>sega puts realistic humans in Sonic '06 >everyone

Sonic 06 was furry propaganda that's why

>>376052330
>comparing Odyssey to 06 and not Adventure
Easiest way to spot underage

1) the "human world" is just one world mario can visit in this game, instead of like Sonic where they coexist oddly
2) they're just part of the environment instead of awkward npcs you have to get quests from

>>376052330
Because in Sonic 06, the entire setting was "realistic," so the normally proportioned humans were there all the time. Mario Odyssey is clearly just using a "normal" urban setting for this one hub level. It's also done intentionally because of how weird it looks; Sonic's weirdness was done seriously, which makes it harder to swallow.

>>376052330
I've seen a lot of criticism on the people in SMO and a lot of comments that they should be stylized.

>>376052330
>>everyone is ok with this
im not

>>376052537
but anon, telling the truth isn't propaganda

>>376052873
>blue hedgehogs want to fuck underage girls
That's a truth nobody wants to deal with.

>>376052330
Sonic 06 was fucking garbage and the character design for the animal characters was hideous. Odyssey will probably not be garbage and the character design for Mario is nice.

I still prefer Unleashed's humans, but the issue with 06 wasn't the humans themselves but the game as a whole being a complete disaster in every aspect besides the music and pre-rendered cutscenes.

>>376052330
Because it's ok when Nintendo does it.

>>376052782

Basically this.

>>376052782
This.
No one wants to exercise any sort of critical thinking.

They don't even look that realistic. It's a little jarring, but that's the point. It's not like comparing nipples Eggman to Sonic in '06.

>>376052330
You call that realistic?

>everyone keeps comparing Odyssey to Mario is Missing
>instead of Mario's Time Machine, where you actually play as Mario and meet real human beans
y'all are plebs

>>376052330
jesus christ mario is a MANLET


Seriously thoit's a throwback to original Donkey Kong. Betting my left nut we're gonna replay it in 3d

>>376052782
>>376053137
>>376053157
So you are saying its weird when someone else does it but ok when Nintendo does

>>376052330
Because Mario games tend to be good, while Sonic games tend to be horrible trash.

>>376053425
Nah, you autistic shitpiece

>>376052330
it's ok when Nintendo does it.

>>376053425
You may have reading comprehension problems.

>>376053425
Sonic is just garbage. Mario probably won't be

>>376053425
No hes saying its weird when someone does it wrong and that nintendo happened to do it right. Stop being a contrarian.

File: 1491302491863.jpg (59KB, 374x510px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 374x510px

>>376052330

>>376052330
>06
>Sonic Adventure
Dr. Eggman is a 'realistic' human that's been in the franchise since its inception, but if you mean NPCs aside from him, the Dreamcast titles had that.

>>376052330
>Implying humans in sonic 06 was the biggest reason the game was so bad.
Because it's just one level, not the entire game.
Besides, Sonic 06 was just terrible in general, humans or no humans, the game was shit.

File: 3D Mario defined.png (1MB, 1278x719px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1278x719px

>Adventurefags and CourseClear3Dfags still railing on based Odyssey
pathetic

what's your beef on the glorious return of Sandbox 3D Mario?

>>376052330
You mean Sonic Adventure you fucking underage, Jesus Christ.

>>376053751
>eggman
>realistic

He used to look like a fucking walrus, c'mon

File: IMG_0757.png (229KB, 752x856px) Image search: [Google]

229KB, 752x856px

>Mario Odyssey
>discriminates against african americans
>Sonic '06
>healthily promotes a female Utopia

Maybe it's ok because Nintendo doesn't crumble to feminism like Sega does?

>>376053425
hurr durr i'm retarded duuuuuurrrrf

>>376053842
It's exclusive to a platform I have no other reason to purchase.

>>376053842
No Rosalina

HEY THERE PAISANO IT'S THE SUPER MARIO BROTHERS SUPER SHOW

File: C9407K1VYAAs-R1.jpg (50KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 900x900px

>>376053751
>this
>realistic human

the humans all look similar, because it's not really NY. it's obviously going to be another dimension, and won't strive to have all the peculiarities of RL.

