How do we save the Warhammer 40k universe, /v/? Every game in

>>376015119
>female
>commie
>space marine
Someone is gonna get blammed.

make a rhythm game

>>376015215
It's ok, she's a probably a Tau lapdog

Games Workshop needs to revert back 5 years, when they were kinda fucking with the storylines but not the way they are now. I mean shit, have you seen Age of Sigmar? There's nothing worth producing with that kind of source material.

>>376015119

why do leftist women want to be men?

>>376015319
They don't you uptight retard, short hair is cute and spunky.

>>376015119

They need to seriously just make the full-length movie and get it over with... everyone's forgotten about that really bad CGI one by now, right?

>>376015481
you mean the new one?

>>376015119
Space Hulk Ascension was fun

>>376015428
The body that should fit the face in the OP should struggle with the weight of just one of those shoulder pads

>>376015569
Well, if you count 7 years as "new" sure

I'm talking about THIS PoS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvCLG1QZjs

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>>376015119
less SPESS MEHREENS more guards, inquisition and everything else.

>>376015119
Give the license to real, established, competent devs.

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Most 40k fans are just looking for a well put together game that has a good coat of paint 40k paint on it with fluff true to the source material. It really shouldn't be this hard for them to figure this out, but somehow it seems to be a point of contention every time.

Tyranid game when?

>>376015119
Gothic and DoW3 was good.
If you think it wasn't then nothing will be good enough for you.

>>376015119
why do girls pretend to like war-hammer

>>376015119
I really wanted deathwing to be good, I REALLY wanted it to be good. Now it's just rotting in my steam library as a burn mark.

>>376015119
You can't.
WH40K fans are terribly autistic it spoils whatever they touched.

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unless some Devs make a call of dooty 40k with 10 big dudes with big shoulder pads with big chainswords fighting 15 big green 6 pack FIGHTING fungis without the frame-rate dropping to a minus like that game space hulk then it's fucked

>>376015119
make the imperium great again! XD

Battlefleet Gothic was pretty good. I unironically enjoyed DoW2 and Space Marine too.

Nowadays though WHFB has way better titles. Which I really don't understand when GW said fuck you to the setting

>>376018762
Is that Cyrus in termie armor
How in the fuck

let CD Projekt make a game about an Inquisitor hunting down a chaos corrupted business/political influencer who is corrupting the planet's government on a hive world with the backdrop being the Space Marines defending the planet from a Tyranid invasion.

The Inquisitor spends the game following leads and traversing a massive Hive city while there's a massive global conflict as eye candy

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>>376015215
The Empire of Man is actually pretty close to communist.

How else would they keep such strict social control over people across countless worlds?

>>376015215
of course the first post is instant cringe

I regret coming in these threads honestly

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>>376015119
>female space marine
>space commie chapter

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>>376018497
basically this
>dawn of war sequel comes out when nobody expected it to ever exist
>literally the best dawn of war game in years
>fans bash it to hell because "not muh DOW1"

fucking entitled whiners

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>>376015791
How new are you kid? Space marines have always had silly proportionally small seeming heads.
No normal human should be able to handle the weight of that armour if it were accurate. Space marines are literally genetically and cybernetically enhanced giants and the power armour is a mechanised exoskeleton.

But feel free to jump at any chance to jack yourself off over being a keyboard commando against "da ebil leftits!"

>>376015865

What a PoS.

Still, the fight versus the daemon at the end was pretty cool.

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>SPACE MARINE WILL NEVER GET THE TWO SEQUELS IT SET UP

Fuck this dark timeline, I want out

>>376015290
Repeat after me: the end times never happened and malekith is not the Phoenix king.

>>376021543
In the grim dark future there is only space communism

>>376015428
>uptight
that's a man with tits

>>376015865
Oh yeah i'm totally down for the here ticks.

>>376020554

It's more facist than communist.

There's really nothing communist about the Imperium at all, except their willingness to win wars with bodycounts

>>376015119
give the IP to From Software.

>>376022251
Hasnt GW been handing out the license like candy? FROM just have to get withing smelling distance of GW and would get the rights.

>>376022251
>>376022391

Why would FROM want to waste their time on a 40k game?

The souls games sell fucking gangbusters, and they won't have to shell out 1/2 of their profits to the idiots at GW.

Personally, I want GW to fucking die and anyone else in the world to take over their IPs

>>376022391
but that would result in a decent 40k game with great atmosphere and gameplay, and you should know we can't be having that.

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>>376020331
Fuck that, brawler game like the warriors where you're a gangster in Necromunda, when?

>>376022708
But DoW2 is a good 40k game with God-tier atmosphere and great gameplay.

>>376022915
now that's proppa cunnin' AN' orky to boot!

Is this Kino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZc6cr6G2E4

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>>376022993
but the legions of DOW1 nostalgiafags tell me it sucks.

the same legion of DOW1 nostalgiafags that are telling me DOW3 sucks

>dawn of war 1 was a mistake

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Well, Tabletop plot is finally moving forward and basic marines are getting new models so the vidya might get good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wXCBDiLEA

Shame about them still mostly buying new art from DA and reusing old painted pieces.

>>376023292
Oh and Roboute girlyman is in terra building a new crusade to retake the galaxy.

>>376023292
If Age of Sigmar is an example of how tabletop is going to be It's going to be shit

>>376023373
They are actually posting updatet rules everyday https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/26/warhammer-40000-weaponsgw-homepage-post-4/

The ones they have posted, like making vehicles and walkers just have shitloads of wounds and armor is much better than the current shitfest we have.

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SLY FUCKING MARBO!

>>376023292
I don't think they are new models, that was the original leak/"plan" but they decided it would be too stressful for players to pretty much re-buy entire marine armies, so space marines are getting a new 'space marine' though they haven't said anything on what they are, but they are different to regular marines and created by Roboutte. From the sounds of it, it's marines with altered gene-seed/different rites of initiation etc, rather than a 'new MK IX armour'

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>>376015119

just make a traditional RTS with Warhammer 40k units.
none of thus "Relic: muh capture points and squads" Bullshit.

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>>376022915
>2017
>Still using ultrasmurfs

>>376023581
They are no longer squatting. Thats good enough reason for me to switch using them.

Why the FUCK IS THE CAMERA SO CLOSE TO GROUND OF DOW GAMES REEEE?!!!!!

>>376023292
>Roe-boot-tay

I always thought it was pronounced Ro-bout with the bout said like it would sound in about. Do you think he's a big fan of booty?

>>376023734
that's the artificial difficulty of RTS games.

How is Dawn of War 3 by the way? My brother got it but he's too busy playing Dota to actually give me a rundown on how the game fares.

>>376023734
AND WHY THE FUCK IS CAMERA MOVEMENT NOT WASD BY DEFAULT?

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>>376022240
>except their willingness to win wars with bodycounts
Lol

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>>376023650
It's just a pic I saved, if I ever get into warhammer I'm going to get Lizardmen, I like fantasy more.

>>376023992
How many RTS games do that?

>>376023963
its got terrible balance issues and only 1 game mode with only a handful of maps.

wait a month when they iron out the balance problems and some new maps come out on the workshop

>>376023992
i bet you still click icons with your mouse instead of using the hotekeys.

