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>it's a mage from your party betrays you episode hmm

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>it's a mage from your party betrays you episode

hmm where have i seen that before
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I think it was smeared in blood and shit on the walls of David Gaider's office.
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Best romance.
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>>375908797
They should have just made female elf inquisitor the default.
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>>375908651
>"Perhaps you have some questions?"
>"No, not really."
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>>375908651
>it's a mage from your party turns out to be an ancient elvish god planning to atone for his past mistakes by tearing down the barrier that separates dreams and magic from reality episode, and is saddened but resigned about having to oppose you

Don't think I've seen that one before
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>>375908651
Oh, hello there.
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>>375908651
>white character from a book is turned black
really activates my ice cold kool aid.
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>>375908890
Hell just make her the only option and Solas the only romance. Imagine how much better the game would be if they only had to focus on one character instead of a bunch of different races.
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>>375909314
So you plan on crushing any sort of semblance of RPGness in this game.
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>MUH LENNETH VALKYRIE
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>>375908797
That's not Sera, Cassandra, and Cullen.

Solas is boring as fuck both as a party member and as a romance option. The only romance option worse than him is Josephine.
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>it's a mage from your party gets turned into a girl episode
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>>375908939
Trespasser was a great DLC and it's left me with a modicum of hope for DA4
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>>375910152
If only they fuck off with the open world meme and I'd be happy buying their games again
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>>375910105
While I am sure we can agree that The Descent was the worst of the three, which is better, Jaws of Hakkon or Trespasser? Why?
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>>375910105
name 1 (one) game

and having been turned into a girl as part of their backstory doesn't count.
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>>375910281
Baldur's Gate 2
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>>375910281
>hasn't played the best wrpg of all time
Underage spotted.
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>>375910098
>Sera
>Best romance
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What is it with Bioware and companions that backstab you are the worst possible moments?
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who fucking cares it's dragon age
you may as well be complaining about the inclusion of transvestites
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Who here /neverrecruitbullseraandcole/?
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Let me touch your penis or i'll blow everything up!
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>>375910098
Spotted a SJW, guys what do i get?
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>>375910152
DA4 will be completely empty, colorful maps, padded with fetch quests, shit gameplay, resources diverted to multiplayer because of free crate bux, disappointing boss with cliffhanger ending
and maybe a good story DLC two years after first release
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>>375908651
Fucking Edwin, picking a fight with Minsc
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>>375910439
Cole is cool, he's an autist kid that can be guided into becoming a real human being.
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>play Dragon Age Origins
>love Sten, greatly intrigued about the Qunari and the Qun
>play Dragon Age 2
>everyone else shits on it, but Arishok becomes favorite NPC of the series and additional lore on Qunari like their spellcasters increase love of the Qun even more
>Felicia Day's fanfic girl elf Qunari assassin DLC comes out... try to ignore it
>Dragon Age Inquisition announced - play as a Qunari!
>preorder special edition immediately, piss self in excitement
>pic related happens
>still haven't recovered
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>>375910556
It's going to be in Tevinter. You can bet your ass that it's going to be very political. I kinda agreed with Dorian and his views on slavery.
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>>375910650
tbqh I think Bull was lying in order to make Krem feel good, based on the tone of his voice and his reluctance to the idea of the Qunari coming in and conquering Thedas, forcing people he likes into other roles.
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>>375910098
>Sera

I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to allow the clearly unhinged anti-authoritarian "lol so randum" elf into their party in the first place.
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>>375910789
While I hope you're right, Mark of the Assassin suggests otherwise.
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>>375910650
>This is a word I just made up because I only now learnt it's a thing that exists.
>Our society just brainwashes this kind of thing away, but it's a waste to turn a good warrior into baker, so I guess I needed to invent a word.
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>>375910713
So was Orlais, and the Winter Palace is great, but it doesn't change that the rest of Inquisition is fucking sludge
DA:Tevinter will have exactly the same problems of Inquisition and Andromeda
Afaik most of the old writers left, so we'll get people who have no idea what they're writing about like Andromeda
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>>375910650
>Clear gender roles in society
>Literally bred like dogs into those roles
>Tortured for wrongthinking and diverting from the norm
>"Oh you're trans? You can do whatever you like."

It wasn't even needed, Orlais is already accepting of virtually anything but apparently that's not enough.
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>>375908651
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>It's a recruitable jester NPC soloes the entire area episode
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>>375911454
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>>375911454
Awwww yeeeeah.
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>>375910650

>RIDE DA BULL

Literally Gaider fetish tier. With Bioware spiraling further into delusion and madness, I don't think it's going to get any better.
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Daily reminder if you supported mages in any of the games you should gb2reddit.
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>>375912046
It literally doesn't matter cause you get the same outcome anyway despite the Mage-Templar cancer overtaking the entire game. Nothing of what you did in 2 mattered.
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>>375910556
>>375910713
>>375911080
>>375911760
Worry not, friends, Bioware has hired a writer who's actually good to presumably work on the next Dragon Age - Alexis Kennedy, who wrote The Last Court which was great if anybody played it.
He's one of my favourite writers. So, there's hope at least, especially with how much better the writing was in Jaws and Trespasser.
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>>375910013
>Hawke

I mean....they've done it before, in this very series
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>>375912046
>siding with a literally insane psychopath who wanted to murder your sister
Baka anon
The end result doesn't change anything beyond Varric's opinion, so the best solution is obviously to side with the Templars throughout the game, side with the Mages in the end (you kill Orsino anyway), and then fuck off.

