So, we can all agree that: >Gameplay 5 > 4 > 3 >Story

3's plot is shit.

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5>4>3
>Music
3 > 4 > 5
>Characters
4>5>3

>>375869474
The music in four is shit, mate. It's literally just jpop with only a very small smattering of standounds.

>>375871168
(you)

>>375869474
I think 5 has the best overall soundtrack

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>>375871168
You're gonna have to try harder than that, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27WKaZ3AY4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spXWDVr0_M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoMvZEHWJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTbH43n77Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj0VqBa60Sg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrV0J9yIW8c

>>375869474
>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3

>Story
3 = 4 = 5

>Music
5 > 3 > 4

Can we at least agree Yusuke is best boy?

>>375869474
None of the games are that great. They're good at best.

>>375869474
How much different is gameplay in 5 compared to 4?

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
3>5>4
>Music
5>4>3

>>375871774
There is some real pure autism in these sort of posts. Why do you think anyone in a thread praising a game would care at all if you dont like it?

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The only song I didn't like in 5 was the final boss music. P3 and 4 delivered unforgettable final boss fights, largely due to the music, whereas 5 just had some okay metal music.

All the other fight tracks in the game are A+ though

>>375872228
Genesis is dogshit 20 seconds of a remix at the end of 7 minutes of ear rape is not a good final boss track. P3 has the only good final boss music period. Maybe your brain got it confused with new world fool.

>>375871775
Exactly the same with some slight refinements.
What really puts 5 above 4 are the non-randomized dungeons

>>375871645
>All those tracks.
>Doesn't post I'll Face Myself - Reincarnation.
You dun goofed anon.

>>375872228
3 has hyped up, objectively stupid lyrics in an amazing rap song. (Burn My Dread - Last Battle)
4 had Western Movie Trailer music for the first 5 minutes before it picks up to be amazing in the last 2 minutes. (The Genesis)
5 had a great song, that was simply overshadowed by Rivers in the Desert.(Yaldabaoth.)

I love them all to death though.

>>375872726
It fit the tone of the battle a lot and that end remix was pretty hype. Even if I don't disagree too much with what you're saying it was used in a memorable way. And yes NWF and The Almighty were much better.

>>375872820
pretty sure nobody considers the burn my dread mix to be the final battle theme. In that case 5's final battle theme is the song played during the satanael appearance

>>375869474
>story
3 doesn't even have a story until the last fucking (awful) month of the game

>>375873252
>nobody considers the burn my dread mix to be the final battle theme.
You mean 'cause it's just a scripted fight? Whatever that just makes P3 have the best final boss theme by far.

The other two don't even hold a candle to The Battle for Everyone's Souls.

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>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5 > 3 > 4
>Characters
5 > 4 > 3
>Music
5 > 3 = 4
>Level Design
5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > 3

babybabybabybabybabybabylolllllllll

>>375869474
>5 ranked last for music

SOMEONE HOLD ME BACK BEFORE I STOMP ON THIS NIGGA

>>375874915
I thought told y'all to sit down or get down
I'm about'a hit ground
When I'm in the box, my hits way out of this bounds
Nobody's topping me
(You know it, damn right)
Most of y'alls loving me
(Doing it all night)

>>375874915
still the most catchy and iconic battle theme of all time

>>375869474
5's story is utter trash.

>>375875356
most stupid idiot ridiculous battle theme of all time
3fag

>>375875191
Aside from the battle themes which are debatable, P3 and P4 have better town/free time themes. Only real contenders in that regard are Sunset Bridge and Beneath the Rain.
4 and 5 are about equal in Dungeon themes, while P3 lags behind drastically.

P5's OST fits it really well with almost none of the tracks feeling out of place though.

Why is the persona awakening boss fight music so much better than the main boss track

also where can I download video game music except for ffshrine? I forgot my password there and the fucking reset password function doesn't work

P3 has that god awful school theme during the summer but at least the mall and dorm themes are dank.

>>375869474
I agree but i to add this
>Pace
P3>P4>>>>>P5
The pace in P5 is fucking mortifying and all over the place and it seriously made the game so much worse to me

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>>375869474
>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5 > 3 > 4
Music
3 = 4 = 5

>>375869474
Swap 4 and 5 for story and I would agree.

>>375875475
This.

>>375876180
I would reverse that. P3 has some of the most abysmal pacing I've ever seen in anything and 5 was the only one that kept me engaged throughout the whole thing, where P3 and 4 both lost my interest at one point or another.

Dude adults lmao.
Dude self-insert Gary Stu lmao.

Persona is no better than those trashy light novels Japan shits out every day.

>>375876180
>3
>best pacing
>quite literally nothing happens for like 3 months in the middle of the game

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>>375869474
>music
>4 being better than 5

>>375869474
>Gameplay
5>4>3
>Story
3>5>4
>Music
5>3>4
>Characters
4>3>5
>Enemies
5>3>4
>Persona Summoning Gimmick
3>5>4
>Villain
Adachi>Yaldabaoth>Gun Jesus>Kamiya>Eyeball>Nyx>Skeleton Lady

This is the only Truth.

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>gameplay
5>P3P>4>3>2>1
>Story
P2:IS>5>P2:EP>3>1>4
>music
3>2>5=4>1

I have only played core SMT games, never Persona games, but I'm buying P5 next week excluvisely because of that fucking soundtrack.

>>375876573
Play the game.

>>375876825
Sorry I didn't finish 5 because of the MC's edgy smug smile for self-inserting teenagers.

Tell me when he stops doing that please.

>>375876573
>Dude adults lmao.
That applies only to P5, and only if you change it to "Dude shitty adults lmao."
Each of the games very clearly has a different message.

>Dude self-insert Gary Stu lmao.
You do realise there's absolutely nothing special about the MC's right? They're not chosen by god or given OP powers from the get go.

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>>375875634
>4 and 5 are about equal in Dungeon themes, while P3 lags behind drastically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVx1lZSnoI
is better than any Palace theme and 4 only have Heaven that comes close.
Not to mention Monorail theme, even though technically it's not really a dungeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiP9Bhha0-4

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>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5 > 3 > 4
>Music
3 = 4 = 5

>>375876970
>They're not given OP powers from the get go
What is wild card.

>>375876725
>Villain
I think you can't really compare Yaldabaoth to Adachi
Yaldabaoth would be on the level of Ameno-Sagiri or Izanami
Adachi just plain beats the shit out of Akechi though

Anyone that ranks 5 low in music is just proving they're uncultured swine who can't appreciate smooth jazz.

