> As part of a new law that recently went into effect, game

>>376036791
>Every box
>rare

>>376036791

>China
>makes every dev reveal loot box odds
>keeps kids from playing too much vidya
>reviews and has to approve every game sold there
>America
>devs can scam you with no recourse
>parents use video games as a babysitter
>anyone can sell a game on steam with no quality assurance

Why is China so ahead of America on gamers' rights?

>>376036791
Clearly, this is bullshit.

>>376037089

This is China. You lie to the government there, you get your shit pushed in.

>>376037053
communism > jews

>>376037053
Hush, America is currently distracted with the Jews, they'll never see China coming.

>chinks of all people have better consumer protection than the west
Well at least in this case, not really for any others.

>>376036791
>>376037169
>implying they just didn't change the odds for China players only
It'll still be trash odds for everyone.

>>376036920

It's fucking annoying how normalfag casuals have caused language in Blizzard games to be two-faced and deceiving.

>Players get an epic (purple) item once every 5.5 boxes.
>Legendary items appear once every 13.5 boxes.

Wait does that mean they have a statistical chance of getting those or does it mean there is an algorithm that rewards a legendary per value?

>>376037053
The difference is that China doesn't have as free of a market, which has good and bad things.

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>>376037053
>gamers' rights

>>376037053
>gamers' rights

LOOOOOOOL

>>376037285

>people eaten by escalators
>okay
>people getting scammed in a video game
>DING DONG BANNU

priorities

>>376037384
Rares have always been common

>>376037053
Individual-scam prevention is one of the very few benefits of an economic dictator controlling all business practices and wealth gain to the point of severe poverty.

It's the government that scams you instead.

>>376037384
>It's fucking annoying how normalfag casuals have caused language in Blizzard games to be two-faced and deceiving.
gg

>>376037420
>>376037486

Hi Blizzard!

Gamers are your customers. You need us to survive. We have the power of our wallets and we aren't going to take your shit anymore. Release the loot box odds in America or face our wreath!

>>376037251
but.. communism was invented by the Jews

>>376037749

The Jews control both sides you dunce.

>>376036791
Do you have to pay to open those boxes?
I never understood these microtransactions markets, i just sold everything i got on tf2 at first glance when it started and never looked back, but now i have hundreds of those in cs:go, rocket league and things like it

>>376036791
>Tfw got every skin in uprising event
Feels good fampai

>>376037842
Overwatch boxes are free to open, you get some for playing and you can pay to buy some more.

I don't play the game so I have no idea how many you get for normal play/ if they get capped.

>>376037401
This.

>>376037841
The Jews control everything, what else would you expect of the smartest race on the planet?

>>376037686
here's (you) bitch
https://youtu.be/z1Ch6N8QT00

>>376038034
They aren't jews though, they just pretend to be.

They are satanic shape shifting alien reptiles from the 4th dimension

Why does Blizzard suck yellow penis so?

Meanwhile you're lucky to get a legendary once every 30 packs in shillstone

>>376037401
I remember someone had said that there is a safety net where you will get a legendary after a certain amount of loot boxes if you didn't any legendaries until then.

>>376037842
You get them for leveling up (winning games) and also in the arcade mode you can get like 4 a week, one for your 1st win and then every 3rd win after that up to 3 times.

>>376036791
>paying extra for a game you already bought

optional or not, i'm not buying any game that has shitty tactics for my wallet

>>376038243
they're grateful for making them money

>>376038243
China is their largest market right now, and they pay by the hour there and in Korea, which is why RNG grind-fests have infested every level of WoW since WoD.

>>376037957
You get them through normal play, it's a set amount of exp between levels but the rate at which you earn exp drops after the first 20 levels or so. Also one of the potential prizes in the boxes is in-game credits so you can buy more stuff without converting real money.

>>376038396
Considering there's no inherent gameplay bonuses to these things and provide only cosmetic changes, I don't see why it even matters.

>>376037053
>wanting to live in China
>ever

>>376036791
I'm willing to bet those are just the odds for the Chinese client.

>>376036920
You're guaranteed a rare in every pack of magic cards. Of all the things you could argue about, you choose how they name things?

I've gotten a metric shitton of dupes. So many dupes that it isn't funny. Literally same fucking legendary skins over and over.

But am I mad? LOL NO!

Most of the skins in this game are trash and I've gotten so much ingame currency from dupes that I can buy whatever the fuck I want.

