just beat sonic 3. what does /v/ think about it? besides some

Sonic 3 & K is possibly the greatest 2D platformer ever created

>>375907792
Shame Sonic's sprite looks like garbage.

Looking good.jpg

>>375907654
>not playing sonic 3 complete hack instead
>with ice cap patched to it's original colors through s3complete.org/customiser/
>with "pick by zone" on the options for the most optimized musical experience
>with Big Arm boss put back in in Sonic's story
>etc.

Wtf OP

>>375907818
You take that back

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>mfw i never got into the debug menu

>>375907654
I thought it was ok 10 years ago when i first played it, then i revisited last year when sonic mania got annoucned and was just more annoyed by it then anything. I dont really like the music or level designs

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>>375907792
goemon's great adventure
rayman legends
dkc tropical freeze
kirby planet robobot
klonoa
little samson
sparkster

and that's just off the top of my head

sonic 3 isn't very good in my opinion

I was about to say colors and generations are both better but I forgot that they had 3D segments

>>375908841
>kirby anything
Oh please.

Also, Colors has dogshit level design and is overwhelmingly 2D.

>>375908841
>rayman legends
no

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>>375908471
No.

>>375907654
Sonic 3 best Sonic.

>>375908915
yeah you haven't played it and never will so fuck off you are completely ignorant of its quality

robobot is one of the greatest platformers of the past decade

>>375908985
Glad they ditched tubby Sonic.

>>375909031
FAT SONIC IN SONIC MANIA CONFIRMED

>>375908841
>DKC tropical dong
>not DKC2

>>375909013
You just implied Colors had any quality. Even worse, you implied 3D platforming is a detriment in a game that doesn't even have any. Your opinion is worthless, especially about the most overrated franchise of all time.

>>375907654
Sonic 2 is the only true answer.

>>375909740
das it mayne

what about 3D games though? personally ive always been stuck between adventure 2, unleashed, and colors.

>>375909902
All the 3D games are ass
Generations gets a pass but really it's not groundbreaking or anything, just plays it safe

>>375910039
nah

>>375910064
how dare you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyoMQg3d5cs

pure sex

>>375909320
Nice strawman you shit head retard.
I never said 3D was a detriment, the topic of discussion was 2D sidescrollers so that would mostly disqualify colors, "a game that doesn't even have any [3D sections]". Which it does. Jesus christ you are an idiot

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>>375909902
don't play 3d games.

>>375910221
>i'm sticking to the originals
>sonic adventure 2
Imagine the cognitive dissonance going on in that brain

>>375910293
Sonic Adventure 2 is the one you take umbrage with?

>>375910343
Didn't read Shadow the Hedgehog

>>375910293
can't be much worse than the people at /pol/ still praising trump after he's reneged on literally all of his campaign promises

>>375910087
no u

>>375910221
why?

>>375908841
>all these newfag babbys firsts
>a couple popular old games youtubers talked about

>>375910410
Why are you browsing /pol/ my dude

Sonic 2 was better.

>>375910472
entertainment

sonic cd has obtuse level design

>>375910520
You're mom's ass has obtuse level design

>>375910564
That is also a known fact

>>375908423

Link? I'll play it.

>>375910221
generations is good tho

>>375910812
>literally links it
>HURR GIB LINK
Really makes you think

>>375908841
>french rayman trash
>samey 3ds kirby game and not ssu
You have bad opinions on platformers and clearly don't have passion for the genre.

>>375909013
Even as a kirby fan this post is embarrassing.

>>375911050
generations was a schizophrenic mess

unleashed and colors were much better

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>>375911252
>unleashed

>>375911286
oh no, a reddit tier picture

i have been slain

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Sonicfag here
Here are the GOAT Sonic games
2D: 3&K
3D: idk Adventure or Unleashed?