>>375912449
>I mean....they've done it before, in this very series
Not to the point of defining a set romance, though, which would be too far for most players (especially considering all the criticism of how forced some of the romance feels anyway, especially in II).
Not to mention how much criticism there was of II for choosing to focus on such a strongly defined character.
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>>375912386
Does that mean Morrigan will be more central to the story?
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>>375912810
>Does that mean Morrigan will be more central to the story?
Hopefully, but sadly, I don't think so - I think she was featured so heavily in TLC as a nice way of teasing lore and tying into Inquisition, especially since it looks like the new game is going to be focused on Tevinter and it looks like Inquisition has taken Kieran's destiny away from him, at least for the time being..
Which is a shame, because I'd buy DAIV if the entire game was just Morrigan being a cute tsundere and doing cute tsundere things.

That said, who knows? I don't think it's particularly likely, but they could just declare one version of her 'canon' like they did with Anders, and include her.
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>mfw solas BTFOs dalish assholes by revealing their tattoos were originally not applied for representing their gods but put on slaves by their owners

fucking elves, when will they go extinct
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>>375914182
>when will they go extinct
Never ever, shem

Elves are going to rise up and rule the world (again)
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>He trusted an elf
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>>375908651

I love how Inquisition managed to make everyone just plainly unlikeable with very few irredeemable qualities.
>Quinari are retarded and unable to do anything on their own
>Dalish go full racist dickwads even more so than before, making you feel no pity whatsoever anymore and just want to wipe them out
>Flemmeth introduced just to be discarded
>Morrigan introduced just to discard her child from the storyline in the event that you even had the child because they realized the choice was too path-splitting and they didn't want that burden
>LOLiana's many what-the-fuck endings

>half your party is just unlikeable assholes advocating willing stupidity
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>>375910098
>ever allowing Sera to touch the soil of the Inquisition

Fucking inane piece of shit, I don't think I've ever felt so morally disgusted by having a subhuman around. Barring Vivienne.
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>>375908651
shit game shit story. Everything after the first game is cancer.
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>>375914637
>he didn't like the ending where your warden ends up marrying the Divine
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>>375910650
This actually made sense when you realize that to the Qunari, the physical form is a meaningless abstraction in the face of their perception of reality.

The Qunari don't really have much of a firm grasp on reality.
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>>375914637
>>Morrigan introduced just to discard her child from the storyline in the event that you even had the child because they realized the choice was too path-splitting and they didn't want that burden
I will never deal with this. The god-child thing was the most interesting thing in the entire series and then Kieran happens.
But don't worry, I'm sure DA4 will have plenty of Templars vs Mages for the fourth time even though literally no one finds the conflict interesting.
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>ywn redpill autistic naive merrill on how the world really works and have her live only to make you happy

jdimsa
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>>375915030
Is her rivalry romance any good?
She's so innocent i felt like an enormous asshole for being a bully to her.
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>>375914968

It's okay, anon. Now Morrigan can be a single mom in her 40's, which according to Inquisition is all she could have ever want.
Because fuck everything.
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>>375915030
Thanks for reminding me I need to buy this guy's sets, desu.
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>>375912386
i loved the fuck out of fallen london and sunless sea, i hope kennedy does the series some justice, though failbetter games (and probably kennedy by default) is kind of sjw oriented in a way so who knows what direction it'll go
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>>375908651
>Tfw mages are the jews of the fantasy world
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>>375914940
Except that doesn't follow. Sten commented on the fact that women simply don't fight and that they were going against the natural order. If there was a such thing as just announcing you're a man, why didn't he just assume all the women in your party identified as men? Why were there literally no breasted "male" Qunari in all of DA 1 or 2?
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>>375914940
It doesn't make sense at all considering the Qun's depiction in the previous two games.
Trans people are explainable in modern society due to psychology, how are Qunari supposed to tell womeone who "is one gender but born another" from someone who just fakes it to get a different job? Sten and the Arishok are literally baffled by women fighting, if they did know about Aqun-Athlok they would have reacted in a completely different way.
It's pretty obvious the Qun was supposed to be this grimdark dystopic thing but then got changed just to be "inclusive" with no real thought behind it (see the heavily criticized trans character in Andromeda) without thinking about the plot holes this would generate.
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>>375915242
>Is her rivalry romance any good?
It's interesting, especially in its departure from the Friendship romance - Hawke essentially takes the exact opposite opinion that she does in the Friendship route; ie that blood magic is too dangerous for any one person to use safely, and that Merrill is silly for thinking otherwise. Personally, I prefer the Friendship romance (it's warmer, and both because I agree with Merrill and because I don't like being mean to her) and Merrill's character development on the Friendship route, but if you're interested in her as a character the Rivalry one is probably worth seeing once, like Isabela's non-romanced rivalry. before you hate yourself for being such a monster
It's definitely the most well-handled and natural of all the Rivalry romances.
>She's so innocent i felt like an enormous asshole for being a bully to her.
Agreed. Merrill is far too innocent and pure to bully, I like how adorably clueless she is anyway.
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Am I worthy of qunari cock?
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>>375917829
fucking nasty
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>>375910525
>sjw
>liking cass
literally impossible
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>>375917829
worstromance/10
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>>375917829

The character gen in DA:I is so ugly. It's like a horrible mixture of animu plus western realism.
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>>375918135
it's not about feelings you know ;)
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>>375918198
shittaste/10
If you romance it and kill the Chargers, does it still turn on you in Trespasser?
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>>375910426
that's the point
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>>375912386
Nice, just checked out his twitter account, doesn't seem to be into political shit, usually just jokes.
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>>375910013
>>>375909314
>So you plan on crushing any sort of semblance of RPGness in this game.

