>that game mechanic that ruins the whole experience

Elsa Jean

>>376047707
weapon degradation
>Dead Island
>Dying Light

>>376047707
>Ammo
>Stamina Bar
>Regenerating Health
>Health Bar
>Slow Movement
>destructible environments
>good graphic
>having a story
All are bad, please strip them away from all games in the future thanks

>>376047707
Random crits.

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>>376047707

>elsa jean
>not listening to henry kissinger

>>376048072
So what you want excalty?

>>376048182
>8 Bit cell shaded running simulator

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I don't think anything fits this category better than the runey system in rune factory frontier. I love the shit out of that game but the runey system really brings the whole thing down

Romance.

>>376047707
Who is this qt?

>>376048182
he wants a call of duty with quake movement where everyone dies in 1 shot so he can snipe newbies all day

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>>376047707
Fetch quests

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>>376047707
Turn-based combat.

>>376048354
That would actually make a fun game if you think about it

>>376047707
Save game.

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>>376047707
Red shells in Mario Kart. Especially in combination with coins.

>>376048347
Elsa "Stepdaughter" Jean

>>376048026
nah DL did it well

>>376048354
Ratz Instagib?

>>376048416
no, the meta would be completely strict and the biggest factor in survival would be how much you can break the movement system to dodge everything
which means that the meta will always be cheesy

>>376047707
black characters

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How do we make crafting fun, bros?

>>376048563
>cheesy
so, ratz instagib

>>376048674
You can't.

If you make it fun, you break it.

tapping x to run faster in gta

>>376048746
made me think about Warframe pvp, wots ratz

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The story.

>>376047707
> Recore
> fantastic running, jumping and shooting gameplay
> every single mechanic related to leveling your bots is shit
> the only time I did it was before "final" boss fight
> I had to hold fuse button for ~5 minutes just to level up a single stat of single bot
> fact that you have to go to base/point to change your current bot is shit as well

Button mashing.
Crafting.
Grinding of any sort.

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>>376047707
Tranquilizers

>>376047707
Weapons that break in in a few hits.

>>376048415
Get out

>>376048416
That's pretty much instagib in quake. Which, yeah, is decently fun.

>>376047707
black semen fertilizing white eggs

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>Picking a difficulty
If you can't make your game have a universal difficulty that only YOU can make hard for yourself by playing a specific way, then your game's SHIT

>>376048674
Turn crafting into a puzzle game, get manipulatable Critical Strike(/Craft) Bonuses on what ever you craft
and make sure it isn't rng based/time based but instead solely skill based.

>>376048418

Red shells at least have some counter play.
You can turn sharply, block them with a banana or green shell, or various other counters.

Blue Shells, on the other hand, are complete and utter bullshit.

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>>376048415
this, I know its not objectively bad but man I just cant enjoy a game with turned based combat even if I try

>>376047707
Oblivion's level scaling.

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>Game throws all sorts of powers/gadgets/mechanics at you that offer a bunch of play styles and really change up the play
>BUT IF YOU USE ANY OF THEM YOU GET A LOW SOCRE/BAD ENDING

>>376048882
whatever it is i'm pretty sure cheese is involved

The battle system in Caligula.
The game has a fantastic story, OST, and solid artwork throughout, but the battle system goes from "CUHRAZY DMC-STYLE COMBOS" to "not this shit again" really fast.

Even in the tips provided by the devs it states to avoid enemies. It would have been a cult hit if it wasn't so tedious to play later on.

>>376049240
DEV: FUN IS FOR CASUALS

hunger

sprint in halo

>>376049062
This so fucking much.

>>376049240
Dishonored 1?

Dropped the game solely because of Forced Evasion.

>>376047707

Digivolving in Digimon World Cyber Sleuth was shit. The Camaraderie stat alone makes getting certain Digimon a pain in the ass.

>>376047707
For me most recently, in Starsector it fucking drives me insane with the supply resource management. I just want to outfit and collect ships and fly around space. The greatest threat in the game is running out of supplies and it completely sucks the fun out of it for me. It's not hard to acquire or manage, it's just tedious and irritating.

>>376049095
I can sit down and really enjoy Final Fantasy Tactics and Fire Emblem. But man main series Final Fantasy games and turn based combat without movement involved is just not exciting or fun at all.

>>376048919
Film, television, and literature are all passive storytelling mediums. Videogames are an active storytelling medium.

