>rage quttied after 3h of trying to beat this whore >so

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>>375978621

lol what a gay

>>375978621
>/v/ is bad at games
so nothing new?

>>375978772
Any advice except acquiring goodness?

Go level up
or

>first stage and second
>hug her ass, don't get hit
>third stage
>hug her ass, don't get hit, back off when you see that incredibly telegraphed spin attack

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Good Luck Anon

You can do it, anon.
Post your build and weapon.

>>375978621
Best girl can't be beat, you'll never break her spirit

Smack yourself in the face very time you die.

Hard.

seriously? i killed this dude on my first attempt but he nearly fucked me over.

Do you like... want help op? I can just pop on and kill her for you.

>>375978621
You know how she does nothing but strut around during the fight?
attack her during those moments
when she uzips the second sword, run because she starts off with her ebin spin2win

She's one of only about 3 of the tricky/hard bosses in DS3

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>>375978894
Well I'm using that huge sword.

>>375979001
>he

get gud

>>375979091
>using heavy str weapons in ds3

...OP... im sorry... your weapon fu's are dead.

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>>375978861
not him, but take a step back and analyze when an attack stops, what an enemy does before X attack or Y recovery.
a volatile method is to try to figure out when the model lands on your hitbox so you know when to dodge/block/parry.
Dancer for example spins a maximum of nine (ten) times before stopping unless you get hit or bait her out of it by hugging her model

Am i the only one who thinks weapon balance in DS3 is worse than the other games? it feels like a huge discrepancy between weapons in the same subtype

>>375979194
Why?

>>375979173
>has no style

>>375979091
Ahh, the memesword. A beginners classic.

>>375979194
>He doesn't swing Yhorm's with left hand and put literally anything in the right hand to win every duel

>>375979194
guess you havent been playing ds3 for a while now huh?

>>375978621
>go to sleep
>try tomorrow
>win at first try

works every time

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>mfw beat her on my 2nd try by spamming soul spear

equip the bloodring

>>375979091
even after the recent buff to all the big weapons this shit still has a terrible weight/damage ratio

>>375979249
My biggest problem is that I'm getting too nervous, and I can't focus on fight because of this.

>>375979531
>weight/damage ratio
>havel's ring +3
>ring of favor +3
>prisoner's chain

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>>375979426
>Playing Ng+
>She raped me over and over first time around
>kill her in seconds while taking almost no damage
Turns out Dancer is allergic to +10 great clubs

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>>375979560
you gotta zen it out. go with the flow of the fight.
if you get frustrated or annoyed just go outside or pace a bit. take a moment to reflect on why you lost or did what you did and do better.
or in other words:

>>375979669
That requires you to go into NG+ multiple times. What the hell are you supposed to use until you get all those rings, huh?

>>375978621
How essential is a controller to this game?

>>375978621
I have beat her before Vort before. 1 hit insta kill and the ability to hit through pillars was a pain.

>>375979862
>+3 rings
>NG+
stop posting about a game you haven't played

>>375979863
Mandatory

>>375979194

sweet summer child

>>375979873
How did you do that?

Just did both DLC's for the first time over the weekend

>Champion Gravetender and Wolf - 7/10
>Friede - 10/10

>Demon Prince(s) - 10/10
>Halflight - 5/10
>Gael - 10/10
>Midir - 9/10

i just wish there was more enemy variety and they were more interesting to fight in the DLCs.

>>375980024

Gitting gud.

Or bleed.

>>375979091

my nigga

>>375979343

>not using Zweihander, Greatsword and Ludwig's Holy Blade exclusively in From games

>>375980041
>Friede - 10/10
>3 boss phases
stupid and annoying

>>375980106
>using memes to defend memes
Tsk typical. You frombabbies and your lack of creativity.

>>375979936
Oh fuck you, don't pretend that most + rings are NG+ only. The fact that you can get some in the DLC without having to do NG+ doesn't change the trend.

>>375979343
nobody even uses that sword dumbass

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>>375979669
>prisoner's chain

A-anon...

>>375979979
>>375979365

Greatsword - 318 damage with C/C scaling
Heavy Greatsword - 294 damage with B scaling
Refined greadsword - 286 damage with C/C scaling.

The basic ass mother fucking regular ass Long sword

Heavy Longsword 203 with A scaling.
Refined Longsword 198 with B/B scaling

Okay... now consider that the Longsword has a Guaranteed second hit, costs far less stamina... AND IS 17 UNITS LIGHTER than the Greatsword. (lets not even talk about how much easier to use it is and how much less skilled you need to be to hit things with it. We can even ignore the fact that enemies, especially boss, will stagger you no matter how much poise you have because they have near infinite poisebreak.)

I'm sorry. Your weapon fu is dead. Find a new one. At least use fucking Yhorm's or Dragonslayer.

