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>guys its the post apocalypse >people are so poor that

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>guys its the post apocalypse
>people are so poor that they need to use bottle caps to pay
>hurr durr somehow its an accepted currency
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>not knowing that pre-20th century industrial advancements it costed more to refine a kilo of aluminium than to buy a kilo of gold
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>>376028508
paper is an accepted currency
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>>376028508

Money is a store of value, not the value itself. Money has value if you believe it, so it's irrelevant if you use gold coins, bottle caps or shiny beads.
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>>376028508
>what is fiat currency?
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>>376028732
>>376028786
>>376028814
>fiat currency
>used by post office acopalypse traders

kek'ed
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>>376028520
Not to mention the glass for bottles would be equally hard to manufacture.
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>>376028786
As true as that is, our money has physical representation somewhere in the world

bottle caps wouldn't
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>>>/tg/53030842
In Fallout 1, caps were backed by the large water reserves of merchants at the Hub. The commonality of caps around the wasteland for a good while meant you an ample supple to work off of already, plus the existing caps were extremely hard to counterfeit in large numbers without an official press (which were EXTREMELY rare post-war and almost entirely in the hands of the merchants).
Add in the small weight of individual caps and their rather high durability and you got a decent replacement for old world coins (which recovering the technology of the wasteland couldn't yet reproduce in mass quantities). While definitely not perfect, they were a serviceable stop-gap.

By the time of Fallout 2, people generally used regular paper money produced by the NCR. This paper money was backed by their substantial gold reserves. Caps were still around of course, but generally were only used in areas where the NCR hadn't yet spread.

Fallout 3 went back to caps because Bethesda hasn't played the games. Granted, the East Coast wouldn't of had the NCR dollar (the NCR being based in California; only in NV, many decades later, had it reached Nevada), but they also shouldn't of had caps (which were backed by an entity literally a whole continent away). Maybe there was someone in or near DC who also backed caps?
Bethesda isn't really clear on the lore here.

Fallout NV used caps as well, stating that the NCR gold reserves were all irradiated by the Brotherhood of Steel to the point of uselessness, sending the value of their currency through the floor and forcing people back to the old standard, water-backed caps. The NCR dollar is still around, but it's just paper at this point.
The Legion, oddly enough, has functioning printing presses and actually produces coins out of rare metals such as silver and gold. These generally hold their value even outside of Legion territory.
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>>376028520
>not knowing that bottle caps weren't fucking made of aluminum.
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>>376028928
Except it doesn't.
>what is a fiat currency?
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>>376028945
>irradiated by the Brotherhood of Steel
Thanks Elijah
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>>376028928

>our money has physical representation somewhere in the world

Lol not in the present day an age it doesn't.

Money hasn't been backed by real physical resources for decades now. Nowadays (((They))) just print however many bills are needed.
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>only one bottle cap press exists
>you destroy it instead of becoming rich
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>>376028508
>guys get water filtration working, control pretty much all drinkable water in the erea, trade in goods starts feeling inneficient, got a factory in decent state that produced bottle caps, start implementing it in water trade, it spreads.
Atleast that's what I vaguely remember.
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Caps are for losers.
Legion money only.
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>>376028928
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>>376028508
>thinks caps are the only currency in fallout
this is how I know you've never played fallout
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>>376030506
Member that cap counterfeiting shack with the cazadores around it. Seems pretty easy to jew the system.

Fallout Tactics has ring pulls, brotherhood scrip etc. for currency, but most people in the world just barter goods and services.
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>>376030475
This, there's barely anything backing up money anymore because fiat money is maybe a tenth of the whole system while 90% are book money (or even more)
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>>376030475
But it does? Exports = Net Foreign Investment. That means once your money leaves the country by spending it imports, it comes back as investments into your country's assets, e.g. Chinese investors buying U.S. real estate. It's also an asset with perfect liquidity meaning that it can become anything at any point you wish.
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>>376030506
>show up with a bunch of obviously brand new caps
>word gets out
>Crimson Caravan send people to kill you for trying to fuck up their economy
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>>376028508
The most likely currency in a post-apocalyptic world would be bullets not bottlecaps.
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>>376036796
>someone mugs you for your bullets
>you either hand them over or shoot them
>either way you're poorer than when you started
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>>376028915
Can't exchange caps for water or something?
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>>376028915
What >>376028786 described is not a fiat currency you illiterate American voter.
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>>376028945