>>376023871
>spoiler.
According to /tg/, he is into eldar booty.
>>376023963
Contrary to what Arch would tell you, the game is NOT a Moba. It does have potential and the orks are still awesome, but the VA is lacking compared to the older DoW games and the "MOBA" mode is the only multiplayer for now.
Is a lot more aggresive that the other ones, but the singleplayer can be saw as a glorified tutorial for some.
And people are mad about Gorgutz krumping Vance Stubbs, Diomedes doing his own termie acrobacies and Macha not banging Gabriel Angelos

>>376023963
It's shit. seriously. Not worth $60 and I'm already bored of it. Single player was shit. Game does so many things worse than its predecessors. It's been dropping like a fucking rock in player count each and every day since it launched. Already takes a long time to find a match and this shit just came out a week ago.

>>376024002
>There's really nothing communist about the Imperium at all, except their willingness to win wars with bodycounts
read the post again, anon

>>376020554

Such stupid comment. I bet you are American.

It's clearly a satirical exagerated take on a fascist state.

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I wonder what it feels like to be responsible for ruining a game series.

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>>376025793
I imagine it feelts pretty good.

>>376026014
Didn't he move on to Blizzard?

>>376026178
He is back at GW (and made a good burn at PETA for acting stupid again)

>>376025270
>Game does so many things worse than its predecessors.
Ummmm no, try again' umie.

>every game

Looks like you don't know what you're talking about.

Good on you. Welcome to /v/

>>376024774
>macha banging gabriel

isn't he like 80% machine? and what kind of eldar would bang a monkeigh, let alone a space marine aren't they like indoctrinated to the point where they're immune to such things?

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>>376022993
>god-tier atmosphere
it doesn't get any better than that

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>>376025793
wow this guy is actually literally a faggot

What is the flying baby shit the librarian has? Is that actually a part of 40k lore?

>>376027838

Yes, Cherubs are vat grow, they are just another type of servitor

return to 3rd edition

lore and looks

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Shelf the Imperium as the default playable protagonists.

>>376023292
Secondaryfag here. Can someone explain how do humies hope to avoid being Nid food?

>>376015282
But Tau aren't communist.

>>376015119

By doing a correct Dawn Of War 1, like everybody wanted in the first place.

No moba-shit, no starcraft cumpetitive gaymplay, no half-assing the atmosphere and general ambiance.

Basically what this guy said : >>376017484 but supersized.

Just make a good game. Not hard.

>>376027294
Have you ever heard about the ever-virgin meme?
>>376030469
Make sure the Tau gets in the middle.

>the only thing people wanted from Dawn of War sequels was to take DoW1 and up the grafix, army size, playable races and better balancing
>this is apparently impossible for Relic and the mere thought of such direction beyond all critical thinking

>>376031134
I thought Tau were just a speck on the galaxy map.

>>376031158
>the only thing people wanted from Dawn of War sequels was to take DoW1 and up the grafix, army size, playable races and better balancing

DoW3 ups the graphis, army size, expands every army tenfold and is the most balaned Dawn of War game to date.
Yeah, no. You're wrong as fuck otherwise people would love the shit out of DoW3 which they clearly do not.

>>376024774
>Contrary to what Arch would tell you, the game is NOT a Moba
Arch Warhammer?

He has made a review where he says it's more like WC3, with how it handles heroes.
Except WC3 had its heroes go from weak to powerful by leveling up, and DoW3 has its heroes being at max right away.

I find that comparison pretty believable.

>>376018762
Nah, if you want CoD 40k, you do it like this
>campaign focuses on like 3 or 4 teams of Imperial human special forces
>all are somehow tied to the same sector
>varied battlefields, from being a part of huge battles to spec ops
>lots of customization options, from the whole squad down to your weapons and equipments
>the story in general is mostly straightforward, but the overall plot once you connect everything is more complicated with a lot of hints hardcore 40k fans will be able to understand/argue about
>gameplay focuses on ranged combat, but have a few ways to make melee interesting too - just not the main part

Some mission/story ideas
>Inquisitorial Storm Troopers are hunting down some mastermind who is cutting deals with Dark Eldar and causing shit all over the sector
>Krieg Grenadiers acting as support in a massive, entrenched battlefield where the Deathkorps are fighting Orks, doing stuff like relieving failing trench lines, leading counterattacks, being redeployed where bigger Orks have been spotted, providing support for tanks, etc
>Cadian Kasrkin operating on the same planet, just behind enemy lines causing as much havoc as possible
>some OC Storm Trooper Regiment sent to the sector to rescue some important Imperial official and retrieve some sensitive documents

>>376031326
A speck strong enough to take down any WAAAGHs, Crusades and Hive Fleets stupid enough to cross them. (And yes, the Imperium can crush them but now they are more concerned about dealing with the Armless One)

>>376031793
>DoW1 has 9 playable factions
>DoW3 has 3

>>376032152
>He has made a review where he says it's more like WC3, with how it handles heroes.

That autistic fuck has never played Warhammer, he built up his Youtube on reading out Lexicanum articles to the Total War community.
If he made this comparison, it also means he's never played Warcraft 3 either and is simply playing an armchair specialist like he's always done.

But a person who can bash two brain cells together is the king among a horde of subscribers who consider even that to be rocket physics.

>>376032323
>9 playable factions
... after several expansions. Let's be fair.

>>376021189
>t. Female commie

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>Make bait thread on /tg/
>It falls off
>Make it on /v/
>It gets bumped

>>376032272
As a former CoDfag, that sounds awesome.
>>376032323
>Dow 1 began with 4 factions, ended with 9.
>DoW 3 began with 3 factions, Relic said they want to eventually put all factions.
I don't think they will do it, but just saying.

>>376032283
But the Hive Fleets so far have been confirmed to be just the scouting fleets. What hope is there for Tau or the Imperium when the fleet's main body arrives in the Milky Way?

>>376030469
Both the Emperor and Slaanesh have "fought" with the Hive Mind and bested it. The Ultramarine Librarian was able to survive it "attacking" him. So psyker powers are the way to go.
Or maybe defeating them in space, where they will be unable to replenish biomass.

>>376032283
They defeated minor WAAAGHS, only splinter fleets and "giantests ever bestest" crusade that somehow had less forces than those participating on Vraks, Fenris or Armageddon.

>>376032630
Datz because ya did not put da fing about dat sneaky humie and dat panzee girl. Dat get dose gits real mad.

>>376032891
But those are exceptions. The shadow in the warp usually drives the psykers mad.

>>376032323
DoW1 had 9 races after 4 years of development and 3 expansion packs.

At launch it had 4 factions which had much less units than their counterparts in DoW3.
Both games get expansions so this is totally in DoW3's favor as it's going to have at least the same amount of factions with many more units and options than their limited DoW1 counterparts.

>>376032806
>What hope is there for Tau or the Imperium when the fleet's main body arrives in the Milky Way?
Go full choppy, it's working with da orks.
>That one part on DoW 2 where Thaddeus mentions he likes the chainsword because it never runs out of ammo and Tarkus thinks that may be useful at dealing with the nids.

