If aliens invaded Earth what would be the most realistic

Neither.

Neither, we'd get curbstomped, you dumb fuck.

Neither.

>>376120918
Agreed. If a spacefaring species had the ability to reach earth, they would also be capable of utterly decimating us if we were to go to war with them.

its probably more like MIB

XCOM assumes they want our infastructure.
EDF doesn't.

>>376120995
Well, what if another spacefaring species came to Earth to help us out?

this is my fantasy

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Ravagers are just fucking around in EDF

>>376120310
>Implying humans aren't the most civilized and intelligent life form in the universe

>>376120310
We couldn't produce either so neither

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>>376120310
Half-Life 2.

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>>376121096

>>376121096
We're the only ones we know, and we're still not the most intelligent life form.

>>376121063
Mutual sharing of diseases would wipe us all out unless we were extremely careful.

>>376120310
It's already happened. Jews are aliens.
They are advanced enough that they have a moral code which doesn't let them just wipe us out, but they want our resources. So they infiltrate and buy up companies and buy themselves into power. All while exporting all the worthwhile resources of Earth (no, it's not gold or metals. It's water).

Why do you think Netherlands is still not underwater after a hundred years of global warming and the poles melting constantly? Why do you think the sea level is not rising? The alien jews have been stealing our water for generations.

>>376120995
I don't think that HAS to be true. I definitely think if they spebt even two seconds watching us a non-warlike sentient species would nope right the fuck out. "Yo are you seeing this ZAAGXAKAZZAG? There's radiation everywhere... I think these guys have been splitting atoms on each other."

"What the fuck? We're not landing they're all insane."

or

"Holy fuck these guys are good at fighting each other. Imagine what they'd do to us if we landed. Nope, next planet."

>>376121297
This 2bh

>>376120995

>Alien got FTL technology
>Using FTL to throw spacerocks at earth at lightspeed
We'll never knew what hits us...

But I think they kept us alive all these time just to laugh at us when they're feeling down. Like some sort of indigenous africa tribe that worship goats.

>>376121302
Say the other species all wear isolating suits

>>376121302
It's possible they won't even be organic.

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OP is a huge fucking faggot.
It is EDF vs XCOM thread now
Who would win?

>>376121462
Depends whether Commander Beagle takes charge of XCOM or not.

>>376120310
The ayylmao approach would be much more subtle

>>376121462
EDF probably? They definitely out gun XCOM (except maybe endgame XCOM) but if they can't find them they can't blow them up.

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>>376121462

>>376121359
>"Holy fuck these guys are good at fighting each other. Imagine what they'd do to us if we landed. Nope, next planet."
More likely scenario:
Look at how fast they multiply. Look at how much destruction they can do with primitive weapons. Imagine if they learn FTL and come to us. Better hurl an asteroid at them before they get too strong.

>>376121359
Encountering a new civilisation amongst the stars will be such a rarity that they will definitely interact with us, assuming they are out there and know that we exist, and can actually make the voyage. If they are benevolent they will seek to educate us, if they are warlike we will be enslaved. The point is that either way we get fucked by interacting with aliens unless they hold back. Fuck ayys, hope they never arrive.

>>376120310
>most realistic scenario
Fighting beings with interstellar travel tier tech would be impossible for us if they wanted us dead for whatever reason.

>>376121359
Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>376121462
EDF, they can hit things.

>>376121462
x-com would win if they had psi unlocked

>XCOM
>Elite soldiers with top tier gear cant hit a target that is 5 meters away
EDF wins by default.

>>376120995
All we'd have to do is shoot down one of their vehicles or capture any of their weapons and we pretty much won the war

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“A sufficiently intelligent civilisation would have positively no interest in us at all"

WE are brainlets

>>376121462
XCOM has a 90% Chance to win.

>>376121359
>"Yo are you seeing this ZAAGXAKAZZAG? There's radiation everywhere... I think these guys have been splitting atoms on each other."
>"What the fuck? We're not landing they're all insane."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ufh8fctr3o

>>376121598
>if they are warlike we will be enslaved
Nah, we would be recycled into raw materials.

I have more fascination for alien animals than for alien intelligent lifeforms.

>>376121675
It's made of Unobtainium that can only be forged inside the core of a sun.

What now?

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>>376121764
Then we go to the Sun

Intelligent aliens will never seek contact because of bacteria and viruses.

>>376121574
We don't even know if the destruction we cause is big. We have nothing to compare to.

I hate this "humanity fuck yea most destructive beings on space" meme. Maybe there are some weird looking motherfuckers out there that destroy worlds like, every week.

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This is how you fight alien bastards.

>>376121754
It would be fascinating to meet something that is intelligent but not human.

>>376121764
Steal their use the Unobtanium we got from their technology and figure out how they did it

>>376121718
Topkek I guess I didn't think about space-jews. "PREPARE THE FASTER THAN LIGHT ADVERTISEMENT MACHINE."

>>376121754
>it's just a recolored zebra

EDF!

EDF!

>>376121708
underrated

>>376121598
Maybe they knew exactly where we are but earth is a bit too far away that it's not resourcefully viable to either enslaved or exploit.

>>376121675
Pretty sure the aliums would be at our doorstep before we had the time to retroengineer one of their weapons and mass produce them.

>>376121675
You're watching too many bad sci-fi movies anon.
Care to explain how cavemen would be able to do anything with guns / planes / nukes if they got their hands on them?
Ability to reverse engineer and replicate something implies somewhat similar tech level.
Whoever comes from the stars to invade Earth would be magnitudes above.

>>376121852
>dolphin
>octopus
>certain dog species
>crows and ravens

>>376121392

This, they can travel space, they by default have the upper hand as they can just bombard us with whatever and we have nowhere to go.

>>376120310
It would be like Independence Day, only an extraterrestrial threat would unite the world.

>>376121678
I actually believe the last one except for the chakras spiritualism thing. I think there's a higher "plane" (for lack of a better word) of existence that we need to use technology to reach. To advanced aliens it looks like we're babies playing in the mud.