>should of

Are you 12 anon?
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>>376037262
>spend some bullets instead of losing all of them
>get to take his bullets after you kill him
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>>376030475
>>376029829
Fiat money is backed by governments. Governments invest in each other and tax in their currency. If taxes aren't paid, assets are seized and auctioned off in currency.
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>>376036796
Actually you can make bullets out of basically any metal, only smokeless powder reagents will be particularly valuable.
Also worth noting you can use good old black powder cartridges in an AK if you don't mind a full disassembly cleaning after every engagement.
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>>376028508
They're made of steel which is a pretty useful material.
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>>376037819
>Modern bullets are only made of metal
Look at this fucking idiot
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>>376038083
>being picky after the nuclear winter
An insanely fast moving piece of metal still kills you dead even if it isn't Lapua approves. FMJ ball hasn't died.
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>>376028915
There isn't a trader in any of the games who won't also take a trade.

Caps are only worth what people are willing to say they're worth, there's no centralised control over caps. That's why the same items cost different amounts all over the place.

Plus the people who originally started using caps would've been deliberately trying to ape the pre-world concept of money, it's not like people just randomly pulled the concept of currency out of nowhere.
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>>376030475
actually, there are two kinds of currency in real world. 1) Actual physical bills ands coins that are backed by gold stockpiles of different countries.
2) Money that exist in debts between state and other coutries or big banks. These currencies are already "used" thousands of times more than gold stockpiles or actual bills in circulation in the entire world.
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>>376028945
Why is she playing her rifle like it's an electric guitar.

Is this a traced picture of a band on stage.
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>>376039531
>she
Here's your answer.
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Who's drinking all the soda?
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>>376039752
People who are dying of thirst but can't find any clean water
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metro2033 did currency best.
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>>376028508
>>hurr durr somehow its an accepted currency

It doesn't fin in any counter, so that's why it's the best currency that can ever exist.
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>>376028508
>caps in Fallout 1
A reasonable currency established in the background.

>Fallout 3
Lol, remember CAPS? NUKA COLA! DOGMEAT! BUY THE SEASON PASS!
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>>376031004
I'll give you a coffee mug and a paper weight for that
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>>376028508
Honestly outside of Fallout 1 and kind of New Vegas bottlecaps were retarded
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>>376041417
They're common, light individually, and are made of a valuable material.

They're the perfect temporary currency.

And before people criticise FO3 for using bottle caps, remember that The Capital Wasteland is an ancap shithole with no established government, meaning that no new currency can be made.
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>>376041036
DC has a Nuka Cola Plant and no other method of printing currency, how do caps NOT make sense in FO3?
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>Bottlecaps
>NCR Dollars
>Legion Denarius
>BOS Script
>Ring pulls
>Pre-war money
>Charge card
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Using bottle caps is a stupid premise anyway. So we're supposed to believe a wastelander is going to carry around 1000 of these on his person and count out for example 568 of them if he wants to buy something?

It should have just been a flat barter system. You want a gun, I got 3 chems, do you accept, Y/N? If not then you offer 3 chems and a stimpack. Putting a concrete value on everything watered down the experience because each item should only have value to you as the player. As a melee build a gun is completely worthless, but still somehow is worth 1300 caps to anyone and everyone. Guns sold in stores now aren't even like that and sell for various prices.
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>>376042387
explain the roads existing then
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>>376042968
Those are pre-war roads, so literally no one has to maintain them.
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>>376042968
Roman roads are still around. Does that mean the Roman empire still exists?
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>>376043201
It kinda does depending on how you class the Vatican.
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>>376042896
If it's backed by water, where are they getting the water from?
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>>376042948
Every Fallout game ever made allows you to flat barter. Any time you sell an item, it's value is transferred into caps, which you can buy other items with.
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>>376043648
Water Beggars

