>coolest looking dragon in the entire series >literally

>>375942527
Indeed.

>>375942527
Yeah, everything about him was as it should be.

I didn't play the dlc yet and based on the picture I thought it was gaping dragon and was confused. Anyways, I don't belong here, take care lads.

What's the backstory?

How are the DS3 DLCs? I haven't really been following them

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>>375942527
his ost wasn't that memorable but the fight was great

>>375942527
>god tier backstory
He's a dragon that served the gods and munched on dark how is that god tier?

>>375942527
Rember how the intro cutscene of the first game states "the dragons are no more"? Haha, good fucking joke Miyazaki.

>>375942930
but DaS1 had like 3 dragons in it

>>375942765
He was raised as the gods to guard the ringed city and Fillianore
eventually the abyss went apeshit and so he started to literally devour it in order the darkness
this is the reason you can kill him since pre abyss midir would be literally immortal

>>375942883
Are you serious? It's one of the few none AHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH bombastic osts or ones that are background noise in the game. Plus that violin or whatever it is.

Midir was easy, just a huge healthpool that made them incredibly tedious.

>>375942930
They were referring to the ARCHdragons.
>>375943001
You are comoletel

>>375943038
The OST is a perfect mix between chaotic and sad, it's 10/10

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>>375942527
He definitely is.

>>375942969
Gaping Dragon, that undead drsgon and then the other 3. I mean fucking come on
there's more to Europe than just Dragons. Like Draconids or hybrids like Griffins and Manticores.

>>375943187
Yeah but dragons are cooler

>>375942969
>gaping asshole
>seath
>kalameet
>the one at ash lake
>the bridge one

>>375943260
Overusing them like this makes them boring and stale. Gooks aren't very adverse to European mythology, they just skim the typical top shit like Dragons and knights.

>>375942527

He's goodd but he has the same gimmick as the Ancient Dragon in DaS2: huge health just to fuck with you and sort of wonky hitboxes.

Still better than the Ancient Dragon but he really isn't difficult, they just gave him fucktons of health. Funny thing, friend of mine that plays a caster told me you can cheese the fuck out of him by using Pestilent Mercury.

>>375943321
>b-b-b-b-b-but it's not a doragon it's a wyvern

>>375942527
>its another episode of we give a cool boss too much health just to make the fight tedious.

>>375943506
Fuck any autist that says this. There's a very sharp differencr between Dragon and Draconid like a Wyvernn. Dragons have 4 legs,two wings with a long neck, can breath fire, spines running down their back, extremely greedy and are fucking hueg. Draconids are smaller on two legs and can't even breath fire.

Based ost, felt like a dragon fight done rite along with kalameet and sihn, none of that shit from ds3

>>375942527
Is he much more annoying on NG+? I already fought him on my NG character. But still have him and Gael left on the NG+.

I loved that since it has fucking ridiculous defense that the only way to do any damage was to stand in front of it to bait out attacks that gave you an opportunity to hit it's head. It made it really obvious which people were shitters that summon for every boss they have even slight trouble with, since the increased health pool and inconsistent aggro actually makes Midir harder to fight when you summon for it.

>>375942527
It's probably one of few bosses in DaS3 that actually plays like a Dark Souls boss fight. It's an actual test of endurance. You have to actually plan your moves or you will die and go back over and over again until you understand what his weakness is.

>>375944256
Yea I like helping with boss fights. It's probably my favorite part of the game. But I don't help with Midir anymore. It's just too chaotic. Takes too long to get to his head if he's chasing the host around.

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>>375942527
>No tail chopping
>No weapon
>No good boss

>>375942527
90% of the fight was chasing the dragon. I'd give the boss battle a 7/10.

I don't know why people cry about this guy, he has a move that takes an eternity to do and leaves him wide open

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I like that he's still sane and stalks you around the city.
Certainly the most interesting dragon lore-wise. Smart, with a sense of duty and even a human friend. Also his atomic breath is beautiful.

>>375944930
It's his fucking autistic rampage that pisses me off.
>roll once
>now chase him across the whole arena as he attacks the fart you let rip 5 mins ago
>finally catch up to him
>he does it again

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>>375942527
>literally made 90% of the community it's bitch
This is best part.
>beat something - EZ GAME LMAO MEMEZAKI
>can't beat something - ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY UNFAIR MUH RAID BOSS

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>>375942527
I had some 10/10 co-op there during release week

>>375946007
I know it's cool to think he's stalking you but I really think they just needed somewhere to keep the model before the cliff part and got lazy about it.

