Now that the dust has settled and the honeymoon phase is over,

>>375958668

It's good, but not Ocarina of Time good because it's lacking in features. Low variety in environments, enemies, bosses, puzzles, sidequests etc. Basically open world syndrome.

Xenoblade X was the better open world game because it actually had the variety to match the size.

>>375958668

Nitpickers will focus on how different the focus is from the other games, but it is definitely the most impressive game Nintendo has ever made.

>>375958857
shut up op

>>375958668
>Is it really one of the best games ever made?
Yes.

Phenomenal

>>375959078

>4 posts
>4 unique posters

Are you fucking retarded

>>375958668
>>375958857
Would I like it assuming I've never played a Zelda game and I think they all look mad gay but this has too many GotY reviews to pass up in good conscience?

>>375958668
it's at least a 9.5/10, the only reason I wouldn't rate is a 10/10 is because retards associate 10/10 with literal perfect, despite perfection being completely impossible from any game.

>>375958668

8/10, enough enjoyable parts to make up for its flaws

>>375959148
>he dont know how to samefag

>>375959163
that's a gay set of criteria but you'll probably like it

>>375959148
not him but I think you're the retard here, there should be 5 unique posters if there's 4 replies (since the reply count never includes the OP)

>>375958857
>it's lacking in features
What features did ocarina have? Not gameplay and empty world

>>375958668
Not worth, not even to buy a switch.

>>375958857
>Xenoblade X was the better open world game because it actually had the variety to match the size.

>All the quest were just fetch quests
>Monsters all felt the same
>mining minigame
lmao Xenoblade X was fucking trash compared to the original on Wii

It was okay, but it had the same problem I had with Skyward Sword and ALBW: Once I finished it, I had no incentive to replay it or play it again. It's a step in the right direction, but it has its flaws, like all games.

>>375959284
Neither does the poster count until they post again...

>>375958668
Yes. Now fuck off.

>>375958668
Yes
No

>>375958668
Still the best zelda ever made, still one of the best games ever made.
Shits all over oot, no matter how cherished your childhood memories of that game are.

>>375959569
that's not true, the OP is always counted in the poster count, therefore it defaults to 1 for every thread.

Here we go, yet another 500+ reply thread in the BotW Shit Post Olympics.

We're tired OP. We've been at it for two months straight.

>>375958668
shitch is garbage, just get it for the WiiU and save your money

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>>375960090
I guess someone feels a little threatened by the Switch.

>>375959550
it's far more replayable than other zelda games though since you don't have 2 hours wasted on babby tutorials and you can actually choose where to go. instead of following a linear progression.

>>375960193
enjoy wasting your money I suppose

>>375960296
That's fine. I don't see any need to replay it for the time being. I've put around 80-90 hours in it, that's about right. I'll probably play it again in the future for a bit more and so on.

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>>375958668
>what's the verdict?
It's very good.
>Is it really one of the best games ever made?
It's a fantastic game and easily a GOTY candidate, but I wouldn't consider it a best game ever. It depends on how bad you find its flaws and how much you like open world adventures. I consider Tetris one of the best games ever made, for example, and a lot of people would disagree.
>Is it worth getting a Switch for? Asking for a friend.
There is no single game ever worth buying a console for. Wait for more games your friend (You) is interested in.

>>375958857
1. The only variety BoTW lacked was weapon TYPE and enemy TYPE.
2. Xenoblade X was not a better open world game than BoTW by any stretch of the rational mind.

Don't spend this (you) all in one place.

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>>375958668
It's a 7/10 at best.

10% is actual good content aka dungeons, the remaining 90% is just fluff consisting of shrines, collectibles and running around. It's an open world game with Zelda, not a Zelda game with a open world, they mask it by adding iconic Zelda sounds etc, but in the end it's about as bland as it gets.

>>375959436

>I only played the game for 10 hours: The post

Sidequests like the zombie one at the water plant, the pizza murderer or the guy who wanted to genocide the aliens were infinitely more memorable than all the sidequests in BotW, and if you thought fighting random woodland critters felt the same as fighting a 500 meter long sandworm or massive lovecraftian horrors the size of a football field your sense of novelty must be broken. The mining stuff was also simple and quick yet rewarding, I've literally never seen anyone have anything but praise for it.