>>375979936
>How do I make my shit weapon not shit?
>Complete the DLC and get some rings
>But how do I get through the DLC with my shit weapon?
>Complete the DLC and get some rings

>>375980041
>Gael 10/10
>boss fight is literally just a mix of Vordt and Orphan of Kos
>worthy of a 10/10

Fucking casuals.

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>>375978621
>people like this actually exist

>>375980486

>some rings

You mean the superior versions of the important rings, all without having to get any farther than the Church of the Deep from the main game?

>>375980486
Allow me to quote myself
>havel's ring +3
>ring of favor +3
>prisoner's chain
these rings are the only rings that give you more carry weight. the +3 rings mentioned here are all available in NG.

>>375978621
Use the pillars to your advantage in the second phase

>>375978621
She's not that bad anon. I beat her at SL25 using a Dark Hand after 3 or 4 tries the other day.

She only has a couple attacks, and they can pretty much all be dealt with the same way: rolling backwards, or rolling left.

Side question
So, some people hate the Git Gud culture.
Why? There's very few bosses in souls games where there's a genuine weakness or tactic you can use against the boss and win, there's no phoenix down on undead tricks, save a few exceptions.
Most of the time it boils down to hitting the boss and not being hit. If you die to such a boss, what help can the community give other than, well, suggesting to do better?

>>375979194
I've finished the game with great machete and the only problem were Abyss watchers. EZPZ faggot. Go back to your SS R1 spam.

Which one of you PS4 twinks wants to give me Havel's Armor and some rings so I can cosplay as Havel in NG since heavy armor got a neat buff?

>>375980580
>Greatsword - 318 damage with C/C scaling
>Heavy Greatsword - 294 damage with B scaling
>Refined greadsword - 286 damage with C/C scaling
With what fucking stats?
heavy greatsword 66 STR has 676 AR
refined 40/40 has 625 AR
>>375980584
>pve
>needing pvp-tier builds
ur bad

This boss has long ass periods of inactivity.
Stay back, wait till she finishes spinning, go for a hit, walk back. It's a boring way to fight but if you just want to win it works.

>>375980580
forgot to mention that prisoner's chain got buffed and only drops 4% absorption. seriously stop posting you dont even know how to play this game

>>375980901

Plus heavy armor got some buffs.

The +3 Steel Ring is also making them much more dangerous.

>>375979371
just did that the other day against a nioh boss

>>375980791
People hate 'git gud culture' for the same reason people hate just about everything these days: no one has any accountability anymore. If you tell someone to git gud, you're essentially telling them it's their fault. No one can handle that anymore. Guilt and accountability are dirty words.

>>375979091
>Greatsword

There's your problem. Large weapons in Souls games in general are critically underpowered. They're (relatively) good for burst damage, but in a fight like a boss fight, especially one you are having trouble with, you really want sustained, safe damage.

>>375980791
They hate it because they havnt gotten good and they dont know any better. It always gives me a chuckle when people loose their shit and ironically shitpost "Epic le git gud meme xD " And stuff like that because you know if they persevere they will realize how retarded they made themselves look

>>375979371
Every time.

>>375980067
You reminded me of the Swordmaster summon glitch they patched out. I used to abuse that to get Dancer's armor early on.

>>375981684

Those were the days.

>>375981684
That glitch was insanely OP. You could get access to some potent stuff and just steamroll all of the game that you skipped.

>>375978621
I died a bunch of times to this cunt too, until I realized that the camera was my enemy, it would spin on me regularly, turn and position itself so that you would roll along with her spam attacks or change the trajectory of your roll.
Once I unlocked you could easily roll away from her circular moving attack pattern, and then it just became a wait till she finishes spamming, attack, wait, attack, wait etc until she dies.
The only difficulty comes from not losing your patience.
The camera lock on is your enemy in DaS3, it almost seems that the enemies were designed to take advantage of the dysfunctional camera, they clearly did not adjust the camera properly given how large every fucking enemy in the game is and how fast they can move, the camera does not keep up.
The camera is the real enemy of the game, Nameless King and his dragon is blatant on how inadequate the camera is.

>>375981762
you can still do that by getting Dark Hand early. The Dancer is weak to dark and you dont need to reinforce Dark Hand.

>>375979194
I remember the Cathedral Greatsword being pretty decent. Trying to get one to drop was a real pain in the dick, though.

>>375981070
hi dsp

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>>375981762
Worth it for the booty.

Plus I enjoyed the idea of the sequence break. DaS3 is relatively linear compared to the previous games, so it was nice that a method existed to let you go where you shouldn't.

>>375982215
but you can go there you just gotta git gud

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>>375978621
>losing to her on your first try

just git gud, she's pretty easy if you take your time.

>>375980585
yeah he was pretty easy and i beat him on my second attempt but the fight was fun and so was figuring out his moveset

>>375982643
I did kill her once before fighting Vordt, but then I found out about the cheese and just saved myself the hassle. Then the patch came in and I realized I'd completely forgotten how to fight Dancer properly.

