>Sony drops out of handhelds >Nintendo gets monopoly on

>>375894397

The handheld market is dying. The only place where it's still big is Japan, which is a country running out of young people.

Nobody makes games for the Vita though.

You made that post just so you can post that picture. Don't worry, friend! I know just the place where you can post that as much as you want!
>>>/e/

Good. The more jap devs that die, the better

>>375894506
Thanks for the input, Mory

>>375894397
Why are they crying?

>kosuge games and their kosuge creators dying

and nothing will be missed

>>375894693
Because Macron will win the elections

>>375894693
out of sheer joy

>>375894397
Going to mobile doesn't immediately mean your game will be shit.

You can choose not to be exploitive, and it's not Nintendo's fault if these devs choose to do so when they start to prefer mobile.

>>375894796

Except for when 90% of those are gachapon shit

>>375894693
poor textures

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Why would Sony make a Vita 2 when the original Vita was a bigger flop than the WiiU.
Say what you want about the piece of shit which was the WiiU, but at least people bought games for it.

Pic related.

>>375894796
Remember when the best selling Rune Factory made them go bankrupt?

On the 3ds you have to sell twice as much to break even and making games for it is a lot harder than the Vita

>>375894763
>kosu
Another retard spouting buzzwords he read from /v/. Then again, why did I expect any better?

>>375895005

You can't compare sales figures between a handheld and a home console though.
Even moreso when the handheld caters to a niche crowd.

and the Vita outsold the Pii U which is still hilarious

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>>375895075
So they should start making their games for mobile instead of the 3ds.

You're gonna tell me there are NO good mobile games?

>>375895005
People only bought those ten nintendo games and nothing else. If making Vita games wasn't worth it, they wouldn't be shitting out ten kusoge every month

I don't get why nintendo fans always act like "it sold less than a million? it's shit"

>>375895221

That mentality is literally what drove devs away from their system too. Only those who do multiplats remain

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PC will save weeb games, japanese devs are fully embracing steam and dropping sony trash. Even Atlus cannot resist those sweet steam weeb bux.

Also PC community is much better and much more active than sonybros evere were when it comes to weebshit.

>>375895124
>and the Vita outsold the Pii U which is still hilarious
Oh I agree, shit's funny as hell.
I wanted to compare it to the WiiU simply because comparing it to the 3DS isn't even funny as you have games like Pokemon X/Y which have sold roughly the same amount of copies as Vitas sold and that the Vita's best selling game would only be ranked 25th on the 3DS sales charts getting beat by the likes of trash like Paper Mario Sticker Star and Yokai Watch.

>>375894397
>They will keep fucking with small devs, censoring them and they will have to sell 100k copies just to break even
I understand what you're attempting to say, but truly small devs can live comfortably off of 100k sales, and that after Nintendo gets their cut.

What are these guys doing outside of Vita general?

>>375894397
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>>375895413

Despite the low hardware sales it still ended up being preferable to the 3DS by AA devs due to Nintendo's jewish practices and even gained the largest attach rate out of all the consoles currently out
Why you sound so triggered over that is a mystery though

>>375895389
What is the point of developing only ecchi games for Vita and Steam with no actual nudity? Do the community love teasing and moeshit so damn much to the point of not even wanting to see a nipple or what?

I think they could do better, honestly.

>>375894397
Is this that kawaii rail shooter game?

>>375895702
Nudity always looks like crap thpugh. Just see the Senran anime or all those crappy nude mods

The Vita will receive a successor this year. All those fucking leaks pretty much confirmed it, although it'll be at TGS instead of E3

>>375895669
>AA devs

You're lying to yourself anon. AA devs are all happily on Nintendo's platform. Sony took the B devs that barely need to sell 5000 to make a profit.

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>>375894397

>>375895702

A majority of Jap devs hate nudity in their gaming. Barely-clothed is more enticing to them and it comes with the bonus of being capable of adding it to consoles. All-age titles sell more than their counterparts nowadays

>>375895702

Because cocktease is way better than full blown nudity.

>>375895912
The only ones I've seen happy on Nintendo platforms are those who already have an established name on the devices from the DS era. Everything else has flopped or been overshadowed, and many devs have moved away from Nintendo due to the fanbase itself.
Even then those 3rd party sales are declining.
New Rune factory game NEVER EVER. EOV localization LITERALLY FUCKING NEVER

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://www.technopro-careers.com/archives/921&prev=search

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>>375895702

>>375895218
Mobile games aren't good, this is fact
Next you're going to tell me FE Heroes is good when in reality it's just a grind till you draw your waifu simulator

A vita 2 could be great. Nintenbros are just afraid of the potential it represents.

>>375894397
what game is this

peace signs are my fetish

>>375896414

Any what potential is that?

>>375896304
> Built-in software development for BD / DVD recorder equipment for game machines / audio / car-mounted equipment · Embedded software development for digital still cameras / camcorders / digital broadcast equipment etc. · Music application development for next generation portable game machines · BD Player and AV amplifier equipment Evaluation and defect analysis of HDMI / CEC function part · Software development on Windows which controls various measuring instruments and automates tests

Sounds just like a PSP 3

>>375896246
ah so its just opinions, I though you had facts... move along guys, nothing to see here

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>>375895005

A big issue with the vita is that from the already few owners, some only got it for a handful of games. Mine is a Vanillaware machine that also happened to ran Soul Sacrifice.

>tfw no mh on vita

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>>375896426
Bullet Girls 2.

>>375896556

Opinions from the devs themselves I guess

http://www.nariyukigame.com/archives/49199435.html

>>375896585
is it any good

i am a mere journeyman weeb seeking to improve my 日本語読む能力

>>375896637
>"Why is my garbage ching chong game not selling well?"
Wow, totally unexpected

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>>375896748
Hell of a lot better than the first one, I'll tell you that much.

>>375896835
But it's selling well

On the Vita

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>>375896835

Not even close babby

>>375896481
failure

>>375896637
That company isn't even big enough to warrant a wikipedia entry.

>>375896246

Neverland went out of business, as did imageepoch. The 3ds literally bankrupted them.