>>376049087
Just save a big sonic boom speaker when in first place

>>376048354
That's just instagib from old UT/Quake

>>376049095
>Wanted to play through ff13 back at release because the visuals n waifus were top notch
>gave up halfway through

Yet Pokémon and superstar saga I could get through just fine

>>376049334

>killing people gives you the bad ending meme

>>376049087

>He doesn't intentionally stay in a low position in the start of the race in order to get a invincibility star and then use superior driving to end up in first WITH the star at the ready.

>>376047707
timers

>>376049062
>>376049318
fug off :DDD

Skill trees with mutually exclusive unlocks, forcing you to play the game multiple times to try all the skills. Nigga, I ain't gonna play your 80 hour game 2 or 3 times just to see the other skills.

merchants having infinite stock which magically changes each time you open and close their inventory

just utterly immersion breaking and made me drop an already kinda lame game (Inquisitor) on the spot

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>>376050150
I know JUST the right game for you buddy!
It starts with an F and ends with All-out 4
Can you guess it?

>>376048674

Make it a rhythm and precision game. You craft less to level it up so it's less grindy, but the better forges have more complex and faster rhythm games.

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Perk trees in general

>Somehow killing 50 dudes magically made my backpacks larger
>Somehow killing 50 dude magically made my pistol's clip able to hold more bullets
>Somehow killing 50 dudes somehow makes me more resistant to bullets.

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>>376049486
That's exactly the problem though. If you are trying to tell a story, just tell it. Don't punctuate it with gameplay that forces a break in just telling it.

There is definitely a point to be made about how poorly a story is told through video games as they are. A game where your choice actually matters would change that, but it becomes very expensive to make with each branching storyline.

>>376050323
Uh, could it be Fhe Elder Scrolls V: Skyrimall-out 4?

>>376049062
While I sort of agree (self imposed challenges are the bomb) what is worse is a game where difficulty is only changes simple numbers in the game (xp rewards, enemy damage/hp, amount of ammo found) AND AT THE SAME TIME you cannot change the difficulty.

Hell not being able to change the difficulty mid game is a huge turn off for me.

Playing Deus Ex invisible war was annoying because at the early game playing on the highest difficulty was damn fun for my playstyle/skill, but HOURS into the game the difficulty ramped up where combat solutions just felt silly.

There is no reason to not have a game able to change difficulty on the fly. Sure changing the difficulty should lock you out of certain content/achievements but if your game is more than a few hours in length players need to be able to change difficulty.

>>376048072
How the heck are destructible environments bad? Destructible cover in shooters is the best.

>>376050589
Story in video game is perfectly viable so long as it is told in the format of Souls or Zelda 1. Pushing a literary narrative in a medium that gives 100% control to the player does not play to its strengths at all

Sewer levels

>le toxic water xd better fuck with pressure controls

>>376049405
Sounds like they need some type of 'money sink' for automatic resource collection.

>>376048072
>Ammo
So...you want to spam bullets like no tomorrow?
>Health Bar
1 hit kill?
>Slow Movement
If you are a heavy class that's the point
>good graphic
8bits then?
>having story
You wot m8
So you want to spam bullets without restriction, not having healt bar, being fast always and shit
You are autistic you know?

>>376047707
GRINDING
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>>376048301
Opened the thread just to post this

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>>376050860
>He uses automatic weapons
>He doesn't find 1 hit kills satisfying
>He plays a heavy class
>having classes
>he thinks shooters should have stories
And you're calling ME autistic?

I can tolerate some rng based gameplay, but when it gets to a point of excess it turns me off.

>>376050759
I agree with that. Letting the player sort of interpret/write the story for himself is definitely the way to go. The games you named in addition to most of the Metroids do that well. The story is there if you look for it, but it is not explicitly told.

>Batmobile segments
To be fair everybody was whining about wanting it since the first game, so it wasn't really the developers fault on that one.

Overly complicated grinds that you have to do very specific steps for, but also take forever.

Whenever I think about replaying games with those types of grinds, I always stop myself.

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>>376050782
Does this count as a level?

rune
words

>>376047707
>Valkyria Chronicles rewards you solely for fastest possible clearing of a level
It's dumb and devolved the entire game into scouts rushing past lines of soldiers and capturing the enemy flag. You rarely have any incentive to actually stand and fight.

>>376049769
>ff13
>turn based

>>376047707
Covenants in Dark Souls games

Prime example of an interesting idea done poorly and made worse every successive try.

>>376051050
I unironically liked them. I also unironically believe Knight is the best game in the franchise.

