not brutal in any shape or form. It's the only stage in the entire game that actually demands you to platform, and that's hardly a challenge. The only time you'd see trouble is if you're an idiot and take the lower paths, and even then those sections can be cleared if you have a bit of patience and don't just hold right on the d-pad.

The only thing you're telling me is that you're fucking terrible at a basic platformer. SMB3 tossed more shit at you than any Sonic game is capable of doing.

>>376166216
didn't lost worlds have a run button? I beat it like a year or two ago.

>>376166216
At least compare it to Generations, we all know Lost World sucked.

>>376166959

Why would that matter?

>>376166959
It did, which is one of the biggest reasons why it's shit.

>>376167076

I'm too lazy to make a WebM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16IBC_kD5o

>>376164863
Hobbies are meant to be satisfying above anything else. That can come from achieving challenging goals through learning and improving skills, aka the very basis of videogames.

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>>376167206
I was trying to find this video again for ages.

>>376164863
Playing
Games
Is
Not
A
Hobby

Get this through your fucking head faggot

>>376167731
>LE VIDJA GAEMS ARE A WAY OF LIFE XDDDD *TIPS FEDORA*

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>>376167206
That sums it up.

>>376167206

>Those comments

>THE LOOP IS WAY BIGGER THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T WORK! THIS VIDEO IS BULLSHIT!

>>376168124
No you faggot video games are simply a pass time a thing to do when you are bored they are not a hobby they are not meant to be super passionate about they are something you do to fill time thats its nothing else

>>376165303
There are crushers on the conveyors in Act 2 which meant rings won't help you.

>>376164242
The only place I know that gives continues is the special stages, and even then you can't just fly your way straight into the goal areas and actually collect the rings in them.

>>376168164
>people will say this requires hundreds of playthroughs of memorizing that specific level when it was simply brave spindashes and twitch reactions on top of knowing how to actually play

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>>376164652
Excellent taste.

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>>376167076
>>376167206
>I'm too lazy to make a WebM
I gotcha dude, freshly made.

So how does mania handle rolling?

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>>376169152
Like it should.

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>>376169046

Thanks my dude

>>376169046
>person turns around halfway up
>GAME IS BAD
no.

>>376165415
This is the epitome of fun in a modern Sonic game.

Go fuck yourself.

>>376169240
Aaaaannnnnnd sold! Ill take 20

>>376169306
Try actually playing Generations instead of outing yourself as a retard.

>>376164013
Because the water's reflecting on him, dumbass.

>>376169306
Some amount of the loops have boost pads on them.

>>376163907
To be honest this isn't really true in Sonic 1, it's actually not an easy game especially when water gets involved

Later Sonics I can see this but not 1

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>>376169152
Gee, you tell me.

>>376164168
>>376164229
Annnnnnnnd what do continues act as?


Oh that's right MORE LIVES YOU FUCKING DOLTS!

>>376169306
You literally got me to check in-game just now, Sonic just turns around when you continuously hold down like that and he can't go up the slope, if you let go of down before finishes going down the slope all the way he still fails going up the loop but doesn't turn around.

>>376169816
Continues act as a lesser punishment and a second chance but you start at act one of whatever zone you where on if you run out of continues the punshment is then starting over again completely its all part of the game

>>376169337

Eggmanland is fun, but it's also difficult as shit that doesn't let up. On the first playthrough, that shit is longer than all of fucking Sonic 1.

You can't say Sonic 1 is bullshit while in the same breath ignore shit modern Sonic throws your way.

>>376169450
I actually have 50 hours in it :^)

>>376170063
WHICH ARE STILL IN THE END JUST MORE LIVES YOU FUCKING IDIOT

STUPID
STUPID
STUPID
STUPID
STUPID
I'M SURROUNDED BY STUPID PEOPLE


EVERYONE HERE IS SOOOO STUPID!