>Legendary once every 13.5 boxes

Not even that bad
Question is if it's actually true and applies to every other territory

>>376040678
i think it has to be true, isn't that what the law is about

could be different for other regions though yea

40 bucks to play this is already pushing it, why spend money on something that adds nothing?

>>376038664
>China is their largest market right now,

How come they haven't been hit by chinese knock offs?

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i like using the default skins

everyone else looks like an overdesigned clown and i like being basic as fuck

>>376041096
its not for people who are content with the base game silly billy
some people will pay out the nose for cosmetics so why not make some dosh out of it with minimal effort

>>376041128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrZHTBzX9ms

>>376041128
Knock-offs only work if the product isn't already available there, or isn't well-known.

Blizzard is too big a name in China for cheap IP clones to hurt them.

>>376037686
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170504006637/en/Activision-Blizzard-Announces-Better-Than-Expected-Record-First-Quarter-2017

>>376041128
Because Overwatch is f2p in china

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>>376036791
>>Every box contains at least one rare (blue) item.
>>Players get an epic (purple) item once every 5.5 boxes.
>>Legendary items appear once every 13.5 boxes.
this is what vidya has evolved too

>>376036920
The term "rare" has always referred to blue quality items in just about every blizzard game, regardless of their actual rarity.

>>376041353
what upsets me is that it's now been a year since the game came out (or at least, will be in under 3 weeks) and outside of a sitting emote and a laughing emote they haven't added any fucking cosmetics at all that aren't behind the event bullshit

>>376041128
They have.
http://youtu.be/nZJeisfRrdY

>>376039049

The richest cities are awesome, would gladly live there if I spoke the language.

>>376041493
No, it's what casual games for shitters have evolved to.

>>376041513
Incorrect, Rein got a skin not connected to an event

>>376041716
excuse me, a single character got a single skin

or actually two i think, didn't that skin have a color variant?

>>376041780
It did lmao

>greentext an article
>end it with "What do you think /v/?" type discussion starter

ban kotaku posters

>>376041849

>stop talking about video games on the video game board!

I want /pol/ to leave

>Legendary items appear once every 13.5 boxes.
That sounds about right.

I'd say its probably 10-15 boxes.

>>376038225
No, they're just autistic german larpers
Look at the actual semitic jews of the middle east and then at the ashkenazi jews and try and tell me those are the same ethnicity

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>>376036791
I can't believe you idiots even tolerate such a fucking slap in the face.
How fucking stupid are you Overwatch players.
Unlocking through play, especially ones where you actually pay for shit like this, should be direct and trasnaprent, the item, the points required and the ability to directly access it shit like this is nothing but a scam meant to take advantage of idiots.
How can you fags play games in which the devs see you and treat you as morons, idiots that should be taken advantage of, that should be denied and strung along as long as possible?
Well thanks a lot you dumb faggots, thanks to you the quality and expectations in gaming get worse and worse by the year, you fucks fuck over not just yourselves but everyone in the whole medium.
Your presence actively makes the world a shittier place.

>>376042729
You don't have to pay a penny for it so it's not bad. The game is bad, just not the loot system.

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>>376037053
>China
>reviews and has to approve every game sold there
how the fuck is that supposed to be a good thing
if they stop a shitty game from being released it makes no fucking difference because anyone with half a brain wouldn't have bought it in the first place
if they stop a good game from being released because they think its shitty then everyone gets fucked over
there's barely any benefits to requiring games to be approved

>>376042270
>I'd say its probably 10-15 boxes.
I'd say it's definitely once every 13.5 boxes.

>>376038243
Everyone is sucking yellow penis these days. China is full of shills.

>>376042729
Works for Valve. People like the RNG of it.

>>376043278
No, it's still bad, you should accumulate in game points/currency then given the ability to chose and unlock exactly what you want like many other games.
Not, a chance to unlock something you might want, it's stringing you along dangling a carrot with no ability to simply reach the carrot directly, just chance, a purposefully small chance.
And some people do buy them. Why deny the player the ability to directly access what they want?
No other reason than to scam them out of money or time, neither one of which should be thrown away.

>>376037053
Consumers don't have rights in the US

>>376037251
>china
>communist
American education, everyone.

>>376037686
Don't listen to him Blizzard

I am also a customer, and I don't give a rats ass about the odds and releasing them would just be a waste of time.

>>376042729
But Overwatch is free to play in China

>>376041331
I'm with you. I like some skins, but it's often the purple ones if anything. I wish there was a way to disable skins, or at least certain ones that really don't fit in. Bedouin Genji, Goddess Symm and almost all seasonal skins come to mind.