>>376121675
Kek, you'd be like an african tribe somewhere in the middle of a savanna getting their hands on a microprocessor by some miracle and trying to figure out what the hell it is. You won't have tools to even begin to comprehend this kind of technology

>>376121650
>>376121359

The more likely outcome is simply; what fucking colossal retard apes and they simply annihilate us from orbit because we have a unique world that we're ruining.

>>376120310
EEEEDDDDFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!
Been playing throught 4.1 and its one of the best gems ive found

>>376121740
Honestly it depends on their society. We could be:

>repurposed as gene stock
>enslaved and implanted with technology to keep us docile
>food
>forced to fight in their wars
>destroyed because all they want is our natural resources
>uplifted but forced to adopt their politics

Every option is shit. We aren't ready, and I hope if there is a greater intergalactic community we enter it on our own terms.

>>376121846
Yes and likewise we have no other sentient tool-making species to compare to but chimps. Compared to them we're pretty fucking destructive. And of course I'm harping on our limitless curiosity. Ayyyylmaos might be more cautious than we are with technology, or at the very least significant less willing to use it to kill shit. Hard to say.

>>376121876
What if the stripes are inverted?

>implying the first craft to arrive wouldnt be a sustainable vessel with a very small crew

What's bigger, the chance of ayylmao's being able to fly around in a feasible craft we ""could"" make today or them having technology that defies all physics today?

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>>376120995
all we gotta do is sneeze and we'll wipe out their entire fleet with our super germs

>376122053
>forced to fight in their wars
I don't know, that sounds neat. What if you can ever earn a chance to join their side proper if you are a good soldier?

>>376121096
There's actually a possibility of this being true.

Complex ecosystems require a variety of elements and advanced technology (including spaceflight) require some very heavy elements that are far along the periodic table. Not to mention an iron core creating a magnetic field is a huge advantage in developing life.
These elements are made in stars through fusion so basically the younger the galaxy, the fewer heavy elements ergo the harder life is and the harder technology is. The older the galaxy the more likely life is.
Our solar system and sun turn out to have quite an abundance of heavy elements and despite life on Earth being quite old and despite us existing, we're statistically unlikely.

This is all based upon scientists looking at the chemical compositions of neighbouring stars and then making estimates, so of course if the estimates are off then the conclusions are way off.

Another thing is that Earth is pretty close to being as large a planet can be before you start finding it impossible to achieve escape velocity using chemical rocket engines. Our planet is in a narrow band of habitability where it's massive and thus retains it's atmosphere very well, but not so massive that we'll need super duper magic technology to get into space.

>>376121995
Its a potential one but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Its just like concepts like god.

The untouchable doesn't factor on our world. If someone had faint readings or research that displayed something potentially like that though it would be fascinating but as is..

>>376121359
>Holy fuck these guys are good at fighting each other. Imagine what they'd do to us if we landed. Nope, next planet.
lol

>>376122053

>and I hope if there is a greater intergalactic community

there isnt you fucking dork

>>376121392
Why would they even bother with us, if not getting our planet for resources or whatever?

>>376121359
A non-warring species would probably never advance to the point they could ever accomplish anything, much less get off the planet. No competition means no progress. Even ants go to war.

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>>376122056
I hope they are.
I also hope they look like this and I manage to snatch a cute space elf gf. The Emperor be damned.

>>376121972
This anon is correct.

Air superiority wins wars. If you have no spacefaring vessels you have lost a war against a spacefaring civilisation.

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>>376121883
>>376122050
why did you join EDF?

>>376121678
The truth is that faster than light travel is a universal impossibility and all advanced species begin to reproduce slower, live within their means, develop digital existence and their solar system has far more resources than they will ever need. It is also a prison.

Also they all stop communicating with radio waves very quickly.

We will never meet them and we are unlikely to ever detect them.

>>376122179
>what is the scientific method

>>376122261
she'll probably enslave and milk you for semen samples.
horrible

>>376122316
FOR MY WIFE

>>376122225
Perhaps the only thing they've been forced to compete against is their homeworld and the reaches of space.

You got to remember that literally anything is possible when discussing this, and if we were to encounter a spacefaring race there's no telling what they will be like psychologically and physiologically.

>People think there are beings in space that are technologically advanced than us
We can hardly send people to the moon, what makes you faggots think aliens are better?

>>376121392
>Using FTL to throw spacerocks at earth at lightspeed

Little space pebbles would be enough. They'd gain infinite mass at lightspeed.

>>376122121
Being a thrall species is genuinely the best option for humanity.

If by comparison we are indeed warlike, it'd honestly be the best place for us considering it would fit well. Humans are surprisingly good at adaptation, for all we know we're the best equivalent to self aware cockroaches and would be perfect for starting colonization/invading planets.

Alternatively, if we're just less advanced but on the same track as the invading species, we could learn from them in a position of care and the guarantee that we were relatively safe from everything else, until we're ready to ascend to their level.

Thrall is the way to go.

>>376122316
I wanted a big, juicy steak!

>>376122404
What makes you think they can't?

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>>376122261
I'd totally ditch humanity to fuck some ayylmaos

>>376122086
They'll anticipate that and send robots instead.

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>>376122379
As long as she sometimes pets me and treats me nicely, I'll be okay.

Aliens don't exist, dummy

>>376122458
Vassalage under a space empire might be alright so long as we don't get seriously memed in terms of rights and are mostly left to our own devices.

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>>376122503
Then how you're gonna explain this!

>>376122568
Giant insects
Those are not aliens, I've seen them here on Earth

>>376122431
>they gain infinite mass
u wot mate?

>>376122404
We only had modern computers for like 50 years. Electricity for a hundred or so.

If they are only a thousand years ahead of us, they might already know FTL travel.

>>376122404
Look how much progress did we make in last 200 years.
Assuming we don't nuke ourselves and continue at a good pace we'll get to the stars some day.
Aliens might be at it eons longer because life on their planet evolved much earlier.

>>376122615
infinite velocity = infinite mass

I know it's unlikely, but how would a hyper advance race of ayys react if they lost a war with Earth?