>>375946007
>still sane
>is corrupted by the abyss
okay...

>>375946996
Shira literally tells you to kill him before he goes full retard, so he can die doing his duty or something.
He's on his way, but he's not full blown ABYSS'd yet.

>>375946996
He's in a process of being corrupted but not mad yet, Shira wants to mercy kill him before it happens.

>>375946007
he's not sane
his model is just being stored hidden away for the fly in
you can't actually see him in-game without using CE to float

>>375947186
>>375947143
oh right, my bad

>>375942930
Remember how they told us that Midir is a descendant of those dragons (meaning that he is not one of them, in case I need to spell it out for you)?

>>375944168
My first run of the DLC was NG+ at level 100 and I was hitting Midir for about 140 damage per hit with a lot of different weapons (I tried using different shit cause I couldn't believe I'm literally tickling him and his healthbar doesn't move). I ended up beating him with Friede's scythe.

>>375947332
Of course you can, literally turn around when you meet the first preacher. I think we can see him in a few places but I don't remember now.

>>375946410
>Summoning for Midir

What a nightmare. Summoning for Midir makes him far more annoying to fight. All of his moves are are distance triggered, so if you stay within an appropriate range of him, you can eliminate 70% of his moveset. Not to mention it's easier to stay on his head when he's only going for you. Having 2 other dingleberries running around getting 1-shotted makes it that much harder to hit him. Out of the dozens of times I've thrown down my summon signs to help people fight him, I had maybe 5 or 6 actual victories.

For anyone having trouble, check this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSbXvn-qglA

You can literally do the same thing as the guy, except you can roll and make the occasional mistake because you're not being a tryhard. Stay just a bit in front of his head. Learn to recognize his tells, they're pretty distinct for each swipe combo.

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>>375942883
>his ost wasn't that memorable but the fight was great
But those violins tho!

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Best boss for each respective game, how accurate is this

>DeS
Flame Lurker

>DaS
Artorias of the Abyss

>DaS II
Sir Alonne

>DaS III
Midir

>>375948280
Midir is one of the few DS3 boss themes I can actively recall and hum. The other ones are the Champ, Watchers, and obviously Soul of Cinder because it's just Gwyn's theme. All the other ones sound like generic hymns to me.

Are quality builds still good?

>>375948278
>Out of the dozens of times I've thrown down my summon signs to help people fight him, I had maybe 5 or 6 actual victories.
After beating him on my own character I literally spent all week in that tiny room putting my sign down.
There sure was some retards, I'll give you that, but there was a surprising number of hosts who were pretty competent on my end.

Felt so bad going back into the main game, putting a sign down for an endgame boss, and just demolishing it before the music even got a chance to pick up.

>>375948751
yes but nowhere nearly as optimal as they were
it's basically a build for unique non-infusable physical weapons now
if something can be infused, it's generally better sharp or heavy, or loses like 10-20 AR for 30 less stat point investment

>>375942527
Fuck that guy, I had to hardcore cheese him because I played Pyro at the time..

>>375948935

You sound like your know your shit. What melee/knight-like build your would you recommend for someone who wants to replay the entire game + the DLCs for the first time.

>>375948425
>DaS II
Fume Knight for the difficulty

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>fight this bastard for two hours straight, little to no progress
>eventually start raging, the usual you'd expect of a sperg, THIS BOSS IS TRASH SHITTY POOR GAME DESIGN FUCKING MIYAZAKI CHINK SHIT
>brother comes in and watches as i just entered the fog gate again
>suddenly enter The Zone
>beat Midir without barely any troubles
wtf

>>375942527
I beat him with bow and arrow. Wasn't hard at all.

>>375949095
do you want to use boss weapons? go with a standard 40/40 quality
do you want larger, heavy-infused weapons while still having quite a few smaller weapons as an option? 40-66STR/16DEX
do you want to be a dexfag with DPS weapons like sellsword twinblades? 16STR/40-60DEX
the beauty of single-stat builds is that you can either do a hybrid or invest more into vitality for heavier armour which is useful for weapons that have hyperarmour

>>375942527
>fighting against the camera
i love how people ate up the nameless king meme again

>>375948425
Midir is the best dragon fight in the entire souls series but not the best boss fight in DS3.