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>>375911252
>colors

>>375907792
This
Not much more to say really

>>375911337
I can understand liking colors but who the fuck in their right mind would defend fucking werewolf sonic

>>375910106
fuck so fucking good

>>375907792
I don't disagree but I would recommend people to try out Rocket Knight Adventures and Mischief Makers. They're really up there as well

>>375910106
>that kid who only listens to sonic music
>not even this cool shit
>just the shit with lyrics from dreamcast or later era

>>375911394
heres my thought process

>unleashed: understands its strengths as the fastest game in the series, levels are giant courses that take advantage of sonics speed. at night the gameplay switches so you get a change of pace, with pure 3D platforming, collecting, combat etc

>colors: almost completely cuts the speed from unleashed as well as the 3D, but instead focuses on being a 2D puzzle platformer with powerups and exploration

>generations: tries to smash the speed of unleashed with the level design of colors, resulting in a mess, classic sonic levels are terrible

without the nostalgia wank, everyone would have shat on generations. its a very mediocre game.

>>375907792
>>375908841
yall forgeting yoshi island
>>375908915
go sit on spiky knob sonic is shit in every ways compared to kirby mainline

>>375911549
18+

What's wrong with 3D Sonic games?
Why so many people hate them? Is it just some "le epic oldfag" hipster shit?

>>375911768
snowball effect. it became cool in the mid 2000s to hate on sonic and that was that. there are some bad games, no one but a fanboy will deny that, but some people make it out like putting sonic 06 in your 360 will blow the console up and you will get shit rained on you.

>>375911768
They never were good
Sonic doesn't work in 3D

>>375911768
If they weren't Sonic games no one would even look at them for a second. They're just mediocre 3d platformers that carry the sonic name.

>>375911859
>i'm going to defend this bad game for literally no other reason than to be a faggot hipster

>>375911859
the only bad sonic game is sonic 06

>>375912060
oh and Sonic 1

>>375908841
>all that literally who vydia

>>375911920
defend what? sonic 06? no im well aware its a bad game but people act like its literally unplayable and terrible in everything. the game only shits itself if you go out of your way to break it, the story sucks but is at least eventful unlike the nu sonic games that are all copies of sonic boom, the art design is a mess in the hubs but the levels look good, and the music is good as always.

the game is below average and no more than a 5/10, but it works and is ironically more entertaining than a bunch of modern aaa slop that ubisoft shoves up your ass every year.

>>375911170
>>375911217

ssu is overrated

>>375912104
The fuck are you 12. All the games that guy posted were all well known games in their day
Maybe outting yourself as underage wasn't such a good idea

>>375907654

OK game. Best Sanic, which isn't saying much.

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>>375912162
Yeah because it's fucking good and deserves praise you braindead chimp. But no don't listen to me and keep playing Robobot where you have 50 different moves but enemies die in one hit so there's no way to chain into different things for fun, bosses have obnoxiously long invuln periods that are just boring for repeated sessions, a gimmick robot that's less fun than normal kirby, and an even gimmickier final boss. The 3DS Kirby's(And RtDL) are so fucking subpar.

>>375911547
The fuck? Colors has terrible level design. Generations is absolutely nothing like it. God damn. Is there a term for reverse nostalgiafaggotry? Because this is it.

>>375912307
And to add to this I think they were made with the mindset "Well everyone liked SS because of the movesets so lets make games like that." But got everything else wrong about why people liked SS.

>>375912390
thats subjective. however, the level design works with the overall pacing of the game and sonics speed.

generations modern levels are unleashed speeds + colors 2D platform heavy levels. its garbage. classic sonic is a failed abortion hat trick used to get bitter 30+ year old virgins to come back to the series after 15 years of #notmysonic

>>375908841
>Generations
>Better 2D Sonic
It doesn't even have the proper physics of a 2D Sonic game. Neither Sparkster game is better than the Sonic trilogy. If you said Rocket Knight Adventures I would have agreed with you.

>>375912515
>colors 2D platform heavy levels
What? Not at all. Colors is blocky, bland, slow and double jump reliant. Generations took clues from old design on both 2D and 3D.

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>>375908841
>sparkster instead of rocket knight adventures

>>375912606
yes, using abilities to traverse platforms is platform heavy. it failed on both fronts since modern sonic controls like a dream at high speeds but sucks at low speeds. classic sonic doesn't play anything like the actual classic sonic. don't you get it? everything in generations was designed for the average journo to say "oh wow haha i remember that! green hill with muh old sanic...back in 1991 when i wasnt born yet and it was great man :)"

colors was the last good sonic game.

>>375912775
First of all, Colors was never good. Second, wisps are platforming-killing gimmicks that should have been buried with LW. You want to complain about physics, fine, I agree, but the level design was pretty great. It moved away from that DIMPS inspired shit on Colors and brought back fast paced platforming that was kinda there in Unleashed and improved it.