>>375896905
>>375896901
apparently the problem is marketing, on Nintendo platforms, you have to sell a certain amount to be considered good and have more presence in the store.

on Vita that doesn't matter, and since PS Plus gives everyone a chance to try your crappy game, if it's fun, then more people will probably be interested in your Next game.

that's what I got from >>375896637 not really an enticing reason, but I guess for really small devs it's important, medium/big devs should have no problem with this.

>>375894506
There are enough young people to support the industry, the real problem is that even the Japanese werent immune to the smartphone meme and with it smartphone gaming is cheaper and easier than buying a dedicated system.

Nintendo is going to have to switch focus to pre-phone aged children but even that is on the decline because toddlers to adolescents like tablets just as well if not more.

Face, its the end of an era. PCs will be gone soon enough and the only dedicated consoles will have some enormous selling point that can't be done on mobile device like VR or something of the sort.

>>375897141

That's what people have been saying though.
AA devs do better on Vita due to the fanbase for Nintendo being unfavorable to them.

>>375894397
why not the R-Zone 2?

>>375897107
totally not the "why haven't you hacked your vita yet" with games being able to be played before they even release.

>>375897282
it's not the fanbase though, its the marketing what he mentioned, with Sony giving out indies people can try them out and maybe they will buy a sequel, considering how most people have reacted to PS PLUS games over the last year, people don't even download the free games anymore cause they are "indie trash"

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>>375896748
It's pretty fun.

>>375897423
I hacked my 3ds, but buy every Nintendo game, because THEY deserve it

>>375897565
great, I didn't even hack mine, actually I did but then I unhacked it cause I'm one of those fags who don't enjoy gaming if I didn't actually earn the game.

>>375896637
Hey anon is the article saying only about the minimum run for Nintendo being too high? I wanna read it but google translate isn't good at translating the site. Also wouldn't it be better for low budget teams to go for eshop only release?

>>375897423
He specifically states that the Nintendo fanbase constantly mocks anything that isn't a big title and that sequels are next to impossible without half a million sales as once the fans view the game as bad, the franchise falls exponentially.
Even more, it says that a big part of the reasoning vita is preferred is due to the positive support given allowing more motivation for devs to create a sequel to their games.

The fans on Nintendo just don't do it for AA devs

>>375897424
fun isn't a very good indicator of goodness in something

>>375897794
>AA devs
Why do you keep insisting on calling them that? AA devs are just one tier below Activision and EA. They are not the people that make Hyperweeb Panty Simulator 13 for the Vita and expect to sell a few thousand copies.

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>>375897237
>PCs will be gone soon enough and the only dedicated consoles will have some enormous selling point that can't be done on mobile device like VR or something of the sort.
>implying

>>375894796
>Going to mobile doesn't immediately mean your game will be shit.
Yes, it does. It objectively does.

>>375894397

>Keep fucking with small devs
>Thats the reason Switch has so much Indie support
>Its piss easy to develop for Tegra
>Somehow censoring ( in this context on /v/ means that underage girls will be dressed ) is bad

>>375897794
>3DS players think our game is shit, our franchise suffers because of it

>Vita players think our game is shit, they will continue to support our games

Anon..... I don't know what to say, no matter the fanbase (if they can even call them fans) if a game is shit, the franchise will fall exponentially, it is even happening to Halo.

again this has nothing to do with fans, but with the developer itself, it seems that DEV just wants to shit out turds and expects people to always buy them.

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>>375897834
I thought the gameplay was good and I had fun with it.
Is that better?

>>375898036

That is literally not even what was said

>>375897917
VR wont be good enough to be worth the initial loss for a long while. And it might flop altogether and be replaced by something by an even shittier concept.

If we are lucky society will just collapse altogether and we can enjoy the spoils of a new dark age that might be more rewarding than vidya so perhaps it will all work out.

>>375895669
You have a very skewed perspective of what "AA" is.

>>375894397
>he thinks Sony doesn't censor nip games
Have you never touched a Vita or what? They remove shit all the time for western releases. And it's not as if the Switch is hard or costly to develop for either, so you're wrong about dev costs too.

>>375894397
>wanting to give Sony money ever again after Vita
Not even vitagen is this fucking dumb. Did you buy a PS4 and PSVR too?

>>375897237
>Face, its the end of an era. PCs will be gone soon enough

The retardation is astounding.

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>>375898442
>They remove shit all the time for western releases.
Sony doesn't. Localization does that.

>>375897679
The sales number required for a 3ds game to break even is twice of ps vita's number. But what puts off small B-AA devs off of Nintendo's platform is basically this : >>375897794

Most fans of Nintendo platform regards anything that isn't selling a million unit as a shit game. A franchise needs at least half a million units sold to even consider a sequel. On Vita, depending on the game budget, you can get by with 20k-50k sales. At 50k sales, you're pretty much guaranteed a sequel.

This is why on the 3ds you'd see very few games with millions of lifetime sales numbers, and on Vita (in Japan), you'd see many games with tens thousands sales numbers.

>>375898675
/v/ always thinks that it's Nintendo's doing whenever a non-Nintendo published game is censored on 3DS desu.

>>375898442
>One loli had their zipper pulled up, this another shoah
Sony never censors other people's games, their own publisher does

And every time they do, like Criminal Girls, everyone gets angry and the game flops

>>375898675
PROOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>375898726
>3DS
Irrelevant now.
>if it isn't seeking half a million copies, it's a shit game
A lot of the time, yes. Vita has very few games that are actually good, it's only deluded weebs that think shit like Dungeon Travellers 2 is good.

>>375898913
Switch is shaping up to be even worse

>>375897237
>being this retarded

>>375898726
With situation like this, smaller studios, and bigger studios wanting to try out their new IP while keeping the risk low, prefer to try it on the psv first. Once it's proven to be successful, then they'd start looking into expanding to other platforms.

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>>375898826
I must have forgotten that Criminal Girls flopped so hard they didn't localize the second game at all in English.

>>375899023
Based on what?

>>375899282
Every game on it costs a lot more than it would otherwise, indicating a huge Nintendo tax

>>375899351
only physical cause the carts cost more than dvd/blurays.