>>375876961
Like I said, play the game

>>375877345
Get your head out of the sand lad.

I'm about to download P3 and play it for the first time, the site lists "Original BGM" and "Remixed BGM" for the undubbed FES download, which one should I get?

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>>375876180
3 really dragged on at the end so no.

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They are all great but i enjoyed Persona 5 the most

>>375877404
Original. Download and listen to remixes later.

>>375877137
The potential for OP powers, not a super cheating power boost from the start. That's the entire point, it's up to them to make use of it.
Adachi, Namatame and Akechi are perfect examples of this.

All three of them are given the same situation as the MC's, but they all fall flat in some way or another.

Orpheus, Izanagi and Arsene are all also pathetic personas.

>>375877387
Play the game

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>>375876725
>Adachi and Yaldabaoth
>Better villains than Nyx and Shido

>People unironically putting P5's OST ahead of anything when it had like 2-3 good song tops
Seems like the honeymoon phase is still strong.

>>375877663
Uncultured swine detected

>>375876982
P3's only got the one + remixes of other games that Fuuka plays, didn't it? Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
Deep Breath, Deep Breath I thought was the Babe Hunt theme.

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>Persona 5
>good gameplay
Here's a guide on how to win every battle in Persona 5
>press R1
>hit X
>hit X
And for boss battles
>Concentrate
>Almighty attack
And people say 1 and 2 have monotonous gameplay...

>>375877663
This desu senpai.

Its got nothing on Persona 3's soundtrack and Persona 4's best tracks are way more memorable than, like, 80% of Persona 5's soundtrack.

I'd describe Persona 5's soundtrack as lacking.

>>375877651
>Shido
Anyone is better than that retard.

>>375877651
>Shido
Apart from his resemblance to Armstrong he wasn't that great.
That whole conversation with him and Akechi literally going "we're so evil and clever muahahaha" still cracks me up

>>375877795
Put in more effort next time like no green texting about a skill you can't possibly have before more than half the bosses are over with.

>>375869474
>music
>3

>>375877769
Yeah, it's Fuuka's track and it's great.
Deep Breath first played during the first full moon mission.

I agree with everything but the last:

3 > 5 > 4 for Music.

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Story
3 = 4 = 5

They're all fucking terrible.

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Can I reload a different save after switching to Safe so I'm not stuck on Safe?

I just want to get a certain trophy now, instead of 20+ hours from now.

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>>375869474
>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
4 > 5 > 3 but they're all not great
>Music
5 >>>>>>>> 3 > 4
>Overall
5 > 4 > 3

The only one I feel even kinda strongly about is the music, 5 blew the other two so far out of the water

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>>375876982
Optional music you can make Fuuka play isn't a dungeon theme retard.

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>>375878148
I need to find another reason to live now that i finished Persona 5

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P5 jazz is cool, but singer sounds like she's some kind of asian nigger mutant with mouth full of dicks.

>>375874702
The truth

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>>375878000
You mean concentrate? Just slam regular Almighty attacks then, the bosses before you get concentrate have no health or are weak to spells your teammates have so you can get just pressing R1XX again. People keep saying Persona 5 has good gameplay but I'm at the end of my NG+ and even if I gimp myself and not use higher level personas it's still easy, even on Merciless. At least in P1 you had to put thought into assigning locations, and on P2 you had to make sure you could do fusion spells right. P3 and P4 are no better, but at least P3 and P4 fags don't go around acting like their game had amazing gameplay.

>>375878132
Safe should lock you into Safe until NG+ for that save file only, you can also switch to safe before Yaldabaoth and farm money at 100k every 1 turn battle.
This is mostly speculation, but it should work.

What achievement?

>>375878231
Why not exactly? Might as well be Tartarus theme.

>>375878423
The one I posted. I just want to beat the twins now.

I'll do it again later at a proper level and difficulty, I'm just kinda impatient.

>>375878437
Because it isn't the Tartarus theme which is the dungeon music, what's hard to understand about this.

I agree 100% but most people probably dont.

>>375869474
I agree with everything except

Music. I would put 5 ahead of 4. That is my only exception.

>>375878542
Just because it's not default dungeon theme doesn't mean it doesn't count.
But whatever you can keep on comparing music on whatever head rules you want, I don't care.

>>375871705
Truest post in the thread

Why doesn't anyone talk about persona 1 and 2 in these threads?

>>375878769
They don't actually exist

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>>375878769
The kinds of people who like P1 and P2 are the exact opposite of most of the people on /v/.

>>375878148
>5 blew the other two so far out of the water
Honeymoon effect. P5's ending theme is shit compare to Memories of You and Nevermore. So forgettable I forgot the name of the song.

>>375878769
3-5 might as well be it's own series.

Honestly I tried to play 1 and thought it was boring and tedious. 2 seemed better but the combat was so bad at least early on. I'll give it another chance eventually.

>>375878749
Are you an actual retard?
That's like plugging headphones in and listening to completely unrelated music and saying "Ah, truly Persona 3 has the best dungeon music."

>>375878749
Maybe because they are from Persona 1 and 2 and not fucking 3? Do you even understand what the snow queen song means?

>>375878865
I've completely forgotten the ending theme for all the games because I actively suppress memories of jpop, so that's no big deal for me.

3-4 have better high points in the music.
5 has a better average.

>>375878865
Never More is shit.

Memories of You > With the Stars and Us > Never More

>>375879051
Autism must be nice

>>375878532
Theoretically it shouldn't lock you into it, but I don't know for certain.

>>375869474
>Gameplay
5>4>3
>Story
5>3>4
>Music
5>4>3

>>375874702
Pretty good.

>>375877795
Bad trolling. Press F1 for faggot.

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>>375874702
Actually true

>>375877826
lol just give it time, all Persona soundtracks grow on you eventually.

>>375879389
Ok, explain to me where the depth of Persona 5's combat lies.

>>375879175
With the Stars and Us is the most boring Persona song ever made. Made me want to fall asleep.

>>375878946
>a song included in the game is the same as listening some random shit
Whatever, retard.

>>375878952
So? They're remixes, so why not. Do you also consider every Velvet Room theme to be the same?