They're not beggars at all
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>>376043691
That's why I don't like it, there should be some ambiguity there since you don't know if you're getting a good deal. The use of caps at all means you can always get a 1:1 trade value for your stuff and takes all the mystery out of it. I don't like having that universal value told to me.
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>>376028508
>pre war money still lie literally everywhere
>not just use it
fallout is so fucking retarded.
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>>376043857
>hyper-inflated paper money, which means there are entire bricks of it all over the goddamn place
>a good currency
You're retarded
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>>376043857
Backed by what?
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>>376044054
But it is as long as you don't print even higher bills. Hyperinflation is not a problem because the currency has many zeroes on it, it's an issue because zeroes keep growing very quickly.
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>>376044054
bottlecap is also inflated as fuck according to lore. and they are heavy to boot.
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>>376044175
>missing the fact that it's everywhere, and easily damaged, while bottlecaps are, in comparison, rarer and more sturdy
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>>376044129
by my 10mm :^)
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>>376044054
How did so much prewar money even survive the nuclear holocaust?
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>>376044295
levelled lists
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The only logical post apoc currency is bullets. You are uneducated if you disagree.
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>>376038785
Well in Fallout 1 a cap was worth what it could hold in water, so caps were set up as a currency by the water traders in the Hub (I think? It's been a while).

In Fallout 2 you can see the phasing out of this trend with NCR bucks, but caps are still accepted.

In Fallout 3/4, Bethesda just wanted to be cool I guess.
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>>376044339
But then why isn't the ammo the currency rather than the caps?
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>>376043857
The paper is worthless without any fiat currency backing it.
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>>376044339

im pretty sure caps are currency because they remember people how life was good before the nuclear apocalypse

you should educate yourself before shitposting
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>>376044339
where are the facilities in the game which turn caps into ammo?
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>>376044339
Fucking drama queen
Shit art too, kys
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>>376044339
fucking kek, metals to make ammos are everywhere, they dont even need to hoard caps.
and it's not even any kind of caps. only nuke cola caps are accepted.
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>>376044495
And in New Vegas bottlecaps were back but it also included NCR paper and Legion coins.
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>>376044295
Probably on people who were between big cities when the bombs went off
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>>376044585
>200 years after the apoc
>remember
does not compute.
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>>376028928
>our money has physical representation somewhere in the world

Bottlecaps are water backed currency, NCR's useless toy money is gold backed currency.
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>>376044840
The NCR Dollar is backed on water by the time of New Vegas, there'd be no other reason for it to be the weakest currency in the game otherwise
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>Gold is just a shiny rock with no use other than getting bitches
>Somehow it is the deciding world money.
>Somehow its the deciding post apoc world money

Could someone explain this meme to me?
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>>376043648
The vendors who sell purified water.

Going by that logic, I have to wonder if Canterbury Commons have control over the currency.
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>>376044691
I feel like in NV they really wanted to steer away from caps but got forced into it by Bethesda.
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>>376045465
Gold would have more use in the post-apocalypse than it would have 2000 years ago
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>>376045730
It never had a use to begin with. It's literally a shiny rock that you can break with your bare hands.
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>>376045465
Gold is extremely useful. It's non-corrosive, doesn't blemish, can be pulled/rolled into impossibly thin sheets/strings and is malleable and conductive. And there's not much of it on the planet.
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>>376045729
Probably not.

Caps are the designated "neutral" currency in the Fallout universe, used only in places were no major government controls anything. It's why anarchistic places like The Capital Wasteland use them.
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>>376045729
Changing the system to accept coins and dollars as currency instead of items with a fixed price would have been a huge pain in the ass, even if they did have more development time
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>>376045838
There is probably some gold right there in your computer.
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>>376045838
http://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml
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>>376045838
No, you dumb fucker. Gold is invaluable in the electronics industry.
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>>376045893
>Caps are the designated "neutral" currency in the Fallout universe

[Citation Needed]

And you're not allowed to say "because they used them". There is legitimately no reason for caps to be currency in Fallout 3+
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>>376045950
I mean, they had three(?) different kinds of currency in New Vegas. It would have been even better if certain people put more value on the different kinds of currency you could have.