Digital games cost the same

>>375898913
>Irrelevant now.
And Switch will most likely be infested with the same "million sales or shit" fan base. As long as the situation with the fanbase doesn't change (and Nintendo also remains difficult to work with), small Japanese devs will be begging Sony for a successor to PS Vita because that's how many smaller studios survive against bigger ones, and Vitagen will keep on getting their reskinned Dungeon Travellers 2 that they will happily buy and drool to.

>>375899434
Vita games cost 40 with a card, I don't see how Bomberman can be 70

>>375899489
>Vita games cost 40 with a card, I don't see how Bomberman can be 70

it's not 70, it's 50..scratch that, its 40 on amazon right now, and the japanese version is 35

>>375894397
Vita killed the handheld market

>>375896409
>posts a good game

>but there are bad games, which means there cannot be good games

Really? Don't be stupid anon.

>>375899351
It's the cart cost.
They're using the equivalent of UHS-1 SD cards for games while the 3DS and Vita used pretty much class 4 equivalent SD cards. Vita games already cost 4-6 times what a bluray costs to make, and those topped off at 4GB max.
So even a 4GB Switch cart will cost quite a bit more than a 4GB Vita cart, which would be a substantial amount more than just pressing a bluray disk.

>>375899441
Those smaller devs will just move on to PS4. That's part of the reason why Sony has been pushing PS4/Vita multiplats so hard for the past 3 years. Mid-tier devs will stay on PS4 and do some Switch stuff too.

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>>375899280
Not that hard for NISA to publish anything if they keep their expectations low.

>>375898726

I want more source on your numbers anon, not that I doubt you but some previous posts I saw. It says that devs can get by with ordering around 1k-10k physical units basically low print runs or something. But with Nintendo they have to go with a minimum of 40k runs which is nowhere near your half million numbers. Which is why I said that it would be better for them to go digital only since there's no minimum numbers and they could go for physical when there's enough demand kinda like what wonderboy is gonna do with their physical release.

>>375899753
>Vita devs will move to a console that's even more dead than the Vita

You really think Dungeon Travellers 2 is going to sell in the West enough to make up for how dead consoles are in Japan?

>>375899489
Fuck off, Leaf.

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>>375899812
Keeping expectations low with some pleasant surprises doing very well has been Vita localization M.O. for years.

Cute 2D lolis doing cute 2D lolis things is the greatest gift I gave to Terra.

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>>375894397
Vita 2 won't fix anything. Nintendo may be a fucking jewish shilock company but they also hold all the great franchises that make having a handheld worthwhile. Vita has a laundry list of meh games while DS has a handful of top quality games on top of the meh games.

>>375900805
this

as much as I like weeb games, most of the weeb games found on the vita are bottom of the barrel, and this is coming from an anime fan.

3DS has quality Nintendo titles on top of some weeb games, though not as many as the Vita, I own both, but I end up gaming more on the 3DS than Vita

>>375900918
Like Link between worlds and the 200th Kirby Superstar rehash? No thanks

>>375901161
didn't play Kirby but Link between worlds was great

>>375895075
It was Lufia remake dumb vitafag

>>375901215
It was really ugly and dumbed down

>>375901314
not really, It looked good, it was kinda easy yes, but how easy a game is doesn't affect the quality of it, or else games like Senran Kagura, Uncharted and many others would be loathed because they are piss easy.... hell I'm still mad that player complained that Senran Kagura on the 3DS was hard and then they proceeded to make estival versus even easier....

anyway, even if it was easier, it's still a very good title, better than what most vita games offer. (I said most, cause I know Vita does have some gems)

>>375899753
>Those smaller devs will just move on to PS4
PS4 development requires bigger budget, which is out of the budget for smaller studios, which also means larger units sold needed to break even. Now, before you say "just go digital only", and to answer this anon here : >>375899827 , physical release is very important in Japan. Every shop has their own shop specific bonus for every game preorder, and every game website has a page dedicated to which store has what bonus, and a link to said store's preorder page.

As for the >>375899827 anon, the page linked earlier (nariyuki games) mentions that smaller budget games can break even at 10k sales when developed for the 3ds, compared to Vita at 5k sales. Ofc, the number varies wildy depending on the game's development budget, but in general the numbers required to break even when developing a game for 3ds is around twice of what's needed for the psv - in Japan that is.

The problem according to that page was the 3ds's fanbase which punishes anything selling below 1 million units, deeming the franchise as a shitty game. That new shiny IP that you painstakingly developed ended up in the trashcan just because it doesn't sell 1 million unit, even when it's profitable, and you'll have to develop something new from scratch. Again, in Japan, based on the rant of a small Japanese developer that nobody heard of before. Make what you will of it.

isn't there a safe space on /vg/ for these vitards to circlejerk their dead console? dumb weeb trash is now a staple on Steam. this moron going on about a space where small devs can thrive, gee surely small indies need the POWER OF VITA to grant their projects life. how do these delusion retards even function in society?

>>375901515
yeah, vitagen, they still shitpost here though

>>375901515
The power of vita allows them to spend 10k to develop their shitty assets, because nobody expects anything that looks good

>>375901448
>Vita does have some gems
Such as?
Im in dire for some good games right now

>>375896314
What is this? A picture for ants?

>>375901805
Fuck off mobile poster

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>>375901908
>he doesn't have the balls to browse /v/ in public

>>375901731
Muramasa, Dragon's Crown, Gravity Rush, Hot Shots Golf (for me)

>>375902517
>ports
welp

>>375901908
Question; why the hell would I ever post on my computer when the mobile site is literally just as good?

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>>375894397
>Please Sony, make a Vita 2!
You really think they want to fight Nintendo's monopoly a third time?

>>375902598
ports yeah, but if you didn't have a PS3 or Wii then by all means, also Gravity Rush nor Hot Shots Golf are ports.

it's funny like people saying that Zelda BOTW is a port, when many people didn't buy a WiiU, so even if its a port, its a hell of a good game.

>>375902321
>>375902623
Dumb phone posters.

>>375902680
Why not? Just because it doesn't outsell the competition doesn't mean it's not worth doing.

If one "failure" should scare someone off from never doing another console should Nintendo have stopped making consoles after the GC or Wii U?
The PSP sold an insane amount, they would be retarded to not give it at least one another try after the Vita.

>>375894763

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>>375894397
Why?It's just going to end up dying the same way the first vita did.I bought a vita around launch and wish I could get back every last cent I spent of it.

