>want to play Metal Gear Solid 5 >Haven't played other

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>>376012836
play other games beforehand or you wont be able to come back to them because of controls

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>want to play Metal Gear Solid 5

>>376012903
I suppose you'd rather me play anime game 9000, hikikomori edition?

>>376013104
I bought and played MGSV, and I want my fucking money back.

What a filler piece of shit with mute characters. Literally the best part of the game is only the first and last mission.

sleep on the beach

>>376013293
But anon, they don't do that anymore.

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>>376012836
>How do I remedy this?
...you...play the other MGS games?
If you're totally on the edge about the SERIES, just emulate MGS1 first. Or grab it from PSN store for few bucks.

That being said, you'll save yourself from a lot of hassle if you just grab a cheap PS3 + the MGS Legacy Collection, which has the WHOLE canon series before V. That's eight games in total.

Play in release order! It is a must. Check any and all backstory stuff in MGS1's main menu there is, and spam your Codec too.

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>>376013104
>jokes about animu games
>wants to play "It's just like muh Japanese anime!" -the series
you really don't know what you're signing up for? I bet you'll be finding MGS "too cringy" or some shit in no time.

>>376013104
>anime game 9000
But that's literally what MGS series is (at least story and characters wise).

>>376013880
I've seen the hype and release on /v/ when it came out so I have a decent idea. Honestly its the gameplay of MGS 5 that draws me in. Looks like the best stealth game in a long time.

>want to play the only mgs that isnt really an mgs game and sucks dicks
>dont want to play the good games

Op a faggot once again

>>376014015
MGS5 is controversial for many reasons, but one thing that ticks off especially us old-fag fans is the way how V was turned into super generic, open-world SHOOTER. If you want to have any kind of excitement and stealth, you really have to discipline yourself from going all out and just popping everyone's head from a mile away. Or taking a fucking tank to enemy base and letting it rip. The fact that you got ye basic regenerating health now + tons of literally empty space around you don't help the ride either.

So yeah, the hands-on controls of Snake are great and you got lots of seeming freedom, but the gameplay itself in whole? A real slog, especially towards the end.

And like said, one of the MGS series' big attractions, and sort-of curses too, is the fact that the story progresses linearly throughout the whole series. If you have not played the past games in release order, too bad! Kojibro won't stop to explain the basics for you.

gybe ruined postrock

Emulate 1-3 and the psp games if you want, watch 4 on youtube. Otherwise if you have a ps3, get the collection.

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>>376014015

The chief problem with MGS 5, among many, is that it attempts to emulate Snake Eater and does a terrible job.

It got the "you are infiltrating a foreign place with lots of foliage" part down, but the levels in Snake Eater were deliberately designed and pretty universally well done. MGS 5 only pursues the superficial aspects and doesn't design its levels well, throwing random piles of fucking shit in a landscape with some soldiers and then asks you to do the same few tasks over and over.

It also tried to make the story epic in the worst possible ways. Kojima is the world's biggest ham and it doesn't surprise me he tried to pack the story with melodrama and sad music and scowling handsome men, but none of it is very cohesive and it's hard to give too much of a shit about any of it. By the time the intro is done you're so exhausted you're begging the game for some staple MGS levity and it never arrives, it's just more and more drama and shit you can barely care about. Snake Eater had drama and it had characters you care about, but it wasn't convoluted or serious 100% of the time. It felt like a video game by offering cool video game stuff to do and not staring at its own belly button, only occasionally stopping to talk about nuclear weapons and Cold War paranoia.

>>376014664
>it attempts to emulate Snake Eater

what, no it doesn't...

>>376014618
>watch 4 on youtube
this shitty meme

mgs4 is a great game
it just has a shitload of cutscenes

>>376012836
Don't just play it, mgs story is a joke

>>376014739
>muh Big Boss
>muh retro war
>muh weapon I gotta stop
>constant constant constant callbacks to MGS3

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>>376014664
>I never changed my loadout: The post

>>376014806
reading comprehension much?
MGS3, and all the PS2 games to that matter, emulate like ass, even today.