3 had the best boss theme
unavoidable battle shits all over 5, and is still marginally superior to 4

3 is kind of equal to 4 for battle theme since 3's starts vastly better, but 4 is solid throughout.
5 isn't bad, it's just not great

Daily life music is pretty easy 3>4>5
The dorm theme along with the nighttime theme easily knock the other two

5>4>3 for best OP theme

>>375879197
>It's autistic to not like Jpop

Have we come full circle /v/ros?

>>375879597
>Lyn has no tal-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q34aIo8AfQ&t=6m00s

>>375879591
Ok, Well for one you can actually use Gun attacks and Sword attacks throughout the game and its not limited earlier in the series also you can switch out teammates in the game without having to wait after the battle to do so. Now you explain to me how Persona 4 and 3 somehow have more depth to it?

>>375869474
yes

>>375871645
snowflakes is so damn comfy

>>375879749
Sounds like shit. If you wanted to show a video of her talent, should have showed Rivers.

>>375879764
They don't have any more depth to them, it's just cringy to see people imply that P5 has more. Switching out teammates doesn't really matter, the only good teammates at the endgame are Ann, Ryuji, and Haru. Gun attacks are pretty much worthless because demon attacks do them better even with the entire party equipped with the ultimate guns.

>>375869474
3's story was dogshit.
It's just monster of the week bullshit for 75% of the game. Revolver Jesus was fun but not enough to save the story.

>>375879505
I was gonna call you out on it, but then I realised that I ended up singing all of the OST's by the end of their respective games. Even the ones without lyrics.

>>375879857
SNOWFLAKES FALLING ON YOUR FACE, A COLD WIND BLOWS AWAY
THE LAUGHTER FROM THIS TREASURED PLACE, BUT IN OUR MEMORIES IT STAYS.

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>>375880027
>It's just monster of the week bullshit for 75% of the game

>>375879964
>Explained how the game has more depth because it has a Gun and Sword to attack which gives more weaknesses to exploit in the game
>Tries refuting by saying it does not have depth because of their opinion it does not.

> Switching out teammates doesn't really matter, the only good teammates at the endgame are Ann, Ryuji, and Haru.

Let me ask how badly did you get your ass handed to you throughout the lineup without actually switching out every now and then with the characters?

Oh yes just to let you know on top of everything else. There was the addition of Nuclear ability, Technicals and burned being a thing as well which actually makes the battles interesting and far more superior than the bland combat in the earlier games.

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>>375880027
When people say 3 has the best story, they're really only remembering the lategame/endgame because endgame was just that fucking good. But they forgot that a lot of the game was
>super formulaic with the Full Moon Shadows
>a whole lot of fucking nothing happening in between full moons
>Strega were shitty villains
>Ikutsuki was a shitty villain

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>gameplay (dungeons and combat specifically)
1 > 5 > 2EP > 4 > 2IS > 3
>story
2 > 3 > 1 > 4 > 5
>characters
2 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 1
>music
1 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 1PSP > 4

>>375879857
Snowflakes was also not in the original P4. So we can't really have this discussion if everyone is pulling tracks from Golden and FES.

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>>375880195
You don't belong here contrarian-san

>>375880027
It's true honestly. P3's story spikes in quality at the very end but is otherwise pretty bad.

>>375880027
>monster of the week bullshit for 75%
Literally every single Persona game.

>>375879051
>ending themes are all Jpop
https://youtu.be/UcYlTUjzA6k

>people complaining that Persona is formulaic and have free time in between major plot events

You're playing the wrong part of the franchise.

>>375880260
The only "contrarian" opinion is P1 having best gameplay (which is only considered such because most people who play persona don't care for raw dungeon crawling and/or are put off by how clunky it can be, both of which are perfectly fair).

>>375880027
>t's just monster of the week bullshit for 75% of the game. Revolver Jesus was fun but not enough to save the story.

Someone didint play the game or just is making excuses here. Persona has been like that for almost every single game.

YOUR LOVE CAME ALL

You are very much correct OP.

>>375880195
>even a P2fag puts P4 characters high
I don't get it. What do people see in the P4 cast? They were all so fucking boring aside from Kanji.

>>375880187
>super formulaic with the Full Moon Shadows
Literally the same situation as Palaces and Kidnappings to the T(Tee?).

>a whole lot of fucking nothing happening in between full moons
Which is exactly the same as 4 and 5 again, like the only difference between them all is the order it occurs in.

>Ikutsuki was a shitty villain
>Strega were shitty villains
That's true, but the other game's didn't exactly have great villains either.

5 has the best music. How the fuck did the Japs become king of Jazz while America listens to mumble rap?

4>5>3

>>375869474
>Story
3 is still the best, 4 is too slice of life anime for me but still good enough to keep interested, 5 comes pretty close to 3 if it wasn't for the retarded writing in some parts and bland characters.

Thematically speaking, 5 does the job best as it portrays the whole thief gimmick fantastically. The rest are pretty ordinary when it comes to this.

3 has the least interesting bosses, 4 and 5 are about equal as far as bosses go.

The characters are bland as fuck in 5, I don't know if they will ever top P3 or P2 in this. I can't bring myself to care about anyone in 5 and the only character that was interesting in 4 was Kanji. 5 has the best MC though.

>Gameplay
Obviously 5 is the best while 3 is the worst, but its an unfair judge considering we wouldn't have reached what 5 is gameplay-wise without 3 and 4. This is honestly a moot comparison for just about any game series.

>Music
3 best but it has the worst battle music.
5 is second best but it has the worst boss music.
4 is the absolute worse when it comes to this, all the songs are shitty except the boss theme and the golden battle theme.

>>375869474
everything about 4 was dookie

>>375880547
I dont understand it either. In my opinion Persona 3 has always had the better storyline than 4 all throughout it. But i would say Persona 3 and 4 are actually close music wise as well as 5. That is just due to preference by the end of the day.

>>375869474
Yes you are correct but only with some minor adjustments

>Gameplay
Prety much any of SMT game > 5 > Shit > 4 > 3
>Story
Shit > 3 > 5 > 4
>Music
Pretty much any of SMT game > 3 > 4 > 5

Its fixed.

>>375880713
Meant to write other not of

sorry my mistake fellas

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>>375880713

>>375880184
>more weaknesses
that isn't more depth, that just makes battles take longer until you fuse the demon or randomly hit it correctly, every battle after which you just do the same thing over and over again with R1XX
>switching characters
There's no reason to use Morgana, Yusuke, or Makoto during the endgame because their versatility is inferior to the Protagonist. There's no reason to use them when you could just have the protagonist use a support persona and then switch to a combat persona the turn after increasing overall DPS. MP management is only important in the early dungeons when you can't switch out anyway.

