>Mario Kart 8 Delux is the fastest selling Mario Kart game

>>375931224
>Wanting them to be stopped
Why would you want them to be stopped?
Even if you don't like Nintendo, competition is good for the industry

It's still going to become their worst selling handheld

There's high initial demand because fans are buying it sooner rather than later, since it's so rare for a Nintendo platform to actually launch with games people want

>>375931224
I really can't understand why this thing is selling it's overpriced out of date hardware with 2 good games and one is a remaster. Oh well best of luck to them.

>>375931492
>It's still going to become their worst selling handheld

They don't consider it a handheld. They should though. Their handhelds tend to get good games.

>>375931224
Proper and aggressive marketing. Also good games.

For many people the Wii U didn't even exist. For some because they thought the console was shit, and for others because they thought it was a Wii peripheral or didn't know about it. For them this is the actual successor of the Wii and they're thirsty as fuck for a good Nintendo console after so long.
Also helps that games like MK8 are totally new for them.

>>375931764
The PS4 did that trick for more than a year. People buy it for the promise of good games in the future.

>>375931492
>>375931764
>>375931961
What games did the 3DS launch with?
This isn't rhetorical, I just honestly can't remember if it had a huge library when it was released. I do remember it getting great games over the years though.

>Wii U didn't sell
>We'll just port all of it's best selling games to our new console and sell tens of millions of copies
>Sony ponies pretend this is bad for some reason

>>375931983
True but I would argue the switch is even more out of date and over priced then the ps4 was at the time.

>>375931224
Advertising and new Zelda. That's literally all there is to it

The Wii U was a great system as far as its exclusives were concerned, but everyone thought it was just another Wii accessory and by the time Nintendo had to literally spell out that it was a new system with new games in its advertising, it was dead in the water. With the Switch, Nintendo's ads clearly demonstrate what the Switch can do and the games you can play with it and they've been aggressively marketing it on every relevant platform they can. Fucking hell, they bought a Super Bowl ad.

>>375932117
Street fighter 4 and MGS3 among others. Kid Icarus was pretty early as well I believe

>>375931492
Anon, they are going to release a pokemon on it. Do you understand? A pokemon in HD. That alone will mean 20 million + sells by normalfags.

>>375932125
>port TLoU to ps4
HAHAHA THIS IS PATHETIC
>port MK8 to Switch
t-this is totally fine

Don't you have to go look for a wig to bit you balding manchild?

>>375931764
The ps4 sold well despite having only 1 good game and the xbone is selling decently with no good games.

>>375931224
Very little. Pilotwings Resort was decent but a little too short, and it took a while for the library to catch up.

I think the first really big release was Ocarina 3D.

>>375932340
The Last of Us released a year before the PS4 came out, had almost no additions, and you still had to pay for the online DLC.

>>375932190
It isn't though. Not for that form factor.

It's out of date for a home console, but that's not what it is. You're not going to get much better than what the Switch comes with in that size and for that price.

It seemingly costs them $260 to produce add shipping and retail's cut to that and it explains the price.

>>375932190
The Switch is at least portable. Honestly console graphics are so bad I can't tell the difference between a Switch game and a PS4 game.

>>375932467
It came with the DLC for free, ran at 60 FPS and ran on a machine that didn't sound like it was about to take off into space and was priced at $40

>>375932413
Forza horizon 3,Gears of war 4,Ori atbf,Sunset overdrive,Halo5 and backwards compat. And don't give me that I can play those on my pc no one buys games off the windows 10 store.

>>375932853
But I can play those games on the PC. Why would I buy an Xbone for a bad port?

>>375932853
>And don't give me that I can play those on my pc no one buys games off the windows 10 store
It's pretty cute how you yourself know that your argument is shit so you just decide that it doesn't count

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They changed the name

>>375932853
None of those are good you dude bro normie.

>>375933060
>Hmm, I can play all of these games on my PC with a higher frame rate, Free online and better graphics
>I THINK I WILL BUY A 400$ BRICK TO PLAY THEM INSTEAD

>>375933264
Oh and with mouse and keyboard support which is required for any shooter.