>>376014806
wtf I hate mgs5 now

>>376014812

The game piles on toys because the levels don't change. That's not exactly revolutionary or good game design.

https://youtu.be/c7alPXhmmPo

>>376014853

He doesnt mean that kind of emulate you retarded spic. Giving South America internet was a mistake

>>376014885
that's not bad game design, that's just how it was designed. The levels don't change, but they're huge and sprawling while the various different tools make it so that there's always tons of options to approach a situation.

>>376012836
The story is almost nonexistent and isn't an important part of the series' overall story. You shouldn't have much trouble if you just play GZ first

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>>376012836
>want to play Metal Gear Solid

I would stop at this point. The whole series is over-hyped garbage.
Stealth is shit due to dumb AI and every game in the series has a story that starts off great, however turns to diarrhea because of Kojimas shit writing and story telling

>>376015010

Yes, the same situation on the same map. This is the problem.

>>376014421
why would you post this

right as I'm listening to gybe for the first time in years.

>>376012836
You must be seriously fucking braindead if you actually think you needed to ask this question. Play the other games first, and while you're at it skip MGSV. It is by far the shittiest Metal Gear, the story is downright awful and it's loaded to the brim with filler bullshit. Afghanistan and Central Africa are both completely empty, all they have are the occasional enemy outposts, and Mother Base has even less content while taking a fucking year to navigate.

Oh you wanted to see what happens after Sahelanthropus? Enjoy replaying a lot of old shitty missions but with extra handicaps in order to unlock the "true" (see: still incomplete) ending. Fuck this game, and fuck Kojima. If he wanted to kill the series off, he got his fucking wish.

>>376015078
what the heck are you talking about?

>>376014754
I agree but what are you suppose to do if you don't have a ps3?

>>376015136
MGSV is the best game in the series though.

>>376015010
the level design IS bad though

>>376015140

Rather than a wealth of toys and well-designed levels with purpose (Snake Eater), MGS V includes a wealth of toys and throws you into the same level several times in a row.

>>376015160
Don't play it then, fucking duh.

>>376015178
Defend your claim. I gave my opinion as to why the game is dogshit, now give yours.

>>376015206
not enough linear hallways with scripted goofs?

>>376012836
>>want to play Metal Gear Solid 5
>>Haven't played other MGS games
>
>How do I remedy this?
kill yourself

>tfw never played any metal gear games
>tfw don't understand jokes and memes

>>376015236
MGSV has at LEAST the same amount of map as Snake Eater though

>>376015260
I don't think the game is dogshit. Also you just whined about the story; sounds like you didn't get it.

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>>376015271
>good levels are wide open ones with enemies randomly thrown around
>fuck patrol patterns or recognizable locations or environment hazards specifically designed to be new and interesting or differing objectives

You killed the MGS series more than Konami did

>>376015271
not him, but empty open world is the absolutely laziest "level design" there is.

>>376015271
nothing in MGSV managed to live up to camp omega
and that's because of the shitty open world focus
i'd rather have a well designed closed off space than a generic open space

>>376012836
Honestly, OP, you don't really need to play the rest in the series, just the PSP games and, if you can get it to work, MGS3 though that's not entirely necessary.

PPSSPP works great, and the upscaling looks gorgeous

>>376015352

MGS V has one map: a wide open free roam pile of shit. Snake Eater has actual levels you can go back to and think "oh yeah I remember this." To claim they're alike is retarded.

>>376012836
You made a mistake asking here OP, /v/ is full of contrarians. Play the other 4 main titles games in release order and Peace Walker if you really want to. If you choose to skip these games then be prepared for nothing in V to make sense but it's a great series that you should get into if you can deal with the dated controls

>>376015352
>at LEAST the same amount of map as Snake Eater
The game was literally advertised as having the biggest map in the series, and all it was (predictably) was two different maps, both of which were giant wastelands with a few outposts and empty villages sprinkled around.

Open world is the single worse cancer killing vidya.

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What has my thread devolved into.