>>375960086
Should I buy it, anon?

>>375959436
not him, and I don't agree with what he said, but you're braindead if you complain about XCX's sidequests when they're miles better than XC's - XC's are literally just fetchquests, XCX actually bothers to give its sidemissions some story/lore elements and they aren't all literal fetchquests either. Also, XC suffers from the same combat issues as XCX; if anything, XCX improved it a bit by tweaking the lock-on system for enemies and not relying on topple so much.

>>375960963

But the dungeons were pretty shit
>Only enemies you'll see are the generic little robot and the eyeball that shoots skulls

>>375961140
>>375961104
Shills the post

>>375961558
>oh no they've played the game and I haven't
>better call them both shills!
it's become a big problem that people just call others shills here when they realise they're losing the argument, it's fucking embarrassing. The worst part is there's nothing you can say to that, besides call them a shill in return I guess.

>>375962020

Stop being stupid and realize that the only response to shitposters who call people shills is indeed nothing. Just ignore them, they only win by getting a response.

>>375962226
But then everyone else thinks you're a shill.

>>375962297
Well then shut the fuck up shill

>>375962226
I just wanted to rant really.

>>375958668
Good open world game, and an okay Zelda game. Not enough dungeons/10.

>>375960303
Buying a Wii U after Nintendo has dropped it like a pile of shit is an even bigger waste.

Definitly top 50, maybe 20. It'll probably have a huge impact on games for the coming years

>>375962563
I'm baffled by the thought that someone can actually believe this.

/v/ will never recover.

>>375962674
he's right though

>>375962674
it's a good game

>>375962525

But you get its entire library for free.

>>375962674
>It got popular and mainstream by normies so therefore I don't like it

Every single fucking time without fail.

>>375963134
Is modding it really that easy now?

>>375963190
You literally have to put a few files on a SD card and launch the internet.

>>375963190
Nintendo gave up trying to patch the exploits.

But you have to laugh at the wave of desperados now shilling the Wii U to deter people from buying a Switch. The panic is real.

>>375958668
not even in top 5 of Zelda games and miles away from being one of the best of all time.
it was memed and hyped up by a horde of game starved manchildren

>>375960963
>good content aka dungeons

wut

but /v/ told me BotW would suck and the Switch would fail?

w-why would they lie to me?

>>375963616
Really? I betcha can't name a single better open world game right now. Really gets the old bojangles jingling.

>>375963652
They wan't everything to fail because they're desperate for a new TORtanic

>>375958668
A very good game, but no console is worth buying for one game

>>375961118
Not him but go for it. Its fun.

>>375959163
i tried it and didn't really enjoy it that much. but who know, you might like it. look up some mechanics of the game and decide for yourself.

I got it after i saw all the overwhelming good reviews. I didn't play it more than 10 hours over 3 weeks.

>>375958668
>Is it really one of the best games ever made?

Not even close, it's not even the best Zelda. It has a lot of interesting concepts but the execution is less than perfect.

>Is it worth getting a Switch for?

If you have a Wii U, no. If not, eh. Make sure you have a few other games to play alongside it, and that there's future releases that you're looking forward to. Buying consoles at launch is in general a bad idea.

I've put over 200 hours in, upgraded most of the gear fully and have around 45% completion and I can honestly say that it is nowhere near the greatest game of all time. It's not even the best Zelda game of all time.

What it is, however, is a mostly empty game with near perfect gameplay mechanics and has somewhat opened a door into stiff and unchangig franchises loosening up a little. The story, music, and variety of things to do is severely lacking. 900 braindead korok puzzles is not substantial content, its a shlockfest. 120 shrines that take minutes to beat is dissapointing no matter how inventive each one is. The Divine Beasts are ok. Overall 9/10 game.

>>375958668
>Is it really one of the best games ever made?
in the last decade, definitely.

>>375964291
>Buying consoles at launch is in general a bad idea.

Yes NOBODY should buy a console at launch. They should all be complete sales disastera and die within months.

Fuck off you fucking spastic cunt. We would have no fucking industry if people thought stupid shit like that

>>375962674

It may not actually be one of the best games ever, but if you don't think games will be copying the shit out of this game for years you are retarded. Expect more open world games with physics-based gimmicks.