>>375932595
The switch is $399 Canadian plus tax plus a game you are over $500 by the time you are done. the ps4 is $379 xbone is $329

>>375933060
I guess you are the one guy that buys off the windows 10 store. Hi bill

>>375933575
>living in Canada
For what purpose?

>>375933174
You think Ori and the blind forest is a dude bro game?

>>375933720
>I wont buy from the Windows 10 store that would make me a good goy!
>But I will buy a 400 dollar console and pay 6$ a month to pay for online plus 60 dollars for a controller and 60$ for a game
>>375933830
That isn't an exclusive.

>>375933814
It just kinda happened sucks being a leaf.

>>375934004
lol get a job you lazy piece of shit

>>375933898
I didn't pay $400 i paid $279 on a black Friday deal.Ori is console exclusive.

>>375933720
It's pretty good

>>375934095
Got one but i wont just throw money at something i think is over priced

>>375934270
http://store.steampowered.com/app/261570/Ori_and_the_Blind_Forest/

>>375934470
(Console exclusive)

>>375934404
what your mommy gives you allowance for mowing the lawn?

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>Release Wii U
>Complete flop
>Release Wii U again under a different name
>It sells so well they can't make them fast enough
Was the name really the only reason the Wii U did so badly?

>>375933575
Blame your government, mate. Not Nintendo's fault that it's more expensive for you cause you've got immigrants to pay.

>>375934617
That and marketing.

>>375932340
The difference is Mario Kart is game people actually want to continue playing and also adds new content.

>>375934617
right, the only thing different is the name, sure

>>375934579
Your mom bro all day feels good.

>>375934543
>Console exclusive
Such a meme.

Just means it isn't exclusive

>>375933264
Console exist to give low-end pc quality gaming to the masses.
Except the switch, who the fuck knows why the switch exists.
But with limited time and money a console is objectively the easiest approach to gaming.
Personally I hate consoles but they need to exist for the current gaming ecosystem to work.
Again, except the switch, which is just a gimmick that people bought on "future potential" so they can rush out to the store and buy wiiu ports because they have nothing to play.
>>375934543
Console exclusive means exclusive to consoles.
FF15 is a console exclusive
Ori is a mutliplat with a fuckyou to sony.

>>375934617
PRetty much - all the normies and old people thought it was just a Wii controller

>>375932834
It also added PS4 exclusive multiplayer DLC.

>>375934864
The switch gives console level gaming on the go. That is why it exists and it is honestly the first good gimmick to come out in years.

>>375934864
>Console exist to give low-end pc quality gaming to the masses.

holy shit dude pull your head out of your ass

The hybrid gimmick. It's a neat feature, don't get me wrong, but it's still a gimmick. Just like the WAGGLAN was the Wii's gimmick, and the controller screen was the Wii U's gimmick, the only difference is no one gave a shit about a controller with a screen.

I understand why it sold better than the Wii U but what i don't understand is how it's selling out so fast, there's not enough games for it right now, even the people i know who own one admit that there is a lack of games.

>>375934692
You are right i guess,better go buy a switch

So how long until the switch pro comes out? You know, the one with higher resolution, slightly bigger screen and a 64GB hard drive?

>>375934864
>PC quality gaming
I see you don't play PC games then.

>>375935076
Motion controls are STILL being used in this day and age and continue to be improved upon. Shit aint a gimmick.

>>375935193
not gonna happen

>>375934941
>The switch gives console level gaming on the go
No it doesn't, wiiu games aren't "console level" anything, and it has no third part support.
>>375935016
It's a fact anon.
Personally I love tuning up games, hell I spent maybe ~100 hours modding skyrim and then 10 playing it.
But the fact is most people are too stupid and don't have the patience to learn even the most basic shit like updating drivers, and want a box that does everything for them and just lets them play video games.
You can't say convenience and user intuitiveness aren't factors.
>>375935235
Say what you will but most of pc gaming is trash like dota and overwatch, which is easily the pc equivalent of call of duty and fifa.

>>375935308
>Skyrim
are you autistic?

>>375931346

this, god bless capitalism

>>375935308
>wiiu games aren't "console level"
They are though

>>375932117

Nothing. The library was so shit hey delayed every good game and cut the price by 80$ before even the Zelda port launched.

Kid Icarus took about a year to come out and yet was one of the first games announced. It was also the best game on the console and they never bothered to go back to it.