>>375902321
>>375902623
>tfw the average poster on /v/ are now people who are busy enough not to sit on their desktop
I miss muh sanctuary for social rejects.

>>375903125
Nigger I'm playing GAMES on my computer, not browsing 4chinz.

>>375894397
Nintendo doesn't enforce any content rules onto devs for the last few years. As long as the game isn't rated AO, it's ok to sell on their place platform.

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>>375903020
Because they would have to fight against 3DS AND Switch. They're fucked. Sony knows they can't challenge Nintendo's monopoly.
>should Nintendo have stopped making consoles after the GC
Well, Nintendo still made more money than Sony because they had GBA. They always made profit, Sony didn't. Ever notice how Sony completely ignores the Vita's existence every E3? They're going to completely ignore the handheld market from now on.

>>375903170
Yeah, like what?

>>375903170
So why are you here?

>>375901481

Thanks. I'm just wondering where the other anon got that half mil to break even. Also with the going digital I know about Japan's pre disposition with limited goods, thanks Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, I just think there might be a trend starting with games like Kamiko and Wonderboy being digital and wonder boy asking their fans if there are enough demand to go physical.

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>>375897237
>PCs will be gone soon enough

>>375903193
>Sony knows they can't challenge Nintendo's monopoly.
And yet first time they did their it was a huge success.
>Ever notice how Sony completely ignores the Vita's existence every E3?
Well yeah. That's because Vita isn't selling all too well. Why should they focus on a largely unsalvageable device?
>They're going to completely ignore the handheld market from now on.
They would be fools if they did.

>>375903124

You aren't buying the new games it gets?

>>375894397
Dungeon Travelers/Dungeon Travelers 2 for Steam when?

>>375903170

>not playing games and browsing /v/ both at once
>not having other things going in addition to those

This is why you're a dumb phonephuck.

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>>375903426
>And yet first time they did their it was a huge success
They never came close to challenging Nintendo. These are the best selling games on each platform.
>Why should they focus on a largely unsalvageable device?
Why do you think third party developers would even trust Sony after the Vita?
>They would be fools if they did.
Microsoft has tons of money. Take a wild guess why they didn't try to challenge Nintendo handheld market.

>>375903495

You think you want it, but you don't.

>>375903625
Thanks Blizzard, I don't know what came over me.

>tfw the Switch has no games like PS4 and is flopping

>>375903495
Keep crying basement neckbeard ;)

>>375903495
I thought PC gamers hate dumb weeb trash?

>>375903614
>They never came close to challenging Nintendo. These are the best selling games on each platform.
As long as they are selling systems and games why does it matter? The PSP went up against the best selling console of all time and still managed to be the third best selling handheld in the world.
>Why do you think third party developers would even trust Sony after the Vita?
Even the damn Vita is getting a stream of new games.
>Microsoft has tons of money. Take a wild guess why they didn't try to challenge Nintendo handheld market.
They don't want to risk it and doesn't have anywhere near as big of a presence when it comes to manufacturing things.

I remember all the "the PS4 will never happen" posts for a few years ago. Their portable branch is too noticeable and big to give up after one underselling console.

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>>375903771
>Overwhelmingly positive
>PC gamers hate dumb weeb trash
If you say so.

>>375903426

It's a loosing game for them. Remember that Sony sells consoles at a loss they make most of their profit from 3rd party games and PSN. If they get another PS Vita situation it won't be a profitable venture specially when they have to compete with the 3ds and the switch. They won't have enough numbers of units being picked up and they won't have enough devs to develop for this new handheld. They could make a new handheld though to disrupt Nintendo from getting their niche games to keep those devs in their ecosystem but I'm not sure it would be profitable enough to keep its existence.

>>375903771
What would give you that impression? The PC is pretty much where all the ultra weeb games to weeb for even the consoles come to thrive.

Sony has probably been working on a Vita 2 in it's labs, but i think the only way it'll happen is if it can run PS4 games, that way, a lot like the switch, they won't have to split their library.

Though i can't see them doing it without compromises, like, half the power of the slim at least.

>>375903771
>VNs
>all the language tools
nigger you retarded

>>375894506

>the handheld market is dying

3DS is a literal cash cow, why do you think nintendy has announced "2DS version number 5,000, gib 150 dollars for a half decade old console you already own" when they have only just released the Switch? Handheld is going perfectly fine, you're only saying it's dead because you judge the health of the industry on what markets Sony comes out ahead in

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>>375903962
>As long as they are selling systems and games why does it matter?
Pic related. They aren't selling systems and games. The Vita has been vastly outsold since forever and the last time Sony reported how much it sold it was at 4 million. Sony has already given up on the handheld market.
>Even the damn Vita is getting a stream of new games.
Are you really that naive that Switch isn't going to get those games? It's already happening.
>They don't want to risk it
Exactly. And Microsoft has a shit-ton of money. They can afford to lose billions so what makes you think Sony is ready to do that? They cannot win against Nintendo.

I hope the GPD things kick off more handheld PCs, hopefully from respectable non-chink companies too.

>>375895669
This is false the 3DS has roughly the same attach rate at 4 times the userbase. That's how much of a flip the Vita was.

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Can your Vita or DS play games like this tho?

>>375903965
>Meganep VII was unironically one of the best RPGs of the year
What a weird feeling

>>375904147
>They aren't selling systems and games
No shit. I was talking about the PSP.
>Are you really that naive that Switch isn't going to get those games?
Yes.
>what makes you think Sony is ready to do that?
They need another successful revenue stream.
>They cannot win against Nintendo.
For the third time they don't have to. They just have to be profitable.

>>375904239
Disgusting

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>>375904261
>tfw I kinda want to get into them but after trying the first game it was so fucking awful I just gave up

And for some reason I still kinda want to get into them.

>>375903771
Look at it this way:

There aren't a lot of weeb games on PC. There's like 50 games compared to 3000+ on 3DS, Vita and PS3/PS4. Whenever PC fatties get a shitty weeb game everyone else already played in 2011 they become so happy that they don't even know what to do. And the when they're done with it they start port begging like this PC fatty right here: >>375903495

Rinse and repeat. The life of a PC fatty is port begging lmao

>>375904147

Depends maybe middle sized devs but smaller size dev will depend on how small is the minimum numbers of physical Nintendo allows.