>>376037053
f2p isn't nearly as bad in America as it is in Asia. Asians think pay to win is the norm, and are totally ok with blowing thousands to gamble for the chance to get good items.

We don't need that kind of regulation (yet) because game devs know they can't dick us over that much.

>>376044992

Most actual Pay To Win games just end up failing in America. Super Monday Night Combat was by all standards a better game than Overwatch but it's pay to win bullshit made it so no one new wanted to get into the game.

Pretty irrelevant if you ask me. I will never pay for lootboxes and gave up playing Overwatch months ago because it's shit.

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>character skins
>for a game played in first person the majority of the time

someone explain this meme to me

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>>376045508
you hit taunt and admire yourself, or show off to the people you kill

>>376045117
SMNC's early release fucked it up way more than the cash shop

>fuck up your beta invite system
>some series of other fuckups and bad choices leads to them "accidentally" releasing the game early and trying to be cool and roll with it
>game is buggy as shit with terrible matchmaking and features missing

I don't even understand how you fuck up your game release that bad.

>>376045508
You don't have to see yourself constantly to know you look good.

>>376037169
>You lie to the government there, you get your shit pushed in.
More like "you don't know and pay the right people, you get your shit pushed in".

what about other games?

TF2?

>>376045751

Well yeah that too but it's still possible to come back from a bad launch. The cash shop made sure it couldn't.

>>376036791
>5.5
>13.5

A box is a box you can't say it's only a half box.

>>376045508
You also live in first person, but that doesn't mean you should look like shit.

>>376037251
China is hardly communist any more.

>>376046090
HEEEEEENRYYYYYYYYYY

>>376046090
>I don't understand how statistics works: the post

It's called reducing you faggot. You'll get 2 of each every 11 and 27 boxes.

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>>376037053
>gamer's rights

>>376045981
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mann_Co._Supply_Crate/Active_series

It's not official but since they put in the rarity shit it's probably just a flat rate by rarity

>>376046090
1/54

>>376036920
Relative to whites, they are still rare.

that's pretty reasonable, I'd be interested what the difference is with event boxes.
It feels like you get epic and legendary items more often in event boxes.

>>376044084
>No, it's still bad, you should accumulate in game points/currency then given the ability to chose and unlock exactly what you want like many other games.
But... That's exactly what you can do, you get in game gold, which most people usually save up for events

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>>376037053
>gamers

>>376043517
It's not reviewing whether the game is good or not.

It's reviewing whether the game is in line with the ideals of Chinese society. If it goes against the ideals of the Party, it gets axed.

>>376040373
Well, if something is described as "rare" that means it isn't common (as in "it rarely happens"). But if it happens every time then term "rare" loses it meaning, right?

I mean, it's not like "epic" which is completely made up term that describes something of better quality in video games.

>>376037053
Free market, bitch. Deal. Don't be a retard and research your purchases. It isn't difficult.

Also, any game with an official rating must be played and tested to 100% completion or else it can't be legally advertised in America. They're not even allowed to show gameplay footage unless it is at least under the category "Rating Pending", which means it is currently undergoing extensive testing and the footage shown has already been approved. So the government still reviews the games. The difference is that they apply a rating instead of saying "This doesn't fit what we want so you can't have it."

>>376038063
Was this always a parody?

>Legendary items appear once every 13.5 boxes
Bullshit.

>>376046418
You're guaranteed at least one event item per box. And since there's fewer event items in the pool that probably ups the odds.

>>376046570
Except that it still fits rare. There more than one type of rare item. You only get one per box, which means that the odds you get a particular rare item is rare.

>>376046585

You do realize that the ESRB is not a government organization right?

>>376037053
But they can't have skeletons.
'murica wins again.

>>376046635
makes sense.
I actually had 2 event boxes left over that I just opened, to my surprise one of them included one of the Legendary skins I thought I missed out on.

>>376046570
>Well, if something is described as "rare" that means it isn't common (as in "it rarely happens"). But if it happens every time then term "rare" loses it meaning, right?
They are rarer than commons though, what's hard to understand about that.

You get 3 commons and a rare.
In magic you get 10 commons, 3 uncommons, a rare/mythic, and a land. Rares are more rare than uncommons and common, even though you are guaranteed to get one.

>>376037285
>>376037053
This particular law was made to make gold farming easier. Now that odds are disclosed gold farmers can use them to calculate the exact most efficient ways to farm currency in games for resale. Gold farming is a massive chunk of China's economy.