>>376050759
>Story is told through notes and recordings cause developers can't into visual story telling worth a shit

the whole rts thing in brutal legend

>>376047707
>Hunger
I want to play a game not a stupid simulator

>>376050150

Games like these AND I believe 4X games could really benefit from a really quick 'test arena' where you could "try before you buy".

Maybe to not give away any of the mystery of the game right off the bat you would 'unlock' different tech/abilities/units/ect once you've seen them in game or gotten sort of close to unlocking them in game.

Like wise for some type of RPG getting to see the skills in action could be really awesome, like seeing an enemy or a NPC be/use the class/skill you could unlock, that way you can at least see that meteor on sorceress in D2 is not as cool as visually/mechanically as frozen orb.

Or just an expensive respec. D3 as much as I hate the design of most of it was great this way.

Playing the Wind Waker

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>>376051427
I LAUGHED AND SHOOK HIS HAND

>>376051334
How does that ruin the entire experience though? They're not even essential.

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>>376047707
Camera/player movement controls.

>>376047707
Weapon durability

Time limits on your main objective.

>>376051812
How about

hidden time limits on your main objective.

>>376048674
Do what Star Wars Galaxies did.

>>376047787
underrated

>All this SJWs and redditors replying to a blacked whore with fake blue eyes

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>>376051812
Majora's Mask was ruined for this shit.

>>376051334
Aldritch Faithful is the patrician covenant of all the souls
>You dare debate me?

rain

Magnetite in Soul Hackers

How much of /v/'s population secretly wishes they were blacked?

>>376051812
Thanks for killing dead rising

RNG for upgrading stuff/crafting.

No, I dont want a 20% chance of making a better version of the armor im crafting, because now I just have to make a shitload of them because people only want the better version and sell the normal ones for scrap. Same with upgrading, if I get upgrade stuff for a few million dont fuck me over.

Same with diablo 2 with drops having semirandom stats. Nice Skin of the Vipermagi drop you got there, too bad it only rolled 21% on the resistance.

Rolling a dice for loot in MMOs.


Stupidest fucking thing ever.

>>376050589

Being read a story vs having a conversation is what I think of from your post.

When having a conversation sure the other person could force their views and steer the conversation but it can be a beautiful thing when you both are flowing together.

Playing a game of "would you rather" or "what would you do".

Similar D&D or another roleplaying game can make some of the most memorable and actually impactful stories for a person if the DM and players are 'good'.

Human to AI interaction is just not there yet so we have to rely on great artists from a gameplay/story/art/sound to all work together in a timely manner to make a great whole.

>>376052070
no one really, it's just a meme

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Quick Time Events

>>376047707
>tfw to intelligent for white dick

>>376050636
>While I sort of agree (self imposed challenges are the bomb) what is worse is a game where difficulty is only changes simple numbers in the game (xp rewards, enemy damage/hp, amount of ammo found)
I hate this

Even worse if higher difficulty means just more cheats for the AI. Fucking Total War, fuck that series

>>376051945
MM's time limits are such a non issue for everything except Kafei-Anju quest.

>game has 3 full skill trees filled to the brim with awesome skills and abilities
>doesn't have any boss fights except DLC
>final boss is a QTE in a cutscene

Man, I love Dying Light but they really, really fucked that one up.

Quest objects that can break if you get into a fight or jump around too much or quest objects with a timer.

>>376052093
Well, it has been fixed with games like ESO or GW2 that loot is individual.

>>376050576
I rather have stat distribution than getting stuff based on what you use. Like in dungeon siege you could try to play as a paladin with both healing magic and melee attacking, but the exp you got from healing youself was way lower than you got from fighting. So you just dropped magic. With manual stat distribution you can steer the crappy system right.

Or do you want to AFKrun into a wall for half an hour to upgrade your carrying capacity

>>376047787
>>376048347
>>376048442
>>376049061
>>376051935
>>376052070
>>376052325
kill yourselves

>>376051616
Kills all replay value because I can't get "all the pyromancies" or "all the faith skills" without retarded 1% chance grind on a very lategame enemy.

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>>376048072
So you want all games to just be shmups?

>>376052527
Oh I know. It's just something I always vehemently opposed.

Maplestory was the fucking worst. Fighting over loot. So fucking stupid

>>376051427
I actually like this desu, it feels like wandering through an abandoned neighborhood after a hurricane.

time limits

Hey did you want to take in the detailed area, explore the world and do dumb shit ignoring the main game?
Fuck you

>>376051945
One you reset and slowdown time, it is hardly noticable...also alot if not all of the masks required being places at certain times, without time constraints it would have been dull.