Planescape torment had one character as mc and it's called on of the best RPG. Are you too underage that you can only mention games from the beginning of 00s?

Fucking neo/v/
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>>375913445

I think the game is more interesting if she absorbs the elf shit. Either way, depending on what it was that Mythal did in the ending (I'm supposing she got the archdemon soul from the kid to bait Fen'Harel into taking her soul while having a spare), Morrigan might have an important role to play still.
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>>375910105
Cagliostro?
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>>375918198

You would become the bdsm bitch to a giant ugly-ass, back-stabbing manchild that was entirely written with the only purpose to be the romance interest of Dorian to please his writter?
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>375910235
I liked the Descent the most, to be honest. But then again I always liked long segments were a party has to punch its way through a huge dungeon and go deeper and deeper to fight weirder and weirder monsters.
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>>375910376
Her romance is cute as fuck ta ba hanast fampai. Best sex scene too.
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>>375920036
>only purpose to be the romance interest of Dorian to please his writter

What?
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>>375918818
Yes
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>>375921160

He bangs Dorian if you don't romance either. And they even get a customized ending for that if it happens.
Only characters in the game that can happen for.
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>tfw it's too cold
>tfw solas won't notice me
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>>375911080
All the writers from Inquisition are still there, nothing changed. You are thinking about the guys at Montreal, those who worked on Andromeda.

The only thing that changed is the Lead Writer: Gaider left and now Weekes leads the team. He wrote Trespasser and you can already see the better quality, so I've got hope for DA4.

Also this >>375912386 Alexis is working directly with Weekes and Laidlaw and he already wrote The Last Court, that web browser game set prior DA:I, so he knows his stuff.
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>>375909123
>Ignis I need you to stay here and guard this modron cube for a sec.
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>>375916239
The last part is valid, but Sten does eventually rationalise boobed-fighters as "oh you're just fucking men with tits I get it" in DA:O.

I didn't play DA:I because I actually purchased DA:2 and am doing penance in a serbian prison for this, but isn't Ironic Bull supposed to be a spy or something? It stands to reason Sten being your average frontline soldier doesn't really understand the concept but this guy has at least a way to rationalise it within the qunari caste system. They both arrive at the same conclusion: men with tits.

This doesn't explain why you don't see any female qunari in DA2, and I'm not going to try and defend poor writing, but I can at least suggest that there is some internal logic that is consistent between this apparent travesty and the original presentation of the qunari in the first game: appearance doesn't ULTIMATELY seem to matter if you can demonstrate capability in your role.

That doesn't mean the Qunari aren't telling every teenaged wolfkin trying to say they're an accountant stuck in a breeder's body to fuck off or get lobotomized, but it might imply the qunari have a little wiggle room for square pegs in round holes when the peg is worth enough to bother keeping.


That's about as far as I can go to defend bad writing, the rest is just entitlement and being progressive.
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>>375921507
>>tfw solas won't notice me
Ask more questions.
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>>375910650
But you can skip this segment.
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>>375922650

It still exists even if you pretend it's not there.
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>>375910013
You don't need to create your own character for a game to be an RPG.
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>>375909314
eww
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>>375922904
quit circlejerking, idiot. we get it, witcher. can we fucking move on now. christ.
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>>375922904

And yet it becomes 900% more dull because I lack the choice to do so.
I don't give two shits about Geralt, I want to interact with the world on my own account.

It doesn't make it any less of an RPG, but it makes it an entirely different kind of.
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>>375923316
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>>375921575
>Gaider left and now Weekes leads the team. He wrote Trespasser
>he wrote the only good thing about DA:I
Optimism is back!
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>>375923593
Trespasser wasn't good and Weekes is responsible for some of the biggest shit in DAI. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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>>375923915
>Trespasser wasn't good
I thought it was pretty good, and it was a wast improvement over most of the base game.
>and Weekes is responsible for some of the biggest shit in DAI
I wouldn't hold him accountable for writing Iron Bull, considering it was written literally to be Gaider's fetish
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>>375923915
>Trespasser wasn't good
I disagree.
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>>375924156
I disagree with your disagreeing. The only thing I liked from it was the music, everything else was meh or dumb, especially Solas and his motivation. I wish the game would've let me ask that if his previous two plans backfired spectacularly then what makes him think the third time will work out for him.
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So the protagonist of DA4 is going to be the Inquisitor right? What was that rumor about them talking about how they're making animations for amputees?

How on earth will a 2H specialized Inquisitor work then?
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Eh, Trespasser was mostly good because it was short and focused instead of filling up empty maps with mining nodes and sudoku puzzles.
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>>375924362
>How on earth will a 2H specialized Inquisitor work then?
SPIRIT HAND
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>>375924362
I think it's gonna be a new Descriptive Title main character but your Inquisitor has a cameo like Hawke in Inquisition
Tevinter has the Imperial Chantry, so the whole Inquisition plot device wouldn't be as strong for a protagonist gimmick
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>>375924362
Highly doubt it would be the Inquisitor, he literally says "My adventuring days are over.: I really hope it's going to be a band of whores and thieves kind of thing. Considering it's going to be Tevinter, that should be easy.
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>>375914940
>>375916818
>Qunari talk about kindness to animals
>chain up a dragon in a cruel experiment

Qunari do NOT have a good grasp on reality. By default if they do it, it's okay. If anyone else does it, it's wrong. That's how the Qun works.
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>>375925009
>I really hope it's going to be a band of whores and thieves kind of thing. Considering it's going to be Tevinter, that should be easy.
But whores and thieves are Antiva's shtick.