Instead, everything is just caps, and the other currencies are pointless because they are just worth X caps.
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>>376046053
You mean the industry that didn't even exist when the world decided to make gold the currency standard?
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>>376046092
In 3, it makes sense because of >>376042896

I'll admit that it was weird in 4, though.
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>>376037628
Now that's a good idea for a game
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>>376046219
It would have been nice but GECK-Gamebryo is a hateful engine to work with. I'm sure one of the reasons no one has ever made a mod out of it is because it would be too much effort for too little reward
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>>376037628
>>376037262
>>376036796
>>376046316
Um metro 2033?
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>>376042896
I'm sure DC has tons of different manufacturing plants, it makes just as much sense to use anything else there as currency.
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>>376028928
>>376028915

Traders use water as backing for caps, dumb niggers. LORENOOBS
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>>376046219
>Instead, everything is just caps, and the other currencies are pointless because they are just worth X caps.
Or are caps worthless because 25 caps is only worth 5 vegas bux.
>Not roleplaying as an NCR citizen using only NCR $'s
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Bottlecaps were used as makeshift currency because the volume of trade in Hub became too large for bartering. The Water Merchants started issuing them as water credits.

They disappeared in Fallout 2 because they're actually a pretty crappy kind of currency when you think about it.

Then Bethesda brought them back because lol fallout
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>>376038373
Look at the Junk jet
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>that one guy in Fallout 4 who tries to rip you off by offering you a credit card
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>>376046628
Caps are still in use in California
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>>376044662
Didn't the ammo bench do that in NV?
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>>376046583
A terminal in the Nuka Cola plant reveals that a series of shipments went out on the day the bombs fell, which explains why caps can be found everywhere in the map.

That abundance makes them the best choice as a currency.
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>>376044676
and sunset sarsaparilla caps
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>>376043853
That means you want trading like pic related, that would mean something not so smooth for those who want to trade,buy and sell things.
Having currency means that you can buy something for a price accepted by the mayority.
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>>376046483
Yes, we know.
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So how exactly is Tenpenny "wealthy" besides squatting in a tower in the middle of nowhere?
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>>376046858
You're right, Nuka Cola was probably the only company shipping things that day.

And just because it's abundant doesn't make it a good currency, probably the opposite actually. In Fallout 1 they were set up as currency by the biggest traders in the area, not just because they were lying around.
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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree Fallout 4 is pretty fun, or at least fun with mods?
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>>376046724
>that one guy in Fallout 4 who tries to rip you off by offering you Fallout 4
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>>376047079
Fuck off Todd
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>>376046864
Since sarsaparilla is a superior beverage to cola their caps should be worth 5 nukas.
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>>376046253
>the highest conductive material
>doesn't oxidize so easy
>very malleable
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>>376047061
By being a landlord.
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>>376028945
>literal (((merchants))) manipulating currencies
Like clockwork.
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>>376046483
Oh i know why it sounds fammiliar
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>>376044339
>I'm done. I am so fucking done.
See you tomorrow.
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>>376047184
thats why the star bottle caps exist
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>>376047079
No. Fuck off todd. Fallout 4 was shitting on the whole serie.
Fallout 3 is worse than fallout 4, but it's in a scale of Horrendous piece of shit to shit.
I believed bethesda. I believed the fact that fallout 3 was their first fallout and so they wouldnt repeat the error of it. Bad RPG, Bad Openworld, Bad shooting. But i tought, they did some great changes with the serie and the 50s art deco focus was one great idea that if Van Buren ever existed, we wouldnt have, like the magazine/comics system and the jump to 3d too.
I believed it. I tought they learned their lesson.
but no. They didnt. They casualized it as fuck. After New Vegas. A game made by true, RPG lovers, where i found again my love for fallout. And then fallout 4 came and shat on the serie i always loved.