>>376122404
Aliens probably spend less time bickering about shit.
What if their space program didnt stagnate after some achievement like us

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>>376122612
>Giant insects
THIS CANNOT BE

>>376122697
>infinite velocity = infinite mass
To get infinite velocity you must have no mass, idiot

Neither, though all out war like EDF is closer. The difference is we'd never stand a chance, they don't have to be very advanced, just being advanced enough to have spaceships means they can knock out all our satellites while having massive intel capabilities everywhere on the planet. Then they'd just proceed to orbitally bombard anything they don't like.

Even without orbital bombardments, and disregarding technological difference, fighting an enemy that has full satellite coverage and we have none won't end well at all.

>>376122316
Let's talk about it tomorrow

>>376122316
TO BECOME A CITIZEN

>>376122537
Your average human and the whims and desires on a small scale would probably mean nothing to an alien species.

You as a person would probably be left alone mostly, they would take a supervisory role to politics but really if they're that advanced I have a hard time seeing them care about what humans do so long as you do your job.

If we are the bogeymen of space however, they'd probably want to uplift is specifically as a military force and I can't see any real bad from that. Most societies treat their armed forces fairly well and they're given a lot of respect. If we transformed into a full war economy on behalf of some aliens we'd probably do great.

>>376122709
Nuke us from a couple of light-years away and laugh or just shrug their shoulders and move on until we git gud at space travel and they HAVE to deal with us.

>>376122709
>how would a hyper advance race of ayys react if they lost a war with Earth?
Post Epic Fail of Galactic Proportions macros on their SpaceBook hyperweb.

>>376121049
This

>>376122709
They'd present us with their daughters to breed with.

>>376122709
Post their version of Wojack on Ayychan and say it's not fair

>>376122757
All they would have to do is side with a minor power and let us all kill each other.

>>376122779
This is all pretty subjective. We have no way of knowing what aliens are like.

>>376121074
This. They are using Earth as a research facility to test new weapons.

>>376122709
It would become the greatest meme in the universe. Even larger than Trump winning.

>>376122748
WHAT DID YOU SAY?!
THATS IMPOSSIBLE!

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>>376122748
>pillbugs and giant frogs DRAGONS
EDF5 is shaping up to be the best EDF yet

Guess it's time to play EDF.

>>376121049
And both assume that WE don't want our infrastructure

>>376122805
They probably meme about their government every day; losing a war with some alien for them will be a lolzy joke.

>>376122757
If they don't have magical deflector shields we can just send up nukes with rockets.

You don't need satellites to spot a big spaceship.

>>376122751
i don't know the math, but i'm pretty sure that if someone threw a pebble at earth at FTL speed the momentum would demolish earth

>>376121851
>actually driving close the the giant alien with a gun
That's not how this works. You evacuate the area, then you fill said area with enough bullets to drown them.

Can I play EDF on PC?

I want to be a cute soldier girl that gets molested by ants.

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>>376122856
No shit
What did you hope to add by saying that

>>376122952
its not that hard to create a frictionless zone, especially if you only want to create it in a vacuum.

>>376122316
Wait one of the bikes had guns? Never knew that.

>>376122952
>hey blagzorp the earth people just sent a rocket up to us
>oh it has a payload?
>intercept it please

>>376122953
Anything that's traveling at light speed cannot have a mass by definition.
So it would do nothing.

Now, if they accelerated a pebble to 0.9999999999999999... lightspeed, I would be very worried.

>>376122493
alien waifus are underrated

>>376122880
When is it out?

>>376121961
>Care to explain how cavemen would be able to do anything with guns / planes / nukes if they got their hands on them?
It worked out in Battlefield Earth.

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WHAT ARE THESE?

>>376122880
>giant frog DRAGONs

Alright, it was weird enough that they somehow turned ants into dragons, but now they're just fucking with us.

>>376122953
it would destroy the universe

any object with a mass > 0 has infinite energy

there is a finite amount of energy in the universe therefore to push an object faster than light it would require all energy in the universe

basic pseudoscience and you look like an idiot for not knowing this

>>376122697
Back to school with you.

>>376123159
French aviation forces

>>376123159
I see many vore threads

>>376122953
>Infinite velocity
>yeah it'd just destroy earth lol
Defying the fundamental laws of the Universe would probably destroy it.

>>376120310
>ctrl+F "Half-life 2"
>1 result
ok

>>376120310
The most realistic scenario would be scorched earth.

Humanity would fall back to as remote places on earth, like Siberia or Australia and just start nuking any areas with Alien presence.

>>376123192
>now they're just fucking with us.
I thing you are onto something here.

>>376123159
A NEW BREED OF FLYING INSECTS!
DRAGONS!!

>>376123117
>>376123194
>>376123205
>>376123224
theoretical physicists are the reddit of science

>>376123049
EDF 4.1 is on Steam
It's newer and better in every way! Sign up now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEOEAGMxNlI

>>376123158
So you're going to hope for attacking aliens to build badly protected bases conveniently equipped with a technology allowing humans to reach their level with the press of a button?
I don't think any race that retarded would achieve space faring capabilities.

>>376121302
More likely that their biology would be so extremely foreign that their viruses and bacteria wouldn't know what to do and vice versa for our own.

Hell they might not even have viruses.

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>>376123129
I think the best bit would be the differences between one another
how we do things that are alien to them, and they do things alien to us

struggling and overcoming these differences would build a great relationship

and the idea that they'd all be hot, that helps too

>>376123296
True, but suggesting that FTL travel is possible within the current model is the reddit of opinions.

>>376123314
Is this game fun or even playable in single player?
I'm too poor to buy it.

Fuck I can't wait for edf 5 to come out.
Still not sure if I should drop money on 4.1 for PC since I beat it on console already

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>All these people wanting to fuck aliens.

>Invaded

They'd probably infiltrate instead of invade. But either way we'd be massacred akin to what happened to the Native Americans until we let them take whatever they came for. Probably the ocean.

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>>376121462
Does xcom have beagleluck? Very important question.

>>376123314
>50 smackaroos

It's also espensive.
Fuck that.

If they really wanted to kill us they'd just drop a virus with 100% fatality on earth from orbit good luck cocksuckers.