TICKS ME OFF IT DOES!
FUCK
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
OF
YOU
STUPID
MOTHER
FUCKIN
INBRED
TRUMP
VOTING
HICKS
DIE
DIE
DIE
JUST
DIE

>>376169306
I had to boot up the game. I went down that slope, held down and not up, and guess what happened? I didn't even make it to the loop, the instant the slope ended I stopped dead in my track ducking instead of my momentum even bringing me to that loop.

The other times he almost gets a quarter way up the loop but then suddenly stops, stands up for a split second, then turns left while all I am doing is holding down letting the ball form build up momentum on a downward slope.

It is serviceable and better than Sonic 4, but it still doesn't control properly.

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>>376163813
ONE GUY

NO CONTINUES

>>376170293
Clearly a lie considering you don't know about the non existent rolling physics ;:^)

>>376170327
No a life starts you at the beginning of an act a continue starts you at the beginning of a zone and if you run out of both you need to then start the game over completely

>>376169046
Why does Sega have such a hard time implementing physics they already perfected in 1991?

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>>376170327
>IT'S NOT ME, IT'S THE GAME

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>>376170327
Stop going into an autistic frenzy. He is right for pointing out that continues and lives start you at certain points. There is a difference in having one more life to start at Act 3 and using a continue to start again when you die at Act 3. There is still a chance in which they expend their lives before even getting to the point they previously got a game over at.

>>376163907
Labyrinth and Scrap Brain are what kept me from ever finishing the game.

>>376170626
>it ain't me starts playing

Fucking pleb. You can finish sonic in one sitting.

>>376170928
You can finish halo 3 in one sitting too doesnt make it less of a shit game

Marble Zone, Labyrinth Zone and Scrap Brain Zone Act 3 are objectively tedious and poorly designed zones. Anyone who isn't blinded by nostalgia or has a raging boner for the classics can see this. It doesn't mean that the rest of the zones/acts aren't fun or that the mechanics aren't great or whatever.

>>376171197
You mean some of the best.

>>376171197
I agree with Marble Zone and Act 3 SBZ purely because it doesn't fit with acts 1 and 2 but I think labyrinth is a nice change of pace and a unique zone that adds to the game

Marble zone is too traditional a level for a sonic game and it just doesn't really work with sonic's gameplay

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>>376171197
Still miles better than Wacky Workbench.

>>376171197
Labyrinth and Scrap Brain are fine (probably I don't remember that one so well but I don't ever remember a clear issue with it), but Marble Zone is a little too focused on standard platforming. It's not a very long level though altogether. Labyrinth still has plenty of ways to use momentum and keep going, the water just adds a different element.

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>>376167206

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>>376166216
>>376168164
>>376169046
>>376169240
>>376171520
>>376171893
Post more cool Sonic webm desu

Sonic the Hedgehog was like Super Hexagon. You practiced on the shit that killed you until you got gud and your reward for gettin' gud was new challenges and levels.

I can beat Sonic 2 in like a half hour. There was a time I couldn't get past Chemical Plant. The fun's in gittun' gud. If you're underage you won't get it.

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>>376172302
Can't do this in 4, Generations, Lost World or Forces.

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What's up with all these sonic threads today?

>>376166316
Not him, but this is true. I can only play Sonic games.

>>376172492
>hold nothing to win, let the game play itself for you

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>>376172302
I have like 100 of these for Mania, it was too hype not to make them.

Learn to not die and you won't have this problem. Literally get good.

>>376172583
Sonic Mania hype along with Adventure fans mad that classicfags are actually getting what they wanted after a couple failed attempts.

>>376172492
This is the kind of shit that ruined sonic from 3 onwards.

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>>376172696
But you're rewarded for interrupting that moment, you could get a Bubble Shield for not doing it. This part also has a similar moment since you can find a Special Stage if you stop going fast.

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>>376163927

>difficulty is a relic

sasuga /v/

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>>376172696
>>376172832

>>376163813
This was just life back then. Many, many games had this. Passwords were a luxury and took many hours to input.