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>>375978865
>hug her ass

>>375981856

Everysoulsborne game has a couple of enemies that fuck with your camera and make a simple fight complicated.

For me it was Logarius in BB. If I had an isometric view of the fight it would be simple as fuck, but he kept teleporting, flying and zipping around which made it very disorienting, especially since he was also pelting you with ranged damage and swooping in for melee.

>>375978621
What's it like to cry? It's been so long i don't remember. How do I feel?

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>>375978621
All you really need is the stone parma and a raw broadsword +4. I always kill Dancer early to get the large titanite farming spot.

While people will tell you to git gud and dodge everything, her attacks in the second phase can come out really quick. Being able to block even one hit can make a huge difference. I think like 20 vig and end should be enough.

First phase she's slow and easy. STAY AWAY from the side where she holds the sword, she has a quick swipe she can do when you're standing there. Stay close and on the other side, otherwise all her attacks are super easy.

When she starts spinning, unlock and run behind a pillar far away from her. Once she stops, lock on and get real close. Hug her ass, if you're lucky attacks will go right over your head. Her attacks come out quick and they are often multi hit, always have your shield up and the minute you block one attack try to roll behind her or out of the way of the follow up hits.

Your openings are:

1. Dark AoE bomb, can see it a million miles away and she's down for a while

2. When she stands up and slowly brings her hands to do an upwards X chop, extremely slow startup and she never follows up

3. A bit risky, but when she does the circular carve that leaves a dark/fire trail, if you stand in the right place that avoids the trail you can get a few hits in

Otherwise just hold the shield up, she can kill you in two hits if your vig is bad and she has some long ass combos she can start up. But if you only look for these openings and get in one or two hits each time, e z p z boss.

>>375980680
>>375980681
Yeah,but the point is that the damage/weight ratio is shit without these rings. So what, are you going to lug your underperforming heavy weapon while wearing shitty armor up and down both DLCs until you get them?

>>375980580
>doesn't know heavy infused strength weapons are top tier now
LMAOING AT UR LIFE

>>375980580
Did you just-

Jesus christ you seriously just posted the base damage numbers without scaling.

Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage? Have you ever actually played a Souls game or did you read from the wiki to try to pretend you know what you're talking about?

Millwood's Battle Axe hits ~480 AR at 50str/heavy which is the same as if 40/40 refined. Also Exile greatsword is a fucking strength weapon now, crazy I know.

>>375978621
Are you serious? Bitch is easy. Painted Guardian's Sharp/Heavy Sword, L2+R2 under her legs like 3 times and she's done for, hardly even a second phase.

>>375983185
Yeah but the problem is that in 3 every enemy was much larger than your character except for a handful of enemies, they needed to pull the camera much farther back than they did.
When the enemy doesn't even fit in the view, you have a problem.
In the other games big enemies moved slowly so the camera could easily follow them, in 3 big enemies also moved fast so the camera often could not show you the enemy and follow them, a double whammy of bullshit.
That's another thing that the game is worse off for, all the enemies are large and spam attacks, gone are similar sized enemies with interesting move sets in favor of tall, long enemies with big reach that just spam half a dozen attacks at you.
Such uninspired combat, they were clearly out of ideas by this game.

>>375979091
You're a huge faggot.

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Dude it's the music! Look at all this analysis I did after taking one class of music theory! It totally makes sense and not just bullshit I pulled out of my ass to keep this channel going!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZmAiyPRGqE

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rate my sword choice

>>375980791
Because the bosses aren't really about skill but knowledge. Once you know what to do, it's not difficult to get the timings right and make things work out without sweating. So you don't really get better, you just know more.

>>375979194
someone didn't get the memo

>>375979249
I feel like stagger is both OP on str weapons and underpowered on dex weapons. It's so easy to get interrupted with the PGS but you whip out the Crow's Claw and not even Gael can stagger you when you use the skill. Yet with the Deep axe all you have to do is dodge through an initial attack and you can stunlock everything but bosses. If DS3 had an easy mode it's got to be heavy weapons, cause dex is extraordinarily limited mechanically and I don't really care what anyone else says about that.

>>375978621
Use the fastest weapon you have. Using flamberge I died like 40 times. Using irithyll straight sword took me 2 tries.

>>375980041
>Midir
>9/10
Fuck no that shit is awful. Haet.

>>375978621
>literally beat her first try
Fucking end your life you stupid pussy,

Listen, just tap the ass, man. If you can't get in on the ass, take a step back, and find an opening. Don't make one, she can give you one. Just let her spread her cheeks for you, anon. Her ass was shown off as a deliberate "HIT ME" sign.

>tfw beat her and the majority of ds3's bosses on my first try because I'm not autistic
feels good

>>375984856
he's fun if not a little too tedious once you figure him out.