>>375935308
>It has no third party support
It doesn't matter who made the game, just the quality of the games you tard.
>Overwatch and Dota
PC quality games would be like Sins of a Solar empire and such but even then Dota is above most console games. You are clearly a sonybro who can't stand good console or PC games.

>>375931983
>The PS4 did that trick for more than a year. People buy it for the promise of good games in the future.

It's been finally getting some too. Some.

>>375932294
>MGS3
>Kid Icarus
2012

>>375935259
VR's being used today and is being improved upon and that most certainly is a gimmick. It's definitely a gimmick.

>gimmick
>ˈɡJmJk/
>noun
>noun: gimmick; plural noun: gimmicks

>a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade.
That sounds an awful lot like the Wii's motion controls to me m8.

When Overwatch on switch?

>>375935308
>The wiiu isn't console level but consoles are PC level
brain damaged anon.

>>375934617
>Wii U has a 480p screen (yes, 720p is a significant jump in image quality)
>need to have your console plugged in to a power outlet to play it
>controller is large as fuck

>Switch has a 720p screen
>can bring it anywhere
>only need to plug it in when charging it
>system is a bit wide but otherwise a nice size, no larger than a tablet (which people bring everywhere already)

Nintendo realized people like tablets in 2011 without realizing why.
This time they realized why. That's ultimately the difference. Though the improved marketing and name certainly help.

Good marketing + a fresh Zelda. Now add Mario Kart 8 a month later and shit's going to be hot for a while. Splatoon 2 is also coming, which was successful WW despite being on the Wii U, plus Mario in November. Nintendo basically is doing SOny's exact launch strategy but with better properties.

>>375935259
Nigga the Wii was bought and sold on the fact that it was for "the active gamer" because of the wagglan, it was a gimmick.

>>375935664
Also they are hinting to a new pokemon. Once Pokemon and Monster hunter release it's all over because drones buy those games in the masses no matter what.

>>375935370
They weren't when they were generation relevant, and they're even less now that the wiiu's generation is dead and gone.
>>375935449
>just the quality of the games you tard.
Yeah and if the quality of those games was anything above "shit" the wiiu wouldn't have sold like shit and wouldn't be dead right now.
>even then Dota is above most console games
I wholeheartedly disagree, I would put it at exactly the same tier as the most dumbed down generic console garbage.
>PC quality games would be like Sins of a Solar empire
I said low-end, I didn't mean in terms of spec, I meant lowest common denominator. Not even 1/10th of the people who PC game will play Sins, but atleast 1 in 3 will play a shitty moba.
>>375935568
Multiplats make up most of gaming right now anon, why build a $1000 pc to play call of duty and dark souls when you can buy a console to do the same?

>>375935758
>It's good because it sells well
This is how you know someone is a drone and not a human.

>>375935746
I expect a lot of crying wojacks if Nintendo announces Pokemon Switch and MH5 Switch exclusive at E3.
That's essentially them announcing complete control over Japan.

>>375935664
>SOny's exact launch strategy
How?

Sony's launch strategy was being surprised about how many people bought their console despite a lack of games.

>>375935758
>They weren't when they were generation relevant, and they're even less now that the wiiu's generation is dead and gone.
They are though

>>375935936
Oh I'm sorry I assumed we had all accepted that the wiiu's terrible library was responsible for it's downfall.
No, clearly it was gremlins that did it, those god damn gremlins and their endless attempts at killing nintendo's platforms.

>>375936221
But the WiiU had a better library than the ps4 and xbone but those sold more.

>>375936214
They're not, every game on the switch right now is effectively a rom, all of it's wiiu ports included.
You can't sell a 3 year old game from a previous platform (that wasn't even as powerful as a ps3 to begin wtih) and pretend it's within generation, that's just retarded.

>>375935746
>Also they are hinting to a new pokemon
They aren't. People only think so because some HD assets were found in Sun/Moon and Eurogamer said a source told them a Switch exclusive pokemon stars would come this year.

Nintendo hasn't been hinting at all.

>>375936221
No you retard, people have given multiple reasons why it failed. You stupid sonybro. Have fun paying 6$ a month to play "PC level games" that are actually just interactive movies.