>>376168625
>re simply a pass time a thing to do when you are bored
Yeah a fucking hobby. Perhaps if lowered your fucking standards based on perceived society you'd be happier.

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>>376172721

>>376172829
>from 3
>when 2 was the first one to have set pieces like that
Fuck off, poser.

>>376173098
>dat chuckle

>>376173098
That's adorable

Even the signpost is

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Classic Sonic sucks

>>376173270
Are you the guy who doesn't like hydrocity from the 3&K thread?

>>376169240
That webm only needed to be 3 seconds long. You can just tell the way he lands on the incline that they nailed the physics.

I'm gonna have to try this now and I haven't played a new sonic game since Adventure.

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>>376173389
Yes

>>376173389
Hydrocity is pretty bad though.

>>376171197
Scrap Brain 3 can be finished in moments, what the fuck are you smoking?

>>376173539
>>376173596

Hydrocity is a great level you plebs

probably one of the best water levels in any game ever

>>376172302
Going to be so weird to play a game with the Bubble Shield again and have it's physics actually work correctly. Electric Shield in it?

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>>376173539
>>376173596
Spotted the anons crushed by the wall in act 2

>>376173539
Hydrocity Zone is great though.
>getting crushed by the wall when you can just spindash up each ramp

>>376164808
Sonic Advance is the best 2D sonic

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>>376173759
Yes it is.

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>>376173759
>>376174049
Flame Shield also.

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>>376173759
Everything is in, even bonus stages.

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>>376174132

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>>376174240
>Bonus Stages
And a webm of that shortly being teased.

>>376171197

marble and scrap brain are perfectly fine just not the best zones in the franchise

fuck labyrinth though
I really do hate that entire zone

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>>376173759
>>376174334
It even has the Combi-Ring from Knuckles' Chaotix.

>>376173003
Hobbies are creative you wouldnt call wathcing tv or reading hobbies but you would call writing books or making videos hobbies

>>376174005
Sonic Advance is far too straightforward, simple and easy that it got an over-inflated reputation. Not saying it's bad, it's a solid game but it doesn't do anything unique or challenge anything, especially anything Sonic-y, it's focused far too much on basic platforming and the level paths are too cut off from each other.

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>>376174334
The Flame Shield disappears when touching water like it used to for those who were worried about that.

>>376174481
>you wouldnt call reading hobbies
But you would.

>>376174604
This
Was there ever a hacking scene for the GBA titles?

>>376174626
No you wouldnt its a passtime

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>>376174903
It's a hobby dude.

>>376166052
>i'd rather push forward on the analog stick and have the game do everything for me than having to learn how to play the game at all

Kids these days...

>>376175031
Its not stop trying to make playing games seem morr nobal you are inyl doing it for your own insecurities that YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE

>Never touched a Sonic game
>Only really know of the weird memes
>Loving the Twitter account and enjoying the fuck out of the cartoon
>Actually excited about Mania
How the fuck did they do it? I never once cared about Sonic and now I am actually interested in the newest game coming out.
Forces look like a piece of shit and have no care for it.

>>376174812
Not that I know of, but I really wish there was. Adding Sonic Advance 2's full trick system and acceleration into 3 for all team combinations would make that game so much better I feel. Tricks in Sonic Advance 1 would probably be great too. Fuck it, put 2's tricks in everything I love that game.

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>>376172721
>score: 420

>>376165303

I forget, is Act 2 just the "Labyrinth" area of Scrap Brain?

Cause if you're fast enough you can skip like 2/3rds of that part of the level

>>376175221
>>Never touched a Sonic game
>>Actually excited about Mania
Play Sonic 1-3 & Knuckles then, Mania is going to be more of that but expanded upon.