>>376123367
Humans, the very same species that could reach the moon and invented the nuclear bomb, also came up with memes

>>376121392
>We'll never knew what hits us...
We'd see that their rocks are too fast for eyes

>>376123405
True on both counts, but assuming they're biological and contact is prolonged enough things could quickly grow out of control. An advanced society which did what we are on our way to doing with antibiotics for example might have such resilient and adaptive diseases that we'll die out within a few weeks.

>>376123536
and that's why PC ports are mistake
you faggots are never happy with anything, too jew to pay more then 5$ for a game
fuck steam, it killed all good there was about pc gaming

>>376123514
why wouldn't they just go to europa if they wanted water?

>>376123285
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, EVERYONE KNOWS GIANT INSECTS CAN'T FLY!

>>376123117
if it has energy, it has mass

m=E/c^2

>>376122952
They'd simply shoot them down, or hit the silos before they even launch. Moving ships would be very hard to hit unless they are in low orbit, and nukes really don't do terribly much against armoured targets unless it's a close hit. Once a silo has fired a nuke, its position is obvious and won't be firing any more unless they are fired very quickly before it can get hit. Our whole nuclear war doctrine relies on +-30 minutes of flight time before a hit, enemies in orbit could hit in under a minute, meaning we'd never even get the vast majority of our arsenal out of the silos. Even subs wouldn't have the time to move after firing to avoid counter fire.

There is a 97% chance that they wouldn't even be in the visible color spectrum, making them completely invisible.
There is a high chance that they are already on Earth. Hell, there is a very high chance that there are multiple alien civilizations active on Earth right now, possibly as many as a hundred, we just can't see each other.

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>>376123476
Hey fuck you man.
What do you offer? A horrible death at the hands of aliens. A horrible death at the hands of Space Marines. A horrible death at the hands of our own commanding officers. A horrible death at the hands of Inquisitors and space nuns that are obsessed with burning and that don't even put out most of the time.

Fuck you.

>>376123159
[increasingly loud REEEEEEEEEEE]

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Can love bloom on the battlefield?

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Holy terras massive fuck defenses would turn whatever xeno scum approached into literal ash and if they somehow made it past they would have to deal with these guys

>>376123727
Give the daemonette, but only if she has a crab claw.

>>376123631
>50 fucking dollars
>lol ur 2 cheep

Fuck you asshole.
No videogame should cost more than 28 bucks.

>>376123676
Trying to sound smart and you messed up the one equation that everyone even in elementary school knows. It's e=mc^2.
You should be glad now that this board is anonymous.

>>376121859
>but we can't do thing
>then just do it mang

>>376123194
Are you fucking retarded? E = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2, does that equal infinite energy, you dumb fuck?

>>376121063
Arrival

>>376122952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJv2dCJ2xk

>>376123676
>if it has energy, it has mass
Then explain light

>>376123810
ince kind of how human civilization has worked since the very beginning

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Why can't we just make peace with them? MUST we be the rednecks of space?

>>376123727
NO!

It is a horrible death in service of the emperor. A death purer than a horrible death being pecked apart in the chaos and heresy.

>>376120310
>>376120995
If/when aliens find humanity we're all dead.

It's the only logical conclusion.

>>376120310
There are mutiple tiers of civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale


a Tier 1 civilization is where we are
At tier 2 we are building a dyson ball around the sun

It is technically possible for us to go to war with a tier two civilization but it'd depend on who's defense

if its us they simply wouldn't have the resources to send such a large army to our planet and it'd be closer to UFO defense where a single base HQ on Mars operating against the entire earth

At Tier 3 civilization, this no longer applies as they have GALAXY wide power systems and could send fleets beyond our imagine

The reason why we can't(and presumbly everyone can't) have FTL because it breaks the laws of thermodynamics
Even with einstien's work you'd have to seriously stretch, If we discovered that we are not in a closed system that means we can create matter and entropy isn't as big as it is now

That said, IF we are in an open system that would completely change how our science works, Fundamentally change every we know from basic physics to biology,etc

Aliens(including us) would have to develop either two methods for long term space travel
Immortality or some wormhole fuckery
First is obvious, If you can live to be 150,000 years old a 20 year space trip is nothing
Second if it takes you hundreds of years to resupply an army you will probably lose, cutting out this by 80% would GREATLY increase the speeds of your army

>>376123873
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html

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The aliens are humanities friend and governing our world for global peace and prosperity far better then the national governments of old.

Wanting to betray their trust to start a unwinnable war with vastly superior beings because muh freedumbs is absolutely primitive

No need to be afraid.
God would protect us and smite the aliens.

>>376123931
Pure bullshit, all of it.

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>>376123897
And what has the Emperor ever given me?
What did he do to warrant my everlasting loyalty and my life?

>>376123931
einstein was a kike and relativity is what the jews push on humanity to keep us chained to their globalist monetary scheme and out of the stars

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>>376123727
Just pretend to be a commissar and dick them all.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=heretical%20love

For The Emperor.

>>376123931
>enough resources to build a fucking Dyson sphere
>not enough resources to build a few spaceships

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>>376123886
>he think we can make peace with this

>>376123613
Biological contact time and adaption won't change a lot if they have an extra chromosomal strand in their DNA or anything along those lines.

>>376123791
Move to slavland lol.

>>376123138
some time in september

>>376121524
I'm still mad Beagle hasn't tried EDF yet

>>376123463
Yeah, it can be completed solo, though it's much easier as the Ranger class than the other ones. The Air Raider especially suffers without co-op buddies to back you up, but the other two are more or less fine and it's still a lot of fun exploding waves of bugs and giant robots as a regular soldier. If it's too expensive just wait for a sale, it's gone on 30-40% before.

>>376124004
>And what has the Emperor ever given me?
A civilization that isn't decadent or powerless. To even consider any alternative better, is ignorance and heresy.
>What did he do to warrant my everlasting loyalty and my life?
He took you, when you were the purest you ever were, when you weren't tainted in heresy, he took you under his wing and protection. And how did you spend your days, looking out for more than your own fair share, and lusting for corrupt meaning. Your heresy is not that you want to fuck the xenos, your heresy is not maintaining the purity of your being, and walking out of the emperor's light. The only redemption for you is lifelong servitude and a purifying horrible death.

