>he uses shields in ARPG's >he doesn't just

>Souls fags have been playing a shit games for 6 years
what did op mean by this?

>>376113597

Personally, I really enjoy games with perfect block/shield parry mechanics.

Sadly most games treat shields as purely defensive objects.

>>376114594
I enjoy shield bashing.

>playing MMO
>ambushed by guy several levels higher than me
>shield bash him onto his back
>flee and survive

>>376113597
>Avoiding hits is more manly than tanking them

>>376116791
Being aggressive is more manly than acting like a damage sponge

>>376113597
Is that image from Perfect Half?

>>376117908
Neither are aggressive, they're both defensive actions

>>376118114
Tower of God
Manhwa, it's good, I recommend it

>>376118319
>dodge an attack
>counter right away and pull on the aggressive attack

>shield
>just stay and tank until he slips up

Kek tell me what sounds more aggressive

>>376113597
I use a shield to block when dodging fails.

>>376113597
>ToG on /v/
I thought nobody here had taste

>>376120925
Oh, we definitely exist

>>376120367
You could parry or shield bash

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>not dual-wielding shields

>>376120367
Why is Dodge allowed a counter but blocking not a parry?

>>376121325
You don't even need a shield to parry though

And a shield bash is gonna do less damage than you would from a dodge and counter

>>376120367
Except most games blocking is about staying in the fight and spending less time on avoidance

>>376121442
Because i can parry with a sword...

>>376121546
It's easier to counter attack though if you parry with a shield Intead of your weapon

>>376121558
Blocking consumes more time though and drains stamina

>>376121629
Then why Dodge at all

>>376121741
Is this a game where dodging makes you invulnerable?

>>376113597
Damn dude, an anime character said something, this proves shields are useless. Good post, bro

>>376121752
To get in to a blind stop and hit their weakspot

>>376121546
>Shield bash does less than dodge-counter
Not necessarily

Having a shield also has pros like blocking unavoidable attacks or usage in small/narrow spaces

>>376122095
Spot*

>>376122305
Also you can usually attack quicker after blocking than the time it takes to finish a Dodge a animation reposition, then attack

>>376122305
Name a single game where you could actually kill someone from a single shield bash. That shit is not doing more damage if i was to dodge an attack and then hit or backstab them.

Yeah that depends if your stamina isn't dead from all that blocking

>>376122852
>Dodge roll behind enemy
>They snap to you
>Shield bash
>Enemy is stunned and get one or more free hits on them

>>376122852
You don't shield bash to kill.
You could bash to stun them, then attack.
You can disarm people.
You could break a fucks nose.
You could knock people down.
You can also bash before getting hit.

>Have fun bashing after all that blocking
Then have fun attacking after all that rolling? Just use basic stamina management nigga

>>376122852
>Name a single game where you could actually kill someone from a single shield bash
why? That's not the point of shields at all. It's not even the point of shield bashing. Do you not know what the point of shield bashing is? I've give you a hint, it's not damage.

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>he doesn't use fists
>he doesn't punch enemy attacks to counter them

>>376123315
Hush, child, adults are talking.

>>376122852
Name a game you could kill someone with just a single dodge roll

>>376122852
>Name a single game where you could actually kill someone from a single shield bash
PoE

>>376123142
>You don't shield bash to kill.
>You could bash to stun them, then attack.
>You can disarm people.
>You could break a fucks nose.
>You could knock people down.
>You can also bash before getting hit.

All that and that would take longer than to simply dodge and then counter, literally a waste of time and stamina. There's no way you're telling me tanking then shield bashing and then attacking is quicker than what i suggested and less draining. If you're shield is big enough to actually shield bash no way you're gonna be able to do that quicker than dodging without a shield on you

>>376123083
That's not how it works, if an enemy tried to lay a heavy ass attack on you an you managed to dodge that effectively it would take them longer to react unless you're slow as shit

>>376123375
*punches ur reply*
Just submit, no one can counter Monk. Items are a crutch.

>>376123315
>player character is more powerful than all the worlds greatest champions and can challenge gods
>deals 1 damage with fists

>not just hitting things so hard they don't even get a chance to attack

Fucking casuals.

>>376123519
So you are saying you should only dodge heavy attacks and block the rest?

>>376123519
>There's no way you're telling me tanking then shield bashing and then attacking is quicker than what i suggested and less draining. If you're shield is big enough to actually shield bash no way you're gonna be able to do that quicker than dodging without a shield on you
Well, I mean, it's not really relevant, but that's how it is in real life. Waving a shield around is pretty easy.

>>376122852
Didn't dark souls have an entire build around full Havel two handing shield and shield bashing everyone to death?

>>376123519
If anything, jumping or rolling around for a chance to hit would be slower and more tiring than a shield bash.
>You need a big, heavy shield to bash
Nah, it works fine with any shield.

>>376114291
>6 years
Dark souls is 10 years old

>>376124856
Holy crap I feel old, I remembering starting the series in highschool

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>shield bash can't be parried
>can pressure opponent when they think they could just parry and win the match

>>376113597
>playing games that have iframes on dodge
Baby tier ARPGs

>>376125320
I kinda liked how in for Honor you could counter shield bash

>>376125320
>bait you in to shield bashing
>you end up wasting all your stamina

too ez

>>376125475
This, though I am fine with dodges breaking lock on

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>>376125606
>lock on

>>376125580
The only way to bait a shield bash is to have a shield as well

>>376125580
>losing stamina on attack
Soulsbabbies lol

>>376125751
I'm referring to missiles

>>376124856
It's not possible.

>Not dual wielding shields

What are some games where you can actual cut through someone's shield and break it?

>>376125957
Mount & Blade

I am glad Tower of God is getting good. FINALLY. AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS.

>>376125957
Most survival games like ark and Conan

>>376122095
*dodges behind you*
heh... shieldfags

>>376123315

I liked the way some FFs handled that. Not equipping a weapon as a monk raised str

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>Doesnt punch people to death

>>376126967
Fuck dude. Where is this even discussed? /a/ has its own gookBarneyfag that appears whenever threads are made and /co/ never has shit.

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>not crushing opponents by your mere presence

Step up

>>376126967
yuri best girl

>>376127165
Wish i knew m8, tog would make some great threads, especially with the lastest chaps.

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>>376113597
>MFW I'm that cunt who always counters and kills
>MFW I'm the same in martial arts
Perfect blocking is the true patrician way of playing.

>>376122852
>Shield bash typically does damage
>Rolling typically does not
Gee I wonder which one could kill someone

>>376128302
I love how Rachel is getting enemyzoned.

>>376128613
Back stab is gonna kill someone more than a wiffy bash

>>376128936
Why do you get to dodge and backstab? Why can't I shield bash him onto the ground and smash his face in, with the shield?

>>376113597
DUDE
DODGE ROLLS

>>376127535
>not manipulating events so your enemies are never born in the first place

comon

>>376113597

>2017
>still buying shitty arpg games