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>>375964548
>advocating for an individual to be a rational consumer means that you advocate that as a general practice

Don't be so simple-minded. Though if everyone stopped buying consoles at launch then manufacturers would be forced into having launch libraries that are worth a damn and not filler.

>>375964548
Not him, but there have been consoles with strong launches. It's not unheard of to want that as a standard.

Best Zelda
Redefined the open world formula, san andreas your reign is over.

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>>375964581
>tfw games for years to come will be low-level physics playgrounds for autistic children
>tfw they won't even have zelda's characteristic charm to back them up and raise a barebones game to an 8/10

also the music in this game is subtle but very good, i'm really confused about people saying it's a terrible score

>>375964548

Or after a few consoles die companies would get the hint and ensure a good range of launch titles.

>>375964743
Wow it's almost like the best way to encourage 3rd party support is to have an installed userbase that will make producing games for the platform a financially viable endeavour.

Really makes you think.

>>375964863
>Best Zelda
OoT and MM are better.

>>375964743
Nintendo launched the Switch with one game. Sold out everywhere. That's confidence in their product.

>>375958857
>Xenoblade X was the better open world game
Nice troll.

>>375965032
Yeah Nintendo and Sony totally couldn't wait six months to a year for their first-party titles to actually be finished, they have to release their consoles right away and stagger out their games like a dripfeed. Stop being such a drone, you're enabling this garbage behavior.

>>375965182
That's good marketing more like. Has nothing to do with the player's core experience.

>>375958668
Almost on par with MM for me, and MM is in my top 5.
>Is it really one of the best games ever made?
It's the best open world game ever made. I think any game at the top of its genre deserves to get played.
>Is it worth getting a Switch for?
I did. The Switch is kind of a piece of shit console though, hopefully Nintendo releases an updated version at some point.

>>375958668
6/10 game.
Get a cheap wii u and play it there.

>>375963760
GTA San Andreas
GTA Vice City
GTA IV
GTA V
MGS V
Sleeping Dogs
Ass Creed Black Flag
RDR
Witcher 3
Morrowind
Oblivion
Horizon Zero Dawn

They all shit on your bland and empty turd with 95% copypaste content.

Just because it was Nintendownie's first babbyz open world game doesn't mean it's actually good.
Play more games outside of MUH NINTENDO, you disgusting Nintendicksucker.

>>375965642
>They all shit on your bland and empty turd with 95% copypaste content.
All those games do that and don't have the samq Quality or allure that Zelda has. Not even him, but try again.

>>375965642
>Play more games outside of MUH NINTENDO, you disgusting Nintendicksucker.
Why do you have to be like that?

>>375965642
>GTA San Andreas
>GTA Vice City
>GTA IV
>GTA V
>MGS V
>Sleeping Dogs
>Ass Creed Black Flag
>RDR
>Witcher 3
>Morrowind
>Oblivion
>Horizon Zero Dawn

Absolute fucking desperation. There's not one game here which comes close to the combination of freedom of movement, game design and world building on offer in BotW. Keep crying though.

>>375964301
>it is barebone shit with this sucking, that sucking, on top of this blowning and this being utter shit, this is missing completely and that is full retarded.
>9/10 preddy gud!
you are fucked in the head.

>>375958668
The best open world game I've played by far

>>375965642
Absolute trash. Not only are these games worse in general, their positive traits have absolutely nothing to do with their open world.

I'm convinced that if Battleborn was a nintendo switch exclusive it would have both received higher reviews and sold more copies.

>>375966093
lol

>>375966093
I'm convinced that if you didn't have that persecution complex you wouldn't be that pathetic

>>375965896
that's a nice accumulation of buzzwords to describe a 6/10 trite, boring and empty shitfest.

>>375965896
Look I'm ok with you shilling your product, but not if you're going to claim BotW has a better open world than Morrowind.

That is unacceptable.

>>375958857
>Low variety in environments
>compared to OoT
You don't have to lie.

>>375958668
Solid 7/10 - 8/10. I like it a lot but some things annoy me. I also wish there were less memories about Zelda and a bit more about the other champions. Other than that it gave me around 60 hours of gameplay.