You're going to be a corrupt politician or a slaver in Tevinter.
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>>375925256
>You're going to be a slave
Fixed.
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>>375925256

That is never what YOU are, that is going to be if anything what you can interact with, and at most a party member or two if you get lucky.
Naturally Dorian will be there and be either a major character or a party member, so there's that to not look forward to.
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Why is everyone thinking Tevinter? Game's not even in development yet
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>>375925426
>best bro
>not look forward to
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>>375925427
Because the last scene in trespasser has the Inquisition planning on going to Tevinter with them talking about recruiting new dudes there.
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>>375925336
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>>375925336
>>375925562
>All you know are chains.
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>>375925427
>Game's not even in development yet
It is though.
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>>375925336
>you'll have to use that awful website to pick all your choices manually
>your inquisitor will act nothing like they did in the previous game
>you won't be able to recreate their looks properly
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>>375925762
Source? The reason we had to use Keep is because they switched the engine.
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>>375925559
I dissolved the Inquisition though.
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>>375925762
Another fine product from EA.

Let's face it,we get it despite EA, not because of EA.
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>>375925838
There;s still a stinger for going to Tevinter. A few lines swap but that's it.
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LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
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>>375915030
She's not that naive. She has all the streetsmarts of a doe she is, but when it comes to forbidden magic she approached it without dogma, but with care.
Not enough as it turned out, but she still ended up less fucked up than Anders.
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>>375908651
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
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imo they're going to make the player faction the Tevinter Templars, Dorian said they're kind of like a police force and aren't used to contain mages there since everyone is a mage anyways
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>>375925838
only difference will be in livery and maybe some in-game fluff
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>>375926728
I'd love that.
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>>375910152
After DAII, ME3, TOR, DAI, and MEA you still can have a modicum of hope from the only DLC Bioware released that was not complete shit? What are you, a Canadian?
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>>375925826
If you go to check the Keep now, there's a section for Inquisition.
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>It's whichever character you romance and/or have the highest relationship score with betrays you episode

Why doesn't that happen?
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>>375927187
>tfw I only bought the very first Dragon Age and pirated literally everything else from them
>still find an enjoyable time sink in all of Bioware's games and don't feel bad because I didn't spend a dime
ayyy
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>>375927525
Because we play games for escapism, not to be reminded of reality
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>>375925838
The "difference" that makes is that if you dissolved the Inquisition you'd have less forces to fight doggo with, though you do become the honor guard for whoever became the Divine.
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>>375927525

Because the majority of the playerbase would throw a major bitchfi about it as it would go against the main selling point of Bioware games of late which is the waifu satisfaction syndrome.
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>>375927618

Pretty much dis.
I didn't hate DAII barely at all entirely because I spent zinch on it. So while the hate train went aflame, I was getting amused by the terrible and pleasantly surprised on how fun the storyline became if you actually played a sarcastic Hawke and sent everyone to fuck themselves at earliest convenience.
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>>375913445

I'm actually rather sure that Morrigan will be important in DA4. Mythal is not dead, Flemeth sent her to Morrigan. Now it's up to her to accept it or not. If it would overwirte her personality, that would be sad as fuck but is what her fear has always been. So in case she actually accepts it, something horrible has to happen to convince her to.
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>>375927504
Maybe it's for the chucklefucks who didn't play DA:I but want to play the sequel.
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>>375928030
>Taking away Morrigan's personality

I don't think even Bioware's writting team is as mentally challenged to do this at this point seeing as how the woman has been largely the selling point of the series for so long and inspired a wildfire of media entirely on her behavior.

Then again, they did write Inquisition and that managed to be worse than DA2 in writting, so who knows.
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>>375928214
I would really like to discuss which parts did you dislike about DAI;s writing.
>inb4 SJWs
Let's skip that one. Seriously though, DA2 does a lot of flubs here and there.
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>>375910467
Nope I'd rather get friendzoned by Varian
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>>375908651
>It's a morrigan and kieran skinship episode where the voice actors are real mother and son in real life as well
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>>375928803
Not him, but I disliked all of it. They fucked up the central theme of the game and that is religion by not doing absolutely anything with it, for starters. Then they made the worst/most boring companions in one of their games to date. Couple that with a generally VERY weak and generic story, weak quests, poorly written and acted dialogue that sounds like it was written by a low rent Joss Whedon and the fact that most of the story happens because characters in it are retarded.
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DA2 had a great story, it only fell apart in the end because they needed a macguffin to kickstart the 3rd act and obviously laziness or development time (or both) made that anders out of nowhere
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>>375928803

Eh, I don't care about SJWs. I mean sure, it's terrible in it's own way, but that really isn't what makes the writting bad on my account.

My biggest issue with Inquisition is how largely split the world lore and the main storyline feel.
When you are actually exploring the world, the little details and interactions with small things (such as codex storylines) feel like they have received intrincate attention to make you understand the world.