>>375936221
But the WiiU had Bayonetta 2 which is still the best console game of this generation.

>>375936314
>WiiU had a better library than the ps4 and xbone

How do you figure that?

>>375936372
>pretend it's within generation
No one's doing that though. And a generation is only a measure of time anyway, not if power.

>>375936505
It had good exclusives.

>>375936374
Masuda said the Switch was the future of pokemon in an interview.

>>375934617
>Complete flop
But it made a profit.

>>375936125
The funny thing about the PS4's success is that it had absolutely nothing to do with Sony, it was all Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot.

>>375936314
That's because the wiiu's library from any objective standpoint was terrible. It didn't have third party support so it didn't receive any of the well-known titles of the last generation (or any of the good games to be quite honest) and all of it's "exclusives" were of low quality, of dumbed down design for idiots and children, and had super limited content.
>>375936396
>Have fun paying 6$ a month to play "PC level games" that are actually just interactive movies.
And you have fun playing $6 a month to play low quality pc indie games and wiiu ports in low quality.
>>375936496
Bayo is generic edgy button mashing trash for 13 year olds who need to jerk off to video games because they don't know how to manage their browser history on their mommy's laptop.

>>375936531
And by that measure of time we have accepted that mk8 is antiquated bullshit, it failed to save the wiiu 3 years ago and it's inconceivable for it to save the switch now.

>>375936630
>Bayo is generic edgy
You accidentally wrote Bayo and not BloodBorne

There was enough time between the Wii to now for people to start caring Again.

Also that smartphones and tablets had a meteoric rise in popularity for the past half decade so millions didn't care about gaming systems.

But now tablets and phones are a part of everyday life the normies and casuals may be thinking about getting a new Nintendo system again now that the Wii is a fond memory

>>375936630
But I don't own a Switch. I am playing Zelda and Bayonetta on my WiiU though.
>Objective standards
And what are those? You mean some weird standards that make TLOU not a shit game?

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>>375933575
>blaming Canadian inflation on Nintendo

>>375936727
So?

>>375936572
>It had good exclusives.

Such as?

>>375936630
I bet you think the movie games made for sony consoles are good.

>>375936943
All it had was exclusives, i'm sure some of them had to be good.

>>375936943
Bayonetta 2, W101 and Mario 3D world. I liked them all better than generic dark souls Rehash and all of the xbone games are on PC now.

>>375936740
Sorry I get them both confused because they're both about angel and demon god slaying faggots clad in black latex and leather wielding weapons that look as inefficient as they do edgy.
>>375936826
>And what are those? You mean some weird standards that make TLOU not a shit game?
Every standards set that isn't "well I love nintendo, so I must love <nintendo game>"
Be it sonyfag, or pcfag, or even xbot, probably even most idorts. It really doesn't matter, you could drop anyone infront of a wiiu game and they'd feel like it was insulting their intelligence.
>>375936945
No I prefer my games to be endless collections with no plot past the first 5 hours, like botw.

>>375937019
Just because you "liked them" doesn't mean they're good.
SM3dW was objectively the worst mario game and worst platformer I've ever played.

>>375937053
>Bayonetta is edgy
You don't know what that term means kid.
>insulting their intelligence
So the best game of this generation is insulting? Sorry SJW.

>>375937141
Then you haven't played very many platformers.
It's ending levels were some of the best in the series.

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>>375937141
>SM3dW was objectively the... worst platformer I've ever played.
If you've been playing games for only 5 years and haven't played at least 500 games you're not welcome on /v/. Get out.

>>375937053
I wonder what ps4 games you like if Bayonetta is edgy to you.

>>375937053
Bayonnetta 1 was the best or one of the best games last gen
Bayonnetta 2 is the best game this gen
Sorry this upsets you.

>>375937174
No, being able to play a game where you can button mash through the entire game on the highest available difficulty is insulting to people's intelligence.
Bayo being a slut is just pandering to teenagers, nobody who's watched porn will even register that kind of lazy design.
>>375937249
Making 90% of the game lazy bullshit and throwing in a dozen decent levels locked behind a grind-wall is probably the worst game design I've ever seen.
They should have just made it dlc while they were at it, so I wouldn't have actually had to play the terrible 90% of the game crammed with retarded shit like toad missions and iphone minigame where you're floating on that retarded blue dinosaur thing.