>>375895669
This.

Sony allows devs to go hardcore. Nintendo just censors everything because M-MUH KIDS

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>>375904275
>I was talking about the PSP.
Oh? See >>375903614
PSP got its ass fucked no matter how Sony drones like to see it.
>They need another successful revenue stream.
True, but they would only lose money going against Nintendo's handhelds.
>They just have to be profitable.
Well, they aren't.

the 3DS defence force is here already. you gotta defend your Fisher Price toy, right?

>>375904418
Is this picture supposed to prove anything?
How is it surprising that japanese call of duty sells a lot?
And all the games on the right turned a profit.
I'd rather have a ton of games to play than 3 games in a series I don't even enjoy.

>>375904418
>PSP got its ass fucked no matter how Sony drones like to see it.
By selling incredibly well and becoming one of the most successful consoles of all time? For reference it's outsold the GBA and 3DS.
>True, but they would only lose money going against Nintendo's handhelds.
And yet they didn't with the PSP.
>Well, they aren't.
But they were. Which is the keyword. You don't just give up the moment something goes bad. You give it at least one more shot. From the CG they got the Wii, from the Wii U they got the Switch, from the PSV they might get a new PSP.

>>375904318
Funny, for me I got 100% completion on RB1, but got 3 chapters into RB2 before putting it down. Never got back into it despite the series supposedly getting better.

>>375904328
What weeb games does PC even have? I'm too busy playing Mary Skelter to find out.

>>375904581

On a time when handhelds didn't have competition in terms of smart phones and similar devices.

>>375904651
For me I just saw that linear awful map which I've seen 40000 times in the past and just went. Nope. Not again. I'm getting to old for this shit.

>>375904418

I've been going on a binge buying 3DS games lately, all of it has been ATLUS JRPGs, so I want to get an ARPG to mix it up. Should I just get MH4, or get MH3 AND MH4?

>>375904418
PSP did not have good software sales, but holy shit you're deluded if you think that hardware didn't sell well. There's a reason why Sony made 5 redesigns over the years to keep the sales stable

>>375904710
Fair enough but it's still worth another go.

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>>375904581
>For reference it's outsold the GBA and 3DS
Still ignoring games sales, are we?
>And yet they didn't with the PSP.
Because you're ignoring games sales. PSP was plagued with piracy and got outsold 2-1.
>You don't just give up the moment something goes bad.
Imagine if you're Sony, right? Your last handheld was a flop. You're going against a company that's dominated a market since the 80s, their new handheld is constantly sold out and their launch game had over 100% attach rate, it has the most perfect scores in history. Oh, and the other handheld still exists that killed your last handheld. Oops!
>You give it at least one more shot.
Against Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda? Against MonHun and Dragon Quest? Against Splatoon 2? Resistance is futile.

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>>375904581
Sony banks off software sale, PSP did well but software sale was shit because piracy, it was so bad that some games got canned and keep on japan.

Meanwhile Nintendo profits not only from their hardware but from their own games, which rarely sell under a million. Thats why they aways manage to make profit, even wiiu made profit back. Sony have no such thing and its at mercy of thirds, and guess what Niche games that sell like 40 -80k at best arent that profitable.

Devs and publishers can be happy as they want but not the suits.

>>375904706
Ys, Disgaea...

Those are the only weeb PC games I can think of and even then they don't have the complete series.

>>375904885
To illustrate: those amazing Vita games that sell 5k and break even make Sony about $35,000 dollars. It's completely negligible.

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>>375904885
>Sony have no such thing and its at mercy of thirds, and guess what Niche games that sell like 40 -80k at best arent that profitable.
>Devs and publishers can be happy as they want but not the suits.

I guess that's why the Vita keeps getting games in 2017 and has confirmed games for 2018.

Oh.... Wait....

>>375904917
use the anime tag on Steam and see the endless amount of Vita level shit. these so-called "i only need 5000 sales" weeaboo games would be better served on Steam. jap devs are fucking retarded though and let Sakura Clicker and Sakura Memer and Sakura Shitstorm eat their moe pie

>>375904832
>Still ignoring games sales, are we?
Well yes seeing as you keep posting Vita images. We have already established that the Vita is a failure.
>Because you're ignoring games sales.
If we go by >>375904418 MHFU on it's own outsold all of those games at around 5 million.
>Imagine if you're Sony, right?
Imagine going up against against biggest console in the world against the biggest handheld company in the wold that has more or less ate up any competition in the past, with you having no clue what so ever how to do handheld consoles.
>Against Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda? Against MonHun and Dragon Quest? Against Splatoon 2? Resistance is futile.
It's not though.
>>375904885
It still sold well enough to get a fuckload of games though. The Japs aren't as big when it comes to piracy and that's where the PSP really shone.

>>375905062

They're not talking about Vita getting games but about Sony making a new handheld. We know games are still being made for the Vita but what's their incentive to make another handheld.

>>375905062
Are you an idiot?

Why do you think Sony hasn't made a Vita 2?

Sony doesn't support the Vita outside of shipping miniscule numbers, it does cost they very much and makes them extremely minor amounts of profit.

The R&D alone would cost more than a Vita 2 would likely generate while also being a waste if time and money but maintaning the platform cost Sony very little so they continue to do so.

>>375905374
To make money?

>>375905062
3ds is also getting games in 2018, what is your point?

Sony never talked high and might with vita, vita is afloat by the small devs but thats it. Isnt anything impressive.

>>375905383
I'm gonna screencap this post and laugh when the new PS handheld is announced.

>>375905442

See

>>375905383

>>375905456
while 3ds is getting indie shit in 2017 vita is getting dragon quest, final fantasy and lots of rpgs

Sad!

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>>375905335
>We have already established that the Vita is a failure.
Exactly. The Vita failed and Sony gave up. There's nothing to talk about.

There won't be a new Vita or Vita 2.

There will however be a handheld PS4.

>>375905537
>Liam Allen-Miller
Who?

>>375905537
If you think they gave up you are very naive anon.

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>>375905515
I think that shitposting fried your brain but lemme give a pity (you)

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>>375894397
>Nintendo according to OP

>>375905496
Haha keep on waiting I'll post it every year it's not to rub it in your face.