>addition of nuclear
you mean they readded it after taking it away. Also above about redundant additions.

>technicals
Probably the one good addition to the game, although by the end so many demons are nigh immune to status effects that it ends up not mattering. There isn't any reliable way to proc them anyway, at best it's just random bonus damage.

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>>375880195
This anon knows what's up

>>375880713
Thanks for filling our SMT autist quota for the thread, I was waiting for it.

>>375880898
Sorry I like actually good games

>>375880981

I tip my fedora good sir!

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>>375880195
Good tastes, although I think out of personal preference I might switch 5 and 1's characters, if only for their appearance in 2.

>>375880981
Here have your (you) you can get out now mr patrician man

>>375880680
P3 characters were kind of one note.

Revenge + revenge + revenge +revenge. It's all the same with them. At least the motivations were fairly different for each in P4. Aigis and Koromaru were the only unique characters in 3

>>375880596
Actually i can agree with you on all of your points. I do not like to admit that 5 dropped the ball in the final part of the boss music(i did like Rivers but the one on the TRUE boss i did not think was that good).

I dont know about characters being bland in 5? I would always assume 4 had more bland unreletable characters, Also if we are to go back as far as 3 its fair to say Fuuka was really not that well devoloped and Mitsuru kind of fell short slightly. Its kind of been historical that there will be a few bad characters in the series.

I even will admit Haru is the only one that kind of felt uneeded but then again she was written near the end anyways.

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How is Merciless difficulty in 5 compared to Expert in 3 and 4?

>>375880860
>that isn't more depth, that just makes battles take longer until you fuse the demon or randomly hit it correctly, every battle after which you just do the same thing over and over again with R1XX

Actually it is more depth because if you can find more weaknesses you have different ways to attack rather than fusion one particular persona and hit it correctly.

>There's no reason to use Morgana, Yusuke, or Makoto during the endgame because their versatility is inferior to the Protagonist. There's no reason to use them when you could just have the protagonist use a support persona and then switch to a combat persona the turn after increasing overall DPS. MP management is only important in the early dungeons when you can't switch out anyway.

Wait a minute no reason to use Makoto or Morgana? Are you kidding me? Ann is also useful as well due to her Dekaja ability to get rid of all the debuffs that becomes extremely useful for the next to last boss in the game. Also Morgana is useful because he can actually revive your team and use big healing spells on the entire party. Using one protoganist to fulfill all those duties would not cut it at all because the bosses will be really good against it.

>>375881271
Braindead easy. Nothing in 5 has the difficulty of Elizabeth, Nyx, or a table.

>>375881036
dam u got me

>>375881101
Its not "patrician" to dislike Persona and like regular SMT though, its common fucking sense. Persona games are like 1/3 actual dungeon crawling and 2/3 VN/waifusim shit. If the games actually had decent writing or characters, then it wouldn't be that much of a problem.

>>375879172
pretty much this. Though I'd argue 3 had a lot of good tracks, just 5 has more overall tracks therefore giving it more good tracks.

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>>375881536
You are trying to hard

>>375881536
(You)

>>375881536
Go play persona 1 and 2, you impotent cum-snorter. It's obvious enough that you haven't played any of them, but you can at least make pretense at knowing literally anything about the series.

>>375881505
Nyx wasn't hard, just long.

And do appreciate 5 being harder than 4 at least.

>>375869474
itt shit taste

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>>375869474
>
>>Gameplay
>5 > 4 > 3
>>Story
>3 > 5 > 4
>>Music
>5 > 3 > 4

>>375881504
Adding more weaknesses does nothing to change the actual gameplay, it just adds one more turn you have to experiment with hitting an enemy until you hit them with that same ability every time you see them afterward. By the time you unlock Yusuke you can already outheal Morgana, and there isn't any point using him afterward because if you need to heal you can just switch to a healing persona for one turn, heal, and then switch back to a full DPS persona. No reason to use an inferior choice when any turn that Morgana or Makoto aren't healing they're doing subpar damage compared to what the Protagonist or any other party member, even Yusuke, could be doing.

>>375881831
4 is harder still. The Slink abilities in 5 break the game.

>>375881130
Persona 3 was more about dealing with loss and revenge as well. I think it hits a fine line if you look at it overall and not just the motivations. Each game kind of has a theme to it.

>>375881924
Accurate.

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>>375881924
>Facebook
You have to go back.

>>375881505
Elizabeth doesn't have difficulty she is just a checklist. I feel like people that meme about her never actually fought her in the first place.

>>375877651
Nyx isn't even a character. Nyx is just a fucking force.

>>375882012
The only one that really breaks the game is Strength Rank 10's ability and you can't get that until Level 51.

Abilities aside, random encounters are a lot more dangerous than in 4 and bosses get more turns than most of the ones in 4 did.

>>375882208
Nyx Avatar is definitely though, and he's basically the antagonist for the second half if you don't count Nyx as a proper existence.

Nyx Avatar/Ryoji was a really neat idea for a final opponent.

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>>375869474
We can go deeper than that
>Gameplay
5>3>4>2>1

>Story
2>3>5>1>4

>Music
5=3>4>1>2

>>375882384
He's not really a villain either. The game doesn't really have one it's just about some teenagers having to clean up Mitsuru's shitty grandads fuck up.

>>375880563
Not "literally the same" no because each of the villains had a plot and arc to them. The Full Moon Shadows are irrelevant to their arcs, said arcs just belong to other people entirely unrelated to the Shadow that eventually shows up and gets ass fucked.

>>375881924
Was P4's battle theme really that incoherent gibberish?

>>375882384
Nyx Avatar is an antagonist for all of half a second.

>>375875356
>not YOU NEVA SEE IT CUM EEEEEEEEEEEN
Hows that shit taste feel in your mouth 24/7?