>>376053842
There isn't a single bad game in this image t b h

>>376053628
>didnt play it yet
>they did it right

So how you know? You got to play the alpha?

>>376053751
Eggman was cartoonish, and the humans of Unleashed were designed that he'd fit in with them. Adventure had anime-style humans. 06 had what would've been realistic looking humans if the graphics for the game weren't vomit.

>>376053879
Anon...

File: Eggman06.png (3MB, 1920x2879px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x2879px

>>376054219
They also redid eggman's design for 06 to make him fit in with more realistic humans. Whether that actually worked or not is another matter.

File: 02.png (737KB, 762x512px) Image search: [Google]

737KB, 762x512px

>>376052780
>>376052782
why is everyone forgetting humans were in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 and there was bitching then for that as well?

File: maxresdefault.jpg (134KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

134KB, 1280x720px

>>376054428

Having realistic humans wasn't at all one of Sonic 06s problems.

>>376054428
It definitely did not. In fact Eggman's 06 design by itself highlights how retarded 06's art direction was.

>>376054489
Because in the Adventure games the humans were anime-style and the only people who bitched were retards.

>>376052330
>sega puts realistic humans in Sonic '06
>I only pay attention to the haters
>nintendo puts realistic humans in Mario Odysey
>I only pay attention to the fans

Yeah, weird...

>>376053842
Id say Galaxy was more sand box and galaxy 2 was course clear.

>>376054489
There wasn't

>>376054763
Most of the bitching at the time was mostly the shift from the then - known canon of Robotnik and Mobius to the "new" Eggman and Sonic's World

Sorta like Dobson, but on a larger scale and they actually got over it after a while.

>>376054578
>>376054763
there was a lot of bitching back in 99 over that shit. I mean consider the fanbase and it makes sense but they were huge bitches.

File: NintendoSwitch_SuperMarioOdyssey_Presentation2017_scrn05_bmp_jpgcopy.jpg (188KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 1280x720px

>Sonic 06 takes place entirely within a realistic human world filled with realistic-looking humans that clash horribly with the cartoony Sonic characters

>just one world in Mario Odyssey is a realistic human world with realistic-looking humans, ensuring that the clashing visuals will be more of a fun novelty rather than a terrible design choice since you'll only be seeing them for a small part of the overall length of the game

It's pretty simple. If all of Mario Odyssey took place within New Donk City then yeah, it'd be the same problem. But obviously there are worlds like the food world and pic related.

>>376053945
>being a poorfag
man if only i still had a pic of Link, 2B, and Potter-kun laughing it out, it'd be the right time to use it

>>376055058
>there was a lot of bitching back in 99 over that shit.
No, there really wasn't. You weren't there. The fandom at the time was more than used to humans, both on the American side and the Japanese side, both because Eggman/Robotnik existed and because licensed material (which was far more popular then than it is now) used humans.

The problem was that some of the humans looked fucking stupid, like President Clownshoes in SA2 and Shadow, but that's a different issue from the simple existence of humans.

>>376052330
That's not why everyone hates Sonic 06 though, that was just a random insult because every game gets random insults. If the gameplay is as broken and loading times are as bad as Sonic 06, this will flop too.

>>376052330
Something I find funny is that 06's human models look far better than this

File: file.png (1MB, 1316x981px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1316x981px

>>376055660
nah, only Sonic Man was the only decent looking one

File: Mario humans.png (768KB, 749x858px) Image search: [Google]

768KB, 749x858px

>>376052330
They should be a stylized, though not necessarily as stylized as Mario. ""Realistic"" city world doesn't actually need people to look like they're from L.A. Noire, just design a few generic "normal" humans in Mario's style that are dressed and acting like normal people.

>>376055660
I refuse to believe someone can actually believe this bullshit without trolling.

>>376055959
Why?