>>375937426
>Button mashing
Sorry I like fast paced action games and not shitty SJW games. Now what PS4 games do you like so much anon?

>>375937141
>Just because you "liked them" doesn't mean they're good.
Is this.....le nu /v/ pasta for le reddit???

>>375931224
I cant even fucking buy a switch, how is it still out of stock

>>375937426
>PC games are too hard for me!
>WiiU games are too childish for me!
Cancer.

>>375937314
I haven't even played a free smw romhack as shitty as SM3dW anon.
I'd say platformers are my favorite genre, I can even play out most kaizo marios levels within a dozen runs. I never felt a single braincell firing while playing SM3dW, it was like the game was on auto-run mode for me because it was so easy.and dumbed down. Clearly designed for 4 person clusterfuck mode.
But don't worry, if you ever struggle for even a second the game immediately throws you a cat suit or golden leaf so you can abuse your way through half the level.

>>375937667
Yeah, you are confirmed for casual. The ending levels are the hardest in the 3D mario series.

>>375931224
Nintendo always does well with portable consoles, deal with it.

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>>375937667
Nice dodging both points.
Play more platformers before coming back here. There's a lot of dogshit and mediocrity in the genre, especially from the earlier eras.

>>375937638
I love these neogaf casuals.
>I need mature games!
>B-But not like deus ex or anything I mean movie games!

>>375937419
Bayo 1 was a complete failure, it only came to the wiiu because sega thought it was unprofitable and sold it cheap. Don't praise it as something it's not. if it wasn't for bayo2 and the wiiu we all would have completely forgotten about it just like all of the other trash action games they shit out on the ps3 like heavenly sword.
>>375937638
I never said pc games are too hard for me, that's the only place you can play smw romhacks after all and I consider that to be some top tier skill demanding shit, and I love it for it.
>>375937741
>The ending levels are the hardest in the 3D mario series.
That's like saying the fastest runner in the special olmpyics, nobody cares when you're using a motorized wheelchair.
They were still easy as fuck.
>>375937836
Fuck off casual, I've played more platformers than you've played games period, I don't need this bullshit.
And second of all don't call sm3dw a platformer, it's not, it's a collectathon, there's no actual platforming in it.

>>375938031
>Bayo 1 was bad because it didn't sell a trillion copies
I want neogaf to leave. Even before Bayo 2 was announced we would have regular threads about it you stupid newfag.
>I love skill
Then why do you play shitty PS4 games?
>They were easy as fuck
So now you are saying all 3D mario games are bad? Kek, you are such a drone.
>Fuck off casual
You are a console kid here who pretends console games are PC level.

>>375938031
>there's no actual platforming in it
This is it. I'm done. Too funny.

>>375938031
>Fuck off casual, I've played more platformers than you've played games period
Bullshit.
Bubsy is an unwritten requirement for platforming fans to play so they can see how bad a 3D platformer can get.
Most Sonic fans have played 06 once, either because they walked in not knowing how bad it would be, or to at least experience Sonic's all time low at least once.

There are tons of examples of absolute dogshit platforming games that most platforming fans have played. The fact that you say 3DW is the worst platformer ever just shows you have not played many platformers.

>>375938031
So you admit you weren't here when we would have bayonetta threads all the time years after the first game was released.
>>375938319
He is clearly underage.

>>375938237
>Even before Bayo 2 was announced we would have regular threads about it you stupid newfag.
Revisionist bullshit at it's finest.
"we all loved bayo" they said, just like they said about nier, just like they said about heavenly sword, oh wait no heavenly sword sequel announced yet, just like they will say about heavenly sword*.
>Then why do you play shitty PS4 games?
I've never played a single ps4 exclusive, nor do I own a ps4. Nice strawman.
>So now you are saying all 3D mario games are bad?
That's not what I said at atll, but whatever helps you come up with no argument to run away from my argument.
>You are a console kid here who pretends console games are PC level.
Says the dota player who thinks overewatch is the epitomy of skill because some twitch streamer told him so.
>>375938358
>So you admit you weren't here when we would have bayonetta threads all the time years after the first game was released.
Because it never happened, you're just a revisionist redditor trying to fluff up bayo's credentials as some sort of cult classic when in reality it was a flash in the pan cashin that failed to cashin.