>>376049240
Dragon Quarter.

>>376051427
But Metroid Prime did both just right

>>376052449
For you, in an adventure game I hate to have to keep track of my time, most of the time when I play something I explore every single fucking thing and that takes time, I avoid timed games because of that MM is ruined because of that, same goes for Luigi's Mansion DM (serously who the fuck thought it was a good Idea)

>>376052932
What would MM even be about if it didnt have the time mechanic?

>>376051903
Butcher the entire game and ruin it for everyone?

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>>376052621
Ketsui and Ikaruga have interesting stories.

Also, aren't bombs kind of like ammo?

dark cloud 1

thirst in the early game

>>376048026
>weapon degradation

>in a game where you can trade equipment with other players

I liked it in Dying Light, at least. It gave you incentive to trade.

>DS1 lagstabs

>>376047707

I can name two

Being able to move while attacking
No collision between Player and Npcs

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>>376048072
Overwatch?

Fast Travel. When the game design is built around the player having fast travel.

>>376053054
Letting go.

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>Super cool move
>It has a really, really stupid name
>Every time you use it, you see the name

>>376053576
I don't see a problem here.

>>376049820
>doing morally bad things gives you a morally bad ending
>triggered because it reflects the real life you desperately try to escape from

"b-b-but all I want to do is live out my beta male power fantasy"

Nigger

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>Hidden items in the background that you have to find by just touching literally the entire screen

Fuck you Rhythm Thief. I liked the rhythm gameplay, but I'll never play you again for doing this.

>>376053464
Yeah we all know humans are incapable of using both their legs and arms at the same time.

>>376053665
what the fuck are you even talking about, retard?

>>376053665
What are you on about lol

>>376052621
Is that the old arcade game where your weapons went from like two little bullets to flamethrower energy whips? I loved that game to death but could never remember the name of it or find it again.

>>376053718
Profesor Laytone done wrong.
Some rythm games are good tho.

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Your health is low, quickly hide behind a cover!

Enemies know where you are at all times without tracing your movement like real humans would.

Cheap jumpscares.

Single ammo type for all weapons.

No combat in horror games, quickly hide or run away from this scary monster!

Poor AI in general ruins several games; genre could be whatever.

>>376053732

Hillarious but games arent real life and most action/rpgs/mmos would profit immensly from attack commitment.

>>376047707
Witcher sense/Bat vision or whatever the fuck they call it.
Yeah, let's fuck up all the effort put into crafting textures, lighting and all the graphics shit while also prodviding a shit solution to quest design. Great fucking idea.

Hunter-seeker droids in C&C Tiberian Sun.

>>376049769
ff13 is shit anyway

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>>376053975
>Enemies know where you are at all times without tracing your movement like real humans would.
Thanks for reminding me on how Payday 1 used to have this but Payday 2 removed it completely and cops just rush at your position immediately.

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>>376047707
>elsas getting blacked in the room next to you
>the door is open
Would you watch?

>>376052932
You have so much time in MM, especially if you use the song that makes time only move at 33% speed.

You have more than enough time to explore around without worry, and you only need to reset time after almost 3 hours, where you can return to exploring as normal.

Seriously, play past the first cycle and youl enjoy it.

>>376054436
Get my gun and tell them to get the fuck out of my house.

turn based

as soon as you get caught in hitman, everybody knows where you are and shoots you with perfect accuracy

>>376047707
never really understood this filename

fucking bullet sponges. what an incredibly unenjoyable mechanic.

looking at you masseffect, the division.

also secret numbers games.

>>376051404
Playing through it right now, it's much better than launch.

Unrestricted saveload

Ever since I quit playing Runescape grinding for levels or whatever makes me want to kill myself. Probably because I legitimately wanted to die back when I played Runescape.

>>376053718
it's that way in layton but rhythm thief's locations are all super obvious

you just need to tap anything that "stands out", and you'll be done in your first 5 taps

>>376053665
nigger what?

>>376047707
Puzzles
Unless the entire gaem is based around them they are just irrarating.The worst offender is arguably Mass Effect series
>first game had that stupid room in snow planet
>second game had stupid notepads that gave you money and weapon blueprints
>andromeda had that stupid Chinese crossword that you NEED to do to terraform planets seriously fuck this game who thought it was good

>>376053665
I don't know why people are playing dumb. I 100% get you, Anon.

