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Would he have gone on to conquer the East, as he felt the Legion

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Would he have gone on to conquer the East, as he felt the Legion was destined to, or would the Legions style of governing led to it being bogged down and destroyed by resistance movements? Was he fit to lead the Legion, or was a dog of war like him good for only the immediate future of the the Legion, which would see his warfighting skills put to use? What is /pol's opinion?
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*yawn*
not a REAL fallout game
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>>375876867
Better than 3 and 4.
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>>375876866
Assuming Caesar and all his to Tribune died in his tent and Lanius gets killed by the Courier, The legion would have started fighting itself because different Centurions want the top spot.
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>>375876868
DELETE THIS
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>>375876869
The courier doesn't exist in this scenario, but the battle of hoover dam still happens and legion wins it.
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>>375876866
The bull is damned to turn on and consume itself.
The bear will eventually commit the same sins as the old world causing history to repeat. With or without courier 6 both the bear and bull are doomed to fail.
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>>375876866
The Legion system was unsustainable in the long run because there is no successor to Caesar. Being gay as he was, he never took a slave woman for his chambers and never produced offspring to succeed him.

If he had a son, even if a baby, it would be easy for the Legion to carry on.
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>>375876872
Ulysses is a stupid faggot
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>>375876872
>The bear will eventually commit the same sins as the old world causing history to repeat. With or without courier 6 both the bear and bull are doomed to fail.

That's why you choose Mr. House.
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>>375876866
>tfw 719 hours in that game and I will play it again
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>>375876875
No, that's why you choose Yes Man.
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>>375876866
#SpyingSusan
Susan Rice refuses to testify,
so lets get this trending faggots.
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>be rome
>die
Rome sucked
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>>375876877
Yeah so you don't have to blow up the brotherhood of steel which is just a shitty thing to do.
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>>375876866
He would have fucked it up, if Vulpes was alive and the Legete not, then I see Vulpes taking over after Ceasar's death.
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>>375876880
>>375876877
Exactly.
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>>375876873
I imagine that Caesar isn't fucking retarded and would adopt you, repeating history and making you his Augustus. It makes no sense as to why he wouldn't if you do everything for him till the end of the game. He doesn't want Vulpes to do anything other than what he does already and has already said that Lanius would eventually have to be put down
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>>375876880
Who was the companion you get from there? The girl? She'd be my queen while i sit on top of my army of Yes Men
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>>375876884
yeah the annoying lesbian
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>>375876885
She was a lesbian? Brb hooking up the 360 and killing her.
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>>375876886
She's fucking complaining about dwindling BOS numbers in the Mojave branch, meanwhile she is messing around with jellies with her gf fucking bitch.
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>>375876886
She was with the mute bitch in dead money
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>>375876887
Been a while since I played. Only ever did two runs. One with NCR the other with Legion. I was doing a Yes Man run then got bored. Started up Fallout 2 yesterday and it's fucking tedious but fun.
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>>375876888
Never played DLC either.
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He wouldnt be a good leader and The Legion didnt have a real second to take over. It would eventually consume itself because to really assumilate people would take a long time. Something Caesar didnt have.

But if he did win the Dam and Caesar lived after it he could achieve the Synthesis he was talking about.
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Lanius was a nut, he would've ended up destroying the legion. He killed most of new vegas if he becomes leader.
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>>375876890
I'm pretty sure there's a dialogue option where she says the brotherhood separated her from her girlfriend or something to that effect
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>>375876866
I join Legion all the time because the NCR as better loot and their assassin squads have rare endgame sniper rifles. While the NCR does have more quests there's more NCR locations and NPC's to kill than Legion which makes up for the quest exp.