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FTL travel is completely impossible, we'll never get out of our solar system and a few nearby ones. On top of that, we're either alone, or any alien life is so far away that we'll never be able to pick out any signal from them from the background noise, and even if we did, it would be tens of thousands of years old.

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>>376123791
that was PC game and that was 20 bucks
also that's a shit statement, and lucas arts is dead

>>376121359
The thing is that any reasonable space ship will most likely be able to simply rape us from orbit, even without having any special weapon systems. They could just drop some trash can out of the airlock on their approach before they start decelerating and have it crash into earth at like 20% the speed of light.

Annihilating us will be easy for them. The bigger question is whether they want at least some of us and our stuff intact.

>>376123901
Any species that seems callous or careless with their biological resources probably wiped themselves out or destroyed their world with pollution around the same technology level we're at. Fuck WE'RE probably going to wipe ourselves out with our fuck ups.

I'd put my money on aliens we come in contact with being huge fucking hippies

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>>376120310
depends on the alien

>>376124292
>that was 20 bucks
inflation

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>>376124116
They might have the resources, but exactly to do what?

Without warpfuckery and FTL everyone is slow as shit resources or not
You'd have to build something that can completely negate the process that it takes hundreds of years of travel, or they'd have to go All in

>>376124019
Your retarded


>>376123998
>Its all bullshit
>thermodynamics
>bullshit

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>>376124386

>>376123989

Unironically ADVENT life would be better for humanity than the current state solely because they cured almost all diseases.

>>376124289
Glad the rest of mankind doesn't think like you/ We'd have no electricity and the Americas would have never been colonized.

>>376123678
metal gear

>>376123931
>because it breaks the laws of thermodynamics
Laws exist to be broken, and i mean that in a completely unedgy way.

Our current understanding of physics and laws of the universe are so primitive that they're always going to be rewritten.

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>>376124472
>processing humans into a jelly
>rebuilding them as bodies for the aliens
>Guranteed extermination of mankind

Great job

>>376124019
Formulate a theory of gravity that explains the precession of Mercury then, I'll wait.

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>>376124462
wow I agree relativity is truth and einstein was a GENIUS and all his physical applications of science weren't just notes stolen entirely from his lab in Germany prior to coming to Jewmerica

The more important question is:

Who would win? EDF or XCOM, with both being at their highest potential strength?

The obvious answer is the EDF, in my opinion. Rolling rangers simply cannot be stopped.

>>376124418
you got me there
lucas arts are still dead tho, and as far I know they never followed that rule anyway

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>>376124597
>wow newton was right so the theory of relativity coined by einstein is truth

>>376124519
>>376124574
Spacefags are the most delusional. You'll never get off this rock, and if you do, you'll only have an absurdly uncomfortable experience. You think you're going out into space and it will be like Space Engine, but space is incredibly boring, and things that aren't are too dangerous to get a close look at.

You'll be sitting in a cramped ship getting massive cabin fever, all you will get to see will be pitch black void with some bright dots here and there. Space isn't like in the movies or your videogames.

>>376124581
>Do you want immortality, immunity to all disease and to evolve past the material plane
>NOH FUG U ALIEN U AINT WHITE

https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation

>>376124462
Not be trolling or anything, but you seem like a genuinely stupid person. Anyone with a basic education will know why the "Tiers of civilization" is just a bad sci-fi idea, not rooted in actual science.

>>376120995
Well we can reach Mars, does not mean we could conquer it if it was inhabited by, say a medieval level society.

>>376124648
In EDF they'd be unstoppable because they can sprint now They basically make every other class useless
>Have just as much mobility as Wing Divers
>can casuse just as much destruction as Air Raiders and can even call vehicles now
>Don't need Air Raiders to shoo their missiles

>>376121063
read the Damned trilogy from Dean Alan Foster, it's basically that

>>376124745
I have no idea what you're trying to say

Take the stick out your ass and state your point of view plainly

>>376124574
>Laws are meant to be broken
Spoken like someone who has no fucking idea what they are talking about


EVERY we see from rock formations to black holes in the most distant galaxy all features the same handful of laws

That is the law of thermodynamics

Second, I specificly pointed out

>If we do not live in a closed system that means entrophy isn't as big of a deal and it'd completely change our view on science

I.E there is no heat death of the universe, and we can CREATE matter out of our ass

Currently we know we live in a closed system, with finte energy and we need something to make a reaction with something

I legitmately don't think you grasp how huge it'd be if we found out this is true, Things like infinte energy would be possible and put us at civilization ranking of 4 where we can produce mutiverse tier energy at the comfort of our own home

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>>376124648
How can XCOM even compete?

>>376124748
wow thank you for stating the obvious

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>>376124581
We won't be exterminated as long as we are useful. Given our combat abilities that's a pretty safe bet.

So what if they take a few people to be used for new bodies, it's probably a fraction of the lives currently lost to disease and war.

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>>376124881
And all it cost was an arm and a leg (or two)

>>376124857
>we can produce mutiverse tier energy at the comfort of our own home
How quickly would be blow up the entire universe?
In seconds?

>>376124635
>hurr durr stolen research

Disprove it nigga, if its so easy

Stolen or not the point still remains

Can you prove space-time to be wrong?

Are you saying light travels at different rates based on how fast you are going?

Do black holes do not exist?

>>376124841
>>376125065
>muh relativity is truth!!!!
>space is boring goy what do you mean it's not like video games lol it's too hard

>>376124958
If they wanted some species for combat purposes, they'd probably just clone some raptors from Earth.

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>>376121063

>>376123972
All it says that photon is massless at rest and acquires mass and energy via velocity. In order to achieve the speed of light, you need to be massless to begin with, which is impossible anyway.