Then you go on to the actual storyline and it feels like everything not only happens in under two minutes, but also through a rollercoaster of simplistic behavior.
The whole arc dedicated to the Grey Wardens just feels like someone in there went mentally challenged. I grasp that there are explanations to their behavior, but it doesn't change the fact that there could be so many factors involving past or current influences that could have led to more than "they evil, keelz them >:(" or "they okay, BUT STILL", the fact they even tackle in the possibility of
>hurdurr sacrifice party member for the greater good
and that can even be such a cheap shit choice as Alistar/Loghain or Hawke dying where it basically feels like you shaft yourself for not following a world where you can just sacrifice the token dude nobody cares about, just goes to show that while it's clear they attempt to stick to their "choices!" antics of the past, they really booby-trap most things so that it either feels wrong or unfitting not to follow what they planned for the canon.
The whole Kieran fiasco with Morrigan turning into basically just a MILF for the dudes that want her to be around with no ambition or care other than the well be of her inane child, for one, was very frustrating.
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>>375929119

>Name of her son is Odin Black
How hardcore is this? How are you supposed to live up to that name?
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>>375929434
I see, good points. I did play the game finishing up all areas with Even Ground on before starting the ball quest. Nothing you do gets brought up, Also, that sacrifice thing was stupid since all your guys could have done was run.
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>>375930089
>Nothing gets brought up

Pretty much that sums my main gripe.
Your Inquisition can range from an absolute group of nobodies that never helped anyone or did jack shit to multi-dragon-slayers that conquered every threat in the world single-handedly, became friends with every international aristocrat in the list and held seven fucking grand festivals per high dragon sightings.

And it changes
absolutely
nothing
in any way
whatsoever.

How pitifully shit is that?
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>>375929119
DELETE
Kieran is not for lewd!
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>>375929119
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>>375932045
It's just mother and son bonding, nothing lewd about it.
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>it's a /v/ doesn't think Morrigan is a terrible person, terrible mage, and terrible party member episode
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>>375932506
>It's another triggered goodie two shoes player episode
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>>375932684
Nah, more like Sten's brand of pragmatism and honor code.
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>>375909123
In his defence, he isn't exactly "stable".
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>>375925426
Makes sense. We got anders in awakening and 2, and Varric in both 2 and inquisition, and Dorian is going to be in tevinter anyway, so he'll likely be a party member, or a role similar to the advisors.

Also fuck you, Dorian was best boy in inquisition. Not that he had much competition though with blackwall and bull.
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>>375932447
>nothing lewd about it
I don't believe you. Delete it right now, anon.
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>>375933205
ghei
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>>375932864
Sten and Morrigan LITERALLY fucked, anon.
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>>375918187
Huh?
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>>375934540
>that giant fucking forehead
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>>375934540
Holy fucking shit that disgusting chin/jaw. Like Gollum after plastic operation.
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>>375910098
>The romances that involve getting tits out are best
dam nigga thats true
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>>375934540
How is that supposed to prove him right?
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>>375934882
My bad boys, posted the wrong guy.
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>>375934990
Much better.
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>>375935127
Better angle.
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>>375932506

I like her exactly because she's a terrible person.
And I have never played for an opimal party setup so it's irrelevant on her output.
I don't even dig chicks so it ain't even waifu complex.

I just enjoy a bit of difference spice in my mix every now and then, and yes, even an unlikeable antagonistic cunt that just enjoys destroying everyone's hopes for her own sarcastic amusement and thinly veiled bitterness at not having the same opportunities as the rest of the world adds to that.
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>>375915719
sjw oriented? How? Is it because you can play as an "it" in Fallen London, or have people call you "sir" when your portrait is clearly female? Because that's the only sjw stuff I can think of that they've done, and it makes perfect sense in the setting they've made.
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I just realized that I pretty much hate every single person I have ever encountered in all the DA games.

I cannot think of a single character in ANY of these games where I didn't think "Wow, fuck you too." to at least once.
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>>375934540
Reminds me of Obi-Wan from Episode I.
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>>375915719
>i loved the fuck out of fallen london and sunless sea, i hope kennedy does the series some justice,
Exquisite taste, anon.
I think he will, since The Last Court proved he understands the lore and themes of Dragon Age perfectly, and combined with his character and narrative/descriptive writing style it was fantastic - it's actually my favourite of all the DA writing as far as lore is concerned. That said, I'm a sucker for his style.

I wouldn't consider Failbetter or Alexis in particular to be SJW-oriented; if anything they're inclusive without being moralistic, and their inclusiveness with regards to how you define your character/how they're addressed and romance fits perfectly in their setting.
I mean, there are people with squid faces walking around! One can't be too picky with one's bunkmates.

>>375919312
Yeah, Alexis is a pretty sensible guy. He was lead writer for Fallen London and Sunless Sea, so he's got a good style.

>>375935384
Sometimes people dislike devs who don't limit romances to gender/character type, for example, but I like it myself. Who knows, could just be the vibe of the company and their fanbase.
Also, good timing, friend!
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>>375908651
its a long running theme in Dragon age that mages are the cause of all the worlds problems.
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>>375908651
To be fair Bioware only knows how to tell one story and then repackage it differently. Not to mention there's maybe 10 hours of story in a game that can take you 60+ hours to finish.
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>>375936017
>(((mages)))
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>>375921507
isn't literally the only reason to play as female elf to romance solas? I sure love arbitrary romance lockouts.
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>>375936309

Racism is fine if it is the fantasy kind.
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>>375936017
Only from DA 2 onward. Loghain, Arl Howe, Branka, and the Archdemon were 4 of the 6 major villains in Origins and none of them were mages.
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>>375935946
Wish more people talked about Fallen London, it's an absolutely fascinating game.

