"Finalized designs" Literally why? You killed two

Wat. I don't even know what this game is, but are they serious? The bottom picture is going to be what's in the actual game?

>>375848279
Indivisible, and yes.

SJW shit, why do people here even care? The developers post on Neogaf for fucks sake, let this game fall on irrelevance.

>>375848393
You know, Skullgirls holds the record for most frames of animation in any fighting game ever made.

But you can't fucking see it unless you slow the game down to like 20%

Simpler designs are easier to animate. Also, since the camera is quite far away and not up-close, all the details of old designs would get lost (or even act as visual clutter).
But yeah, I like the older ones more.

>>375848159
they lose shading because its easier to animate

>>375848159
Animating the game in the top's quality would take forever and be extremely expensive. It's true they shouldn't have advertised it as using the above, but at the same time, you should try and understand the additional workload that comes with animating in that quality.

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>>375848159
>Remove detail
>Remove shading
>Add Puppycat

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>>375848159
>They got rid of Baozhai's dragon canon
>Instead they cut her dress and skirt, got rid of the harpoon and gave her a jetpack

WHY. I loved this design so much. What the hell L0.

>>375848159
>Gun guy became a nigger

Lmao. Let this shit flop and die like it deserves.

Source?

I don't think this is true

>>375848159
Top looks overdesigned as fuck.

Bottom looks cleaner and easier to understand at first glace.

Take it from me. I'm a character designer for Bethesda.

>>375848653
>I'm a character designer for Bethesda.
OH IT SHOWS

>>375848513
Quality of animation isnt the problem here guy, its the outright change to Baozhai and Vasqo.

>Baozhai has two jetpack canons now for no reason, has lost all the chinese dragon motif, in which her character was based on, and is now just a generic pirate lady

>Vasqo, who was a slick no nonsense southern gunman, is now an old black conquistador for no reason

Getting into my autism about character designs, you DONT take an angular character, make his design soft and round, and still try to keep the "hardened badass" stereotype for him. .It doesn't work.

>>375848653
What's it like hitting RANDOMIZE 3 or 4 times per character?

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>>375848653

>>375848639
Indivisible update #78, if you're a backer check your gmail.

>people backed this

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>Phoebes hair now looks like that purple thing from Steven universe

OH GOD KILL IT BEFORE IT INFECTS THE WHOLE CAST

>>375848159
the change to that arab warriors headgear is inexcusable, the green cap draping over his face is 10x cooler looking than what they have now

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>>375848159

So basically it went from
>we want the Fire Emblem audience
to
>we want the Steven Universe audience

What the fuck happened to Vasco? Why is he black now?

>>375848449
part of the reason I hate that game, too many frames made it so I couldn't tell if the character was hitting high mid or low.

>>375849595
have a (You). This has gotta be one of the dumbest redesigns ever, the guy on the right looks so cool and threatening compared to fireman nigger on the left.

Before it looks dogshit, after looks dogshit streamlined for making easer the life of animators, the only radical difference being the blacktarnishing of gunslinger Don Quijote.

>>375848159
The amazon girl looks better but everything else is worse.

>that butchered pirate girl
Fucking why?

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>>375848159
There were already like 3 dark skinned characters, why did they have to add another one AND change one of the most unique looking characters to be a generic black guy too?

>>375850103
>The only radical difference
And Baozhai's cannons
And The turban on Quaid
And The designs on Phobe.

>>375848159
Actually they look better. They match overall design etc.

>>375850195
Minor details, Gundon Quijote got a major revamp and a the WE treatment.

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I don't even care about the race card, Vasco pisses me off for several reasons:

1. Indivisible is all about different summons with different cultural backgrounds and histories that Anja can utilize, Well now you just got rid of your old west stereotype, and put in yet ANOTHER southern american conquistador type. We lack gunslingers and rangers, Vasco was a neccesary need for this balance in an RPG party.

2. Vasco is supposed to be "A fierce gunman" yet instead of keeping to this archetype, you round him off with simple soft shapes, and make him look like an old, friendly granfather morgan freeman. How the fuck is this supposed to be "A fierce gunman" compared to the hard edged (literally) style of the original?