The artbook of fallout 4 and 3 shows how shitty bethesda is. They don't try new things, they don't make enough fucking content in their games, they makes bad RPG. Fuck them, fuck them to death for destroying the serie of my childhood and i fucking hope that Cyberpunks 2077 will blows Bethesda out of the water and makes them wake up because finally they will have competition in the "3D FPS/TPS RPG WHERE YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING YOU WANT EVERYTHING CAN BE PICKED UP CMON ITS FUN" genre.

i trust CDPROJEKTRED, they have shown in the Afterlife blog that they saw,analyzed and understood what makes a RPG an RPG. They seems to be keeping up with the "Pen and paper" Cyberpunk 2020 and wish 2077 to be like a literal game version of it but later in the future. They have shown their interest in this "niche" genre that bethesda fucked and casualized.
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>>376044676
>forgets Sunset and the beer caps are also added too your cap inventory

you are a fucking moron
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>>376047512
They turn into regular 1 cap caps when you finish the quest, only crazy people chasing legends value them more than any other cap
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>NCR, a nation-state, has a handful of vertibirds, they are pretty rare and require a lot of resources to maintain properly
>Random nobodies in Boston have unlimited armadas of vertibirds, in addition to the BoS, and vertibirds are now pre-war

ebin
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>>376046253
it cant be corroded by anything at the time and rare but not too rare so people decide on it you idiot.
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>>376045465

>>Gold is just a shiny rock with no use other than getting bitches

For a large, large period of history this was really fucking important, anon. Are you stupid?

Ignore the memers saying it's valuable in electronics or shit like that, though. They're retarded. 99.9% of the people who desire gold don't care about that. Gold was originally desired for it's prestige, and then people began accepting it in barter knowing they could trade it, leading to more people desiring gold, leading to more people accepting it, leading to more people desiring gold and so on into the greatest meme in history enduring to this day. We value gold today not because we want to use it for anything, but because we valued it yesterday. We valued it yesterday because we valued it the day before that. Repeating all the way back to Mesopotamian dirt farmers.

As for why gold instead of other widely desirable goods like food or cows; gold is portable, durable, divisible, and loanable (in that I don't care if you repay me with a completely different ounce of gold while I do care if you borrow my car and give me a completely different one back).
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>>376048161
> ignore the memers saying it's valuable in electronics of shit like that, thought. They're retarded.

Kill yourself dude.
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>>376048268
when did cpu become a currency?
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>>376044950
Nah, their gold supplies got fucked. So almost everyone abandoned the NCR$, and it lost most of its value compared to Fallout 2.
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>>376048268

Yes, gold is a globally accepted currency due to the influence of an industry that didn't exist until millennia after it's acceptance as money. Please calm down before you hurt yourself.
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>>376048268
He's right. Gold is used for electronics now but for the majority of human history that's not why it was valuable. It's still not valuable just because of that, it's valuable because it's rare and shiny, that's it.
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>>376047061

It's a protection racket.

You live there and you get protected from Super Mutants, but you gotta pay him tribute I bet.
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>>376048501
and easy to maintain
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The only acceptable currency should be NCR Dogtags
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>>376048737
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>>376048440
Valuable meaning is important/ valuable piece in electronics, obviously you can't use a cpu to buy food, but you can sell it to trade the value of the item for something more or less equal in currency or another object.
Even fucking sumarians figure that out thousands of years ago.
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>>376049065
and how is it related to gold being the currency 6 gorillion years ago?
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>>376049149
Computers lost by time travellers
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>>376047061
Its not often games let me kill rich assholes. Ten penny tower will always have a place in my heart.
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>>376048737
>his cash doesn't have QT3.14s on it
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>>376048553
Super mutants can crack open vaults.

That shitty tower ain't shit.

Then again, somehow super mutants have been completely stopped by some sheet metal put up by children living in the same cave system as the largest super mutant factory on the east coast.