>>375931492
>It's still going to become their worst selling handheld
>moving goalposts this hard
Has /v/ ever been BTFO this hard before?

>>375938583
But we did like Nier you stupid newfag. I never did myself but I know for a fact we had threads on and off for years. Jesus christ you are digging this hole deeper and deeper.


Is there anyone else in this thread who isn't a newfag that can back me up in saying we had Nier threads here for years?

>>375938319
>Bubsy is an unwritten requirement for platforming fans to play so they can see how bad a 3D platformer can get.
I'm not going to play trash just to justify why you like a trash game anon.
Fact: all 3d platformers are borderline unplayable garbage, a retarded remnant of the switch to 3d, a genre which CLEARLY doesn't work in 3d but was popular in 2d so fuck it lets keep making it.
and of all the 3d platformers actualy trying to do it right SM3dW is the worst.
I'd rather play spyro or crash bandicoot over this trash, and I wouldn't want to play those pieces of shit if I was getting paid a hundred dollars an hour to do so on twitch.

>>375938583
>>375938902
>/v/ didn't like Nier
Now this is some true revisionism.

>>375931764

Because Nintendo is for scapels and autistict collectionists,

>>375938902
Please you fucking moron you probably don't even know what franchise nier is from.
I say this as somehow who was actually excited for nier, turned out it had nothing to do with drakengard and was dumbed down casual bullshit for the lowest denominator. Surprise surprise.

>>375938976
Oh it's the 18 year old in his emulator phase. Cute.

>>375938976
>3rd Platformers are garbage
Holy shit. You are calling the best console genre bad. Go back to TLOU and your other movie shit.

>>375939118
>I don't like it so no one else did
/v/ liked Drakengard and nier despite the shitty gameplay. You are a faggot.

>>375939123
Fuck off, I've been playing emulators since the gameboy emulator first came out, and I still had a gameboy at the time.
>>375939134
You're retarded, enjoy your clumsy platforming and shitty physics, mario sliding around all over the god damn place like he did in sm64, sloppy choppy cameras clipping into walls and no real penalty for death because everything is in a bubble world. Call me when you get through the sonic games and super mario 2 (both of them), then your opinions on platforming can be worth slightly more than absolutely fucking nothing.

>>375939118
That doesn't make the threads about it not count.

>>375939379
>Sonic games
kek. You are going to call Mario sunshine and 64 bad games but defend sonic and it's "BLAST PROCESSING" bullshit. You are a faggot. Every post from you screams casual.

>>375939238
I doubt any of you neo-/v/ faggots even played drakengard. Nier was nothing like drakengard, and played like unplayable trash, so if you really spent years hyping it (which I know you didn't because I remember when that game came out, bombed, and was forgotten 2 months later) then all that really tells me is you have the trashest of trash taste.
>>375939495
You're going to call mario sunshine and 64 platformers?
Goes to show what you know about gaming.
Enjoy your shitty collection puzzle games.

>>375939597
>Neo-/v/
>Insults games /v/ has liked for years and is the worst type of console casuals but calls everyone else new

>>375939597
>/v/ d-didn't like Nier or Bayonetta or Mario I swear!
Can you please go back to neogaf? You were outing yourself when you implied sells show how good a game/ console is.

>>375939767
>not neo-/v/
>pretends /v/ liked garbage the entire time and it's acceptable to like garbage as a result

>>375939931
>It's Garbage unlike my amazing ps4!
Yeah no, Bayonetta is one of /v/'s most like games in years. You are a casual who can't handle good PC games or good console games and want /v/ to be like neogaf.

>>375939931
yeah, everyone in this thread is calling you a faggot but it is definitely you who is the true /v/. Even fucking 8ch /v/ still talks about Bayo, Neir, Mario sunshine, ect on a regular basis.

>>375940142
Weren't you one of the faggots complaining about movie games?
And yet here you are, defending, adamantly I might add, a game where gameplay is meaningless and you can figure out a win combo within 10 minutes of playing the game that you can abuse through the entire game, for the purpose of what? "Story" "waifu tittys" "cinematics"?
Regardless of your revisionist bullshit bayo is a trash cinematic game, and you're a trash eating noob for playing it.