>>375882514
https://youtu.be/Mk0A5uFoG3c

>Saes palace
>CHAMPAGNE FLUTES AND DINNER SUITS
>combat
>CHAMPAGNE FLUTES AND DINNER SUITS
>progression
>CHAMPAGNE FLUTES AND DINNER SUITS
>combat
>CHAMPAGNE FLUTES AND DINNER SUITS

who the fuck thought this was a good idea

>>375876970
>door-kun isnt special
Lol

>>375882258
>The only one that really breaks the game is Strength Rank 10's ability and you can't get that until Level 51.
Sojiro gives you infinite SP combined with the Teacher. Star allows you to switch members during combat, and Tower gives Electric Slug. Enemies aren't a threat because of 3x damage or crits and weakness. Bosses also rarely use Dekuna and Dekaja besides Shido.

>>375882457
>He's not really a villain either.
That's because he's one of your closest friends.
I'm not saying he's amazing, but he's the only thing that fits and it's a fairly touching battle.

He only wishes the best for you and very clearly doesn't want to fight you, even though he has to. It's really nice when you think about how you're all fighting one of your friends, and that he spends the battle giving you really helpful life advice and encouraging you.

>>375882641
He doesn't actively want to kill you at any point, but if you don't consider Nyx as a proper threat he's the only candidate that fits the antagonist role.

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>>375874702
my nigga

>>375882446
>Gameplay
>3>4
Why? I liked giving vague commands in 3/4 but I don't see how 3 is better than 4.

>>375869474
>Music
*4>5>3
fixed that for you

>>375878132
WASTED

>>375881536
>DUDE DEMONS LMAO
IV was trash the only SJ and Nocturne were good

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>>375884491
Worse tastes than Personafags

>>375869474
Correct

my opinions are a little different

>gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>story
4 > 3 > 5
>music
3 = 4 = 5
>characters
5 > 3 > 4
>level design
5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > 3

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>tfw fusing a Shiki-Ouji with Marukunda, Matarunda, and Swift Strike.

>>375881828
I'm only talking about persona 3-5 obviously you retard.

>>375884873
Having two buffs wastes too many turns for the MC, unless you've got Debilitate I don't even bother. You should teach Ann Matarunda instead, she's OP damage wise and a great support.

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Futaba is by far the cutest purse owner so far at least to me.

>>375884873
I literally didn't believe that fucking cap existed until I saw it.

10/10 I'm still laughing

>>375885432
second best girl

>>375869474
>Can we agree
do you read what you post?

>>375869474
>3
>story

Pick one.

>>375876579
Let's not forget that the last two months are shit
With the month before that being a whole lot of nothing.

Huh, seems like a lot of the game is shit or something.

>Persona Q a spinoff of a spinoff crossover of a literally who-lolicon series is better than all of the main Persona games

Yeah great series you got there guys

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>>375887213

>>375887456
It is though, have you played it?

>>375887689
Yes i have it was not better than the main games

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P3/P4 has a few hits and misses in it's soundtrack, but when it hits, it's definitely chill as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iy47Q--EbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDkfG56Jbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Mt56OdLRk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvoKyIYHC4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-XzhAMFAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDr_krEQNrU

P5 has tracks that I find myself dancing to most often, though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rrDn52dGgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7kdoEt2xg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBsm7w3MoE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwlYiO6e9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDiHZiBtpE

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>>375870847
All of them have a Shit plot, 3's is the least bad.

>>375869474
Agreed, but only because 5 didn't have as much variety in it's music, otherwise it would have beat 4. Still pissed that the music didn't change with the season like 3 and 4.

>>375889393
P4's music didn't change with the season, it changed with the weather.

>>375889509
Snowflakes plays during Winter.

>>375889812
>P4G
Doesn't count

>>375889509
Pretty sure it changes with the season. But I played Golden, so who knows.

>>375869474
I can agree with this, except for Music I'd go with:
5 > 3 > 4

>>375889885
How does it not? It's the recent and best version of 4. That's like saying FES doesn't count or Portable.

>>375890105
You're comparing enhanced versions of 3 and 4 to a vanilla version of 5. How is that fair?

>>375890329
When people compare 3 and 4, it's always FES and portable to vanilla 4. Same thing OP is doing. Besides 5 should be good enough that it can be stand on its own against enhanced versions.

>>375890895
I don't think it's fair because you brought up a music improvement that only happened in a later version where the devs looked back on the original and saw improvement. Same with the anon earlier bringing up the changeable music tracks in FES.

If P5 had an enhanced version, they'd probably add in more music tracks as well, fixing your complaint about variety.

>4's characters
>above anything
The worst character in 5 is the best if put in 4

>>375871645
it's mostly just vapid j-pop, I don't understand how anyone can be passionate about it. If you like the atrociousness that is Hearbreak, Heartbeat too you really must have shit taste in music outside of gaming, too. When that shit plays in-game I'm almost triggered at how shit it is. I vastly preferr SMT, Persona 1 and 2 above the normie shit they pulled from 3 and up.

>>375887829
>P3 and P4
>elevator music, hip hop cancer, muh beats, shitty j-pop, tween rock cancer

P5 overall improved on all that and is much more tolerable. A bit jazzier, smoother. Still a lot of elevator music, but less offensive.

>>375891106
I agree with you, but the Atlus should learn the lesson of making a complete game the first time and not needing a maniax version a few years down. The improvements from FES/Golden should be in the base game like the costumes being purchasable and not DLC.

>>375891572
Songs from 3/4 are snazzy and comfy tunes that stick in your head long after you finished them. It's all very catchy and memorable.

>tfw when you need a hanheld like the 3DS to have a proper megaten OST post-2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHhpFGmmUMU&list=PLuu7gfeeGV4TKifRVuYQCVEIU1lGJoIhG

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>>375874702
This

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Fool Arcana
P3 = P3P > P4 > P5

Magician Arcana
P3P > P5 > P4 > P3

Priestess Arcana
P5 > P4 > P3

Empress Arcana
P3 > P5 > P4

Emperor Arcana
P5 > P4 > P3

Hierophant Arcana
P5 > P4 > P3

Lovers Arcana
P4 > P3 > P5

Chariot Arcana
P3P > P4 > P5 > P3

Strength Arcana
P5 > P3P > P4(Daisuke) > P4(Kou) > P3

Hermit Arcana
P3P > P5 > P3 > P4

Fortune Arcana
P3P > P5 > P4 > P3

Justice Arcana
P4 > P5 > P3 > P3P

Hanged Man Arcana
P5 > P3 >> P4

Death Arcana
P5 > P3 > P4

Temperance Arcana
P5 >> P3 > P4

Devil Arcana
P3 > P4 > P5

Tower Arcana
P3 >> P5 > P4

Star Arcana
P3P > P5 > P4 > P3

Moon Arcana
P3P > P4 > P5 > P3

Sun Arcana
P3 > P5 > P4

Judgement Arcana
P3 > P4 > P5

Whoa That Ain't Muh Deck

>>375877636
How about you play a real Shin Magoomay Ten-say, anon?