>>375848159
The only one I'm pissed off about in general is the gun guy, they could have just kept his design, and simplify it, but they completly gimped him and made him look like a total wimp, not to mention that his weapon is the most retarded looking thing I've seen in a long time.

>>375848159
How do you want your animations, senpai?

Just fuck my shit up

Say no more

>>375850428
>Canon
>Minor

This is an RPG, Changing weapons on a character class is NOT minor, the single canon ahs already been shown in combat of how she fights, by replacing it with two mini canons, she now has to have an entirely different fighting style, and more of a support role than a combat role in-game.

>>375848159
Probably because they realized they won't be able to afford animating original designs so they settled for cheaper shit

>>375850000

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>>375850642
>Changing weapons on a character class is NOT minor

I'm talking about character designs.

>>375850712
As someone who love animating in his free time and would KILL for one of these jobs, thats outright bullshit.

If you can't animate something as simple as some of these quarter turns, or the attack animations, you obviously aren't fit for the job. Hire someone else, or hire a bigger staff to finish the product.

The details on the first bhaozai are so minimal, a few gold locks, a longer dress and an ornate canon. Big deal. It amazes me how much todays animators fucking complain about doing their work. Most of these kids barely picked up flash let alone traditional pencil and paper ith a lightboard.

Mariel does good work, but for fucks sake L0, give ehr a damn team to help with the work load. You want a product to sell, you put in the goddamn effort. Whats with everyone trying to cut corners these days?

>>375851060
Yes and guess what, the character design is an RPG class, who already has been animated, and put into the game. Now they're going back and re-doing already pre-done frames, JUST to change the weapons, which in turn, will ultimately effect the character and her fighting style, and role in the game.

Not rocket science dude.

>>375848159
Art AND designs look worse, fucking how?

What I'm really surprised is where they got their supposed 2 millions when no one just gives a shit about their youtube channel.

>Don't back a single thing on Kickstarter
>Never get scammed out of my money

Woah

>>375848159
the old designs for the last four characters were way better than the new ones. They must of gotten lazy.

>>375848159
I can't understand this.

>Draw a Man
>Add boobs curve and long hair
>Strong Wymin

>>375851780
She's an Amazon, it makes sense in this case.

>>375848159
>Pokémon post gen1.jpg

>>375851304
>who already has been animated
Yes and like i said minor details and not a total revamp. Intead of having an overdesigned gunport now it has two rectangles added with the line tool to make the animators life easier

>Now they're going back and re-doing already pre-done frames

Dont think they had a lot of them done, just what they needed to show some gameplay and keep the backers updated, otherwise they wouldnt have dropped them in favor of something simpler.

>which in turn, will ultimately effect the character and her fighting style

You know nothing was keeping them from having the old design fire the gun two times.

Phoebe's old design was way better. More interesting proportions

>>375851902
Even if she's an amazon, woman have a different bone structure and different curves. This is literally a man with breasts.

>>375852112
dude this game's main audience are dumbass indians and pinoys, they'll eat it up anyway

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>>375848159
I'm going to take a guess that they basically got rid of the semi-talented artist on the top for some incredibly petty reason (think the whole JonTron/YL fiasco but even more stupid and petty), and replaced them with a less-talented hack who attempted to recreate the same designs more or less with just enough "changes" to avoid outright plagiarism.

>top
Concept art for Cygames newest mobage pre-full lewdening and endless money funding an anime, manga, and regular game
>bottom
Scribbles on the wall of CN desperately looking for anything to fill timeslots.

Is the artist even the same girl? If so did someone break her hands?

>>375852112
Amazons are function characters who are much larger than normal humans and have no natural men in their ranks. Nature dictates they look like they do.

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Bottom is concept art you fucking mongs.

>>375852328
>function
Fictional.

>>375848159
>another kickstarter lied about the quality of their final product
oooooh nooooooo

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Here's a pic i made because I was mad.

Also keep in mind that I fucking suck at drawing guns.

Also I'm disappointed because I noticed that the old design had him carrying a mix of a revolver and a shot gun, my two favorite guns.