At least Sunless sea gave it some attention.
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>>375934540
the fact that bioware has absolutely shit character creation despite "make your own main character" being one of its selling points absolutely baffles me
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>>375924501
>Eh, Trespasser was mostly good because it was short and focused

Exactly. Bioware jumping to OPEN WORLD bandwagon has just exemplified what a shoddy developer they've become because they need to take a different approach to storytelling now. One that doesn't work for what they used to be good at.
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>>375936465
But the master villain who set it all in motion was a darkspawn mage
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>>375911305
>only men fight
woman wants to fight but is woman
>you a man now- have fun fighting

the qun is autistic
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>>375936513

Is it? The only Fallen London that comes to mind is that one horrible looking cellphone game.
Am I missing out on something great?
pls elaborate
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>>375936465
It made sense because in DAO/Ferelden mages were kept under strict control, they couldn't really be anyone important.
Then they turned mages into dindu nuffins, templars into literal nazis and trivialized demonic possession
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>>375932506
>has no obligation to help you yet is perhaps the most helpful party member
>mages are OP so it doesent even matter - DA is not esports
>has some of the best banter/ romance
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>>375936776
Well, it doesn't LOOK great. The main draw is the crazy setting and the mysterys. Not popular enough to have all its secrets posted online, so if you want to learn things you have to work for it.
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>>375927948
>stern and no-nonsense female character going over the death of her husband
>makes a new life for herself and advances to become the captain of the guard
>bioware has to shoehorn in idiotic teenage romance shenanigans

they ALWAYS do this and I don't get it. is it suppose to humanize characters? because if it is they really can't dose it right and it becomes annoying, just like cassandra and "muh smut literature". I guess it's supposed to be cute but just comes off as devaluing the character and makes her incapable of consistent personality.
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>>375937092

Does look terrible, but certainly doesn't sound so.
I know it sounds lazy, but mind telling me more or less how the game plays? Trying it out blind tends to be sketchy as some games have awful startups and git gud after a while, per example, so I'd like an informed opinion first.
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>>375937138
Fangirl material. Core RPG fans are no longer Bioware's target demographic even though they're the poor sods that still keep buying these games.
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>>375937138
Gotta pander to tumblr somehow
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>>375936513
>Wish more people talked about Fallen London, it's an absolutely fascinating game.
>At least Sunless sea gave it some attention.
I agree, though I have to admit I did get into the game through Sunless Sea. A friend recommended by FL a while ago but I forgot about it completely.
We actually had quite a few good Sunless Sea/Fallen London threads last year, though they've slowed down considerably, with some really interesting discussion.

Fascinating is definitely the best word to describe it. I haven't played for very long (I'm in various stages of the beginner storylines) but what I have seen is absolutely enthralling, especially Christmas and the Feast of the Rose. I think I'm lucky in that I'm familiar with at least some of the world from Sunless Sea, but actually going through the stories, finding out the context of the world and experiencing the choices for myself is really enjoyable.
I'm really looking forward to Sunless Skies, too.

That guy in your image was clearly insane, but I love it.
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>>375937451
It's very easy to start playing, but the way the game works is you have a hub of storylets that are essentially things that you can do, and what story paths you have access to is based on your character's location. In that screenshot I'm in a place called Veilgarden. Choosing one of the stories leads me to another page where I have options to do things related to the story, which might require that I use items I have or roll the dice on a challenge based on the attributes I have, which you can see on the left side of the screen there.

It's like a very intricate extremely long choose your own adventure book with RPG elements.
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>>375938140

Sounds interesting enough to be worth delving into, I've ran out of both games and books to tinker with, it certainly merits a go. Thanks for the info!
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>>375937451
The gameplay is pretty barebones. You get a limited number of actions, which you spend on activities in the game. The activities succeed or fail based on your skills + and RNG like in a tabletop RPG. The activities provide you with one or more currencies, develop your skills, and advance the story. As the game progresses, you may also spend (bet) currencies on activities. Most of the appeal is the text, which lets you learn more about the setting (which, despite its steampunk aspirations, is quite original) and go through fun little adventure stories. I've enjoyed it, in spite of myself, for at least the last couple of months.

It's free to play, but you can buy more actions or buy into "premium storylines" that they post at least once a month.
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>>375908651
>Make cool race art in character creator section
>Characters you can make, Qunari and elves especially, can't even come close to how they look on the race selection screen
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>>375938323
I hope you enjoy, delicious friend.

Please try the Rubbery Lumps, and do be careful in the House of Mirrors.
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>already played through with Cole in my party
>never recruit sera
>varric is useless

What do I do when I don't want to play a rogue myself?
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>>375915824
what are dwarves you dip
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>>375908939
Unless he dislikes you

If they only had time to make the ending where he drags inquisitor by the arm to the Eluvian and chops their arm off by closing the portal Tresspasser could have been that much cooler.
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>>375938323
If you tell me you're name, I can add you on there.
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>>375936776
>>375937451
>>375938323
>The only Fallen London that comes to mind is that one horrible looking cellphone game.
Well, anon... I play it through my browser, like a philsitine

The other anons have the right of it, it doesn't look great and navigating the interface can take a little bit to get used to, but the writing ranges from good to incredible to insane (and fantastic), while being very memorable, and has one of my absolute favourite settings and lore ever. It's definitely worth a try, at least.
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>>375938323
Good luck, anon! I hope you enjoy it.

>>375938701
>Destiny
Did you get that from A Conversation on the Road?
If so, was it any good/have interesting lore? I saw Authority and The Road at Christmas, and prefer Authority.
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>>375940005
I'll be honest I've had this character forever and I really don't remember.
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>We'll get to purge elves from the face of Thedas

at long last
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>>375938568
Who are the elves in the card art anyway, they don't look like any sort of elf in any of the games, city elf or wild. There are no tattoo selections like theirs and that shit is supposed to be important isn't it?
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I have successfully whored myself into a painter's house and convinced him to kill himself on the long run by playing a dangerous game he probably wouldn't have considered had I not otherwise pushed him into it.

Life is great in the Neath.
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>>375910650

It makes totally sense when you understand that to the qunari, your role matters more than free will.