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>>376012836
>I want to play a very good video game

Metal Gear Solid 3

>I want to play a very good video game that feels dated and is hard to appreciate anymore

Metal Gear Solid

>I want to play a reasonable video game with a ton of emphasis on interesting plot

Metal Gear Solid 2

>I want to play a video game that tries to be a movie and fails in every possible aspect

Metal Gear Solid 4

>I want to play a video game that tries to be a Batman: Arkham City but at least it looks pretty

Metal Gear Solid 5

>>376015418
I will admit that TPP wasn't cinematic like CO, but CO was just one level with less then a fraction of the stuff to do. MGSV is still a great game though.

>i'd rather have a well designed closed off space than a generic open space
why? How is the open space in V considered generic?

>>376015439
Snake Eater's levels aren't comparable in size dude, suck a dick.

>>376015507
I mean you're not wrong but that doesn't say why the game would be shit.

>>376015537
You got a bunch of reasons as to why you are a fucking idiot for having to ask what you should do if you want to play the latest game in a long series of games, and why the game you specifically want to play is the worst in the series.

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>>376012836
>2017
>>/v/
>Haven't played other MGS games
kys, kid

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>>376015559
>MGSV tries to be like BAMHAM

you're delusional.

>>376015559
>game that feels dated and is hard to appreciate anymore
>Metal Gear Solid
Fuck your shit. I started playing the series for the first time back in 2012, and MGS1 is still a fucking top-notch game in the series AND in vidya's entire history.


>game with a ton of emphasis on interesting plot
>Metal Gear Solid 2
oh wait, you're just one of those neo-MGS2-fags

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>>376015604
>muh size

Nobody is arguing that, you professional semen collector. We're arguing that Snake Eater has better-designed levels because they have actual design incorporated into them. They are constructed with purpose and direction. They are not open world hovels for literal bonobos like you to whoop and holler around in like a playpen.

>>376015687
>We're arguing that Snake Eater has better-designed levels because they have actual design incorporated into them. They are constructed with purpose and direction.

ok, that doesn't say why the open world is shit though, I mean your argument is literally "not linear so it's shit"

>>376015418
It's sad that GZ ended up being the better, both aesthetically and story-wise, than what was advertised as the most intense and mature Metal Gear to date. GZ actually related to the fucking plot at hand and had a very well designed map instead of introducing all this stupid shit about Venom Snake.

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>>376015687
>They are not open world hovels for literal bonobos like you to whoop and holler around in like a playpen.

settle down, spaz

>>376015775
>both aesthetically and story-wise
Sure but the gameplay in TPP is better.

>>376015768
He just gave you a pretty damn good reason you cocksucker. MGSV has a massive yet empty map with nothing but filler content. It's not that hard to grasp.

>>376015768
>that doesn't say why the open world is shit though,

It explains exactly why open world is bad.

>Snake Eater
>that level with Raikov and the scientists
>that level where you have to navigate a very dark cave
>that level with the food rations and attack chopper (both affecting later levels)
>that level with the crocodile lake
>that level in the sewers with dog patrols and only rats to eat

>MGS5
>that open world shithole with the russians
>that identical open world shithole with the africans

>>376015897
How is it filler though?

>>376015908
oh wow scripted events that play out the same every time!

>>376015962

how about doing the same asinine non-plot related mission ten times

>>376012885
>or you wont be able to come back to them because of controls
i went back to MGS1 few years ago
It's the first time i play MGS1 and the control din't bothered me at all, nor the graphic.
the game held up well enough i suppose.

>>376015604
>MGSV is still a great game though
i agree
i just think that instead of plastering bases across an open map MGSV would have been better if it had strong, recognisable set pieces like previous MGS
i got bored of going through the same bases

>>376015881
GZ is still the better overall game.

>>376015962
>muh outpost #1134243563
>muh enemy patrol #63645441
>not filler

Even better:
>Kill Sahelanthropus
>REPLAY OLD MISSIONS WITH ADDED HANDICAPS TO UNLOCK THE REST OF THE STORY

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>>376016019

Yeah crazy, it's almost as if they're levels in a video game and not a tech demo!