FO3 has some fucking awful writing.
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>>376049149
It was a good matterial, for many porpuses and, a lot of cultures knew it was rare, that combined with it's appearance and bright make it obvious that they give it such a high value.
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>>376038373
I think he means more the propellant/primer.

that's gotta be the more difficult part of the equation when making bullets in the fallout world.
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>>376049484
>President is referred to only by their first name, even when their title is being used
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>>376028945
In the fallout lore book, Enclave was forcing the use of old world style paper money,outside of this, it was almost all still barter. Outside of the commonwealth where the technology superior area, with synthetic servants used a pure electronic currency, backed with processing power and time, similar to crypto-currency
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>>376049693
Tandi was unique. Kimball gets called Kimball even though his first name is Aaron because he's not half as popular as she was
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>>376049693
>implying Tandi gives a single fuck about your traditions
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>>376043468
>instigators of the collapse
>being the empire
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The caps were backed by water merchants from the hub, which is why they were accepted as currency.
The NCR dollar was backed by gold reserves until the brotherhood blew them the fuck up, now they use water.
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>>376045465
Its a bubble that has grown so long everyone accepts it. If someone gives you a bar of gold for something you accept it, because you know everyone else accepts it. Thats whats required of money.
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>>376049693
Tandi probably didn't even have a surname
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>>376046053
>>376045951
>>376046049
It is useful for applicances but if you look at the demand and production its worth is way higher than it should be since a lot of people use it as safety net when they are afraid of inflation. If gold didnt have its uses it would still be worth a lot.

>>376047187
silver and copper are more conductive, gold just doesnt corrode, but thats why you only put a tiny sheet of gold on plugs.
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>>376028945
>shouldn't of

What the FUCK is wrong with people? Don't you have to be at least 18 to post here?
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>>376028508
うぁt、てぇティんgてぇyウェれ れう新gと簿ttぇcレアんわてr?

不c金gれ他rd、
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>>376050886
epic
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>>376028945

>currency loses value
>doesn't return to simple bartering

Fallout is retarded, that's all you had to say.
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>>376050886
アノン君はうんこじゃない!アノン君はかーかーかっこい!
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>>376046693
I like that filename anon
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>>376051105

Most of trade in Fallout is barter
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>>376050886
>>376051150
speak american faggots
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>>376049484
>The dayglow incorporation address
that actually gives me feels.
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>>376051348
Oh, sorry!

共产主义者同盟这个在当时条件下自然只能是秘密团体的国际工人组织,1847年11月在伦敦举行的代表大会上委托我们两人起草一个准备公布的详细的理论和实践的党纲。结果就产生了这个《宣言》,《宣言》原稿在二月革命前几星期送到伦敦付印。《宣言》最初用德文出版,它用这种文字在德国、英国和美国至少印过十二种不同的版本。第一个英译本是由海伦·麦克法林女士翻译的,于1850年在伦敦《红色共和党人》杂志上发表,1871年至少又有三种不同的英译本在美国出版。法译本于1848年六月起义前不久第一次在巴黎印行,最近又有法译本在纽约《社会主义者报》上发表;现在有人在准备新译本。波兰文译本在德国本初版问世后不久就在伦敦出现。俄译本是60年代在日内瓦出版的。丹麦文译本也是在原书问世后不久就出版了。
不管最近25年来的情况发生了多大的变化,这个《宣言》中所阐述的一般原理整个说来直到现在还是完全正确的。某些地方本来可以作一些修改。这些原理的实际运用,正如《宣言》中所说的,随时随地都要以当时的历史条件为转移,所以第二章末尾提出的那些革命措施根本没有特别的意义。如果是在今天,这一段在许多方面都会有不同的写法了。由于最近25年来大工业有了巨大发展而工人阶级的政党组织也跟着发展起来,由于首先有了二月革命的实际经验而后来尤其是有了无产阶级第一次掌握政权达两月之久的巴黎公社的实际经验,所以这个纲领现在有些地方已经过时了。特别是公社已经证明:“工人阶级不能简单地掌握现成的国家机器,并运用它来达到自己的目的。”(见《法兰西内战。国际工人协会总委员会宣言》德文版第19页,那里把这个思想发挥得更加完备。)其次,很明显,对于社会主义文献所作的批判在今天看来是不完全的,因为这一批判只包括到1847年为止;同样也很明显,关于共产党人对待各种反对党派的态度的论述(第四章)虽然在原则上今天还是正确的,但是就其实际运用来说今天毕竟已经过时,因为政治形势已经完全改变,当时所列举的那些党派大部分已被历史的发展彻底扫除了。
但是《宣言》是一个历史文件,我们已没有权力来加以修改。下次再版时也许能加上一篇论述1847年到现在这段时期的导言。这次再版太仓促了,我们来不及做这件工作。
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>>376051105
Fallout is set 80 years after the bombs fell, that's long enough for trade to return to a level where money has its uses in addition to bartering
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>>376035880
>weather the caps yourself because youre not fucking dumb.
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>>376051204
Ikr? I inspird in other anon
Now that i remember, you can heaadshot people andd blow their faces with a teddy bear, it's hilarious.
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>>376028508
Not gonna argue when they're talking ghouls, mutants and shit man...
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>>376051660
The entire franchise is basically a parody.
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>>376052102
Don't reply to Peteposting
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>>376043648
One could contrive its backed by a different method