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>>376033013
Yeah, but humanity is evolving. If they do it, they will be much stronger psykers and the Emperor will be able to be reborn. If the Imperium falls before achieving that, the point is moot because reality will be destroyed and replaced with Chaos if the Emperor dies. Or maybe if humanity is practically wiped out before the Emperor dies, then the giant Daemon incursions everywhere where humans still live will have to be dealt with by the Tyranids.

>>376033024
yeah, at 25$ each

>>376033537
just pirate the DLC like Total Warhammer

>>376033537
>yeah, at 25$ each

That's pure speculation at this point. I coud say bullshit like $25 for a full 100 hour campaign and all units ever deployed by said faction, including Forge World and Horus Heresy units.

>>376032272
You need less playable characters for it to be a real CoD, so when you get betrayed and killed in first person it feels more impactful.

Stormtroopers are cool enough to be playable characters.

That said, I don't think you could combine vanilla CoD mechanics and 40k setting too well, and not because I dislike CoD or anything. It would be quite stupid to kill huge lumbering orcs and potentially CSMs in a short lasgun burst.

>>376032410
>rocket physics
>rocket
>physics
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>376034068
Well, the game can't be 4-6 hours of the prologue mission of Battlefield 1, right?

Make a campaign game centered around 30k.
Pretty much just digitize the Forge World books coming out, two or three to a game.

That'll at least buy time for them to make a decent 40K game with the same assets.

>>376034234
I didn't play that so I don't get the reference.

The game could play as a bit more traditional shooter. Give you some weaker enemies to kill (Blood Pact), then some harder ones that require team effort to deal with (CSMs). You'll still need to go light on fluff and include some kind of heal/reviving mechanics. Something like RepCom, though probably without putting a healing station in every trench.

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>>376033024
>it's going to have at least the same amount of factions
You sure about that?

How many factions did DoW2 end up with?

DoW3 being a more demanding game to create and run, I wonder if we can really expect 9 (or more) factions by the end of it all. Especially if each faction is going to have even more units than the previous games.

>>376034409
>I didn't play that so I don't get the reference.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvhFRNr47A

>>376032272
>mission where you're part of a penal regiment fighting 'nids on a world slated for exterminatus

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Fall of Cadia game when?
IG, Mechanics, SM, CSM, Necron, Eldar, and Sisters

>>376034572
>You sure about that?

I can't be sure of anything, of course, but what I can say is that bashing a game over the fact it does not have 9 completely different factions at launch is asinine at best,

Also, the campaign hints at Necrons while people found a Warhound or Baneblade in the World Editor.
So it's pretty reasonable to assume they're shooting for an expansion with Necrons and IG at least, I'm hoping for Chaos as well since they were the point of the current campaign and are Space Marine reskins in the end, anyway.

And if that game got an expansion with 3 factions, I could say it's the best DoW game to date without a shred of irony or uncertainty about it.

>>376029558
>Shelf the Imperium as the default playable protagonists.


ABSOLUTELY THIS

The Imperium actually is the less interesting thing about WH40K

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>inb4 b8 gets posted

>>376015119
Sell the license to EA.

>>376015119
Make it less like a 40k game. The more they try to stick to the lore and mold the gameplay to revolve around the verse, the more the game will end up being crap. Give it good gameplay first, then you worry about the story.

>>376015290
>how do we save the 40k universe
>starts complaining about WHFB

This is how they were able to market and sell Age of Sigmar and how it was a great success. WHFB players are factually retarded.

>>376018497
>>376021567
Exactly this. It is impossible to make 40k where everyone agrees it is is good.

Reminder: even Space Marine got completely shit on by 40k fans at release for not being good enough.

>>376034658
That would probably get old.

Hotchkiss is really cute, though.

>>376030469
>Can someone explain how do humies hope to avoid being Nid food?

Why, by accepting the Silent King as the true savior of the galaxy, of course!

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>>376015119
Make a dating sim

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>>376035115
>it was a great success
Wait, what?

>>376035238
Make Huniepop, but with Heresy.

Heresypop.

>>376035326
AOS is a actually a great success. Sales, people playing and great models all back this up. In fact, it is selling way better than 40k.

>>376035326
>He doesn't even know that by all rights the amount of sales it made make it a great success even if the community whines about it

Like I get it, you think that OPINIONS make something good or bad.

But really. The amount of revenue it made means it was a great marketing decision on their part. And people like anon who can't even read the first post in a thread, are why it sold, which is why they can say its a success, which is why the oh so smart community who knows what's best for the game shot themselves in the foot about it.

But I digress.

question for lorefags: What are the implications of girlyman coming back to life? Is he gonna dismantle the ecclesiarchy? Did he get to visit his dad at the nursing home?

>>376026014
>>376026742
Reminder that Matt Ward is practically Shakespeare compared to the HH writers, Lord Daddy Issues in particular.

>tfw no Classic CoD game for the Istvaan III where you play as loyalist World Eaters, Emp's Children and Death Guard

>>376035652
>Is he gonna dismantle the ecclesiarchy?
You'd be pulling out thick roots out of a brittle cliff. He wants to, but can't

>>376035652
Basically;
>Really mad and depressed about the way the Imperium is
>Talks to his Eldar cocksleeve a bit as she stradles his dick with her entire body
>Says fuck it, we're gonna do another Crusade
>Starts making new Space Marines to reinforce the old Chapters and even bring a few dead ones back

>>376035652
Guilliman was famous for being an unparalleled logistical master.
The Imperium is infamous for being a bureaucratic nightmare.

Outside of Magnus coming back to sit on the Golden Throne, he's probably the single most likely Primarch to unfuck the Imperium's shit.

>>376035601
Well, fuck me. Didn't see that coming. But alright then, it must be better than it looked when it was revealed.

>>376035609
Quit the shit-flinging for a moment and just stick to enlightening me, please.

>>376035652
Girlyman took one look at all the shit around him and went all cynical about everything. He's pretty much just accepted the current status quo of hings, the Ecclesiarchy sainting him, and then had the giant Library on Maccrage closed from the public because knowledge has no place in this Imperium. He's still trying to return the Imperium to glory but he's not stepping on any toes like one might expect.

>>376035656
>Lord Daddy Issues
To think people still loves his Night Lords stories yet he messed up the HH to full chaos wank (and messing with the backstory of the Blood Ravens)

>>376022915
>blue gives orkz luck
>waaaaaagh makes their disguises viable
>orkz disguised as ultramarines...
Hoky shit, it just dawned on me. Orkz pretending to be Smurfs can literally infiltrate any Imperium settlement.
That also explains why Ultras have such ridiculous plot armor, they're just lucky as hell, thanks to orks.

Fucking COD but with IG and cultists get the massive dudebro audience in there

>>376015119
>female space marines
fucking why

sisters of battle exist, why the fuck do we need female fucking space marines

>>376036365
>(and messing with the backstory of the Blood Ravens)
Fortunately, he got utterly blown the fuck out over that one when Rebirth came out.

>>376036382
Ork reality warp only works in the vicinity of orks. Ork tech in general either doesn't work entirely or is inefficient in a non-orks hands depending on the writer

>>376035601
It only became a success when they added points, anon.

But I agree with AoS > WHFB, because I fucking hate Empire players and they are the worst scum for pretending to be Old World/Fantasy fanboys.