>>376175391
>I forget, is Act 2 just the "Labyrinth" area of Scrap Brain?
No, that's Act 3, Act 2 is the inside of Scrap Brain with those wheel things you go on & transporters you go through very fast, it also has a lot of buzz saws.

>>376172721
do not bully the orb

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>>376175667

>>376175221
>>376175516
Oh right, I should mention Sonic 2 & 3 are better games to represent the positives of those series of games. I love me Sonic 1 but the level design isn't as good and there's no spindash which a lot like.

>>376175516
>>376175990
I guess I'll try out 2 first. How annoying is it getting the chaos emerald in single player?

>>376175990
>and there's no spindash
Not unless you play the Taxman remake (the definitive version)

>>376176091
Pro tip, play Sonic 2 as Sonic alone, because Tails makes the Special Stages next to impossible.

>>376175990
>I should mention Sonic 2 & 3 are better games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZREH9PYHAY
Cartoon agrees

>>376176091
Sonic 2 can be a bitch in my opinion if you have Tails tagged along, if you're Sonic alone then the Ring requirement is lowered making it easier. Sonic 3 & Knuckles are easier and more fun in my opinion.

>>376176139
True, same goes for the 3DS version and Sonic Jam version. Is there an easy way to play those the Taxman version on a computer? I'm still peeved they never released those remakes on Steam.

Who here replaying all the sonic games they have as they wait for Mania?

>>376176212
I may not be remembering correctly but doesn't Tails only lose his own rings in those stages? Since he runs behind you he collects shit you miss so even if he only gets a single ring he's made it that much easier.

>>376174481
if your writing books or making games it became more than a hobby

>>376176446
Isn't there an Android emulator for PC? Try that I guess.

>>376176702
The required ring total is a lot higher if you're playing as Sonic and Tails together, meaning that Tails losing his rings is a major problem.

>>376163813
You didn't "go back to green hill zone", you fucking lost because you suck and got what you deserved.

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>>376174005
I feel like the screen is too close in the handheld sonic games

>>376176982
I just checked and on the first stage it lowered the ring requirement by 10 on the first checkpoint and didn't scale back any further so you ended with 130 and 140. I wouldn't call that a lot higher, Tails ended up picking up 11 rings for me but I had 180 something total. My Sonic only run I had 174 at the end.

I usually play as Sonic+Tails and I only ever really had issues with the Watermelon colored stage where the rings are scattered about everywhere so there's no clear lines and the best strategy I could come up with as a kid was to do loops. As long as you don't rely on Tails it's not much harder and on most stages he'll even get some rings to help out.

>>376172302
>>376172492
>>376172721
>>376172832
>>376172915
>>376173098
>>376174049
>>376174132
>>376174334
>>376174398
>>376174471
>>376174614
>>376175749
All will be right in the world once this damn game gets released

>>376178241
Admittedly I haven't played Sonic+Tails in 2 for many years, but I can definitely tell you that I have a way fucking easier time in the Special Stages as Sonic alone.

>>376163813
With arcades it was a way to get more quarters, with early console games it was a way to extend the playtime of short games so players felt like they got their money's worth. Call me casual but I'm glad the lives system has fallen out of favor. There are other better ways to do difficulty.

>>376178591
Such as?
Not complaining, just want to know

>>376175990
I honestly like Sonic 1's lack of spin dash. It makes holding onto your momentum more important, so it feels more rewarding when you do. I understand why I'm in the minority there, though.

>>376178591
>There are other better ways to do difficulty.
Name 20.

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INSTANT REPLY THREAD, REPORTING

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>>376176291
>2 is the best in the entire series
>it never worked in 3D
>game companies always ruin their beloved franchises
>they never should have changed the color of his legs
>sonic immediately loses in the water level

This Cartoon is too fucking conscious of itself.

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>>376175176

>>376173165
>>376172829

Yeah, that definitely got introduced in Chemical Plant, and the TV bouncing could be done in Casino Night and Oil Ocean if I'm right.