>>376016027
The game is huge dude and those missions were designed to be replayable thanks to the open world and to feed into the FOB system

>>376012836
Skip MGSV and play all the previous ones, thank me later

>>376016095
>>muh outpost #1134243563
>muh enemy patrol #63645441
>not filler

>muh hallway #1134243563
>muh scripted event #63645441
come on, dude

>>376016123
>those missions were designed to be replayable

Then I guess they failed because I don't want to have to replay the exact same objective over and over in a map with nothing in it.

A good example of a properly done open world game would be GTA V, where you can tell pretty much every inch of that enormous world had someone consciously design it.

>>376015559
how is MGS2 a "reasonable videogame"?
i enjoyed the gameplay more than mgs3

>>376016110
I mean, if that's what you need in level design then that's your preference, but that doesn't argue that V had bad level design.

>>376016204
>muh hallway #1134243563
>muh scripted event #63645441
Yet those came with an actual story.

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>>376016204
>comparing a level consciously designed to be a certain way with a generated Skyrim dungeon with gun-toting slavs

You could post a screenshot of any level in MGS3 and probably be able to tell exactly what part of the game it is

Good luck doing that in MGS5

>>376016210
GTA V is a completely different type of game.

And MGSV wasn't procedurally generated, so...

>>376016305
>muh story
>mgs game

you have to be a literal teenager

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>>376016379

Metal Gear is one of the few series known for its story.

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>>376016317
>You could post a screenshot of any level in MGS3 and probably be able to tell exactly what part of the game it is

yes, the mark of good level design, right...

>>376016439
the story in V was fine you just didn't get it

>>376016439
Yeah it's known for being convoluted and retarded, it appeals to 15 year olds who watch anime. This is coming from someone who's played the series since 1 was released

>>376016379
>I play MGS for the gameplay!
>You play MGS for the story? Fucking teenager!
Have a nice summer

>>376016449

Hes right since you cant do that with 5

>>376016559
Learn to format your post so it's readable and try again, newfriend

>>376016449

You can't remember anything in MGS5 outside of the opening sequence most likely. The levels have zero design put into them whatsoever, they may as well be procedurally generated.

>>376016518
The story was retarded, even for Metal Gear standards

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>>376016564
Actually the areas in V are all pretty differentiable from one another, so it actually sould be possible to do it if you could wrap your head around a space that large

>>376016650
so shiny baubles and ornamentation is what you consider good level design?

>>376016827
yes

>>376016731
a little underwritten maybe but still pretty good. I do hate how they gutted Miller's character though I guess they do have a good reason for it

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>>376016827

I think gassing people with no reasoning skills like you would be good level design

>>376016917
you know that's uncalled for dude. If you're gonna be a little baby then you should probably just stop posting

>>376016970
>someone replies to you a few times explaining why something is good
>you have less reasoning skills than a chimp so you try to boil it down into something retarded that he did not say

I agree, let's just gas you.

>>376017038
>get BTFO
>start crying and wishing death on the other person

sad!

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>>376017193
man what a baby

>>376016902
>defending an unfinished game

>>376017769
cut content =/= unfinished

>>376017805
Yeah, they cut the rest of the story out.

>>376018152
Story seemed fine to me

>>376017193
I accept your concession

>>376015687
>They are not open world hovels for literal bonobos like you to whoop and holler around in like a playpen.
Holy shit

>>376013821
Portable Ops is canon, it's referenced in peace walker

>>376019087
ummmm

>>376012836
Stop giving a fuck and just play it

Go ahead anon, I played MGSV without playing the previous games and I did fine. I had no idea what the fuck was happening but the gameplay was fun.

>>376012836
play in release order you mongrel

>>376012836
https://www.youtube.com/user/KefkaProduction/search?query=metal+gear

Honestly though, while MGS5 has good gameplay, the story is very lacking and overall it's too repetetive and grindy.

The problem is that without knowing anything about the series the story won't do much for you but if you are familiar with the series you'll just be disappointed.

1-4 and the MSX games are all good, so just play them instead.

MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 >MGS5

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Simple answer.
Don't.
Play 1-4 and that's all you need.
Maybe rising if if you like Hack and Slash games.