File: maxresdefault.jpg (105KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1280x720px

>>376052330
I thought this was just meant to be one of the many levels in the game? the whole idea of the game is that mario travels across a lot of worlds, and one of them happens to be a realistic new york city, that's why it's called odyssey

pic related, it's another different level

Mario Odyssey's city level is supposed to look super realistic and jarring compared to Mario. That's the gimmick. Normies love the concept of Mario Stuck in GTA.

i wonder if people forget Odyssey is about Mario adventuring extraordinary places like in the Odyssey or the Super Mario Land spinoff

File: 1458648391593.jpg (39KB, 480x428px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 480x428px

>>376053292
This post.
>Be me
>Playing Mario's Time Machine (1993)
>Notice that mario is not a real human
2017: hurr durr what happened to mariu da fuck with his design!!!1

File: mario.jpg (185KB, 1276x714px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 1276x714px

>>376052330
>somebody puts mario in ue4
>most people complain that these realistic environments don't fit super mario games
>nintendo pulls the same shit
>nobody cares
I don't get it.

>>376052330
nintendo cant do anything wrong.

>>376056290
Because it looks bad.

File: 1493755002422.jpg (86KB, 640x704px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 640x704px

>>376052330
It's only for one single world in a game with various exotics scenery you retard.

>>376055959
If the humans were cartoony it would just be a normal city in the Mushroom Kingdom like Diamond City. It doesn't really fit the "Mario in strange places he's never been before" theme.

>>376056763
because it looks like straight garbage when fans do it, have you seen the videos of OoT remade in UE4? It looks fucking terrible, just has a lot of smooth textures and bright lighting and shit

File: 1493066695251.jpg (193KB, 750x750px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 750x750px

>>376052330
Because Sonic has been a fucking joke since the Genesis died. meanwhile Mario games are all great and continue to innovate and change gaming.

>>376056982
>remade in UE4
Is just some randoms having fun, not proffesionals of vidya design, even shit on Unreal looks great. The problem is the big companies not hearing the fan base

>>376056814
Why do you think it looks bad?

File: 1463060873275.jpg (81KB, 597x597px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 597x597px

Ive always hated that shit in Sonic since Adventure. Mario games have actual art styles, Sonic throws shit at the wall until something sticks so its not AS jarring when they do something fucking stupid. The only consistent Sonic art style media that has existed is the Archie comics.

>>376055339
>You weren't there.
perhaps anon was but due to the more limited internet and lack of major social networks it effected how you saw things? Because I'm 33 and Sonic Adventure had a serious polarity in popularity both in my local area and forums of the time. It wasn't Zelda WW bitch mode but it was up there for how Adventure was seen as to far a departure and the modern human setting turn off fans at least on the UK side of the pond.

>>376058485
>UK side of the pond
I think that's the biggest factor, because your comic had Robotnik as the only real human with everyone else being an animal or some weird alien thing. In the US and Japan the idea that humans and furries co-existed in the same setting was well established in licensed material.

>>376052782
And Sonic was a fucking trash game but Mario games are generally still good.

File: download (1).jpg (70KB, 1000x563px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 1000x563px

>>376057573
Yeah, this really looks great Anon.

>>376058485
29 and east coast US here and the at least the PA area thought SA was fucking stupid. I felt like I was in the minority because I like it but most here dislike the Sonic "in the real world" and how the camera worked.

>>376052782
This. Mario Odyssey is intentionally trying to make the level look weird, along with the food level. Sonic 06's design was done in a serious setting.

>>376057573
>Hear the fanbase
Rethink your live anon

>everyone is OK with this
No they're not

People shat on the trailer for that reason

>>376058864
>In the US and Japan the idea that humans and furries co-existed in the same setting was well established in licensed material.
That's assuming you read that shit. My ten year old self thought sonic adventures was fucking stupid because it was sonic in Tokyo and it just destroyed all the magic of the world because with such limited exposure I assumed humans were rare and/or living off world because ever zone was either natural landscapes or robot factories.