I also kill the Brotherhood everytime, great exp after helping them along with good armor and high level weapons.
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>>375876866
Caesar was the only leader the Legion could have at that point. If he dies, the Legion would crumble. Caesar needed to set up an heir, whoever that would be, for the Legion to continue on. The Legate doesn't have a cult of personality, so he's less likely to be obeyed by other high ranking officials. All the officials in the Legion would fight for control without a given heir. It happened in real life in the Roman Empire many times.
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>>375876869
Caesar has a long line of people to take over, he states this.
I missed these New Vegas threads so much.
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>>375876867
I didn't pre-order shit.
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>>375876880
I chose Yes man and still blew up the Brotherhood. They are stupid hypocrites who think that no one can be trusted with technology except themselves.
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>>375876874
>>375876875
Degenerates like you belong on a cross
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>>375876868
the story, dlcs, items, perks, npcs, and setting was better. I fully admit this.

But man, New Vegas didn't have jackshit for worthwhile dungeons. I loved the subways in The Capital Wasteland.

Fallout 4 was.....not as good as New Vegas.
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>>375876872
Worst DLC expansion. Even more so than the injuns one.
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>>375876894
The NCR Ranger Armor (on the cover) was why I joined up with the NCR, then i realized they give you a half broken down set 3/4 of the way through the game and it needs to be repaired constantly which means spending alot of money or killing your own faction for it. So yeah, whichever factions armor you want, join the opposite faction for it
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>>375876866

tried playing this game once
wandered off the road and got fucking swarmed by ants and scorpions, ran out of bullets and got rekt
said fuck this and uninstalled it
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>>375876874
Ulysses is Based Stick Man
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>>375876903
>i'm to lazy to read in game signs and listen to in game dialogue
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>be committed to caesar
>do ONE sidequest for the ncr which may or may not have ended in a handful of legionaries dying
>come back to the tent to tell caesar im ready to help him take hoover damn
>he reminds me of the legionaries and tells his tent to execute me after calling me a degenerate
>have to eradicate his whole camp with a gatling laser
Why does the Legion have basically no quests?
Why are there so many open sodomites and gays?
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>>375876906
Are there any mods tha expand on the Legion? They could really have had some epic quests.
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>>123987948
The Legion was doomed from the start, there is no way they could defeat the NCR, even with the bureaucrats running it.

I would have gone south.
Maybe even north.
I'd send scouts to look for tribes, settlements, and potential treasure troves of weapons, supplies, and slaves.

I also would have attempted a peace treaty with the NCR, temporary yes, but enough to build forces without their knowledge.
Succeeding the Hoover Dam would mean not controlling the flow of electricity that it produces and thus not be able to benefit from the technology is brings.
However.
The cost to take the dam and hold the dam would be too intense for it to be a logical asset for The Legion.
The better option is to destroy it outright.

A surface level assault would keep the NCR distracted while a stealth mission could sneak up to, and inside, the damn to plant explosives.

Denying the enemy the position is the better option.

From there?
Head north.
Head south.
Watch the west.
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>>375876900
1. NV
2. 4
3. 3
4. 2
5. 1

2 and 1 are better than 3 and 4 in terms of story and choices, but holy fuck are they outdated gameplay wise. It gets to be too much at a certain point
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>>375877254
where does Tactics place?
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If you have a high enough speech, the courier makes the argument that if he continued West he would lose a war of attrition with the NCR
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>>375877331
Meh.
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>>375876885
>>375876886
>The lesbian in New Vegas was so subtle about her homosexuality that some players genuinely don't know about it
Why so few are making diversity right in games?
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>>375877754
Well like I said it's been a while since I played. I've forgotten most of the characters backstories. Apparently she outright says it at some point.
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>>375876885
>>375876886
>>375877754
Dude she says she had a girlfriend like 8 times if you exhaust her conversation lines. "Concealed behind a few lines of dialogue" is not the same as "subtle" you yuppie degenerates.
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>>375877754
no one knew because no one used her
Boone is the only companion you need
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>>375877754
leftists can't into subtlety.
if it isn't blatantly obvious the only way they'll know is if it's plastered on tumblr, and that because it goes from subtlety to brutish.
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>>375876866
So are all just choosing to ignore that he asked "What is /pol's opinion?"
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>>375878074
thread was moved from /pol/.
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>>375878029
Tried to sell Boon to the Legion I think. I know Arcades faggot ass would have gotten sold too had I been willing to deal with his bullshit long enough to drag him to the camp
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>>375877981
So you are triggered just because she says it at all after a time?
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>>375878249
I'm saying it's not subtle at all, you 5th grader. "Subtle" would've been a picture in her room at base showing her and another girl, and her never mentioning the gender of her past lover in conversation lines. Needing to click three times before she tells you she's a lesbian is about as subtle as a brick and is worthy of a gas chamber.
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>>375878187
>selling the easymode ticket to early game NV.
>not selling Veronica, Cass, arcade and Raul to the legion
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>>375876906