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>>376124808
>because they can sprint now

Tell me you are joking please. The most needed QoL after armor farming

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>>376123989
*blocks your path*

>>376125034
At that point I'm not sure how a human can even comprehend the level of power we are talking about

Assuming we don't cause a collapse we'd literally be the big evil aliens

Imagine if a machine the size of an apartment complex could produce 500% of the universe
No alien sans another species figuring it out could ever hope to fight us

>>376124748
Its progression there will be a period where space travel is just shit but its a necessary step the way to FTL travel and meeting aliums.

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>this kills the FPS

>>376121302
Yeah, better wear gloves when petting your cat. And I hope you have a hazmat suit for when you go to the zoo.

Does the Japanese version of EDF 2025/4,1 still have that chant at the end of the credits?

Am I missing a lot if I pirate EDF 4.1?

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>>376125102
>getting so angry that a jewish person made something that you can't understand
>responding to tone rather what Relativty is

I understand science isn't your forte /pol/ but please go through /sci/ before you leave your containment board

>>376125167
I am not the guy who you were replying to, you just said explain light, and I had that link open.

>>376123159
FLIGHT OF THE VALKYREES

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>>376125174
Block this

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>>376124748
Already halfway there senpai

>>376125102
its an uncontestable fact that if the jews say it, the truth is the exact opposite

jews were created to literally make life hell on earth for godfearing christians

>>376125173
https://youtu.be/Mu9w3ZIMaJI?t=6m6s

>>376124748
You sound like a very boring person. By your magnitude the "New World" could be described as the same old shit with the same old trees, weather and lakes as the "Old World" during the era of traveling and discovery.

>>376123631

The PS4 version is $20. There is no good reason for the PC version to cost two and a half times as much.

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>>376120310
Most realistic scenario incoming
>space faring aliens find earth
>space is nearly limitless, so there isn't much need to conquer a planet with living beings to get any resources
>this means any reasons for war are social or political or a perceived threat to themselves, until a space faring society gets so large that it has to expand into other society's territory for more resources (This should take a long time for any space faring species, due to Space's massive size and the massive amount of resources. You've long since hit the AI singularity at this point).

In this case, the tech would be so far ahead of our own that if they wanted the minerals from earth, after cleaning the rest of our solar system out, they'd just drop rods from god on us. If they wanted water, they could probably still find a way to bombard us from orbit.

Either way, we don't have anti-orbital bombardment weaponry, and we can't even keep track of the entirety of our sky.

>>376122225

But you could also argue that a species with violent tendencies is far more likely to destroy itself long before it's able to develop interstellar travel. Any species with FTL technology must have learned how to live with themselves long before that.

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>>376125468
>>376125102
>/pol/ samefagging because he doesn't understand what the big kids are talking about

>>376125241
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are looking for (You)s and aren't actually retarded.

>>376124857
I meant our understanding of these things is meant to be broken. That's what our laws are based off, not what they actually are.

We relatively have no idea how black holes work because a) we can only look at them from afar. And we're still learning new things about them after watching different things fall into/close to them.

>>376120310
guns and conventional warfare are obsolete even by today standarts we play and fuck with poor countries but any nuclear power is completely inmune to conventional war.

No one would ever run soldiers and tanks on the usa or rusia because the nuclear response would destroy the attacking country.

So if an alien civilisation is able to harness powers way above the nuclear ones we have for interstellar travel why in the fuck would they shoot at us with conventional guns how can people be so stupid as to not understand that it would be either complete destruction if they just want to destroy us or bad negotiations because they hold all the cards.

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>>376125104
We can use weapons and tactics depending on the situation and are clever and have psionic potential all in the one package

Not bad compared to most of the dumb meathead monsters and weak as shit psychic ayys they field

>>376120995
You really need to stop using the word decimate

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>>376125232
>tfw you call in your first artillery strike

>>376125551
>space is nearly limitless, so there isn't much need to conquer a planet

Space is limitless but planets capable of housing life are extremely rare as far as we know. But you're not wrong. They'd have to be pretty monstrous to purge an entire race just to live on their rock and frankly an FTL civilization would have evolved passed the need for war

>tfw scientists have an easier time moving all of space than they do making us go faster than light

>>376124748
No fucking way. Sailing across the atlantic was no fucking picnic either.
Yours and societys shortsightedness will be the death of us all.

>>376121392
Buenos Aires was a inside job

>>376122316
TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACK

>>376125523
PS4 version was released earlier, it was sold at full price, now it's getting cheaper to find cause everyone who wanted it already bought it. Not to mention that it was technically just and update to 4.0, so it was cheaper so won't many people be butthurt
PC version was released later. and it only was 4.1 And it had 50% off discount recently. your fault you missed it
wait for sale as any reasonable person instead of whining like retard

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>>376125642
Diver > snek

>>376125619
No, Laws are not to be broken
Theories are

Laws explain how things operate while theories are why

We can change the why but never have we EVER changed a law because it has been broken

If you were to break a law of physics we'd go from apes on a planet to interdimensional gods in a proverbial blink of an eye

There are no shortcuts or free lunches, Aliens have to play by the same rules as we do

If our laws of physics are broken we'd quickly catch up to any species out there as we'd be able to make things that rival universes in terms of power(Which at that point make invading aliens moot)

Black holes are not a law of physics problem but relativity problem
They operate with light in very strange ways, deal with matter in strange ways and spit out all kinds of weird shit

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Realistically, how hard would it be for humanity to reverse-engineer an alien FTL system, provided we have the means to duplicate said system?

>>376125746
We could just share. Wouldn't that be nice?

>Tfw alien race has been united as a single cultural identity they lost the idea of borders
>They just start building shit and sending folks to live on earth, minding their own business as the world governments lose their shit

I would laugh.

>>376125216
>>Imagine if a machine the size of an apartment complex could produce 500% of the universe

It would turn into a black hole.

>>376125953
Wait are there armor types now?

>>376125619
Mind you
One law is

>objects in motion tend to stay in motion
if we get rid of that, then applying force does not do anything under any circmstance

>>376126064
Given that it'd break out understand of physics, it would probably be borderline impossible.

>>376126064
if we see an alien operate it we would be able to reverse engineer it in a day.