Nintendo can do literally no wrong.

>>376057573
>The problem is the big companies not hearing the fan base
Why would Nintendo listen to retards, 10 year old kids, and manchildren? Every game would be OOT: Remastered if that were the case.

I swear, I'm gonna be so fucking pissed if this game releases, people shit on it for having one city level, and we go back to getting yearly bland New Super Mario Bros releases.

>>376053425
i laughed cause it is true

>>376059542
>ever zone was either natural landscapes or robot factories.
Yeah, let's ignore that there are zones with massive metropolitan cities, either as part of the zone or in the background, in literally every game.

>>376052330
>New Donk City
What did he mean by this?

>>376052330
>>everyone is ok with this
What kind of alternative reality are you living in, shitposter OP?

>>376059856
donkey kong

File: 7eea0e1a78d4295c7584432199f746ee.jpg (22KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 480x360px

>>376058485
Until SA most media in the US painted humans as some far off future tech world, as well as being rare as fuck. Even in the old cartoon it's stated that Robotinic ruled the planet and implied humans were rare. Now in Japan it was what you painted and it wouldn't be till SA that the west got a shake up of the idea Sonic and company are just living in our world. Out here in OR it was mock/teased but most seem ok with it. Then again, Sega as a band was fucking huge here in the 90s.

File: SonicPictureQuiz-1.png (1MB, 1023x696px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1023x696px

>>376059783
I can only think of the casino zones being like that and they were odd balls to being with. And again it's robots and animals everywhere. Nothing in the core games implied anything but Eggman was human until Sonic Adventure

>>376055113
>Icy desert
>Upside down 6 faced pyramids
Mario Odyssey is literally about a clashing aesthetic world, isn't it.

>>376052330
Because in Mario Odyssey, Mario being out of place is the point. These are different worlds from the Mushroom Kingdom so they do not coexist. With Sonic, they were trying to make us believe they did somehow coexist in the same reality as a cartoon hedgehog and his cartoon friends. Besides, that wasn't even the biggest problem people had with Sonic 06. Most people found it weird but didn't really care. The plot, game, setting, characters, voice acting, and writing were all so bad that it just made that weird situation worse.

>>376060261
>"th-those don't count!"
I was going to say that 10 year old you was braindead but it seems like 28 year old you is braindead too.

>>376060378
Yes. The city is literally made to be jarring.

File: 45621162567247.jpg (77KB, 1544x800px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 1544x800px

>>376060519
I didn't say they didn't count. I'm just sharing the bigger narrative that cites don't equal full of humans. Like >>376060041 the media didn't paint modern society with furries running around in the west.

File: 3475437.jpg (10KB, 320x180px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 320x180px

>>376060519
>th-those

At best you're just OP trying to keep your thread alive
I'm out, good luck getting (You)s now.

>>376060768
Which is more likely, that there are massive human-looking cities with only one human, or that there are massive human-looking cities in a world where humans and furry animals exist together?

If your answer is the first one then get yourself checked into the nearest mental health institute.

>>376052537
Sonic didn't become furry propaganda until way later

>>376052330
>sonic has shitty games
>mario has good games

Gee ...

>>376054489
It's cartoony enough not to matter

>>376052330


I thought mario was human from brooklyn who got trapped into a weird world but he looks nothing like them....

File: Gun_Fever_Too_Still_Hot.png (2MB, 1440x811px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1440x811px

>Mario is unrealistic

No, that is just what Italians look like

File: sonic 06 confirmed.jpg (417KB, 2542x1426px) Image search: [Google]

417KB, 2542x1426px

>>376052330

>>376060041
>Until SA most media in the US painted humans as some far off future tech world, as well as being rare as fuck. Even in the old cartoon it's stated that Robotinic ruled the planet and implied humans were rare.
This was only true in SatAM, which was later retconned in the comics, and Underground, which was garbage. AoStH had humans all the time, just as cartoonish as Robotnik. SatAM was more a case of not really exploring it because it wasn't plot-relevant, and it was never implied that humans were rare or from some future world. The comics had humans for years before Adventure was a thing, and in turn retconned/extrapolated SatAM's backstory.