>>376043517
Bribes

>>376046715
It's weird because their dumb mobile games have skeletons.

>>376046927
The skeleton rule is really just one of many arbitrary rules which only exist to provide excuses to block Western content.

>>376046806
Curious where you got that idea. The way I hear it, the govt doesn't give a shit unless it personally effects a party member, and rules around games like this usually have more to do with some party member's son making his dad's life miserable spending all his money on stupid games so he greases palms to create legislation to try and stop his shitty son from being shitty. Nothing gets prosecuted unless someone with money or influence says so.

>>376046710
It's ratings and such are required by the government. The whole Sega and Nintendo publishing anything without a proper rating made the U.S. government force the creation of the ESRB

>>376047223
But they don't always block the games, they put the extra effort to censor the skeletons by making unique models for them.

That's a bit redundant if the rule only exists to block Western content.

>>376037053
Jews don't run everything in China.

>>376046585
>denying consumers information to make more money off them is the free market
You are literally retarded. Do the world a favor and put your bushmaster in your mouth and pull the trigger faggot. Libertarian shit stains need to be gassed.

>>376047409

You are still 100% completely wrong. The industry voluntarily created the ESRB due to video game violence being hot in the media and talks about if it needed to have government regulation.

There was nothing forced, nothing is mandatory, it is not government related in any way.

>>376043517
>if they stop a shitty game from being released it makes no fucking difference because anyone with half a brain wouldn't have bought it in the first place
>Steam greenlight
>early acces
>shovelware
Wew lad, did you just get to the land of freedom yesterday?

>>376047223
This. They knew they could squeeze blizzard for more money because blizzard was making crazy dough in China, so they just made up some excuses (man, don't you think skeletons are TOO scary?) which were all code for "give me a slice and you can sell your dumb lucrative game"

>>376043517
It's not as good as you think.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sSeOShvXik

>>376036791
>get the same thing over and over
>nothing in place to alleviate this
Yeah, fair

>>376047415
It's about exerting control. If you're a Western dev, you either bend to their whims and change your game, or you don't get a piece of the lucrative China market.

>>376047903
>>nothing in place to alleviate this
except you can choose a specific item to buy with credits which you get when you get duplicates.

And you get more and more credits/time as you accumulate a higher percentage of available items.

It's still a shitty system, you only get a fraction of what the item is worth and even less for event items because they're 3 times more expensive but don't give you 3 times the refund of its item class.
But all the same there is something in place it alleviate it.

>>376047357
Gold farming is a major industry in China. They even have prisoners doing it for them.

>>376036791
Imagine not giving a shit about cosmetics and just playing the game.

>>376048150
And it rewards people who put in time which is how it should be. I am now constantly sitting on at least 5k gold because there's nothing left to buy except event stuff and I get at least 40 gold from each box if not a lot more.

>>376042162
>Defending Kotaku

I want newfags to leave

>>376046684
>>376046803
The problem is in name. Blizzard's ranking system goes like this:

Poor (Grey)
Common (White)
Uncommon (Green)
Rare (Blue)
Epic (Purple)
Legendary (Orange)

where Poor, Epic and Legendary describe item's power and Common, Uncommon and Rare describe item's rarity.

>>376048338
ok, and? you want them to change the name of them or something?

>>376048338

Ok, so what words would you use to describe more rare than Rare?

>>376042729
>shit like this is nothing but a scam meant to take advantage of idiots.
Yes and? I'm not big on the idiot defense issue.

>>376048298
it's certainly a lot better than other games I've played with drop bullshit.

I used to play TF2 a lot and I remember leaving my PC on while going to classes in order to get those fucking hats.
Trading just made it worse, people would sit in servers and barter instead of actually playing the game and limited time items that should have just been for fun became a commodity in the price hierarchy.
Imagine if Overwatch had an economy, you could no longer buy items with coins and instead had to trade with other players.
Those fucking witch outfits and olympic gear would suddenly cost you $20 real money or you'd need to trade 60 hours worth of trash items to trade up to it.
Or what if you couldn't buy anything with credits, and you had to just pay real money to get the thing you want.
Fuck that noise.

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>>376037686
>wreath
Did you say wealth??

>>376036791
>Legendary items appear once every 13.5 boxes.

So basically you NEED to buy at least 14 boxes for a single legendary, or level up 14 times for a single legendary.
Yeah fuck you this shit isnt fair.