>>376036570
Huh, still, that's a perfect disguise to go against hummies

>>376015119
Buy more models please

>>376036493
>Fortunately, he got utterly blown the fuck out over that one when Rebirth came out.
Details?
>>376036570
Then why Yarrick is still alive?

>>376015119
Battlefleet gothic was good.

>>376036857
>Then why Yarrick is still alive?
Too orky to die

>>376034068
That's still 3 or 4 playable characters. You play the same guy in each squad, just that you have an option to customize the squad also. Plus you don't have to focus on betrayals at all. Like the newest CoD doesn't seem focused on that, but rather the brotherhood and losing friends. And if I take my 4 suggestions, the shock value factors could be
>Inquisiton ST are mostly blank characters, but there is some sense of camraderie. The biggest characters and shocks come from DE fuckery and the Inquisitor being a fiery zealot
>the Kriegers are basically soulless machines, but the shock value comes from the horrible scale of death happening all around you. Maybe have one of the minor warbosses take a personal vendetta in hunting down your squad when you foil one of his attacks, so there is an interesting character. Or go the cheesy route and have a naive commissar that values human life and is horrified by the senseless deaths
>the Kaskrin could basically be Band of Brothers style campaign, just with more specops and Emperor praising
>the OC ST could be tailored to pretty much anything. Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, basically whatever you want

The customization is absolutely needed imo, because as a rule most of ST won't be picking up enemy weaponry or be in a position to resupply/exchange Imperial weaponry weapons.
And of course CoD mechanics could work. First of all, you are playing as Storm Troopers so you have access to the good shit. Hotshot lasguns, grenade launchers, power weaponry, etc. The Inquisition could also use Xeno tech upgraded weaponry or straight up Xeno weapons if their Inquisitor is radical.
If you want a good example of CoD like gameplay with more varied and stronger enemies, just look at Wolfenstein 2009. At least in my opinion, it played very similarly to CoD but was still distinct and with lots of different enemies, from hulking brutes to agile, cloaking assasssins.

>>376015791
>power armour
>concerned with weight

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>>376036857
The short story Rebirth involves the Corvidae (Raven) cult being sent away by Magnus before Prospero was attacked, led by a man with a name similar to Azariah Vidya, who says "knowledge is power, guard it well".

This was after ADB went on record saying he was trying to retcon the Thousand Son connection (pic related) , meaning he was either vastly overestimating his importance, was lying, or was told to fuck off.
Given how buttblasted he got over it, the first or third options are most likely.

>>376015791
Dude, Space Marine armour is stolen from Starship Troopers.
It's power armour that enhances your capabilities, not medieval-style plate that bogs you down.

>>376036921
If it is good, explain why multiplayer in it is dead like all the other 40k games?

>>376037785
It's an RTS game. MP in those games always dies down to about a thousand or so people.

>>376037325
>no savlar chem dogs
>no last chancers

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>>376023292
>Cadia is kill
>Rowboat girlyman is alive

Am i missing anything?

>>376037735
Not quite, in starship troopers their power armor came with jump packs and muni-nuke launchers.

Does your average marine have that?

>>376037735
It's not that until every Space Marine is equipped with jet packs and nukes as standard kit.

>>376015119
Why does she have a "Friendship" chainsword?

>>376020554
>ultra authoritarian monarchy where the ruler is considered a literal god
>communist
lmao

>>376037986
No arms managed to throw away TWO massive armies that could have conquered their way to terra alone and still failed at his primary objectives.

Also all the eldar are happy homosexuals together again, even the BSDM homosexuals who fucked up their homoerotic jamboree in the first place. And nobody seems to mind for some reason.

Oh, and the pylons that made Cadia unique, studied for countless generations, and a lynchpin of defense against the warp? Apparently there are just tons of planets just like it all of a sudden.

>>376037980
Savlar Chem Dogs would actually work. Put them against non-Chaos secessionists and they could use enemy weaponry and technology, while fighting other humans makes the game really easy to balance in terms of gameplay/lore

>tfw no banshee gf

>>376037986
>Magnus got his payback on the Space Wolves (they still live thought)
>Be'lakor tried to destroy Terra using the Phalanx and he got a Imperial Fisting for it.
>Ynnead is real, but it caused a big mess on Commorragh and fractured Biel-Tan (they still live). Also helped the mechanicus on reviving Papa Smurf.
>Fulgrim and Moration got butthurt on hearing Guilliman return.

>>376037986
>Rowboat girlyman is alive

He's also a xenos abomination that contridicts some minor lore by being brought back from the dead by a race that shouldn't be able to do that, despite the fact he was slowly healing anyway. And if he ever goes against the knife ears they can kill him. And everybody on terra is cool with putting him in charge.

And the ultramarines are surpisingly ok with random xenos and heretics getting close enough to murder their SPIRITUAL LIEGE in the middle of a chaos invasion.

And the black templars are suddenly chill and respectful of heretical saints and xenos.

Emperor with a text to speech device is more codex compliant than this shit.

>>376037413
So what he's saying is that because CS Goto was shit he's allowed to be just as bad?

>>376035656
I will never understand the hatred of ADB. He is the only actual good writer in the black library stable.

Dan Abnett would be a good writer if he could write more than one story over and over. A story about titan war should not feature the same story about a squad on a journey you've written everywhere else you hack.

>>376032272
>Imperial Human
Every fucking time

No one wants to play as cannon fodder. Give them Space Marines. The Imperial Guard character should just be a hidden playable character for veteran players and fans.

>>376036921
It's ok.

It's broken as fuck and was unplayable at launch. People tell me it got fixed, i didn't care by then.

>>376038768
>I will never understand the hatred of ADB
Read Master of Mankind, or anything to do with Abaddon.
TL;DR he lets his personal issues and fanboyism get in the way of writing a good story, and unlike Matt Ward, he's both well aware that he's doing it and doesn't care, and he's also shitting on other factions/characters in the process, rather than sticking to the Ward staple of wanking off singular factions/characters in relative peace.
He's the fluff equivalent of Cruddace.

>He is the only actual good writer in the black library stable.
He WAS a good writer.
His early work clearly had him with either an editor or a much smaller ego.

>>376038568
>Emperor with a text to speech device is more codex compliant than this shit.
What a time to be alive.

>>376038568
>And the black templars are suddenly chill and respectful of heretical saints and xenos.
To be fair, the Black Templars are bros with the Sisters of Battle and if the latter says Celestine is not a heretic, they will look to the other side.

>>376038781
Not all guard are complete cannon fodder. A bunch of stormtroopers can easily hold their own against some orks

>>376038568
Have they retconned the broke ass golden throne and dying emperor yet?

>was considering getting DoWIII
>already one of the deaddest generals on /vg/, beaten by autistic niche games
It's dead, isn't it?

>>376039081
That internet cartoon is the most autistic and cringe-worthy shit I've seen in a while. It is like concentrated autism in an already autistic fandom.

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>>376038424
>Be'lakor tried to destroy Terra
>got and Imperial Fisting for it

Would you say they rocked his world?

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>>376039307

>>376039263
The current circle-jerk is making sure it is as dead as other DoW/40k games. Just sit back and watch it all burn.

>>376039585
>RTS are ruined because of "fans" who can't tell the difference between RTS and MOBA.
This is the worst timeline.