File: STC8-Kintobor.jpg (41KB, 370x350px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 370x350px

>>376059783
>>376061072
In the original comic they were on the planet Mobius and Robotnik was an alien that was visiting. Robotnik had a lab accident went crazy and conquered the planet, erecting cities and gathering human minions from far off planet. If you followed the original media like you are bullshiting you both know this and understand why some fans back in the day were confused come SA the planet was both modern earth and filled with humans.

>implying the only reason people hated Sonic 06 was the realistic humans and setting

>>376061604
And that was only in the UK continuity, which I mentioned.

File: Don't dare.png (305KB, 352x274px) Image search: [Google]

305KB, 352x274px

>>376061072
>Let's drag conjuncture into this argument because I'm losing
shit man just bow out gracefully.

>>376061604
Holy shit I forgot how nuts the old Sega comics runs were.

>>376061903
It was in the west too. Archie comics were also on Planet Mobius till about 2000.

Human NPCs were in Sonic Adventure 1 though.

>>376062039
The Archie comics didn't change settings until the reboot in 2013

>>376052330
Because it is ok when Nintendo does it.

File: 1486955400623.png (37KB, 131x125px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 131x125px

>>376061604
>Eggman says hello in a funny way
>Sanic responds like an autistic sperg
Like pottery

>>376062039
>>376062241

And even then, it's still implied that the planet is Mobius. They just can't outright say it.

>>376056945
No, and Diamond City isn't in the Mushroom Kingdom.

>>376063137
The post-reboot continuity is the same as the games with added bells and whistles.

The pre-reboot continuity is literally real world Earth in a post-apocalyptic future.

The Brit comics had Mobius be an alien planet and the real-world Earth was in another dimension.

File: 1453210622178.jpg (64KB, 680x680px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 680x680px

>>376061903
>And that was only in the UK continuity

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Mobius_(disambiguation)

>>376063737
see >>376063725
Stop being a dipshit talking about shit you know nothing about.

>>376063725
>The pre-reboot continuity is literally real world Earth in a post-apocalyptic future.
It wasn't but this is getting hairy ways away from the core point that the idiot in this thread that claimed Sonic media was set in a modern earth setting when it never was in the west until Adventure series happen and even in Adventures 2 Sonic calls the planet Earth.

>>376063916
>Stop being a dipshit talking about shit you know nothing about.
see
>>376063948

>>376063948
Nobody said that it was set in a modern Earth setting, I said that even in western non-game media the setting had both animals and humans more often than not.

>It wasn't
It literally was, how fucking stupid do you have to be to talk about shit you obviously didn't read, oh wait I'm on /v/.

File: 1395362494122.jpg (85KB, 214x206px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 214x206px

>>376063948

>It wasn't

It was the big "twist" for #124-5.

>>376064205
>how fucking stupid do you have to be to talk about shit you obviously didn't read
That's how I'm feeling towards you honestly.

>>376052330
Because i can actually make out that the person is a person and not a blurry cluster of pixels

>>376052330
The former of those games was rushed out the door before ANY polish and playtesting + had a cringe-inducing story. The realistic humans were just a sour cherry on top.

Also the city in Odyssey is supposed to be a separate "universe" alien to Mario just like the other levels, hence the agreeably-uncanny comparison.

>>376064354
That was in 2003 which we stated was when things were going through heavy recons thanks to the SA series.
>>376064205
>shit you obviously didn't read
kinda like you with this thread?

>>376054489
Those were simplistic, borderline-animu humans in a dated-graphics game.

'06 went full Final Fantasy with their appearance.

>>376064725
The existence of humans other than Robotnik and Snively was still established prior to Adventure, which was the point.