>>376126089
>World governments lose their shit

You kidding me? Western world leaders would jump at the idea to create an alien sanctuary for them to live in and create a trade of information. Its mostly the American south that would flip their shit

>>376125318
Yeah, multiplayer really is where it's at and it uses Steamworks.

>>376123681
Why is there such a high chance they would be invisible?
And if they were on earth already how come we never bump into each other.

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GIEF SPACE TECHS PLZ OR I REPORT U TO SPACE U.N HUAHUEHUAHUEHUAHUE

>>376125929

That's exactly what I'm fucking doing you ass. The PC version may be more recent but it still would have required a fraction of the work compared to making the initial PS4 release. Ports like Bayonetta and Dragons Dogma released at reasonable prices so its not some unreasonable expectation.

>>376121063

congrats you uncovered the plot of gantz

>>376120995
That's what happend anyway in EDF.

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I wonder how society would develop in presence of another species they could produce sterile offspring with (like horse and donkey mating with eachother results in a mule).

>>376126064
Not very simple.
Sure, we'd make it work, but to understand it?

Several breakthroughs in mathematics and physics should be made. Which would promptly fuck up chemistry, biology, geology, medicine, and every single science's shit up.

Basically the knowledge that a FTL system exists would mean that we have to rework our entire conception of the universe.

>>376126064
How hard?
Pretty god damn hard

Though attempting so would change what we know of physics, even if we can't get it to work


>>376126206
If you watched me repair a nuclear reactor after a few hours do you think you could do so afterwards?

I doubt it

>>376126264
No District 9 please.

>>376123463
Really fun

>>376125746
Planets capable of housing life in the way we know of are very rare. But then we get back to the scale of just our galaxy. Even a really rare thing like Earth will still have many similar planets. And with tech so far out, isolated planetary colonies or terraforming is a distinct possibility. Which increases real estate. Then you've also got space colonies.

And yes, they'd have to be /pol/ tier levels of monsters to justify killing off an entire species just to get one more planet.

Space has so many resources that there isn't even a reason, politically, to continue the current systems we have. We'd be dealing with post scarcity political systems, which are a whole different ball game.

If I can use current political systems to describe what I think would happen to human kind (nevermind another species) in space, I'd say we'd end up with fully automated luxury communism, or socialism with private property and a damn fine welfare system. Or something functionally close to a system like that.

My point being, that I see no reason why capitalism will continue in space. Capitalism depends on resource scarcity to drive market prices, and without scarcity, markets are just fiction.

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>>376126161
No, just pink kamed joined EDF!

>>376126408
>If you watched me repair a nuclear reactor after a few hours do you think you could do so afterwards?

>I doubt it

the hardest part is finding out how it works when you have absoultely no clue. If you understand the ignition and what it does you can stretch your understanding of science to figure out the rest.

>>376126310
>Why is there such a high chance they would be invisible?
Very little range of light is visible by humans.
Even without aliens, most of Earth is invisible for us. There are probably entire continents in the ocean that we don't even know about.

>>376126374
Although that was less about helping out and more about fucking over the giant guys out of spite.

>>376126293
;_;

can you gift me 50 bucks anon pls

it was my birthday 3 days ago

>>376126385

The sterile offspring become the biggest contributors to culture. Not being able to pass on their genes makes them more inclined to focus on creative endeavors that will outlive them.

>>376126385
would it be any different than your kid being gay?

you'd probably have a bunch of nay sayers then someone would advocate for their rights and then thats it.

>>376126538
Please tell me you are trolling.

>>376120310
Realistically a possible alien race would rather we generate value for them in ways they cannot or by tackling problems they would deem suited for humans, rather than adapting individuals to the planet and rebuilding lost infrastucture.

i.e. play Stellaris. Xenophiles cooexist with aliens to use their unique traits to full effect and xenophobes enslave them, no one besides retarded purifiers actually glass planets. And they get cucked out of most planets because they cant colonize them with other species.

>>376126360
waiting for sale != bitching about full price amount
also
>comparing 6 month old game port to 5-6~ years old games ports
you are special, aren't you?

>>376126064
Did you ever play STALKER?
In the book it was based off, Roadside Picnic, Aliens visited the earth instead of a psychic disturbance creating the zone.
The Aliens kinda just had a roadside picnic and left, littering their inconsequential trash.
But all that trash completely changed human society. Even though we can't understand it.

Unlimited energy batteries were one of the things Aliens left around. Just that would break our society.

>>376123681
>There is a 97% chance that they wouldn't even be in the visible color spectrum, making them completely invisible.

If their color was beyond our ability to observe they'd just appear black or white.

>>376126625
>he doesn't know about the invisible islands in the ocean

read up on it, it's fucking crazy

>>376124519
>implying the world wouldn't be better off for it

>>376126658
Would unlimited energy batteries bring world peace to humans, or would it completely destroy our economy?

>>376126518
Kinda

Though remember >repairing

There can be a million things to go wrong
Even if you learned how to fix it from an alien if it breaks again you might be shit out of luck

the main focus is that you find out HOW it works and what it does

Once you know how it works you can then start to experiment on how to fix it or build another one

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>>376126631
>We get uplifted by pacifist xenophiles
>They are squishy weaklings
>Use humans as battle thralls but keep us in chemical bliss
>They are surrounded by fanatical purifiers.

Wew lad

>>376126803
Well solar would be not only viable but extremely powerful

It'd change everything for the better, assuming battries are easy to get

>>376126494
Viable space travel in general is going to turn humanity upside down.

>>376123681
Don't be stupid, there's no way we could be here right now.

>>376126826
what game

>>376124581
The concept that they somehow needed humans specifically to do this is completely retarded.
It's the same as "the aliens came to earth to get our water"

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>>376120310

>>376126884
A world war would probably be started to get those batteries. No pussyfooting this time.

Or to destroy them, considering that the energy industry is one of the biggest ones on the planet.

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>>376126983
Stellaris

>>376126826
cold weather is nice
I was born in Siberia

>>376127021
imagine going to the rain forest to find rare plants or animals for new medicines and shit.

probably the same concept.