>>375940334
>Even fucking 8ch /v/ still talks about Bayo, Neir, Mario sunshine, ect on a regular basis.
Great, I'm glad we're as awful as /pol/chan's /v/ board.

>>375940497
>Getting butthurt someone brings up a place filled with mostly older posters in a discussion about what old /v/ was like
>>375940361
>A win combo in 10 minutes
You can say the same about DMC. Technically you can do the exact same combo and win if you manage to take no damage, that doesn't mean using the same combo over and over is advisable. You really are an idiot.

>>375940816
>>Getting butthurt someone brings up a place filled with mostly older posters in a discussion about what old /v/ was like
>he thinks when bayo came out is old /v/
Jesus christ I wish neo-/v/ would die in a fire.
>You can say the same about DMC. Technically you can do the exact same combo and win if you manage to take no damage, that doesn't mean using the same combo over and over is advisable.
That shit doesn't work in DMC boss fights, which are the only fights worth shit.
Bayo combos you can abuse right through boss fights until the end of the game.

>>375941223
No one said that faggot, but since you are such a newfag you don't remember the bayo threads it clearly means that you aren't even that old.
>Doesn't work for DMC boss fights
It does for most of them. I can literally do the same move over and over as long as I can dodge good enough. By your retarded logic quake is shit because as long as I can dodge all incoming fire I can kill everyone with the basic starting gun.
So lets get this straight
>Nier is bad
>Bayo is bad
>Mario is bad
>B-But it's all of you people who are newfags
Keep playing your shitty movie games on your PS4 anon!

>>375941483
>By your retarded logic quake is shit because as long as I can dodge all incoming fire
Which wouldn't be very long and you know it.
I never said mario is bad, hell the 2d marios are some of the best games ever made (excluding the casual wii, ds, 3ds, and wiiu ones)
I don't even mind sm64, it's just laughable to call it a platformer when it's clearly not, and to say sm3dw is the best 3d mario platformer when it's practically the only one (aside from the vastly superior one on the 3ds)

>>375941765
>Which wouldn't be very long
Either would be playing DMC or Bayo on a hard difficulty and only using generic combos that don't maximize damage output or utility

>>375941765
>Mario 64 isn't a platformer
>Mario 3D land is better than Mario 3D world
Ok everyone, he was just baiting the entire time.

>>375941863
Even on the hardest difficulty bayo and dmc are a joke, anyone with the tiniest bit of skill can dodge with windows that wide.
Don't compare edgy over the top fanservice button mashers to a skill-based multiplayer shooter like quake, it makes you look like a fucking idiot.

>>375941979
3/10. The entire thread is everyone calling you a faggot.

>>375941957
>no catsuit
>no free golden tanooki after 3 deaths in a row
>some levels ACTUALLY REQUIRE PLATFORMING SKILL
I'm not going to say land is better than world. I'm just going to say that world is unplayable garbage and land is not.

>>375942071
Oh no, people who think super mario 3d world is as hardcore as quake think I'm a faggot?
Clearly this matters a lot to me.

>>375934617

as someone who works at a game store, probably. people did not understand the WiiU was a new system.

>>375932117
3DS sold like shit initially, then for some reason it started doing iron man numbers. 3DS and switch both baffle me. They have every reason to be collosal fucking failures yet they're doing iron man numbers.

>>375944358
The 3DS got a significant price drop early on.

>>375942093
But 3D world has harder levels that are better designed

>>375932336
Is anyone gonna tell him or should i?

>>375942274
Nice strawman "Mario64 isn't a platformer" faggot.

>>375931224
>How did they go from the commercial flop of the WiiU to this?

Marketing. Wii U never got a superbowl ad. You never saw Target carts turned into go-karts for MK8 like they did for MK8D. There was no effort to actually tell people what Wii U even was.

There are fan ads out there that did a better job of showcasing the system than Nintendo did.

>>375944358
MY CONSOLES ARE DOING IRON MAN NUMBERS AND I DON'T CARE ANYMORE

>>375944584
Tell him what

>>375931224
I honestly can't believe this thing is more expensive than both the Xbone and the PS4 in my country.