Bull is trying to be nice to Krem, because reality is the qun forcing gender roles on individuals, even when they don't want to, because it serve the society better. So, someone like Cassandra would probably be forced to live as a man.
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>>375942875
I want to enslave an elven qt3.14 and force her to give me a footjob.
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>tfw just found out locked doors can be opened by warrior and mage skills, so i don't even need to bring the awful rogue companions with me ever again
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Solas is one of the best Bioware characters in a very long time.
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>>375946450
Wow what an achievement.
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>>375946450

I hope you mean in Tresspasser, because before that he's just a flat Every Elf Ever with scarcely anything outstanding to his hippie behavior.
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Postan'
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>>375946559
He was great in the vanilla game, as well. He wears part of his true self to hide his identity, it's clever writing and unique.
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>>375946404
not in dai
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>>375946618
>it's a booker went to the wrong lighthouse episode
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>>375946780
i am talking exactly about dai
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>>375946771

The slivers of it that may come out may be, but he is still unengaging and very flat to interact with. All he adds is to be a walking monologue encyclopedia with the occassional anger outburst at ignorance, a role that could be carried out by just about any other stuck up elf in any medieval writting ever.
Sadly nothing of his hidden persona actually peaks in the normal writting of the game unless romanced, and who would do that if not really invested in hopefully turning him less flat?
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>>375946780
Shield bash. Don't know/remember what mage power can do it.
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>>375925009
He also says "We will fix this", "We will help our friend", "The war is over... for most of us." Orlais and Ferelden hold him responsible for Solas and the Qunari and Bioware said multiple times that they removed the Anchor only to show that closing Rifts was a thing of the past and that it concerned only Inquisition. They didn't do that to make him unplayable.

Honestly, the Inquisitor is the only protagonist who would make sense: why would a literal nobody get invested so much in this cause, when they don't even know Solas and have no hope of making him change his mind? The Inquisitor doesn't even have a personality like Hawke, he would sound out of character all the time if he was a cameo.

>>375924362
Yeah, Bull was supposed to have a prosthetic arm which could be upgraded and turned into a gaatlok cannon. They made animations for that kind of stuff, then they simply removed two of his fingers and called it a day, but it means a lot that they worked on that.
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>>375946896
there are scripted things like walls to break with a warrior, or a bridge to repair with mages, or using a fire spell to melt some ice, things like that, but you cannot open locked doors that require a rogue with spells.
I have like 200h in DAI and unless they changed that for some reason recently I know for a fact its not possible.
The locked doors require inquisition perks that you earn rather slowly at the beginning, it would be stupid to make them pointless.
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>>375947003
Because a nobody isn't /know/ to Solas. He infiltrated the Inquisition and understand it inside out, thus why the Inquisitor must now work in the shadow.

If BioWare is smart: the next pc is a true pawn (unlike the Inquisitor, who was played by Solas but had agency) to the Inquisition; and let us confront Solas as the Inquisitor in the final decision with him.
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Who's in your party goys? Currently not that far in story wise, still have to start the mainquest in redcliffe. Have already done everything I can in The hinterlands, stormcoast, forbidden oasis and mire already though.

Running with poison/archery varric, heal/freeze solas, two-handed/vanguard blackwell and me as a human pyro/electric mage.

Btw how do you unlock further (dlc)areas?
Is that locked behinf the main quest?
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>>375947531
>If BioWare is smart: the next pc is a true pawn (unlike the Inquisitor, who was played by Solas but had agency) to the Inquisition; and let us confront Solas as the Inquisitor in the final decision with him.

That might work, but it would also upset people a lot: many are expecting to get more closure, especially with romances. Playing 95% of the game with a romanced Dorian in the party or confronting a romanced Solas throughout the game with a nobody would be pretty lame, especially if the Inquisitor can suddenly be controlled only at the end for "one final decision". Making sure people are happy with the romances is one of the biggest objectives Bioware must have.

The Inquisitor can still work in the shadows, it's not like Solas and his agents won't discover who their new friends and allies are. What the Inquisitor really needs to do is stop working behind the Inquisition's façade and become a less important and "cumbersome" figure, and that's exactly what happens at the end of Trespasser, no matter the choice: either the Inquisition is disbanded and the Inquisitor only controls a small, unnamed organization, or the Inquisitor loses almost all their power and influence, giving the reins to the Divine and being free to act as they most prefer.
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>>375949041
>Making sure people are happy with the romances is one of the biggest objectives Bioware must have.

the only romances bioware care about are: Morrigan, Leliana, Alistair, Liara, maybe Garrus.

I can see them "promoting" Solas and Cass for next game, Dorian...well, Gaider is gone thank god.
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>>375908651
Dude what the fuck how do you just spoil the game like that?
lol jk I don't give a shit about nu-bioware garbage
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>>375910098
Solas' romance is great, but Cullen's and Cass' are even better.
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>Romance Cullen with Bi-Cullen mod

UNLIMITED
HOMOEROTICISM
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>>375948463
Varric is the most useless companion in DAI, which is shameful because his banter is top tier. His entire toolkit is better for a melee rogue, but he cannot use melee weapons...so he stays at long range and puts traps at his feet which never activate. I would drop him and run with Cole or Sera, whoever you like more.
It's a bad idea to do entire areas and forget the main quests. Main story has specific levels to be done at, and have good rewards for those levels. You should've sided with mages (redlcliffe) or templars(therinfal) before ever setting foot in storm coast or the mire. More areas will come naturally with the story.
How to respec: buy an amulet from your blacksmith at the base.
Blackwall is the best tank in the game, and you should spent his points only in vanguard and champion, have him wear weapon and shield.
The entire frost mage tree is awful, for you and companions, with only fade step valuable. For damage mages, go fire mine + passives, then your specialization, and then a few good ones in storm tree. For support mage, any mage companion can do, and just max out the spirit tree, and some shit in lightning.
Optimal party for you is tank(blackwall or cassandra) + cole or sera(AI is shit for melee, never backstabs, play whoever you choose with a bow) + support mage(anyone, choose whoever's personality you prefer) + you, if we assume you will be playing knight-enchanter.