>>375905636
How have they not give up on Vita? The reason why Sony tries with some of the questionable stuff is because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. In case of Vita nothing fucking worked, there's a limit to how much you can toy around without getting profit and Sony is not in position to toy around much.

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>>375905636
And why is that, anon? They have zero system sellers for their handhelds. Even if they made one it wouldn't sell. You need a Pokemon to sell your handheld. What's Sony going to do? Release Vita 2 with another Ridge Racer?

>>375905565

This is more possible but they have to ensure that it runs ps4 games as is with no changes changes(impossible). That also means that you're getting 40gb games to install since there's no bd drive. They might go with mircosd cards but if not you're gonna be paying out of butt

>>375904163
The smachz was funded on kickstarter, let's see how it ends, they expect to deliver them on september

>2017
>Still no memory card adapter

>>375905819
Does the fate game include all dlc for free?

>>375904418
You're deluded if this pic isn't a positive for the Vita.

>>375905808
Because a brand is more important than you think. Sony isn't just thinking 2 years ahead of time, they are thinking 10, 15 years ahead of time, if they can salvage their handheld brand it would be a huge boon to the company.

>>375905819
Neither did the PSP to be fair.

>>375906018
Oh? Losing their system seller to Nintendo is great for Sony? How?
>>375906025
Wrong, they had MonHun.

>>375906080
>Wrong, they had MonHun.
Yeah after like years of being on the market. It wasn't even the PSP's best selling game. GTA sold better.

>>375906025
Sony brand is important, Vita is not. Vita is confirmed trash, they can rebrand their handheld line at any time they want. Trying to salvage shit like Vita out of the hole they dug is harder than making a new brand. They still have the PSP brand, working from that angle they would have better chances with their new handheld than experimenting with Vita.

>>375904328
Then they get mad when Steam is filled witj "dumb weeb trash".

>>375906136
MonHun is a system seller no matter how hard you try to shitpost about it. It's huge in Japan and when it's announced for Switch you better believe it's going to sell tons of Switch units. Even Vita fags admit that.
> I swear I've spent the last month hoping to see a surprise Capcom announcement. I would even take an upscaled Monster Hunter Double Cross game at the moment. Capcom has to have something in development for the Switch. It would be great if it was a brand new game. I hope we see it soon. A MH title would make this Switch totally worth buying.

>>375898793
>nintendo treehouse localizes game
>gets censored and meme dialogue
NINTENDO DIDN'T MAKE THE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>375906143
I'm not saying they are gonna do a Vita 2. I'm saying they are gonna release a new playstation handheld.

>>375906265
I didn't say it wasn't. Just that I don't think it had as much to do with the success of the device as people think. It was already getting pretty big and the games were rolling in. And it's not like MH was the big series it was, it became a system seller only after FU sold so well if you get me. Like it brand wasn't nearly as strong before it.

>>375906080
MonHun is the COD of japan, no real gamer cares. The variety of the games sold on Vita is the reason why the console had so much 3rd party support, dumbass.

>>375894397
Nintendo doesn't force censorship on anyone but their internal studios. It isn't the 90s anymore. There are plenty of lewd M rated games even on the 3DS.

>>375904328
I still laugh to this day at Steamfags praising Zestiria being ported to PC like the second coming of Jesus when that thing is only 100 yen at used game shops.

>>375907084
Goddamn this. The entire internet was busy with "Zestiria is the worst Tales game ever made" and the nanosecond it got on Steam /v/ was full of dicksuckers

>tfw no gf to /ss/ xD

I thought it was a different game, and I just misremembered the title at first, but no, it's just pc niggers being pc niggers

>>375903438
What new games?A majority of the good ones are the ones I already have on my consoles.

>>375907084
>Game comes out on 3DS, Vita, PS3 or PS4
>"Pretty good, not amazing, not horrible. Might replay some day but I enjoyed my time with it."

>Same game comes out 8 years later on PC
>"HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING GET REKT CONSOLEKEKS PC MASTER RACE AMIRITE?!?!?!?!?"

PC is cancer.

>>375907468
Can you take your consoles anywhere?

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All the weeb and lewd games seem to be going to PC now anyway, in fact I would say PC is probably the best platform for them, as you not only get mods for your waifu's, but sometimes even officially endorsed 18+ patches.

>>375907559
What games lol? They're all on PS3 and PS4.

I would enjoy a vita 2.

>>375907501
This. I used to think Sony drones were the worst but PC faggots is definitely first now. It all changed when the whole "muh pcmastahrace" thing happened. At least PS4 has actual exclusives and they talk about games instead of just shitposting about specs.

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>>375897237
>PC will be gone
You might not believe this but there is actually a lot of people that are not retarded enough to even bother with mobile games on account of them being complete fucking garbage. These people will always go for the premium experience and that place is PC.

>>375907501
>Game comes out on 3DS, Vita, PS3 or PS4
>"HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING GET REKT PCFAGS

>Same game comes out 8 years later on PC
>"Pretty good, not amazing, not horrible. Might replay some day but I enjoyed my time with it."

Consoles are cancer.

Both are cancer is what I'm saying.

>>375907501
>>375907084
>>375907337
Yeah because "NEVER EVER XD" is not a thing? Have some self awareness.

Also Berseria > Hearts > Zestiria

The users are cancer. PC gaming is fine.

>>375898793

It doesn't matter if it's Nintendo literally doing it or just ordering them to do it, either way any kind of erotic content is sure to be censored to hell on Nintendo platforms and that's the only part that matters.

>>375907660
>You might not believe this but there is actually a lot of people that are not retarded enough to even bother with mobile games on account of them being complete fucking garbage. These people will always go for the premium experience and that place is PC.

Yes. Premium experience on your poorfag PC that cost $400.

>>375907908
Oop.>>375907501

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>>375894397
>5 years from now
>Oh you're one of those PC gamers that plays those cartoon porn games aren't you?

God damn you faggots.....

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>>375907941
>poorfag $400 PC
>still outperforms modern consoles

>>375907084
>>375907337
>>375907501

You guys sound really upset for some reason.