>>376127097
Is Stellaris fun now?

I remember back then that the military game was completely fucked up and there came a point where you simply could not expand anymore because le epik federations fucking you over and the fact that the AI seems to get ships out of their fucking ass

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>>376125104
>aliens would rather have dead lizards than a planet's current apex predator

>>376127097
>xcom reference
neat, didn't happened to me yet
also fuck spiritual fallen empires and xenophiles
>my race gonna extinct
>you are doing terrible things
shut up, we are robots now

>>376127123
I think if they have the technology to create entire bodies from biomatter it wouldn't be hard for them to produce it without having to harvest half of earth's human population.

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>>376127238
It recently had an expansion release called Utopia with some overhauls but if you didn't like vanilla Stellaris you probably won't like modern Stellaris.

>>376127263
Imagine dead lizards that have the smarts and tech of humans

they'd destroy us

>>376127318
Maybe we could make a deal with them.
Give the aliens our dead for biomatter in return for technology.

>>376127263
How could you tactically apply a Crocodile in a warzone though? They'd be all right for ambushes I guess.

why do people assume that aliens will always be colonialist warmongers? i mean, we're still pretty barbaric but we've advanced socially enough that most people can agree that invading countries for no reason is wrong and that world peace is someting to strive for, we create things like the geneva convention to make sure wars are fought fairly and prisoners are treated humanely, how do we know aliens aren't so advanced that they are above violence now and don't need to conquer for resources because they've got all that shit figured out already?

>>376126803
Depends on who gets them. If someone shares it with the entire world and shows everyone how to manufacture them, then the technology is available for all.
If someone puts a stranglehold on it, then that person will use it to leverage their power.

Either way, it would trivialize energy. Nuclear, solar, oil, coal, wind. All of it would probably shut down as we move to this miracle system that somehow ignores entropy. (Or degrades on such a slow scale that it doesn't matter to us.)
If it could be made portable, then our consumer goods would never need to be replaced due to battery failures.

So our economy would really get messed up with this discovery. But it probably would change stuff for the better.
>>376126894
Definitely. We'd probably become a lot more peaceful to each other. Realizing that it's us, a small blue dot, travelling through endless black seas dotted by tiny islands.

>>376127340
Vanilla Stellaris was just too gay for me

>conquer planet
>exterminate race
>everyone in the galaxy hates me

why the fuck do they even care?
also maintaining a galactic navy was impossible

>>376127021
>The concept that they somehow needed humans specifically to do this is completely retarded.

They're infected with a magical plague. It's not really supposed to make sense from a hard sci-fi perspective.

>>376121359
No, if an alien species could travel the distance of space in any reasonable manner of time, they would be so advanced that they would consider us fucking monkeys. If they have any hostile intent it wouldn't be a conflict, they'd cut the planet in half, take out all the valuable resources and water and leave.

>>376123797
He wrote the same thing as you m8, just with mass isolated instead of energy.

>>376127442
Because in order to entertain the situation of an earth invasion, we'd have to shoehorn them to be evil imperialist scumbags. Because there is no logical reason to invade a planet for real estate.

>>376120995
even as a kid I realised that the "humanity fuck year!" shit is retarded. we'd get curbstomped so fucking hard.

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>>376127352
>stubby arms and no opposable thumbs

Intelligence aside, humanity is still one of, if not the most versatile species on Earth by design.

>>376127461
>why the fuck do they even care?
Probably because thats incredibly fucked up thing to do and they're probably afraid they'd be next?

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>>376127461
Thats still in place. There is a system now that gives you a -300 from everyone in the universe if you commit genocide. But also some government types that are intended for that kind of playstyle and come with buffs for it.

Utopia's major addition was a Civ style perk tree so you can unlock changes for the empire. Stronger fleets, better colonization, science focus. ETC.

They also added a box for you to not purge pops but instead displace them from their home world and make them cosmic refugees. Which gives you a much less severe penalty

>>376127021
If you played the first one, and UFO defense line of games it works like this

>life on earth has been made by etherals
>They are starting to die, and their previous harvests haven't yielded something they can use
>Humans have the gift and can actually mind control some etherals
>physically strong
>Decide to invade and plunder so they can process this into themselves

It's plan untold eons in the making

>>376127681
>Utopia's major addition was a Civ style perk tree so you can unlock changes for the empire. Stronger fleets, better colonization, science focus. ETC.
just adding that most of that was added in just patch
I think only ascensions are missing

>>376122053
>>376122364
With such a vast space and all dem planets, I'm sure there is life on other planets, but the apparent lack of ship-traffic's sightings with all dem telescopes makes me think that they either have no means for space travel either, or NASA hasn't been telling us about them for fuck knows how many years.

It might well be both.

>>376122316
IT HAPPENED BEFORE I KNEW IT

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>>376121392
They won't have FTL, If they did, then that means they would arrive here without knowing that we existed before they left. Because if our radios can reach them to tell them we exist, we would be able to see their radios too. Doubly so for us because they'd have been broadcasting for far longer than we have.

So what would happen is this FTL ship would arrive in the solar system and the aliens would be like, "where the fuck did this civilisation come from? It wasn't there when we looked at this planet from 100 light years away." and then they'd be like, "Um, hi. This is a bit awkward, but we thought this planet was uninhabited." and basically either be peaceful or piss off because they didn't bring their genocide cannons with them for a simple colonisation mission.

>>376126538
>There are probably entire continents in the ocean that we don't even know about.
Am I being rused here? I mean I know humans can't see many colors but wtf is this invisible land shit

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>>376127572
all those copypastas are shit
they're all
>be some gay alien
>get a human bro
>somehow get involved in a firefight situation
>cower for my life like the inferior lifeform i am
>human bro takes 40 lasers to the nutsack, 833 0.9FTL gunshots to the eye, gets acid thrown onto him and several blackholes shot at him
>he shrugs it all off and kills everything with his beautiful human thumbs
>he says it's all in a days work

>>376127627
why?
are you afraid africans will come after you once they stop murdering each other?
are you afraid americans will come after you once they stop murdering muslims?