>>375852337
>Bottom is concept art

Yes, for the new designs. Indivisible update #78 JUST released these.

>Got rid of the sicknasty dragon cannon and the harpoon.
Gay.

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I knew he looked fmailliar...

>>375852253
If they hired an artist to design characters, and then fired him, any new artist that worked on those characters would not be plagiarizing. The art belongs to the company that paid to have it made.

>>375852253
This is a company product, the artist doesn't retain rights to the product at all, even if they themselves designed it.

>>375850501
No, the race bit is actually important here,. not even a /pol/fag:

1. His concept was a mix of cowboy and conquistador. Those are explictly colonial, imperalistic groups with european origins, and occupies a unique cultural niche in the game's cast

2. Him being black, in combination with the nobleman/posh new design, makes him too similar to antoine, who already has that role/concept

You know what? I hated them for doing the SJW shit, even could see it a mile away. I pissed and moaned about the game every time a thread popped up.

But secretly, I just wanted to be wrong. I wanted to be paranoid and judgemental, and actually not be right. These final versions, which are about a quarter as detailed as their own public demo, killed any semblance of hope.

The game won't be good. That's not even getting into the retardation over the cowboy. Curry Thunder's last stand here jesus fucking christ

>>375852804
Oh shit

>>375849595
>bayonet is 3 times the length of the pistol
It just looks awkward as hell.

That girl in the tiger skin looks like life is really getting her down.

>>375849595
>>375848159

>That Bayonet

As someone who does colonial ren-faire as a living, I can safely say Bayonet's are nowhere near that long, nor would they serve any purpose on the end of a pistol, over a british musket.

This entire design is stupid.

can someone explain whats wrong with this designs?
not trying to bait it just I have no concept of character design

>>375853582
>, nor would they serve any purpose on the end of a pistol, over a british musket.

There were pistols with bayonets though, historically. They weren't common, but they existed

>>375853281
Hold your horses there pal. I hate to break it to you but you're wrong about the cowboy. Most cowboys were Dutch, German, Irish, Black, or Mexican. Hence why all the towns in the west are named that way.

You're mistaking the United States Union Cavalry for guys that just went on cattle drives because you still have the Hollywood and tobacco company image of the "cowboy" in your head.

>concept art is different from ingame art
Wow, this never happens on game, like never, what a shit game

>>375853769
Yes, but not 3 foot long ones. They were short enough to jsut extend past the barrel and had practical application. .

>>375853803
(you)

Problem is it isnt concept art, its new concepts after existing art has already been made, animated, and placed in the finalized product.

Someone higher up complained about the designs, and now everything is getting re-done which is A. Extending the dev time of the game for stupid shit, B. Replacing good designs with piss poor ones all because some suit said so.

>>375853582
>As someone who does colonial ren-faire as a living
>t. Lindy Beige

>>375854012
>Lindy beige

Who? I work up in Los angeles and have never heard of this guy or girl.

Or are you memeing me with some youtuber thing I don't know about?

>>375853978
>its new concepts after existing art has already been made, animated, and placed in the finalized product.
Source on that?

Also, characters change all the time during development, it's normal as fuck, get any concept artbook for a game and you'll see a lot of ideas for designs that are never used. But who cares? /v/ will make a shitstorm out of anything, even normal shit that happens in literally every game development process.

>>375854283
>Source on that

Uhh... the backer demo that has been out for 4 months? Get with the program.

>>375854129
You already meme'd yourself by thinking your knowledge has anything to do with mid 19th century revolvers.

>>375854339
No lol I need to shitpost, don't blow my cover.

>>375853281
>cowboys are explicitly European in origin

Cowboys came from a variety of racial backgrounds, anon. The lack of discrimination in the frontier compared to other parts of the country definitely appealed to black freedmen and Native Americans

>>375854129
It's an internet """"""""""""""historian""""""""""""""""" who's knowledge of history and weapons comes entirely from larping

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>>375853803
>concept art is impossible to translate 1/1 to a game

I do believe the problem here is that the original concept was overly designed are now being simpliffied but people were promised the overly designed garbage.