>>375965642
With the possible exception of RDR, that's possibly the shittest counter I've ever read.

Well done.

>>375966093
That's a given. Critics are colossal Nintendo cock fellatios because 99.9% of them grew up with MUH NINTENDO and have a bias towards them.
I won't even start with the rabid fanbase itself.

>>375966649

I didn't say that. Learn to read. I compared the overall quality of the game to OoT, not those specitic points, though OoT is indeed better at most of them.

>>375961104
why would you make the first 10 hours of the game bad

>>375966559
Please tell me that you wrote this, I don't want to live in a world where someone found this worth saving.

>>375966093
>/ourguy/ threads about randy
>endless threads about waifus from the game

I'm glad it never happened.

>>375966649
OoT has more varied locations than BotW does.

>>375967109
probably because it was created by professionals instead of interns copypasting identical doodads around the world

>>375966751
Top kek.

>le nintendo bogeymen!

/v/ desperately needs some kind of explanation to the overwhelming response from critics, journalists, industry devs and gaming fans alike. It couldn't possibly be real that the most revered and applauded video game developer on the planet simply managed to make another good game.

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>>375967280
>instead of interns copypasting identical doodads around the world
What did Neokikeshitendo mean by this?

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>>375967404
>Nintendownsyndrometendo
>the most revered and applauded video game developer on the planet

>>375967484
Is that top image even in the game? I see the Dueling peaks, but that location doesn't seem to be in the game.

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>>375967484
Oh look a cherry-picking faggot. Cry some more for me. I love it.

>>375966559
we laughed at you the first time you posted this... why do you keep doing it?

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>>375958668
I liked it, but there should have been actual dungeons.

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>>375966559
did you get an A?

It's the best game I've played in years, I can't put it down.

>>375967685
Prove me wrong if you want to try. This will be good. I dare you to try kiddo. I WANT to see you try. Please do it. I need the laugh.

>>375958668
Real gamer would play TW3 for its genuine open world experience, well written quests, engaging story and characters.

Manchildren and Nintenbabbies would play BOTW because of m-muh Zelda and nostalgia.

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>>375968198

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>>375967772
And the bird husbando section could have used more content. Just sayin.

Puzzles were great, main quest length was ok. I think a late-late game flying transportation device would have helped with tedium once you've explored most of the map.

>>375968198
Or people would play zelda for its sophisticated physics, great sense of exploration, lots of great environmental storytelling through a post-apocalyptic kingdom and gorgeous landscapes and art direction.

>>375968198
TW3 doesn't offer the complete freedom of play that BotW does, nor the enjoyment of exploring or having a world which has climate, weather and environment intricately connected - influencing the player's choices and how, in turn, the player interacts with the world. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong of course.

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>>375967484
Fuck off.

>>375958857
agreed, both OoT and BotW have their own distinct flavour on how people will remember it for.
OoT's time travel mechanics and the tale of heroics in a world that has seemingly lost all hope for seven long years is truly epic and felt genuinely epic for everyone who played. The dungeons were great and memorable, Water Temple for being Water Temple, Shadow Temple for being spooky, Forest Temple Adult for being awesomely hit-in-the-face atmospheric.

But BotW had the first open-world fun aspect nailed down right. The world is big and immersive with nature. Though enemy variety is certainly lacking, just going around the world doing shit felt fine with the mechanics that the game is offering to the players, it never felt like a chore to do or uncomfortable to do. Noone will remember the game for its tales but for being a timesink full of your own adventures. Link is just your avatar to traverse Hyrule, not the hero with a world-saving mission, however much Nintendo wants it to be.

>>375968198
>W3
>engaging story and characters
El oh el.

>>375968198
>genuine open world experience
You mean that part where you spend 100 hours doing fuckall while your daughter is about to be caught by space nazis, bringing the end of the world?

>>375960296
No one wants to start all the way over with one stamina wheel and do 100+ hours of finding shrines again

>>375960296
>though since you don't have 2 hours wasted on babby tutorials and you can actually choose where to go.
Yes you do. The Plateau is the games tutorial and Link has to do all the stupid shit on it until he can get the para-glider and get off of the damn thing.