>>376052089
Fucking this.
>want to fuck around with a tricycle and dress
>dumb daughter needs zombie antidote every few hours

>>376048301
The moment they introduced this to me was the moment I dropped it. Like it might have been bearable if you didnt have to manually vacuum up each one, like holy shit how did they think thats a good idea. I guess that's why the days are so long.

>>376048674
Mortal online style where you can build anything out of any material you want and each material has its own properties such as weight, durability, hardness, etc. You then build the individual pieces of each weapon and combine them, so you can put an axehead on the end of a spear or whatever, complete control over the design of your weapon.

This is the only acceptable crafting system as it promotes experimentation and learning the nuances of the system. Crafting systems that are just recipes are come garbage because rather than finding 10 horse anuses to build a weapon, I just want to find the fucking weapon.

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>>376051812
Fallout 1

>>376051032
How about rng based everything?
Looking at you current WoW

>>376055805
The system is flawed from a player perspective because eventually people will discover the best min-maxed combinations for weapons and everyone will only use that.

The radio transmitters in Dead Money.

>>376055989
Just open your eyes and use your head. You're retarded if you couldn't find them on your first go.

>>376049240
Megaman Zero

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Finishing this nightmare brought me joy

Rain in BOTW

Scanning or Xray Batman/Witcher vision

>>376054724
>bullet sponges
This, especially when they're random mobs, not even bosses.

Also, the opposite. Bosses that are invincible except for a few hits in the right spot, which they just show every now and then for some reason, even after you already hit them there.

>you only won because this boss was somewhat suicidal

>>376049240
What's wrong with this? Getting a good rank is obviously supposed to be a challenge mode. Don't do it if you don't want to.

>>376056302
that part was insane. whoever tested the game and thought this was ok should get scrotum cancer and die a slow and painful death.

>>376056605
>goes to hell
>expects to have fun
>expects it easy to escape from
What did you think was going to happen?

>>376054648
A problem with lots of stealth games. They should all use the MGS radio system or something similar.

>>376055983
So what? The fun is in trying to discover a better combination. It's stupid to remove build and customization options just because theres a best build. It's not even a problem in mortal because the best materials to use are also the rarest materials.

>game has a bunch of status effects you can inflict
>normal enemies dont have enough hp to bother with using them
>bosses are immune

>>376051603
yet that's far better than the previous way of storytelling where kojima would just stop you with the codec and say HOL UP HERE'S SOME EXPOSITION

>>376057064
or
>character/talent tree is massively overpowered on 90% of the enemies
>completely useless on the other 10%
>so most of the game you're desperately fighting with sticks and stones against that other 10%

>>376057528
>bosses nullifies all your buffs with one spell
This is so bullshit sometimes.

>>376057795
Fucking dragon quest

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>>376047707
Toxic fallout in Rimworld.
>can't grow anything
>can't hunt because wildlife died out
>can't have anyone outside very long for tasks
If the rng decides to make it brief then it's manageable. But it can last for multiple seasons, robbing you of the only growing season that year. So you better have a huge food stockpile or already have a sizeable hydroponics operation.

>>376057795
So any megaten game

>>376053975
>Cheap jumpscares.
I love horrorgames, but when they throw cheap jumpscares at me I stop playing.

Still have to give Outlast another shot after they started out with a jumpscare. I almost forgot I even had it until I recently heard talk about a sequel.

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>>376052235
Events where Time Quickens

>>376054904
quicksave ruins the challenge of what would otherwise be great games

>>376052790
>timed level
There could be an important collectable on this level, but in order to figure that out you just have to fail a bunch of times.

Nah, we wouldn't do that to you, we didn't hide anything here. So you wasted 15 attempts searching for nothing.

hnnggg.

>>376054359
why would they include this in the game anyway. How did it not pop up during playtesting as a problem. Did the drone never hit their MCV?

>>376053762
It's Battle Bakraid.

>>376051248
Seconded this, it was so satisfying methodically advancing my army using cover and making sure their interception fire overlapped with no losses and then getting the lowest rank and thus needing to grind to make up the point difference really fucked that over.

>>376053762
The one you're looking for is Fire Shark.

>>376054323

That's seriously one of the most retarded things I've read in a while.

>>376055343
he was saying people disliking time limits killed dead rising you casual fuck

>>376054904
I like that you can just quit the game when you want, also it allows you to see which path is the main path and load an earlier save to get everything. Sure cheesing saves can be dumb but you can limit yourself if you want to

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>>376056302
>when you get frustrated and just charge jump up the pillars and dont hit any blades and pass it in minutes

>>376056293
that series was especially bad
>can't use elves if you want to unlock special moves