Brotherhood of steel is the largest faction, Considering they don't have a printing press(they mostly care about weapon tech) its not a bonkers idea that caps would be backed by the BoS

This is especially true since they hand out the most caps for quests than almost any other faction
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>>376053389
The BoS is also confined entirely to the ruins of DC fighting Super Mutants day in and out. The only people they'd have contact with are Rivet City and raiders/Talon Mercs
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>>376028508
>>hurr durr somehow its an accepted currency
what is bitcoin
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>>376028945
>shouldn't of
Stop just one moment and think about what those words mean.
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Post-apocalyptic /v/ game with (You)s as a currency when?
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>>376028508
This is literally how it works now and has worked forever for every society that works with a legal-tender mercantile system.

The very first step is assigning value to something, and using that thing to trade as a surrogate for actual important goods and/or services. This isn't complicated. The gold standard was founded literally on the principle that "This shiney rock is important and will be deemed valuable". We currently use some of the most common metals (zinc, copper) to denote value with coins, paper and plastic for money...I mean fucking Bitcoin is just this but digital. A ton of people agreed that something had value, so it became valuable.
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The problem with fucking bottlecaps is not that they are bottlecaps, it's that there are no bottlecaps of higher values.
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>>376055824
To be fair, spoken vernacular and written operate under slightly different rules. A lot of people when typing directly transcribe their thoughts, so phrases like "He shouldn't of said that" or "I couldn't care less" show up when they shouldn't.

I mean, "Shouldn't of" is supposed to be "Shouldn't have", but when there are burgerbobs running around saying "ME AND MY CLICK" and throwing the word 'Literally' around like aids, this seems like it'd be on the lower-end of the scale when it comes to grammatically offensive things.
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>>376057283
This is the only valid complaint.

Bottlecaps being currency isn't even outrageous, what doesn't make sense is there being no stamp or seal or token that denotes large numbers of caps. This means that you are legitimately expected to carry around thousands of physical bottle-caps as currency, which in a real-world situation would be impractical as fuck. They would at least have to implement something like "1000 caps = 1 deodorant bottle" or some shit, or else limit costs so that nothing could possibly cost more than 200-300 caps and 2000-3000 is enough to buy a goddamn nuclear-powered car or something.
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>>376057291
"I could care less" is the one that is improper.
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>>376046620
right answer if played fallout 1
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>>376028508
Caps are used as a currency because they're difficult to replicate and they're backed by traders in the Hub. The Hub backs their value with either Gold or Water, but you have a good backed currency that does its job and doesn't require paper currency as a majority of it is burnt to a crisp. The NCR would replicate the American paper-dollar later on, but Caps were all people could use before the technology became available.

Also it should be noted that the Hub is the main trading hub in California, which means Caps are supported in all major communities, which means it would also be used in smaller communities as well.
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