>>376039263
It's dead because people don't have the attention span to try it.

If they somehow get past the jaded "ITS NOT DOW1" claims and the "ITS A MOBA" (spoiler, all ""moba"" games are basically RTS games with one unit with special abilities, read: elites, so yes, if you want to use fucking buzzwords and be an actual fucking millennial then DoW3 is as much as Moba as LoL is an rts.)

You are left with looking at a game that rewards you for sitting on your ass and teching up. Power is so abundant on every map that most people don't even buy tactical marines anymore because they are by far the weakest unit in the entire game, and Eldar can just mass Wraithguard and win and there's little you can do about it. Most ways to counter heavy armor is with heavy armor, which ironically Wraithguard counter heavy armor.

Yes you can just get assualt marines with power swords or what have you, but you have to remember that eldar that mass wraithguard usually have Jain Zar, Macha, and 5-8 squads of howling banshees to go with their wraithguard, meaning you can't fight them with assualt marines.

But I digress. The problem comes from nobody trying to learn the game because they just look for the typical RTS shit, build order that make you win, when this is less like starcraft 2 because just building a unit does not mean you win the fight, BECAUSE of the inclusion of abilities, even small shit like plasma grenades on Dire Avengers (most broken skill in the game imo, because it's F R E E)

One plasma nade can let your dire avengers win a fight with tac marines. If tac marines have plasma guns, THOSE GRENADES OVERHEAT THE PLASMA GUNS, stopping you from doing any damage at all. Meanwhile if orkz want stikkbombs, its a scrap upgrade, and an army doctrine. If tac marines want nades its an army doctrine, neither of their grenades cause overheating of Dire Avenger guns, and the tac rine nade does 0 damage so its less than worthless. At least stikkbombs do a ton of damage.

>>376040820
Well it DOES look somewhat fun, even if I would have prefered something more along the lines of an improved, expanded elite mod.
But I don't really want to buy a game which has a dead community on 4chan.

>>376041017
Name one 40k vidya game that doesn't have a very small/dead community, on 4chins or otherwise.

>>376041017
Personally, even though I just posted fucking 2000 words saying it's not great, I love the game. It's fun, it's hilarious playing the shitty early game and winning by outsmarting orkz who just blob 3 boyz and 2 shootas, and outsmarting eldar who just spam 6 howling banshees jain zar and 2 DAs.

Then the fucking Knight Paladin is by far the most fun goddamn unit in this entire game holy fucking shit I love it so much.

The only way they could make this game better for me personally is adding Tau. Like the archetypes are literally all there too. Your 3-4 point elites can be shit like Fire Team Warrior Captains (like killteam Ironmaw, etc) and some named units, that Stealth Suit slut for example. Your higher 6-8 point elites can be Crisis Battlesuit teams, Commander Farsight and shit. Your 10 point is a Riptide Battlesuit, 9 point a Krootox or something. I think adding Tau/SoB/Nids is far smarter than just adding Chaos or IG first again.

As to the mods, you can make maps at least. Tons on the workshop already. A lot of them are from the shitters who hate the tower mechanic and just dont put the towers on the map so you basically play Annihilation. Maybe we'll see conversion mods and such later?

>>376041323
DoW 1 still has a consistent core releasing fuck huge mods and i usually see games up on the steam version.

I have no idea how many people are playing vermintide but i never have trouble finding a group in seconds.

Dead should mean no players.

>>376029558
yeah but small minded normies bitch because muh relatability when sci fi takes place from an alien point of view.

not that 40k aliens are really all that alien...

>>376041323
I haven't ever paid attention to the 4chan communities of the previous games.
But having a commuity as active as the Dominions 4 one, is the bare minimum if you want to be able to have a discussion.
The community of DoW3 Retribution: Elite Mod was nice though. You could stop by in their TS any evening and play games with them.

>>376041392
Well, they aren't exactly known for making well balanced games at launch. Hopefully they will fix it in time.

>>376034918
SoB power armor will never not be hilarious.

it's so fucking terrible.

>>376041642
They've already announced like two patches in the works, including a balance patch where they specifically mentioned that Tac marines are really weak and people are just skipping buying them.

I mean, these are the same remnants that worked on CoH2, which was kinda eh at launch and got good then got DLC then got like two major rebalance/rework patches and even though its still "dead" by normie standards the game is pretty alive and doing alright.

>>376041662
t. sjw

>>376023226
Dawn of War 1 was a clusterfuck. It was a decent game and a good start for the series, but the balance and mechanics were all over the place. Dawn of War 2 was a much tighter, focused, and more competitive game than the first. People mostly like DoW1 for the big number of races and "muh scale".

DoW3 is off to a bad start but I think it's salvageable. I'm having fun with it, but it's definitely the worst of three.

>>376041881
I have no idea why people even consider dow2 a game. you're clicking one unit's cooldowns constantly with minimal interaction or decision making.

But then I always thought moba's were shit too.

>>376041662
power armor in 40k is pretty terrible in general, but that visual humor is lost on me, so all I see in 40k is grimdarkness with only Orks as a humorous contrast.

>>376041662
go hang yourself /tumblr/

So are the Tau gonna ally with Rowboat and his crew?

>>376042071
You need Ciaphas Cain and The Redeemer.

>>376015119
EPECЬ!

>>376042005
DoW2 is basically just CoH for 40k. If you think you don't need to make use of cover and unit upgrades I can't see how you could have beaten the game.

>>376041505
>>376041642
Dead is a matter of perspective. Warcraft3 is basically a dead game by most standards, but it has way more players than DoW1.

>>376042005
What? That's not even accurate. Positioning and unit choice are MUCH more important in DoW2 than they are in 1. Suppression is also a much more in-depth and consistent mechanic than morale was in the first game.

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>>376041818
>>376042174
at least the old design actually kinda looked like plate armor instead of some weird skin-tight metal sardine can with boob cutouts.

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>>376038107
Old soviet chainsaw. Just maymays.

>>376042071
OI WOT WE GUNNA DO ON DA BED BOSS

My complaint about power armor is they make a big deal about how ceramite is so hard to damage and how its like half a meter thick and needs the black carapace plugged into the power pack to move it and shit.

But lit every fucking weapon in the universe can seem to destroy it. Yeah orkz are roided out mushrooms with magical powers of the warp, but his choppa is still just a sharp hunk of metal. Bolters make sense damaging it, cuz they are like 65 calibre bullets that EXPLODE. Lasguns though? IG should not even be able to do anything to power armor. At all. Nor should most eldar weapons, namely shuriken weapons. And then there's terminator armor which is the exact same shit but thicker and somehow its like 8 times as durable, even outisde the fact that they have mini void shields in them or whatever.

>>376021189

Why dont you stick to neogaf then?

>>376042331
Those seem so minor as to be barely worth mentioning. Here is a slightly darker circle that increases your defense. Here is the same list of upgrades you will click every time.

Not exactly in depth stuff my man. Not once in any play though of any of the dow2 campaigns did i think I was making decisions. Maybe during equipment? But that was mostly trying to figure out what stats translated out to.

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>>376015119
damn she's a qt

>>376042616
>campaignfag thinking singleplayer is anything more than sidetrack

Oh, that explains everything.