I think they planned to do more but they ran out of time and or money
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>>375877754
There are about a dozen or two gay NPCs though, so they lose the bonus points they got for being subtle.
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The legion was never going to last long, it started with Caesar and it'll die with Caesar. Sure, it wouldn't be instantaneous if you did spare Lanius. But has Caesar said, that Lanius never gave a damn about the legion itself, he was only loyal to Caesar and Caesar itself. The Legion economy is also massively flawed since it required newly conquered lands to sustain itself, if they hit a significant roadblock (NCR) or just the fact the more spread out you become, the more time it takes to send troops to a rebelling city or the more troops are needed (guns and bullets vs. Bread and butter).
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>>37587688
What would a female courier be?
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>>375879019

How many homosexuals do you expect to exist in a population the size of New Vegas's, Anon?
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>>375878074
is there any difference?
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>>375876880
>not blowing up the brotherhood anyway

They have no place in the wasteland. They won't trade. They provide no security. They hustle people for tech to where carrying a laser pistol will get you mugged by 7 paladins with full power armor and Gauss Rifles.

Being isolationist is one thing. If they just kept to themselves and didn't go on ridiculous technological crusades to sate their misguided and outdated chivalry, they could have avoided being massacred. But since they only hinder the mojave wasteland as an independent land, they should be destroyed immediately.

The Boomers keep to themselves and only fuck with people trying to get in their territory. In fact they're even open to trade and become allies of Vegas.
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>>375877981
It's subtle because she doesn't announce it to the world and make it part of her character. You actually have to ask her and all she does is mention her through using a different pronoun.
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Behold, the power of Science!
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>>375876881
Vulpes is cunning, but he lacks the charisma to lead.

The people follow Caesar, not the legion. As they said in the game, Caesar is the tribe leader and god rolled up into one.
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>>375878187
>doing legion run
>give up boone to the White Glove Society to be eaten so I can form an alliance between them and Caesar
>have veronica lead me to the bunker so I can blow them up and kill her too at Caesar's command
>sell arcade into slavery so he can heal Caesar
>kill cass while raiding the mojave outpost

Feels good man.
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>>375882508
Would Caesar really side with Cannibals?
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>>375882908
>side with

Caesar absorbs tribes and makes them into the legion.

They would either forcibly abandon their old ways or face death by mass crucifixion.

Their morale would probably burst when they see Marjorie sold off as a Centurion's housemaid/whore.
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>>375876880
But Yes Man is a lot happier with you if you decide to blow them up rather than ally with them. No one wants them around, period.
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>>375880450
I agree with this. Isolationist is fine but having this outdated ideology and god complex when it comes to widely available technology being used by people other than yourself and trying to subdue them from using makes it very easy for people to have justification for wiping you out. That being said, if Fallout was real, I'd rather be part of the Brotherhood than anyone else. Laser the fuck outta everyone wearing my OG Power Armor and preach how much better I am than them
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>>375883617
I wouldn't want to be part of the Mojave brotherhood, that's for damn sure.
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>>375883617
The Brotherhood is a fucking shit show.
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>>375884240
Enclave
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>>375884970
How so? Nice little bunkee hidden away. Technology. Isolated yeah, but better than being some cosplaying roman legionnaire or some lowly private in a huge army
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>>375884970
>not being commonwealth brotherhood
>not being a literal right wing death squad
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>>375885087
Being stuck in a bunker for the rest of your life does not sound fun.
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>>375885854
Better than living in a camp surrounded by dudes in skirts or a sweaty NCR barracks
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>>375886565
>Better to live in a bunker, inbreeding, then living outside.
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