>>375966751
>Critics are colossal Nintendo cock fellatios because 99.9% of them grew up with MUH NINTENDO

This is how Sony Defense Force responds when a Nintendo game gets a good review

BotW is to /v/ what The Last of Us is to normies. That's one of the most applicable parallels I've observed recently.

>>375968881
Great Plateau is an open-ended tutorial that lets the player experience what the game has to offer in a relatively safe environment and is only as long as the player wants it to be

compare to Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword where you're watching cutscenes and doing inane busywork for 3 hours before the real game starts

>>375958857
There's a big variety in environments. The problem I had is that despite having so many places to be, the same enemies would be everywhere too with no area with their own regional monsters.

>>375967484
>Release
but that's wrong, that's from the beta version 1.0.0

>>375968780

I went through it three times, and each time was faster and more enjoyable, I could do it again if I had to.

>>375969051
It's still a tutorial that you have to sit through, it isn't skippable. Shitting on the other games for having a tutorial while praising BotW is dumb because BotW has a mandatory tutorial.

>>375969031
explain yourself

>>375969231
It's hardly a tutorial though, it's real gameplay with only the bare minimum of training wheels, and if you know where to go it's over and done with in 15 minutes.

You CANNOT skip the busywork in Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. I'm not even sure if you can skip cutscenes in those games.

>>375969231
>it isn't skippable.
actually, it is - people have already found ways to skip it

>>375969386
Is it some secret method in game or does it require an exploit so it isn't naturally skippable?

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It's a horizontal improvement to the genre. It did nothing better than anyone else and infact did a lot of things worse than other titles. But it's pretty much the only major open world game where the emphasis on physics. So it gets a hand wave for originality.

>>375969051
botw has the longest required tutorial and it shows all the game has to offer

>>375968601
This.

Would BotW have been better with more enemy variety? Certainly, but that doesn't really change the fact that the game still succeeded in accomplishing nearly everything it set out to do with the utmost of polish, precision and design.

My opinion on it now is the exact same as my opinion when I first played it - it's hands down one of the greatest games ever made.

>>375958668
it's pretty mediocre. 78/100 at most

>>375969502
somewhere in the middle

>>375969354
It is a tutorial, and if you actually try saying it isn't you're lying to yourself.

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>>375969684
i'd put it at more a 76.437654999... myself.

>>375969753
It's a tutorial in the sense where you're locked into an isolated area and learn the basics of the game before being let loose in the rest of the world.

But there's no hand holding through any of it. You have to discover and learn everything for yourself. Nobody teaches you to cook or how it works for example, you have to work everyout for yourself. The Great Plateau is a masterclass in game design.

I always ask: If it's not the greatest game ever made, what is?

I've never gotten a real response because actually labeling any one game as the be all end all best ever made is fucking retarded. It's definitely one of the best games ever made, though.

>>375969684
>it's pretty much perfect. 11/10 at least.
FTFY

>>375970179
>If it's not the greatest game ever made, what is?
Morrowind.

What now faggot?

>>375970337
nope

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>>375970337
Morrowind isn't even among the best.

>>375969507
Is the PS4 really a cockroach motel?

>>375970370
>>375970395
not arguments.

>>375970420
also not an argument.

>>375970447
>>375970556
You didn't give any to counter

>>375970447
neither is "morrowind", faggot.

If you want an argument I literally just need to say that I think, I dunno, CIV is a better game

>>375970638
>>375970670
Color me shocked, Nintendofags can't refute Morrowinds greatness.

>>375970763
State what makes it great.

>>375970763
Todd fondler can't argue their games supposed greatness.

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>>375970763
Really? It doesn't seem to have as many PERFECT SCORES as BotW. In fact, no game has. Imagine that.

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>>375970763
okay

You want a refutation?: it's a Beth game

>>375958668
Best open world game, worst Zelda game.

>>375971025
DELET THIS

>>375971136
Is it as bland as MGS:V's world?

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>>375971025
>Applying Bethesda hate retroactively

Is Baldur's Gate also shit because it's Bioware?

>>375971201
absolutely not.