>>376052330
The problem is that Sonic is not human, so there is nothing to suggest humans in his world don't look normal, especially since Mobius is future Earth. Mario is a human, so it makes no sense why other humans don't look cartoony like him.

oh god, is this /sthg/ or /co/?

forgot this was also a typical Sonic thread here

>>376054541
how was it not?

>>376065292

exhibit A: the rest of the damn game

>>376052330
Did you miss everyone ALSO making fun at the extreme difference in design between Mario and the realistic man?

>>376054541
Yes it was one of them.

>>376052330
It bothered the fuck out of me too

>>376053425
Retarded fucking faggot.

File: luigi's chinese cowboy impression is so offensive that mario's stomach ulcer practically explodes and he is unable to ask luigi to stop being so fucking racist..jpg (112KB, 487x376px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 487x376px

>>376052330
How did this fly with the art director? What was going through his head when he approved this?

>>376065015
Then you missed what started the thread chain because the point was people were ajared by the modern human setting in Sonic A and 06. This turn into a mess of goal post moving such as the retard>>37606372 bring up post 2000 sources as an argument that was about pre 2000 media

>>376056945
>A normal concrete and steel city with normal people in 50's business attire walking around would be indistinguishable from the fantasy setting of the Mushroom Kingdom or the weirdness/insanity of Diamond City if there was a somewhat consistent art style
ok

>>376053879
>Mario Odyssey
>discriminates against african americans
Stop pretending to like Nintendo and fuck off back to /pol/ where you belong.

>>376065551
>anon misses the point
>again

>>376065579
Fact: the Genesis-era games (including add-ons) all featured one or more zones depicting large modern human-like cities.

Fact: pre-Adventure media in both the US and Japan depicted settings that had both humans and animal people.

Fact: Only retards thought it was jarring.

>>376052780

I can't wait to visit Mexican Stereotype world and all the other wonderful places Nintendo plans to take us on Mario's Racist Odyssey.

>>376052780
1) Mario is human
2) So?

>>376054489
They were somewhat stylized. Adventure 2 made them more realistic and it looked terrible. 06 was even worse.

>>376053842

Man I'm curious about this game but you drank the koolaid hard as fuck huh

You're even using their buzzwords

>>376066407
honestly, i'm happy Nintendo finally stepped in and explained what is 3D Mario

now they know which to demand they should cater to unlike their blind asses since the Wii.

>>376065551
Given every other world is equally alien to Mario, I'm pretty sure that's the point of the humans' non-cartoonish appearance. Hence "Odyssey" in the title.

Hell, all Sanic games both before and after '06 (as well as the Archie comics) at least made humans as cartoonish as Eggman. It's just '06 and its FFX-tier cutscenes that stands out as the "what the hell" episode.

>>376056945
But a big city in the Mushroom Kingdom is a strange place we've never been in with Mario in a 3d game. It's always castles, plains, mountains, hills, etc. Super Mario Sunshine and the Paper Mario games are the only times we get a taste of how people actually live alongside each other in the Mario games.

I would like this a lot more than "Mario travels to realistic human dimension"

Maybe because Mario isn't going to make out with one of them in a melodramatic shit show.

Wait, did Sonic actually kissed teenage girls? Never played 06 in my life.

>>376067470
Not technically. She kissed him to magic him back to life with the Chaos Emeralds after he died.

>tfw someone is going go make porn of cartoony Peach cucking Mario in a gangbang with realistically drawn bulky black guys

>>376052330
Because Sonic is furry bait.

Also, Sonic sucks

File: maxresdefault.jpg (88KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 1280x720px

>somebody thought that pic related was perfectly fine

File: fions.png (364KB, 452x419px) Image search: [Google]

364KB, 452x419px

>>376052330
simply cause the gameplay was shit duh

>>376067470
A rejected final fantasy princess design trapped in the darkest depths of the uncanny valley fell in love with Sonic and kissed him after he died to save her and revived him.

File: golf.png (104KB, 295x310px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 295x310px

>>376055959
I need to play Mario golf again.

>>376067825
Literally gmod videos

>>376052330
Despite not being human, Italians live in a human world.