>>375907941
If you only have $400 to spend ona PC you should just get a console you're not the "premium experience" demographic anyways.

>>375908009
My PS4 Pro has 4.1 TFLops and it cost me $189 + Uncharted during Black Friday.

Get rekt cuck and beg for some ports ;)

>>375907535
>I want to play games I have beaten on the go anywhere
Boring

>>375908146
I have yet to see a modern console game I really want. Not for the past like, 4 years, I got dragon quest builders on my PS4 and I like it, but it's not something I would have been upset to miss.

>>375908180
Bullshit. You're saying the Vita got a lot of ports which isn't true, a lot of it's game are released the same day as the console version. Why didn't you beat it on your Vita then?

It's not the Vita's fault that you couldn't be fucked to think about how you're gonna use it.

>>375894397
>Tfw fell for Vita meme
>Got mine for 80$ from a local craiglist
>Only good games are: NFS, Uncharted (oh boy i love those FPS drops), Killzone, VanillaWare games, Freedom Wars, P4 and thats it.

>>375908340
Nah, you just don't shit about videogames.

>PSP and Vita
>absolutely no games worth playing at all
>DS and 3DS
>best games of each generation on them

Good luck sony, maybe you'll release a game for your new handheld if you ever make one.

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>>375908297
>Buying the same game twice

>>375907964
God that would be amazing. Anything to stem the normie influx.

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>>375908478
>buying a game once
woah

Iku https://youtu.be/K9zmiF810rw

>>375908461
But the 3DS only has RF4.

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>>375908146
>black friday deals
>4.1 flops
Kek whens your bed time?

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>>375908461
>best games of each generation on them
For deluded peoples who can't even prove their claims

>>375908639
>all these ports and rehashes

That's how you know Sony fanboys are delusional about their shit handhelds with no games worth playing.

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>>375908461
PSP has a lot of good games tho

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>>375908705
I mean, it's not like the DS hardwares could support ANY sort of ports.
Also weak damage control.

>>375908487
It will never happen. Even now steam is implementing filters to drown out all the weeb games.

>>375908707
Name of game?

>>375894397
what weeb game is this?

>>375908809
This resulted in the DS having the largest amount of EXCLUSIVES for the platform which are the games that truly demand a developer's best and their creativity instead of a dumbed down port to shitty handheld with shit battery life.

>>375894397
>bawwwwww I won't get to play my pedo games anymore!

Sicko

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>>375907084
>Zestira
Ah, yes. Here are a few top reviews from a while ago.

The vita is probably one of the main reasons i haven't bought the PS4 yet, most of the good titles are either multiplat with vita or PS3

>>375908826
ZHP

>>375908979
Strange Journey, Ghost trick and...?

>>375908979
>Because you think a spinoff from a popular franchise is a port instead of an exclusive.
Those straws won't hold man.

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Reminder that the only good game on the Vita is Project Diva F 2nd

>>375909050
Thanks, looks fun.

>Made by NIS

>>375908992
I will never, NEVER, understand weebs that only have a PC. Literally everything from Japan worth giving a shit about comes out on either Nintendo or Sony consoles.

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>>375908992
>For the first time i felt like i had friends

Yep typical weeb gamer.

>>375909091
It is, shame the spiritual sequels went to shit

>>375909084
That picture really made me think.

>raise your daughter
>tfw she becomes a pornstar/prostitute

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>>375908979
>dumbed down port to shitty handheld with shit battery life
Hmm, this reminds me of something, but what?

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>>375909149
It ain't always easy being a poorfag anon.

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>>375909149
They're "ironic" weebs who just buy stuff they see from the "popular new releases" tab.

>>375909152
Even then there are better friend simulators that masquerade as shitty games. Like Persona 4.

>>375909267
>Greentexting anywhere outside 4chan
>That cringe as fuck story

Jesus christ.

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>>375909258
This also might have something to do with it. A lot of mexicans, BRs and other third world people only have PCs. When /vint/ happened it showed us that BRs were the main cause of console wars as they were the ones spouting Master Race everywhere. Most of these Jap games don't need a good PC to run, so they're just stuck with whatever they get.

>>375909346
Maybe. Also NEETS. Though I guess that is less common these days now that 4chan is normie central.

>>375909346
Actually faggots from USA shitposted and falseflagged a fuckton in PC/Console threads.

Nier: Automata threads were a shitfest.

>>375909065
Twewy, Radiant Historia, EO series, 999 before it was ported to other systems, Phoenix Wright. Etc.

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>>375909486
/v/ is beyond saving desu. Majority of people just come here to shitpost.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12106009

>>375909346
>>375909486
>Europeans are the only normal people

wew lad

>>375909267
I know this kid has autism but god damn thats cringe as fuck.

>>375895221
>If making Vita games wasn't worth it, they wouldn't be shitting out ten kusoge every month
You realise how cheap those are to make right? Chances are they don't even need to sell 5000 copies to even make a profit.

The Vita just so happens to be where the exploitable Kusoge audience is just like the PSP before it.

>>375909346
Ha, i remember that. We need to build a wall on steam.

PATA PATA PATA PON

Patapon 4 when?

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>>375908297
>It's not the vita's fault that you couldn't be fucked to think about how you're gonna use it
>no new AAA titles
>rehashed games I already played years ago
>shit indie and japanese games
>support for it dropped years ago
Into the trash it goes

>>375909767
PON PON [SPOILER]NEVER[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER]EVER[/SPOILER]

>>375897794
>He specifically states that the Nintendo fanbase constantly mocks anything that isn't a big title
When has this ever been true? As much as people say people don't buy these games there's always enough for the game to earn a profit.
Hell I've seen more Sonygros saying games are shovelware if they don't have a AAA budget and mass marketing more than anyone else.

>>375908979
>truly demand a developer's best and their creativity
I would laugh if you weren't so stupid to believe what you just said, but anything for console wars I guess.
PSP also had an enormous amount of exclusives, but I don't expect a fanboy to know anything about that.
And it's also funny how you imply that all those exclusives are good just because they're exclusive, the vast majority of the DS exclusives are unimaginative low budget garbage or casual shovelware, most of the actually worthwhile exclusives were either remakes of old games and/or got ported to PSP/Vita with upgrades, and while we're at it, the vast majority of exclusives that weren't first party games sold like garbage on DS, much like most modern Nintendo consoles.
I loved all those niche RPGs on DS like Contact or Metal Max, I bought my DS just to play a few of those niche games, but they were commercial blunders and most of them never even left japan.
>>375910041
>there's always enough for the game to earn a profit.
Must be why the vast majority of devs jumped ships to Sony since the DS and happily stayed there despite Nintendo platforms being more successful.