My vote goes for Gael.

>>375948538
>just Gwyn's theme
Funny because I think the first part is better and it gives me the sense of a final duel at the verge of apocalypse. I have to say though that Gael's theme might be the best for me, at least the first 2 phases, I'm not a big fan of his 3rd phase music.

>>375948751
>>375948935
You can also go 40str/40dex + luck and make your weapon hollow but I'd say "pure" builds are better now, at least str, dex or surprisingly faith. Int builds are the same as always really and melee pyro can be nothing special or pretty broken depending on your weapon.

>>375949224
Most people find that when they beat him, it's almost a flawless victory.
Could be that they got gud, could be that getting hit even once is a near death sentence no matter what SL you are.

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>First boss of Painted World has three phases
>Second boss has 2 bosses and 2 phases
Is this how From Software is gonna do future encounters? Force you to fight them a million times in a row?

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I wish we would have gotten to see this helmet again instead of them bringing back, say, Artorias and Ornstein's shit wholesale. Unlike those armors the royal helm is actually quite mysterious and could have done with having its lore expanded.

>>375949457
imo when you near endgame, if you're willing to go beyond SL100 there's really no reason not to go 40/40 unless you're want to seriously min-max for PvP. The AR different isn't that big of a deal, and you open up most of the melee weapons library for yourself to dick around with. Only drawback is unless you go beyond SL120 (or you're willing to sacrifice some VIG or END), you won't have the stats for to deal decent damage with any spells. Though if you're actually looking to deal good damage with spells you're already committing to a specific build anyway.

Yeah he was as cool as Kalameet. The first time you fall down the chute used by a primordial serpent and he spreads his wings and the music starts is just awesome. On par with Pontiff lighting his swords and walking towards you as the chant faintly starts.
I agree with >>375944687, he brought back the feeling of when you were first starting the series and had to memorize individual boss moves and what to do when they happened. I think there's a few bosses in DaS3 that do this right too (like when you notice that Lorian always teleports after Lothric casts the fuckton of homing soulmasses, or the Storm Drake moveset in general that I know well enough to do the whole first part without getting hit). But some are definitely just "roll when they attack and poke them once, repeat".
I ended up beating him by staying between his back legs and using his sounds + front legs to tell what he was gonna do. Run to his tail when there's fire. There's a bug in his AI where he'll repeat a move that has a long cooldown (double or triple swipe with his front left leg) if you stick by his left leg, allowing you to get a full-charge R2 in there. Getting the timing and spacing down so well that you can avoid his murderous tail swipe or strike him on the head quickly as you're running back to him is satisfying as fuck.
Shame about the tail though. I spent a few tries trying to see if they'd snuck it in.

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>>375949797
>tfw you get the positioning during his autism tantrum JUST right so when he turns around, you're right in front of his head with a fully charged Dragonslayer Greataxe R2

>>375949432
Not sure if all but some weapons have weird dex scaling, there is the 75 dex + blessed weapon murakumo build.

>>375949095
I'd go strength if you want to have a good time. TRC brought some dex-like weapons that scale off str and generally all of them are really good. You can always smash things with a hammer if you want.

>>375949757
Since I like to switch weapons often I'd agree with 40/40 being more fun but I also have like 10 characters so I just dick around with different builds to make things more fun. My favourites are 40/40 with all weapons tied to artorias/watchers/sif since they have really fun movesets, a pyro build that uses witch's locks and all the others also have some fun options. Sometimes I go with 60 dex using a shortbow to annoy people in the arena. 60 str Millwood Gbow is really good for helping people with bosses like Gael. Seriously, after the DLCs there's so many fun options that any build should be ok.

>>375949554
Not everything needs to be explained
That's how you do proper worldbuilding

>>375949554
I'd like to see that minotaur helm from DS2 or whatever it was called but recently I took a liking to Zullie's and Karla's witch hats. They go really well with Shira's armor.

>>375942527
>literally made 90% of the community it's bitch
I don't get this
All his moves are telegraphed as fuck, he's not particularly fast, and he had a long pause after each combo so you could smack his face around
He wasn't very hard, how did so many people have so much trouble with him? Are you all sissy pyromancers or something?