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Best track, hands down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVr4QzdwjHQ

>>375892124
>snazzy and comfy

Some tracks are OK, but some are pretty fucking annoying too. Some of them I can only see appeal to tween girls.

>p5 has bad music
>blooming villain
>life will change instrumental
>futaba palace theme

please

>>375869474
Only on gameplay, apart from that:

>Story
4>3>5
Felt that the pacing in 4 was decent and the story while simple, the story had a direction.
3 had direction but pacing was quite bad.
5 story was quite aimless regarding direction which made a lot of the supporting cast/villains more of plot devices rather than characters.
Plot in the 3 games is hit and miss honestly.

>Cast
4>5>3
4 had the best human villain and main cast interacted a lot.
5 main cast interacted only for discussion of PT matters and relegated banter to mementos(which was good but sidelined)
3's cast felt quite boring to be honest and they were most of coworkers rather than friends
5 and 3 human villains suck ass but 5 less than 3 due to Kamoshida and to some extent Shido and Madarame(meaning wanting to kick their asses).

>Music
3=4=5
Every game has catchy music and kinda meh music too

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5 > 3 > 4
>Music
3 > 5 > 4
>Characters
5 > 3 > 4

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>>375892653
You are the guy from the other thread aren't you

>>375892565
>but some are pretty fucking annoying too
Not really. A large amount of good reception given to Persona has always been it's music.
>some of them I can only see appeal to tween girls.
You can't really say this when Nocturne's main battle theme and standard boss is made for edgelords

daily reminder that yukiko does not tell the investigation team that adachi was the first murder victim's bodyguard the night she went missing until 8 months into the game

>>375869474
gameplaye
watching grass grow>5>4>3
average shitty naruto filler>4>3>5
Elevator music>4>3>5

>>375893198
What

What are some personas that naturally have charge or concentrate?

>>375869474
what the hell do people have with P3's story. the end was the best but almost everything until it was crap.

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
5>3>4
>Music
5> 3 > 4
>Characters
5>4>3
5=3>4 if we count Fes with Junpei.
A good toaster cannot save a game alone

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Okay guys, hear me out, this is how we fix the beginning of P3.

Have Shinji part of Strega, keep his backstory and everything the same.
Actually have more Strega fights
Actually have all the members fight together at least once
Have Revolver Jesus scale with the Protag and have every element to use
Introduce Ryoji a bit earlier and have an slink with him like in p3p
Also add a fucking Strega fight in December because that month was boring as shit

>Gameplay
5 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 1
>Story
2 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 1
>Cast
3 > 2 > 5 > 4 > 1
>OST
3 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 1

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I have around 500 dollars in my pocket right now. I can either get a PS4 with Persona 5 and some other game or a low-end PC. What should pick?
My current "computer" barely works.

>>375874702
uderrated post.

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>>375874702
This.

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>>375869474
i like this series but you have to admit the gameplay is pretty dumbed down. even repetitive.

exploit wk/crit > AOA
wk/crit > baton pass etc > wk/crit > * > AOA
buff atk > debuff nm def >charge/concentrate > zenmetsu etc

ad nauseum

the only "depth" this game has going for it is the compendium and the sense of satisfaction you get by "beating" the RNG in attaching all the optimal skills to your preferred pokemons. even then the game gives you exploits to make it super easy to get past the RNG barrier (mementos boss money exploit, and repear flu exploit to bridge the level gaps).

>>375882846
Hey you mother fucker, I loved that theme.

>>375874702
this guy gets it

>>375893416
aside from the cast, this one is pretty good
I forgot about 1 and 2 since op didn't put them in.
P2 fucking remake when.

>>375893392
>Introduce Ryoji a bit earlier
I always thought this would improve P3 too. But I think they introduce Ryoji so late and kill him off right away because he's supposed to be a reference to Kaworu from Evangelion.

The game could've cut out every single text message segment and nothing would've been lost

>Hey, we gotta do the thing
>If we do thing, thing will happen
>It will happen, right?
>Let's do thing

Every fucking day

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>>375893840
I was a bit pleased when the bantz still happened in text chat.

>>375892965
I rarely though P5 was that bad, but some tracks in P3 and P4 really are shitty tween pop-tier. Nocturne's battle and boss themes follow the same trend as Persona did. Pandering to edgelord tweens is still pandering to normalfags. Atlus did it much better in the 90's when they actually made videogame OSTs. I'd rather listen to the monotone loops in SMT1 than some of the shit they pulled with P1 and P2 remakes on PSP, P3 and onward.

>>375893365
people gloss over the flaws of things they like
nobody talks about how junpei is the only real character that changes multiple times over the course of the story and arguably yukari, everybody else joins and then is static until they hit their big persona evolution months later
nobody talks about how innocent sin's story is mostly crammed into the endgame like P3's
nobody talks about how the plot of P4 barely moves forward until november and covers this up with tons of SoL scenes

>>375893809
I don't feel like Ryoji was much of a friend with how late and how little time he spent with me. Him and Junpei were more friends than Ryoji and me were.

Same with Strega, good idea but executed poorly. They never fight as a group and Chidori feels like a chick just so Jin doesn't suck Jesus' cock by himself.

>>375869474

why does everyone hate 3's gameplay?

i played 5 first and have just started playing 3FES and i really like how you can't control the party members. it really makes them feel like individual characters instead of just your puppets and the AI is usually smart enough to make good decisions on its own

>>375892780
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>375874702
/thread.
No need to scroll further.

>>375894112
Wait until you get World Balance and Dancing Table and say that wasn't shit.

>>375893956
God, Fes was goddamn annoying but it's worth it for 2 things: heartful cry and Junpei.
Even at the end of P3 I still wasn't sure about whether I liked the guy or not, but Fes made im one of the best, no question asked.

>>375894112
>the AI is usually smart enough to make good decisions on its own
Best joke I've heard all day.

>>375894112
>AI is usually smart enough to make good decisions on its own

How far in are you? Marin Karin, Hama, and Mudo aren't fun to deal with.