By 2020 DoW3 will probably be a good game when it gets a complete edition for 20 bucks during a Steam sale

>>376021882
its power armor, it moves itself.

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>Be Games Workshop
>Mass Produce Warhammer titles with no quality assurance
>Think this will make your brand well known
>Fail to realize it will make it well known as garbage.

>>376015119
is that a transmarine? wouldn't that be fine is it was a slaanesh chaos marine though?

>>376042616
>slightly darker circle that increases your defense

Did you even play the game? Those were called craters and gave obvious indications as to why you get half cover for it.

That "same list of upgrades" were match dependant. You wouldn't buy flamers on tac marines every game but you sure fucking would if you were fighting orks or nids.

>he's comparing the fucking campaign to the play experience of the game

Yeah tell me how you had to make hard decisions in DOW1 campaigns when you started a level with 4 fucking units in the first 3 seconds because you took some special vanguard heros and you spawn with your hero and you could literally win games before the 3 minute mark by walking into the enemy base before the first unit was produced. Real decision making there buddy.

If you don't like DoW2 fine, but don't make shit up because you're too retarded to say WHY you actually don't like it.

>>376042768
Oh god, I had no idea i was talking to a filthy multiplayer deviant. Just... scoot over there. We don't need your kind sullying good games with your moba horseshit.

>>376015119
The Imperium has socialized all means of production, it's communism.

>>376041881
>and more competitive game
who gives a fucking shit

fucking hell you e-sportsfags need to fucking burn alive

>>376037325
>The customization is absolutely needed imo, because as a rule most of ST won't be picking up enemy weaponry
That's one of those things you probably should allow for better gameplay. Of course, not every enemy drops useful weapons...
>Wolf2009
I loved that game, but I loved it in spite of regen health mechanics. Mostly because the guns were so damn cool and so were some of the enemies. I think straight up jelly-in-your-eyes regen mechanics can work in an FPS, but Call of Duty, the first game to do so, also did it best - you are really fragile but so are your enemies, so it's very fast-paced and the difficulty is balancing pushing (and you need to, since enemies respawn) and not dying. A game where you kill limited amount of enemies will devolve into shoot-cover-shoot, but in CoD you have to push, sometimes using stuff like smoke and flash grenades, sometimes more gimmicky things like Predator drone strikes in MW2.

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>There hasn't been a single successful 40k games in ye-

>>376042794
yeah, same as every other DoW. It is just a shame newfriends don't remember how shitty all DoW releases have been.

Makes me feel old as fuck considering Dark Crusade or Soulstorm was the first DoW game for many people.

>>376042907
>>he's comparing the fucking campaign to the play experience of the game
Just imagine the type of filthy mongrel who typed this out is allowed to breath the same air as you. Disgusting isn't it.

Seriously you double nigger, the campaign isn't the 'play experience'? Get fucked you're why we are dealing with this shit in dow3. Enjoy your skulls.

>>376043067
>Average players last 30 days: 159.1
>successful
L O L

crying internally

>>376043276

But it's mostly a singleplayer game anon

>>376043090
>yeah, same as every other DoW. It is just a shame newfriends don't remember how shitty all DoW releases have been.

They haven't been shitty but they haven't been any sort of second coming.
And DoW3 is completely no different a 7/10, just like DoW and DoW2, possibly amazing after an expansion or two.

>>376043067
the game that reminds you that despite how cool that one design looks, all of them fucking look like that.

>>376043402
Well, they ripped them off of one painting in particular.
Of course there's not going to be much variety coming from a single plagiarized sci-fi painting back in the day.

>>376042540
Lasguns are actually alright outside of memes and Eldar shurikens are some monomolecular bullshit IIRC.

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>>376043402

But gothic cathedral battleships with over a million people as crew are pretty cool

>>376043343
and civ 5 get 30 000 concurrent players

>>376043101
My gripe with the DoW3 campaign is fucking Rohnan can get to level 7 in one mission but taking Gabriel on all 5 only nets him like level 3.

Also the final mission is total shit, as is the fact that you can't pick your elites. If you could use the campaign to level elites that suck ass (LOOKING AT YOU ASSAULT TERMINATORS) it'd be ok. But don't fucking try to ride your high-horse saying that you bought a fucking RTS for the campaign.

That's like buying a Pokemon game for the sick trading forums. What is literally like 5% of the game.

>>376043545
CiV is a TBS, BFG:A is an RTS.
TBS >>> RTS in player base, it's always been like that.

>>376043545

Well, Civ V is a massive game that even normies know of. For a Warhammer game made by a smallish studio, 300k sales is not bad(according to steamspy)

>>376042540
1 lasgun is going to do jackshit. 10 lasguns might. 100 of them is definitely doing something. The power of lasguns is in sheer numbers.

>>376043557
You vastly underestimate how many RTS players are fans of single player, or casual matches with friends.

You vastly overestimate how many people care about the e-sports multiplayer cpm horseshit some titles have evolved into.

Some people just like playing games like Supreme Commander without having to deal with korean autists who have memorized build lists.

>>376043346
Yeah, just have to wait for expansions just like other DoW games.

>>376043772
You see I want to agree with you but canonically even if you shoot 10 lasguns at a space marine you should not even hurt the ceramite. Maybe if all 10 IG shot the exact same spot at the exact same time. But that wont happen because IG would be shitting themselves panic shooting. Like shooting a rock with a laser 10 times is not going to suddenly melt or explode the rock, especially because even ignoring the memes in canon lasguns are not pinpoint master weapons of perfect destruction. If it were then IG would be the best nid killers in the universe cuz you could just shoot them in the head and kill them.
>>376043935
And that means Dawn of War 3 is the best fucking fit. Have you played the game? It's so casual it's not even funny. There isn't even an early or mid game you can literally do whatever you want and if a tryhard is going to win you will see it at the 20 minute mark when he drops his 10 point elite and walks out his 250 population meta army.

The tower meme is a hot joke no less, you can take towers before escalation phase 2 if you're smart about it. Two tactical marines, Gabriel Angelos, and a land speeder can take out a tower before the 10 minute mark. People just want to find things to complain about for the sake of complaining, it's the world we've lived in since like 2012.

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>>376015119
I'm trying to stop using this board, someone should replace me for the bingo
so far I only managed to reduce my /v/ consumption, but because of 8th edition I use /tg/ more than before,
almost evening it out. This place is hell

>>376040820
Stikkbombs are not a doctrine. The doctrine you are talking about just allows shootas to auto-cast that ability when in range.

>>376044332
"Its a scrap upgrade, AND an army doctrine"

Selective reading at it's finest.

>>376043935
This is sad truth and reason why so many people moved from RTS to ASSFAGGOTS.
Don't think GW will ever allow anyone to make a expansive TBS 40k game because it would make their tabletop game obsolete.

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>>376038148
>what was Stalin
>what is North Korea

Though I agree, it's far from being communist. Imperium is simply an autocracy

>>376044430
And you do not need the latter. No need to get upset.

>>376044328
I think there has been a point where that bingo becomes less relevant and we've passed that 5 days ago.

>>376044328
Same here, anon. Seriously considering just playing tabletop when 8th comes out.
Maybe this was GW's master plan all along with allowing developers to make mediocre games.