>>375913058
colors was always good as it took unleasheds gameplay, the first fully stable gameplay engine in all of 3D sonic, and redid it with a twist. the music and art design are also top notch, and it pushes the wii to its limits while also being beautiful, as all of sonic team's wii games did.

we are going nowhere with the level design, so i will just agree to disagree with you. they need to bring back the director of sonic unleashed and sonic colors and make an all new game without classic sonic bogging it down. perhaps they can have modern sonic be all 2D and another character do the 3D platforming? or the opposite? either way works for tbqh

Why does SEGA insist on giving away their flagship IPs to literally who devs

I mean now they have no choice since all their talent left the house besides AM2 and the Yakuza devs, but why were they so fucking retarded over the years

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>>375913417
They just need to pick the right literal whos.

>>375913534
To be fair the first game was pretty shit though. They kind of nailed it by accident in the second.

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>>375913534
SEQUEL WHEN

>>375913368
I agree, actually. I just find Colors a garbage platformer boosted by people scarred by 2k6 and werehog.

>>375913615
True, but SARST wasn't an accident, they absorbed Bizarre Creations (Blur) and Black Rock (Split Second) people after they went down. God knows if they're still around after Sumo was doomed to churn out shovelware starting with LBP3 though.

>>375907654
It's my favourite game of all time, so yeah I think it's pretty good.

>>375912193
>little samson
>sparkster

Jej

>>375913615
I liked the first one just straight up track racing.

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>>375907654
My favorite game of all time

>>375907654
It's been consistently my top game for years, so I think it's pretty good.

I am quite excited and cautious about Mania.

>>375908841
>Goemon
Lol no.
People hate carnival night barrel when 3-1 in this game is just a giant middle finger.

>rayman legends
I can give you this but that's all about tastes.

>dkc tropical freeze
lol no.

>kirby robobot
Not superstar ultra, and kirby is braindead easy. I love him too thou.

>klonoa
Are you fucking serious?

>little samson
This one I didn't know until now. Thanks anon.

>sparkster
>not rocket knight

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>>375911768
>>375911859
I saw this as a big fan who grew up with Sonic, every single 3D Sonic game has multiple enormous fatal flaws in game design in one way or another that you have to get past to get any enjoyment out of them. Anyone who denies this is a blind fanboy or an idiot, ESPECIALLY regarding Sonic Unleashed which is easily the most overrated game in the franchise.

>>375914669
Colors is more overrated. SA2 is still king though.

>>375907654
S3&K is a childhood fav and I play through it every few years

>>375914748
SA2 is trash and not as good as SA1.

>>375914653
Klonoa is the only passable one on the list

>>375914814
I meant king of overratedness.

SA is crap too.

>>375914947
Oh. SA1 isn't a good game either but it's better than 2, the non-sonic sections are bearable and sometimes even fun while the non-sonic sections in 2 are genuinely fucking painful.

>>375915253
The Sonic/Shadow sections in 2 are also worse purely because of the broken grinding mechanics.
Also 1 doesn't have a fanfic-tier story.

The Sonic 3 half of the game is definitely the better half of the game, minus the barrel.

I was so buttmad when both versions of Generations used levels from the S&K half, I mean, the fuck? Mushroom Hill? Who wanted this?

>>375916136
Shit taste

>>375916136
mushroom hill is good though

>>375916267
>>375916358

Yeah, but we could have had Hydrocity, or Launch Base, or from the S&K half, Lava Reef or Flying Battery. Also one version should have had a Sonic 3 level, the other a level from S&K. In order to make it balanced.

>>375916925
>tfw no ice cap that also had elements of Adventures version in modern sonic's stage

>>375907654
isnt this pretty much the only sonic game that doesnt start in green hills zone?

>>375917298
There are several games that don't start with a Green Hill copy.
Hell Route 99 in Advance 3 isn't even a grassy area like most games.

>>375917493
well, all sonic games after the sega genesis are crap anyways

>>375908841
>sparkster
Rocked Knight Adventures was ten times better, you retard.

>>375917664
You're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.

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>>375907654
My favourite game of all time, also glad that we're finally getting a worthy follow up to it with Mania.