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>>375894112
How do you like marin karin and ice break my dude

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>>375894112
>it really makes them feel like individual characters

Nah nigga, from a video game perspective, that's not fun at all. You might not even like video games if you're saying something like that.

>>375894205
Junpei was the only bro who didn't stay a prick. Ryuji is fucking annoying as hell. Yosuke is a horrible human being.

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>Story
3 > 5 > 2
>Music
5 > 3 > 4
>Overall
5 > 3 = 2 > 4 > 1

>>375894386
Ryuji is annoying through the first half of the game but at least he goes through some character development and realizes he should stop treating the Phantom Thieves like some sort of game or way to pick up chicks.

He was very mature in the final ending cutscene.

Replaying Persona 3, why the fuck are the anime cutscenes incoherent as fuck they just quick cut all over the place

>>375894461
Ryuji is annoying all the way up to the final dungeon. I wanted him to suck a dick and fuck off. Being loud and obnoxious all the time, who thought this would be a good character?

>>375894497
t's artistic.

>>375894461
the problem with ryuuji is the game makes it too easy to SL max him early on. because of that you forget how cool he actually is and are only left with the impression of him being a loud mouth through the rest of the game. this could have been fixed by introducing some other confidants (or lowering the social stat barrier on them) sooner

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>>375894285
Futaba, you're not even a playable character and stop depending on MC just because you're a NEET.

>>375894497
They were done by an E-tier Korean studio

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>>375894585
>broke ass artist who can't even feed himself properly trying to tell others how to live their life

>>375894585
>Futaba, you're not even a playable character

she will be soon, don't worry, just wait for P5A.

>>375894497
Persona wasn't big when P3 came out, so the studio they got to do the anime cutscenes wasn't very good. For what it's worth, I really dig the dark atmosphere in them though, perfectly captures the tone of the game. 4's were boring despite being better animated and 5's anime cutscenes are actually worse compared to the in-game engine cutscenes ironically.

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>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
I don't even need to explain myself.

>Story
3 > 5 > 4
3's endgame blows it all out of the water and makes up for the shitty early and mid game. 4 is a saturday morning cartoon with water in it. 5 is okay most of the time, some of the shit was boring at times like Futaba shit.

>Music
3 > 5 > 4
3 has almost no bad tracks, 5 has some forgettable ones, and 4 has some pretty bad ones.

>Characters
5 >3 > 4
The worst character in 5 is still the best character if you put then in 4. 3 didn't have annoying dipshits.

>>375894757
i like how atlus didn't censor the logo on her bluetooth headset. futaba has good taste for using those AKG K845's

>>375894585
>>375894285
When are you two gonna fuck?

>>375893416
>OST
>3 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 1

t. underage faggot who played the psp remakes of 1 and 2 and not the originals

>Gameplay
5>4>3

>Story
4>5>3

>Music
3>4>5

Characters
3>4>5
Ryuji's character makes no sense half way through, and most of them don't even interact with each other. You don't/can't see Ryuji talking with Makoto or him hanging out with Haru for instance.

>>375893947
The tracks in 5 simply aren't as remarkable as in 3/4. Most are just standard BGM backloops that have no variation. Some songs for 3/4 are pop but that doesn't make them bad since the games have more events going on or enhanced the game's atmosphere of living in a Japanese city than straight type dungeon crawling music like mainline. Songs like I'll Face Myself and Battle for Everyone's Souls are straight PS2 Atlus at its core. And if you rather listen to the monotone loops of 1 than something like Snowflakes then that's on you. Music is the most highly subjective form of media and every song won't appeal to everyone.

>>375893464
Depends on what games you like. Ps4 is better for weeb games and good exclusives released recently, but if you like older games you can do so much more on a PC with emulation. Piracy is also much easier if you're such a poorfag that even steam sales is too expensive.

>>375892124
I don't think a "complete" game has ever been released; Game releases are on a tight schedule, humans can only do so much with limited time, and shit always gets cut or rushed out.

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>>375895061
>You don't/can't see Ryuji talking with Makoto or him hanging out with Haru for instance.
But I did. How about you playing the game instead of watching youtube ?

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>>375874702
Best

>>375895273
that's just 1 piece of dialogue and it doesn't seem like he's good friends with Makoto, just teammates for the phantom thieves. Same with Haru

>>375895069
>Songs like I'll Face Myself and Battle for Everyone's Souls are straight PS2 Atlus at its core
So are Keeper of Lust and Will Power in P5. Also I don't see how you can call 5's soundtrack "Standard." It's all under the theme of Acid Jazz which is very unique for a game soundtrack. Hell some of P5's tracks even sound like they could be Nujabes songs.

I think people are just not clicking with P5's soundtrack because it's not bombastic and in your face like 3's and 4's. It's a lot more mellow and soft and smooth but there's nothing wrong with that at all.

>>375869474
No. I like the music better in 4.

>>375895069
SMTIV is the best OST they've done in years. I want well-crafted videogame BGMs, 90's style, not some vapid knockoff C-tier j-pop pandering to Jap normalfags. PS2 Atlus is a bit more hit and miss, and I think the P5 OST does more things right than P3 and P4. The worst are P1 and P2 remakes on psp though, it's attrocious if you've played the originals.

>>375895273
I too love listening 10 second clips that get cutoff every time you perform action. Mementos was a mistake. And it's dialogue should have been in the main game.

>>375891572
Heartbreak is immensely better than any of the trash in P3.

>>375895537
P2's PSP soundtrack wasn't that bad. although I will still agree the arrangements are inferior to the originals.

>>375895612
I never said P3 wasn't trash either

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>>375895421
They're good friends alright if you count the PT's first impression of Makoto. Haru's introduction could have been earlier.
My point still stand. Play the fucking game because all P4fags care about is complaining about lack of so-called "SoL" events.

>>375895578
You know you can just simply run the car around and don't have to fight shadows right ? Mementos would be a snorefest if not for those conversations. The Palaces are filled with traps and high-level security why would they even talk about soda and homework?

>>375895738
Reading your other posts, your taste is simply asinine.

>>375869474
>Gameplay
5>4>3
>Story
5>3>4
>Music
5>4>3
>Characters
4>5>3

>>375871705
seventh post best post
/thread

>>375869474
5s music was better than 3s even

>>375871907
I agree with this post

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I like P1 more than p4, P4 was a steaming piece of garbage.

Fight me motherfuckers.

Also.