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>>375942527
My dumbass thought it would be a good idea to go into the dlc at ng+5. Midir kills me by looking at me angry

>>375950583
The reason is very simple - up until now most bosses had very little health and people just brute-forced them without properly learning their movesets because they had shitton of estus. Normally you'd call high defenses or high hp artificial difficulty but in case of Midir and other TRC bosses the point is that their health is actually properly scaled now which makes it impossible to blindly beat them. Essentially, for the first time you actually have to git gud.

>>375943796
A designer could take an ant, give it two additional feet and call it a dragon and it'd canonically be a dragon.

Because they don't exist.

For someone who begins his post with "fuck any autist..", claiming the authority to name fantasy races is kind of autistic.

>>375942527
>god tier weapon

Don't you mean weeb-bait tier?

>>375942527

Has a fairly predictable moveset, tried to teach this "friend" of mine how to deal with it, and carried him to 95% of his health taken, died, and he couldn't finish Midir off. He raged so hard that it was my fault, for not getting healed by his spells, despite me taking him so far for the boss fight.

It was amusing seeing him message me over and over with the same bitchy message, but I just unfriended him. Lost his best chance to take on Midir.

>>375948425
change ez alonne for burnt ivory king and we've got a deal

>>375942527
>god tier fight
>it's an endurance boss where he spams the same bullshit flame attacks like every other dragon boss in souls

>>375951532
I never got the love for Ivory King. His DLC and lore is pretty good and when he comes out of the portal it's cinematic but his fight was pretty shit if you ask me. Then again it was weird cause Alonne gave me a lot of trouble despite looking like an easy boss and I thought that Fume Knight was ok but not overly difficult.

>>375950768
Went in at NG++ and holy hell be has a lot of health. His attacks would do about 75% of my health at like 1700hp. Ended up beating him with the BKGS.

>>375943164
I wish dragonform wasn't an emaciated crackhead dragon in DS3.

>>375950919
That makes a lot of sense
I do a lot of twinking so I've had to git gud at all the bosses, and midir didn't really seem that special

>>375951893
agree with fume being ok, but my experience with ivory and alonne is literally swapped compared to you
it took me 2 tries to kill alonne and the first time i didnt take any damage for 70% of the fight
meanwhile ivory king kicked the shit out of me forever until i got lucky

>>375942527
I know that Kalameet is easier, but I kinda enjoyed that fight more than Midir

Midir is definitely more challenging

>>375942868
Ariandel is okayish, nothing special except great final boss, but RInged CIty is top tier, considering Gael and Midir are probably the best bosses in the entire Souls series

Gherman is better https://youtu.be/qXTmAkJKikI

>>375942527
>*its

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>tfw youre the only one out of your friends to cut down Midir

>>375952479
Gherman was a dragon? Deepest lore.

>>375951127
>ant has 6 legs
>plus two
EIGHT LEGGED DRAGON
That sounds awesome

>Unlock your camera and hold circle for 20 minutes: The Boss
>God tier

>>375953254
>i didn't git gud: the post

>>375952359
Back then I used to hide behind a greatshield and each time Kalemeet moved I got fucking blasted back with a roll to barely block and keep my footing afterwards. Made me feel like he's really powerful. I also like his curse attack. Eventually though I learned his moveset and how to exploit his dumb AI so the fight became a chore cause I wanted to cut his tail and quickly kill him.

>>375942527
90% of the community is trash.
The difficulty of the fight is in its length, if he had half the health he does then it'd be a pushover.
All of his attacks are easy to dodge if you see through the bullshit set dressing and don't panic.
If you fail a read occasionally(Because you basically can't fail a dodge against him since some of his attacks are bombastic bullshit that you avoid by dodging left once), get hit by an attack and then you drink an Estus with zero punishment because most of his patterns give you generous recovery periods with his bite attacks probably being the worst since they follow up with a sweeping flame breath for a few seconds.
I had trouble with Midir and then I finished the rest of the game to get all 15 Estus flasks and then I stopped having trouble with Midir because that is how easy he is.
If you use a decently fast weapon and his his head often enough then he even staggers and can be riposted.

I can only assume that he's difficult because he is less predictable and doesn't alternate between turning to face you after each attack pattern and pausing for a few seconds to do a gotcha attack properly when you summon like a retard.

>>375951950
Im still trying to beat him, gael kicked my ass 6 ways to Sunday before I got lucky

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>>375942527
B-but he has t-too much HP!!!!!!!!

>>375942527
the everlasting dragon in dark souls 1 is clearly supierior. Cut off his tail and get a greatsword that puts out massive amounts of damage at max reinforced level. unfortunately, it has no strength scaling.