>>375909612
They can be the worst of the bunch. They just shitpost more in other boards

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>>375904163
Got one recently and I love it. Streaming my desktop worked better than I expected as well.
Can hold its own fairly well, just don't expect it to run the latest AAA titles on lowest settings smoothly. For older titles and emulation up to ps1 it is bretty gud.

My only complaints so far are that if you have large skinny hands the edges dig into your palms and it feels rather heavy, like 2 smartphones phones heavy which makes it more annoying.
The R1 bumper is a bit hit and miss too, and L3,R3 positioned at the bottom instead of clickable thumbpads is just ridiculous.
Even then it is the only up to date ultra portable PC of its kind for now, I hope to see more competition in that space with the same clamshell design pocket sized form factor.

Would have preferred the dragonbox pyra design in pic related, but that thing costs an ARM and leg far an underpowered potato.

>>375907964
Isn't that the case in Japan already?

>>375910201
>Must be why the vast majority of devs jumped ships to Sony
But they didn't, all of the worthwhile developers are still on Nintendo systems either doing exclusives or multiplats.
The only ones that aren't are ones that never made enough to be stable to begin with or are ones that lost a lot ofmoney with PS3 development.

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What does /v/ think of the Vita 2's design?

>>375906582
You don't associate vita with playstation, do you? Neither do most of the people.

>>375911023
>Nintendo Sbitch™

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>>375911140
I'm sorry what? Why did you even say that?

>>375911023
And people wonder why Sony's handhelds are failing.
The worst part is that they demand more power which drives out smaller developers out because of the higher development costs.
If they make a Vita 2 that shit is going to flop in like a month.

>>375910980
>all of the worthwhile developers are still on Nintendo systems either doing exclusives or multiplats.
Really?
Just to name a few, where are FROM, Arcsys or Falcom then?
How come Spike Chunsoft is publishing all their stuff on Sony platforms or PC now?
Why did the same stable nintendo third party games like Metal Max almost completely disappear with the jump from DS to 3DS since the DS had three MM games and the DS only had one?
Why is Artdink publishing all of their stuff on Sony platforms?
Where are the NIS games?
Why did Imageepoch die after publishing their stuff on Nintendo platforms after doing well for years on PSP, even without considering all the shady stuff related to them during the 3DS period?

>>375896314
she's right

>>375911167
Being number 2 in handheld business is not so bad. As long as the group posts profits.

>>375904146

>release Switch
>it's a fucking flop
>rush to get out a 2DS XL revision to keep the ship floating

Sasuga, Nintendo.

>>375911258
>Why did Imageepoch die after publishing their stuff on Nintendo platforms after doing well for years on PSP
Not him but maybe that has to do with the years of flops on Sony systems where no one bought their games and they were generally given poor reviews? Just compare the games that they've made on the different systems and their reception of you want some proof. Hell, most of the developers you've listed all fell in similar ways.

They're literally dying because they backed the wrong system and are paying the price.

>>375911258
>Spike Chunsoft
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon?
Zero Escape?

>>375911295
It's pretty bad when the difference between 1 and 2 is the length of several planets.

>>375911619
As long as the group posts profits. I mean you don't want for just Apple to exist in the smartphone business do you?

>>375894397
Switch has no region lock
If you care about your filthy weeb games so much then learn nip and import
If your hobby is playing Japanese games but you refuse to learn the language then you don't deserve your hobby.

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>>375911295
Too bad Switch is first place, 3DS takes second place, and Vita is in flames.

>>375904146

>why do you think nintendy has announced "2DS version number 5,000, gib 150 dollars for a half decade old console you already own" when they have only just released the Switch?

Because Nintendo figured it can bank on selling 3ds iterations to the same dedicated autists every year. This is not going to expand the 3ds install base.

>>375903771
nu pc gamers love f2p games and fps games, but you can emulate stuff like pc-88/98 which was like the weeb platform

>>375911258
You realise except for From and Falcom who have never made a game on a Nintendo system they've all made games to some success on said systems as of late right.

Artdink did a few nip only games.
Spike Chunsoft did both etrian and pokemon mystery dungeon with the latter having two games mind you.
Arcsys did Extreme Butoden
NIS did some nip only games and published cave story 3D, EO4, Soul Hackers, Persona Q and a few more
Imageepoch couldn't save themselves after the flop that was Time and Eternity.

Check your facts nigger.

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>>375912317
>Falcom
>who have never made a game on a Nintendo system

>>375912317
Actually, Etrian Mystery Dungeon is getting a second game.

Sony needs to fuck off after what they did with the Vita.
Garbage VNs need to fuck off too.

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>>375911258
>from and arcsys
>worthwhile
I mean, they are on Nintendo systems, but please. Fucking shit devs.

>>375894397
Yes, please. We need a containment handheld.

>>375899351
Is this your first new gen anon? It's litterally always been like that.

>>375899434
Nintendo is pushing for price parity, look it up.

>>375913287
>Hating Arcsys
Garbage taste friendo.

>>375913287
You got an issue with From but not NIS? Or fucking Spike?

>>375915023
I once played that prinny game and it was k.

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Imagine a world where Vita got DQ 7 & 8.

I love my 3ds but damn those games would have been awesome on Vita, i would have bought it just for them.

>>375894506
The solution is clearly more cultural enrichment. Japan is racist and needs more young refugees to play its video games.

>>375912317
>Falcom never made a game on a Nintendo system

They have quite a few on the SNES and DS.

>tfw Disgaea got censored on Switch
>tfw the Switch Senran Kagura Switch game is made for kids and has no nudity or lewd

This is only the beginning.

>>375916243
>tfw Disgaea got censored on Switch
Really?

>>375904146
>3DS is a literal cash cow

Dude, it sells 2 times worse than Xbone It had momemntum but dying everywhere now outside of Japan