P3 > P5 > P1 >P2ES > P2IS > P4

P2 is two garbage games with shitty gameplay while P1 is just a single piece of dumpster fire. P4 is an all around terrible experience.

>>375895862
>faggot who likes Heartbeat Heartbreak berates other people's taste

P3 is mostly shit, P4 is also mostly shit. P5 is better than both. Nocturne is a bit hit and miss.SMTIV is the best they've done in a long time. I said I liked the 90's style of BGMs because they were proper BGMs and not C-tier pop music thrown in to pander to normalfags.

>>375869474

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3

>Story
5 > 4 > 3

Music
5 = 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>3 (I really dont like P3's OST)

>>375896302
>look at me I'm so cool for playing video games and hating them

get a real hobby faggot

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>gameplay
5 > 4 > 3
>story
3 > 5 > 4
>music
5 > 3 > 4
>characters
5 > 4 > 3
overall
5 > 3 > 4

>>375896496
I only hate p4 and p2, p2's gameplay somehow made the gameplay in p1 worse. It felt longer and more tedious. p4 has the shittiest characters(yosuke is a shitty person and friend), most of the slinks are misses(saki's brother and school mom to name a few), the waifus are garbage(who thought chie was a good idea), the story is a mess(stupid kids and their dumb bear).

>>375896642
Looking at this thread is it worth going back and playing the other Persona games? I'm really enjoying 5 and don't want to go back and be disappointed.

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>>375869474
5>3>4 for music

too much SMT influence in the miniboss fights and last few dungeons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIZ1qoVmVhQ

>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3

>Story
3 = 4 = 5

>Music
5 > 3 > 4

>>375896779
If you find yourself immersed and like mementos then you'll like 4 at the very least. 3 in terms of gameplay is average at best, but storywise it's pretty top tier.

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>>375896779
I don't know, 5 is such a leap forward from the other games that it will be impossible to ignore

>>375895537
>SMTIV is the best OST they've done in years.
Not years but it's fantastic I agree.
>vapid knockoff C-tier j-pop
Not true considering that Persona 1-5 music is played at concerts and we'll regarded. The vast majority of music in 5 is dry and boring besides Meguro's usual goodness like battle and boss themes, the field themes in particular that aren't the renditions of Beneath the Mask
are generic. Its not the kind of songs that are going to leave a impression on you.

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>>375896779
Yes, the story, characters, and battle system/fusion all are around the same.

It's just the dungeons that will be a drag, but as you know you get those over with quickly like in P5. Try P3 since it's setting is more like P5's and the battles have some gimmicks like fusion spells and non party member control that makes it fresher and less safe than P4's.

>>375897004
>>375896917
>>375896954
Alright thanks guys.

>>375896779
play Catherine too if want a puzzle game with the setting/characters of P5, i think you can emulate it now.

>>375896006
>>Characters
>4>5>3
Confirmed for not understanding character development

>>375878250
this

>>375878250
New game plus

>>375875634
>4 and 5 are about equal in Dungeon themes

jesus christ

>>375897089
Some OSTs from Catherine were definitely P5-style, which is a pretty good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47nJMYO9j0 was top-tier

>>375877024
>Futaba with Haru's hair
Oh god please no. Everything but that.

It also makes Mkoto look old as fuck.
Ann is very nice with Futaba's hair though. It works well with her eye.

The only bad thing about P5 music to me is Beneath the Mask felt overused, there should have been new Tokyo music after the casino fight when you're dead and targeting Shido. Kept waiting for their to be a change in daily life music like in other Persona games.

>>375897645
yeah something like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir77O9E0PLk

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>>375898003
when Ann got a haircut in May and her portrait changed I could have sworn she would end up with long hair eventually

>Gameplay (combat/character control)
5 > 4 > 3

>Story
5 > 3 >> 4

>Music
3 = 5 > 4

>Characters
3 >> 5 > 4

>Level/World Design
5 >>> 4 >> 3

>Social Links/Confidants
5 > 4 >> 3

>Ending
3 > 5 >> 4

I like all of these games. Ratings for characters has nothing to do with which cast was more "likeable".

In NG+ do the items that unlock the confidant bonuses only take effect if you start the their s.link?

>>375898003
Pretty much everyone looks better with Futaba's hair style. Just another reason why long hair is superior to short hair.

>>375898202
yeah

>>375896996
I prefer even the more boring P5 BGM tracks that actually work as elevator music in that you can stop paying attention to it. But shitty pop music that gets stuck in your head when you don't want it is way worse. Also, I liked the more groovy, jazzy vibes of P5 much more than the j-pop, hip hop and more tweeny trash of P3 and P4.

>>375898205
Haru looks a bitweird because the result wowuld really look anime-style for some reason, but yeah.
I also hides her forehead.
>>375898124
I don't remember this at all

>>375899029
Before Yusuke's modeling gig, she trims her pigtail size in model and portrait

>>375898048
Catherine's music are perfect with a drink or two (just like the whole game)
I'd like more tracks like that or P5's in late persona but I'm affraid it would lost its touch after a while. It's probably better with just a few of them.

>>375899085
So something indeed changed when she asks about it, I didn't notice it atall, I thought it was some trolling from the guys.

>>375898804
OK. If you prefer elevator music that's on you. And every song in Persona 3/4 isn't a pop song, considering Memories of the City/School/Living with Determination exist and are the best field themes in the series. They're the most memorable of the whole OST.

I feel like P5's story was thematically the strongest, the problems is that the writing ends up falling apart late midgame/lategame, a symptom of having too many characters and not enough time to develop them AND move the plot along at the same time.

P4's story is the weakest of the three games, but I felt that it's writing had been much tighter than 5's. P5's pacing is just terrible, and the exposition dump after the first twist is just completely awful.

>>375899816
I think it's related toP5 being more "down-to-earth"; P3 and 4 were more about metaphysical themes, while P4 was about this too, but in a more "pragmatic" way. While it opens the door to a lot of possibilities and can be even more interesting than more metaphysical things, your expectations are very different. The end result being P5 having a VERY big potential, and using it well enough, but it still could have been much, much better. In a way it had more constrains than P3 and P4 except for the end where it almost goes the Izanami way, Not completely since it's still more plot-related, but almost.

>>375899816
I liked P5's ending, the stuff about people creating a palace made of Christian gods to rule over them was more tighter writing and was more related to the game's mechanics than Izanami just coming out of nowhere.