Enjoy, and remember, purge elves.
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>>375948463

Cole, Cassandra and Dorian tends to be what I bring around.
Simply because they are the least insufferable party setup.
My MC is a knight enchanter which is enough to just push a single button and win the game effortlessly.

Honestly, Cullen and Cole are the only good things of this game.
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>>375928212

It'll also be for plebs like me, who played DA:I on last gen so won't be able to transfer saves.
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>>375948463

GOD TIER
>Alistair, Top Lel, Morrigan, Merrill, Cassandra, Varric, Dorian
HIGH TIER
>Loghain, Dog, Isabela, Blackwall, Vivienne
OK TIER
>Shale, Sten, Bull, Cole, Solas
LOW TIER
>Oghren, Wynne, Zevran
MOD THEM OUT OF THE GAME TIER
>Anders, Aveline, Bethany/Carver, Fenris, Sebastian, Sera
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>>375950216
Thanks, although I know I shouldn't do all the side quests before the main ones, I can't help it. Just the autism. By the way, what's behind the big ominous door in the oasis?

Also, are there things that you should look out for because you'd miss them otherwise?
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>>375950985
>MOD THEM OUT OF THE GAME TIER
>Carver

get out
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>>375950985
>Vivienne, Alistair, Cassandra, and Blackwall
>Anywhere but trash tier

I at least understand Cassandra and Blackwall to the extent that they can't help being flat, boring, memetized characters whose only redeeming qualities are the "so randumb!" comedy moments attached to them, but I have no idea how can you excuse Vivienne and Alistair in any fashion.
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>>375950985
>Black bitch with cheekbones out the ass
>high tier

So which one is it?
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>>375950985
You are close to decent taste but then you fuck it up with shit like god tier merril. How could you even begin to think that
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>>375951220
Don't bother with the oasis unless you are a complete autist. You need to gather every single skull shard, there's like 120 of them, The reward behind the doors was 10 or 15% resistance to fire, spirit and ice.

For missable things: the only problem is the scanning sucks. You should actually mod your game to have the widest search radius and wallhack for item scanning http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1442/
Hopefully you're not on a console. There's a few must have mods like party banter fix, quick looting, and instant war table missions.

Also, the first 4 inquisition perks you should spend should be the 4 knowledge perks. You get more xp from each codex and unique dialogue in certain areas.

And here are the zones by level range:
http://game-maps.com/DAI/Levels.asp
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>>375951257
>>375951282
>>375951390
>>375951672
I don't know a single good thing to say about Carver.
I don't know a single bad thing to say about Alistair.
Vivienne has never been wrong about anything and puts everyone in their place.
Cassandra has a very interesting backstory and a good romance.
Blackwall is arguable, that I'll concede.
Merrill is UNDENIABLY god tier, one of the best companions in video games ever made. Kys yourself
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>>375952486

Vivienne is entirely wrong on every level about Cole and his utility. She's willing to automatically discard him over being a spirit; he turns out to be the best asset in the game by far.

Beyond being wildly racist and basically unlikeable, she's a backstabbing whore and only using you; has no interesting dialogues, no back-story to account for and provides nothing to anything but being bitter about things, even more so than Morrigan.

Alistair is an idiot that automatically drops every single responsibility upon the player character and willfully ignores his duty to impose his own morals at every given opportunity, bashes you for any morally questionable behavior, but never steps up to the task of taking the reins himself. Just throws bitchfits and stands in a corner every time things don't go how he wants them, then believes himself fit to be a king because he's "a good guy", when in reality he has the utility of a slug.
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>>375949408
>promoting Cass, who is busy rebuilding the Seekers and won't probably come back
>not Dorian, who is in Tevinter and has been unofficially confirmed to be back as a companion, written by Weekes

Dorian's and Solas' romances are the romances that people most enjoyed/the ones most discussed (for different reasons). They are inevitably gonna be the focus in DA4.
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>>375952486
>>375953567

Oh, and just because the bitch starts every sentence with an entirely forced and entirely out of place "My dear" doesn't make her "fancy", or anything but a flat hoe with no drive for that matter.
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>>375952051
I have autism. So far have done about 1.5 rooms of the elven temple
Luckily, I play the game on a bloodborne machine, kill me
Where to acces the dlc?
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>>375953856

They'll pop up on the map as you go along when availble. Should be right after a couple of main missions.
Tresspasser is after the end of the game tho.
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>>375953856
Game has a shitload of DLC what do you mean? The 3 story DLCs should be done after the main story, Hakkon->Descent->Trespasser
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I loved Origins but it's all downhill from there.

Nor do I have any hope they'll ever make another great Dragon Age game, it'll just be another mainstreamed hyper-SJW console game like Inquisition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0Py9jevJ4
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>>375910467
>he touches your penis
>still blows everything up

quality writing.
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>>375954658
>I was just sampling the goods, no harm done.

I feel the need of replaying this game.
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>>375954782
>you help him out
>he blows everything up
>reload the game and refuse to help him
>he blows everything up
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>>375910098
>Sera Romance
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>>375953687
Lmao no you gayfag
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>>375955745
Is actually kind of cute.
The romance I mean. Sera is still fugly.
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>>375950985
This it top tier taste.
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