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>>375971364
I never said I hated it, but it sure as fuck is a reason why it isn't best game

>you are now remembering the encyclopedia "dialogue system"

>>375971649
text dialogue is miles ahead of full voiced NPCs. Morrowind had its flaws but the complaints Nu /v/ lists only serves to prove their opinion is uneducated.

>>375971780
sure if you're autistic.

It wasn't "text dialogue" anon it was a full on fucking book

>>375970763
>all these meme replies
on a serious note, Morrowind has awful combat.

>>375972010
fixed in a patch, now what?

It's a solid 10/10 from me. So the answer is Yes to both your questions OP

>>375971904
>it was a full on fucking book
So? Do you have ADD or something?

>ASoIaF sucked, it was a book
Grow up.

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>>375972357
no, but it's a legitimate flaw.

and yes, GRRM is a hack and genre fiction is generally garbage

>>375972342
>counting mods
really pushing it there m8

>>375971904
That was the point. Ideally on important lines and major events should be fully voiced. If you ask a mage about necromancy you get a giant wall of text detailing how Cyrodil has necromancy shops where people buy parts and its legal and people will sell contracts for their body upon death.

Now flash forward to oblivion and skyrim-
both fully voiced"necromancy is duh bads because its dead things and dead things iz bad"

>>375972502
>I only play Bethesda games

>>375972473
>no, but it's a legitimate flaw.
Only if you have ADD.
>>375972480
Modding was a key feature of Morrowind. Releasing a toolset facilitated it.

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>>375972663
oh shit, I guess Morrowing is the greatest game of all time after all

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>>375972627
Good. Keep it that way.

>>375972663
>>375972741
nah, the greatest game of all time is obviously minecraft since it has a mod for literally anything these days.

>>375969669
I cant relate to people who prefer good open world to a tight linear experience... Not even linear, just an existence with clear direction
I far prefer CRPGs or similar genres including adventure games, OOT and mm had such a clear direction that left a cohesive mark in my mind
It's not even about story, some games just have such a powerful theme conveyed through all of its elements, like silent Hill 2 for example, I doubt any sandbox will match to to them unless it's leaning more to the rpg side like Morrowind and Gothic

Does that make sense?

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>>375972829
>www.strawpoll.me/12622802/
minecraft is pretty dope. Never bought it but considering getting it for the shitch

>>375972829
>muh false equivalency
not an argument.

>>375972982
>buying another edition of the game that won't get updates like the PC/Xbone version does

>>375958668
It's worth getting a Switch for if you have excess funds and you REALLY like LoZ. But I would wait until the NS has more games, honestly.

Regardless, it's much better than Nier: Automata and it will win GOTY before that game does, and I can guarantee you most of the hate on /v/ comes from butthurt Nierfags.

>>375972982
oops, disregard greentext

>>375973085
why wouldn't it get updates?

>>375972987
explain how he's wrong.

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>>375958668
story was total fucking ass, windwaker remains best zelda

8/10 that at it's best it's a 10/10 and at it's worst it's a 5/10

Worth getting a Switch for? Yes, but only if you are really intriged, considering it's formula it's bound to be improved it BotW should be obsolete as soon as the next Zelda rolls up, assuming it's not two steps back shit, that is.

>>375973225
The Switch vresion will probably get updates since it's doing well, but the Wii U version died in half a year and it came out in 2014.

>>375969245
When you talk to normies about TLoU and pose your argument for how overrated it is, they explicitly express how mundane they feel its flaws are in comparison to the overall experience, which is the exact same thing /v/ does with BotW. The flaws of either game wouldn't matter very much if they were minor, but both TLoU and BotW have prominent issues that proponents of both argue are minuscule.

Its very telling that in any other game's case, quest design, enemy variety, world density and varied objectives matter so much to /v/, but with BotW suddenly they are nitpicks.

>>375966559
>didn't even play the game

>>375973204
It comes from Personafags. Nierfags have quieted down since the game released on PC, because Sonygers can't shitpost about the superiority of PS4 using that game anymore.

>>375974539
I mean Persona 5 is also on the PS3.

It looks pretty bad, but still.

>>375974718
Yes, but do they really care about that? They've made like a dozen poll threads and spamvote in every poll to show that "Persona 5 is GOTY"