>>376044532
You still miss the entire point that DA's get plasma grenades for free, no upgrade, no power, no doctrine.

Space Marines require an entire army doctrine to get it, it doesn't do any damage at all (you actually lose dps for throwing it than if you just shot bolters) and the knockdown has little purpose because it lets DA guns cooldown letting them outdamage you, it doesnt do anything to orkz, and a scout squad + blind grenade is far better investment.

Orkz meanwhile have to spend 200 req to even make the building, 350 req on the shootas, 150 req and 75 power to make a waaagh tower, then wait 30 seconds for ONE piece of scrap to get stikkbombs. They're useable, but DA are 330 req done, Shootas are 800 scrap and over a minute of waiting around (build time plus scrap time) for a grenade that does ok damage but has little use outside of that, hence needing the doctrine to make it worth the investment of scrap.

There is plenty of reason to get upset.

>>376044274
>canonically even if you shoot 10 lasguns at a space marine you should not even hurt the ceramite
I am REALLY not sure where are you getting this shit from especially since canon on 40k power levels is uneven as fuck and some sources show their stuff being massively inferior to the stuff we currently have.
>Like shooting a rock with a laser 10 times is not going to suddenly melt or explode the rock
In some canon lasguns are strong enough to blow limbs off of Orks.

>>376039202
Fomer: Belisarus Cawl
Latter: still dying, dead immortal and all that.

>>376044882
Destroy another Waggh tower or a webway gate and you don't need to spend the req for Waaagh towers. Even so, you need your own towers anyways to tech up.

One of the nice things about orcs is that there is no research time for scap upgrades, if you win a fight with buildings or vehicles involved its free upgrades for the army. The healing scrap doctrine helps replienish as well. The biggest mistake is waiting on scrap to fall to equip an army - orks should take it from the enemy.

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>>376015119
>tfw no Left40kDead featuring Ciaphas Cain, Jurgen, Amberly and Sulla

I like Dawn of War 3

>>376031793
>most balaned Dawn of War game to date.
[eldar teleporting in the distance]

>>376043090
>>376043346

Nah, Dawn of Eldar was pretty ""revolutionary"" back in the day:
- It was graphically impressive (and demanding) for a RTS at the time. Very detailed models and fantastic animations. In the end WC3 had better art direction and ran on toasters, though.
- The resource points and squad mechanics were pretty underused in an age saturated with Ensemble Studio and Blizzard imitators. I think Relic stole those from Ground Control, but I wouldn't know because I never played it. The cover and specially the morale mechanics worked fantastically well on a 40k game, too.
- The campaign made everyone cringe because it had a bunch of stupid shit but was enjoyable enough

DoW2 brought a shitstorm but was still a high quality product nonetheless

>>376045385
Yes because you're going to destroy an enemy vehicle or building (power generators dont count, nor do listening posts) in the first 3 minute of the game when you build a shoota. Like are you even? Who cares if you need the tower to tech up, or that if you lose one it doesn't cost resources the second time. You're missing the entire fucking point.

>>376042347
I was talking from a 4chan general perspective.
And yes, having like 50 posts over a 10 hour timespan is pretty weak.

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>>376045516
Why is Lucius so happy?

>>376045552
It helped that they had absolutely top notch VA work that made even slog matches bearable.
Honestly, no RTS can really match DoW for voice acting, except maybe WC3

>>376037785
RTS
Warhammer

>It's a niche game about a niche subgame from a niche franchise
Next you'll be asking why armoured core 4 online is dead

>>376045742
Cuz he's gay. Literally.

>>376045742
Why wouldn't he be? He lives, he dies, he lives again.

>>376045742
He feeds on our suffering.

>>376045516
Warhammer Fantasy got a pretty great Left4Dead reskin called Vermintide.

>>376021189
kys, Stacy

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>>376045742
Because, unless Abaddon/Fulgrim tells him otherwise, he gets to do quite literally whatever the fuck he wants with absolutely no consequences.
He's probably the happiest mortal in the galaxy

>>376045552
You are looking at it through rose-tinted glasses and this is exactly what I was talking about.
Both DoW1&2 were riddled with bugs, shitty pathing and more.
By the way, remember how DoW2 was released with 5 multiplayer maps? 2 for 1v1.

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>>376030536
>but tau aren't communist

>>376046080
Name one Communist quality that the Tau have.

>>376045757
>It helped that they had absolutely top notch VA work

Can't beat the ponies, man.

>>376046224
Heh.

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>You will always be too poor to play real 40K

>>376015119
>Space Marine
>Failure

if Eternal Crusade was running on the Space Marine engine then it'd be so much better

>>376046290
It's a horrible game, anon.

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>>376034759
>objective: survive: the game
Yes please.

>>376046324
>if Eternal Crusade was running on the Space Marine engine

Wasn't that game just Unreal Engine 3?

>>376046350
Nah, 8E is coming.

>>376046350
Not with 8th edition, but it remains to be seen of course.

>>376046350
Yeah but I've always wanted to play a miniature based wargame and it's got the strongest art direction.

>>376046428
It is actually running on tears and anguish of early supporters/backers

>>376016383
motherfucker do you know how much dick I would suck for a red orchestra clone featuring the IG vs orcs/chaos guard/tyranids? Bonus points if the classes include very limited amounts of SPESS MEHRINES etc as special call ins or something

Guess I'm just waiting for the arma mod to be updated in the meantime.

>>376034918
The original ones where much better than second ones though.

This is coming from someone who played 2 first.

>>376046182
Anyone who isn't an ethereal is a ethereal slave.
And they accept it.

>>376016383
>imperial faggots game
>spawn in
>unload lasgun into opponent
>it does nothing and u die
wow that was fun

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I feel like I made a mistake.

>>376046805
>hellguns, heavy stubbers, plasma cannons, flamers, grenade launchers

>>376015119
> Warhammer
> Video games

Pick one, you're not getting both.

Warhammer is meant to be Wargamed at a tabletop.

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>>376039307
I like it

>>376046805
There are things to fight than daemons and chaos space marines, anon

>>376046750
Thats literally the opposite of communism.

>>376042005
Go ahead and watch one of Indird's casts on youtube.
Elite mod is pretty deep and a good competitive game.

>>376046860
>He didn't watch gameplay videos or play the beta
If you didn't see or expect warcraft3-lite, then you only have yourself to blame.

>>376046750
Sounds like Communism to me
>All Tau are equal, but some Tau are more equal than others ;)

>>376047148
>All Tau are equal
they have literal castes you idiot

>>376046946
>nun-poster likes autistic cartoon
I am not surprised.

>>376047148
meant for
>>376047034

>>376047105
I did play the beta. But then the campaign is a snore and mp gets tiring quickly.
I wanna say that DLC will fix it, but then you're just paying for shit that should've been in the game from the start. Oh well.

>>376043067
>persistent upgrades in mutiplayer, to favour whoever has played the longest
>single player campaign are just skirmish battles agains the AI and only for one faction
Yeah nah, it was decent, but not great.
Price was fair at least.

The brass at GW needs to change. They've made the decision to lease out the IP like a two-bit whore, when in reality they should go back to giving it out very sparingly and having ridiculously strict quality standards. The first two Dawn of Wars and Space Marine were made during such administration and they were good games.