>>375949503
Season 2 of that show made me so sad after the kino that was season 1.

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>mfw killing midir on ng+3 with an unupgraded carthus sword
call me retarded but it was the most thrilling and exciting thing i've ever done in a Dark Souls

>>375942527
>god tier backstory
???

>>375942527
>coolest looking dragon in the entire series
>literally made 90% of the community it's bitch
Dragon God is considered this hard?

Did Jerma ever go back and beat this thing?

midir is a boring damage sponge.

>>375958440
>dragon god
he even has abs
he's a literal furfag

>>375942527
>coolest looking dragon in the entire series
It's kind of bland looking, just an edgy skinny dragon. Really not much to its design other than that.
>literally made 90% of the community it's bitch
Yeah, it's got retarded HP bloat. Not a good thing.
>god tier ost
I can't hum or remember the tune. I like the strings at the start of it, but it's by no means god tier, and it's barely passable by Dark Souls music standards.
>god tier fight
Too much HP and repetitive moveset do not a 'godtier' fight make.
>god tier weapon
Can't speak to this, once I beat it I stopped playing Souls 3.
>god tier backstory
Further ruined Gwyn's backstory by making him basically 'The guy who hates dragons, but is partnered with one, pretty much raised/owned one, and has a relationship with a halfbreed one'. Like Souls 3 as a whole (and especially TRC) it just adds a lot of shit without thinking how it effects the existing story and characters.

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>>375958963
>no fur at all
>is a furfag

>>375959830
Furfag scalie however you want to call it
it still looks like a buff guy with a dragon mask

>>375960423
The muscles represent strength, you see them in a sexual way because you're a weird sex pervert

>>375960697
when i think of a dragon i think of a vicious crawling reptile on all fours that breathes fire and flies
not some scalie's avatar

>>375960423
By your logic is flamelurker a pirate?

>>375960423
>thing is portrayed as physically strong
>therefore they obviously want me to view it as sexually attractive

What the fuck are you doing anon?

>>375952469
the bosses are great (with the exception of halflight) but the areas are pure cancer

He's definitely Souls best monster type boss fight.

Midir is also the hottest dragon in the souls series, he's sleek and beautiful, I wouldn't mind eating his darkness if ya feel me

>>375961273
Halflight is a filler for shitters who don't want to experience the glory that is spear of the church
you shouldn't even count him

>>375961316
fag

>>375961000
You can portray a dragon as physically strong without making him a bara lizard
lions are a symbol of strenght, but you don't see pictures of buff ass lions all over the place

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>>375961316
>He's definitely Souls best monster type boss fight

>>375961746
Bojack Horseman lookin ass

>>375961746
But that's not a monster, that's Ludwig you fucking plebiscite. Also Bloodborne doesn't have souls in the name and that's what I was referring to.

Midir is pretty fun but its balls to coop on unless you have Pestilent Mercury. Also the music wasn't that great. Cool strings but pretty generic. otherwise.

That said it was the second best dragon fight in the series, so thats pretty cool.

>>375961740
Nigger have you ever actually gone to a zoo and seen a lion? They are buff as hell.

>>375962170
But they're animals
dragon god is a fursuit

>>375948425
>DaS II
>Sir Alonne
I'm fucking embarrassed to say he destroyed me more than any other boss so far. Took me until a few tries after I'd exhausted every enemy on the way to him before I beat him. Ugh.

>>375943486
I saw it happen, his health is just rapidly eaten away by it.

>>375963725
to me Sir Alonne was a push over but holy shit i died like 30 times trying to get to him

>>375948425
>DaS II

Darklurker, my dude.

>>375948425
Demons Souls
> False King Allant
> Tower Knight
> Flamelurker
Dark Souls
> Ornstien and Smough
> Artorias
> Manus

Dark Souls 2
> havnt played yet

Bloodborne
> Ludwig
> Orphan
> Gehrman

Dark Souls 3
> Gael
> Soul of Cinder
> Friede
>

>God tier fight
If I wanted to slap a dragon in the face for 30 minutes I'd play Monster Hunter.

>>375942527
I did it on NG+2, it wasn't even that long of a fight. He takes double damage if you hit him in the head, which entirely offsets his """large""" health pool. It helps to switch to a good weapon which can reliably hit his head, like the greatsword vertical swing.