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>no straight up meaty shooter where you play as a Space Marine, but it's actually good and has a budget behind it
>no survival horror game where you play as an Inquisitorial Stormtrooper
>no Warhammer Fantasy RPG where play as a Witch Hunter, taking spooky vampire hunting contracts from burgomeisters and being sent on covert missions by the Imperial Army to root out enemy agents

>>376047321
>Warhammer Fantasy
LOL

>>376047278
Well yeah, welcome to DoW games. This is literally how release of DoW1/2 went.
Wait for expansions/fixes for that retarded mp meta.

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>>376047321
>Human
>Human
>Human.

>>376047317
>he didn't see how much shit all of those games got when they were released
I wish I was as young as you

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>>376039307

Do Space Marines ever leave their armor?

>>376046890
all of which are weaker than your basic astartes-pattern bolter

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Bring THQ back from the dead and have them make Space Marine 2. Titus did nothing wrong.

>>376044487
It's more like feudalism desu. The Administratum only cares that you provide tithes of resources (material, human, etc) and to a lesser degree that you worship the god-emperor; the Ecclesiarchy/Inquisition deal with the whole heresy bit more.
Depending on how much they care about your world (spoiler: not much unless you're on the front line, have some rare resource/industry, were recently conquered, or are unlucky) they'll let the governor do whatever as long as he meets the previous requirements

>>376047731
why? space marine 1 was fucking terrible, gears of war style gameplay is awful

>>376047730
>plasma cannon
>weaker than bolter
Stop posting any time.

>>376046860
Im liking it, the more I play it. Fuck /v/ desu.

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>>376047467
>I'm one of those people who can't enjoy any game with other races unless I'm playing as one of those races
>nevermind that there's different factions, ideologies, alignments, powers, cybernetics, and even mutations in every different human faction
>No I NEED to be playing as the human with hooves and blue skin, or pointy ears or it's a shit game
Well, here you go

>>376047721
Yeah, but Im pretty sure they dont have to.

Daily reminder that in a parallel universe Warhammer 40k had a successful MMORPG tie-in, became a cultural phenomenon and had a not-dogshit CGI movie based on one of the better Black Library storylines

>>376047857
>Space Marine
>Gears of War style gameplay
How wrong can one man be. Space Marine encouraged you to go balls deep in melee combat every time, and taking cover like a bitch only made it so you couldn't heal at all. The only similarities are power armor and a third person perspective.

>>376047721
yes. They're genetically modified out the ass and are hard to kill even outside of the armor.

>>376048043
No it didn't, it's too edgy and nerdy.

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>>376047731
>Muh Ultramarines: The Game

>>376047467
Please kill yourself you pathetic race traitor.

>>376047979
Man, I played that when I was young and bad at videogames and it felt hard as khorne's balls

>>376047857
>Hey look, a chest-high wall
>Titus just slams through it to take on the nearest horde of greenskins in melee with a chain weapon that was a thing in the franchise before Gears of War was even thought about

Man yeah, those gears of war vibes were real

>>376047979
that game was ass though

>>376047893
>requires deployment and making the unit immobile to fire
>pathetically easy to dodge, the only targets you can reliably hit are low-mobility vehicles, which a plasma cannon doesn't do a lot of damage to, compared to a bolter which can be loaded with kraken, bloodshard, scorpius, tempest, or vengeance rounds which all fuck up armor much more than a plasma cannon

you are obviously a secondary who has never played tabletop 40k

>>376048051
>Space Marine encouraged you to go balls deep in melee combat every time
yeah, just like gears of war with the chainsaws..... it's a shit game, just admit you like shit games and move on, matt ward.

>>376048106
Name a better WH40K game that has come out since.

>>376048031
>>376048075
So out of the millions of different forms of media, its never exactly showed it? I know theres been some before they were recruited into a Chapter but thats about it.

But I suppose theres no reason to leave the armor. Their day consists of going battle to battle and purging heretics.

>>376046290
Try out Sanctus Reach

>>376048313
Space Marine rocked ass. I don't know what you're on about

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>>376048313
>Taking cover in GoW keeps you alive, rushing out gets you killed
>Taking cover in Space Marine gets you killed, rushing out keeps you alive
The exact opposite. What are you on about

>>376048335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjaYW5Cnr5k

>>376046182
uh, literally have the means of production owned by the state (ethereals) along with everybody buying into the hivemind ideology that is to fight for the "greater good". Ringing any bells yet?

>>376048051
Try playing on highest difficulty or multiplayer and see how not using cover goes for you.

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>>376048476
>Taking cover in GoW keeps you alive
lol i have literally only played one gears of war game for 15 minutes and i know that you're lying, otherwise they wouldn't all have CHAINSAWS ON THEIR GUNS SPECIFICALLY FOR CLOSING TO MELEE SINCE ALL ENEMIES ARE BULLET SPONGES, EVEN IF YOU SHOOT THEM IN THE HEAD

try again tomorrow, poor troll

>>376048335
it's described in detail in the books,but in vidya there's no reason to have naked marines so it never gets mentioned

>>376048335
>So out of the millions of different forms of media, its never exactly showed it

A shitton of novels and short stories describe how marines do shit outside their armor. Salamanders for example constantly get tattoos chronicling their feats and history and work in their forges in nothing but a loincloth.

>>376048313
>Matt ward
Nice reply, I can pirate 1d4chan too

>>376048335
They have exlicitly shown it. They're covered in plugs because underneath their skin theres something called the "Black Carapace" which directly connects their nervous system to their power armor. Grey Knights also got giant dicks according to an Inquisition Novel.

>>376048335
I know a lot of people shit on the books for the author and the content, but Uriel Ventris of the Ultramarine Omnibus 1+2 (Fuck remembering all of those titles) spent a lot of time outside his armor on a chaos world.

I mean, they really don't have to leave their armor cuz they're supposed to be always ready or whatever thanks Codex Astartes. They look like normal humans, if normal humans were 8 foot 6 and 488 pounds of muscle and black carapace under their skin so they got a lot of little plugs all over them (or so most depictions say/show). Most all of their modifications are internal, the third lung, second stomach, second heart, etc etc.

In games? Nothing. Movies? Some have them putting on their armor in a locker room.

>>376048217
I actually confused Plasma Cannon and Plasma Gun, the latter are used both by IG and SMs. SMs use flamers, too, so I guess those do have some advantage over bolters. None of the above holds any meaning though, as a video game creators would be free to modify the effects and balance of the weapons the way they see, as long as it's not too stupid.
>you are obviously a secondary who has never played tabletop 40k
No shit, this is /v/, not /tg/. Anyway, from what I saw of TT rules they aren't really 100% fluff accurate.

>>376048576
>lol i have literally only played one gears of war game for 15 minutes and i know that you're lying

..You realize you've just shot yourself in the foot with that right? You're basing your statements on playing a game for 15 minutes.

>>376048576
>plays for 15 minutes and considers himself expert
>calls others trolls
try playing either of those games on highest difficulty and see how far it gets you.

>>376048654
what the fuck is 1d4chan? are you really this much of a secondary? Matt Ward created the entire ultramarines and wrote the ultramarines codex. Have you even played a single game of tabletop 40k in your life?