More shit for me to poke fun at though, so it's all well.

>>375854468
That sounds awful. No I entertain children by teaching them how the british gutted out colonists and decapitated them with tomahawks. As well as send them into mock battle to kill each other with toy muskets.

>>375849595
is he holding a gun-rapier now?
was this an attempt to make a gunblade?

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>>375853582
>stupid
rule of tacticool.

>>375848159
>Literally why? You killed two of the most awesome designs for this shit?
>kicKastarter

its your own fault paying for this

>>375855129
that looks impractical
how is that cool?

>>375855129
>Bullet hits blade
>Ricochets and hits your buddy

Smart.

>>375852804
thing is, this dude isnt a twig like this redesign

>>375848159
As an animator I can tell you for sure that you could ''simplify'' the old designs without it needing such drastic changes.
Like for example the new Vasco now has even bigger cloth flaps to deal with. That's not very efficient.
Or his new curlier beard now needing more accuracy attention, as opposed to the sharp clear shapes of the original.

Just remove a line or two from his feet, reduce the detail on the ammunition belt (heck or just remove it all together) and sleeve fringe ,
remove a fauld row round the waist etc. the core of the design can still remain.
No idea why they felt the need to completely redesign him, as it is just a worse iteration all things considered.

Also a note on the pirate lady, I assume the single cannon poses a problem if she was to face the opposite way, blocks her head out completely.
Now if you want to keep a single big cannon like that as opposed to two interchangeable smaller ones, you could try something like keeping the cannon
mounted on the back vertically and it goes into the clear shoulder position when she's about to attack, or make her switch them out as part of turning animation etc. The two new cannons just add unnecessary bulk on the back, and the overall design loses the characteristic Chinese aesthetic.

You can also remove a ton of unnecessary detail from Qadira's clothes without fucking up the green wrap around her face, new head clothing is just bleh,
also has a bunch of random lines on top now which is not really helping them for ''easier animating''.
I mean they obviously managed to pull it off with the amazonian in terms of simply detail removal, so what happened?

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>>375855235
it isn't, that's the entire point newfag

>redesigned to be simpler
source?

https://labzerogames.com/indivisible-5-3-2017-update-vasco-model-sheet/
says nothing simpler

Is this a Steven universe brawler?

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>>375855129
Similar design actually existed.
They were considered shit because either the gun wouldn't fire straight or the blade would be too brittle.

>>375848159

man if I was an investor Id be pissed

>>375850000
> quads

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>>375853582
>This entire design is stupid.

Technology isnt a stranger to evolutionary ends.

>>375849595
This is the redesign that annoys me the most.All others I can see as changing the design to make it easier to animate, but this is just totally different character.

>>375848159
Holy shit, this should flop

>>375848159
Wasn't excited for this at all but man they really botched the turban guy, the pirate, and the gunman.

>>375856557

And the warrior chick. and the archer and the tiger and the pirate

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I love how people think the character designs will sell the game

Valkyrie profile has the most boring generic knight characters in existence, and it sold purely because of tis gameplay. Indivisible will do the same seeing at its literally a VP clone.

>>375849961
You wouldn't be able to tell anyway. Try gitting gudder.

No matter what they do, I will be forever grateful to them for redpilling me on fighting game genre. To think about it, I could have wasted my time on it instead of playing the skullgirls tutorial which explained me in detail how the entire genre is for complete losers with no life whatsoever.

>>375856730
This, Skullgirls has the ebst fightan game tutorial ever made. Its about time someone actually helped instead of the "Git gud" treatment

>>375856717

Post id then.

>>375856683

VP was a mediocre cult success at best and it actually LOOKED nice.

This is an ugly tumblr knock off

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>>375854470
god. metal slug has some awesome tank designs

>>375856683
VP also worked thanks to tone and story of the game, which was the reason game was cohesive despite having such wild mesh of characters, many of them were very disposable.
While I hope Indivisible will be good, I doubt they can really replicate that feel.

>>375856557
They ran search for "2D contractors", and ended up changing designs because that's what they can actually afford with their shitty budget.

>>375856683
>>375856897
>>375856942
>VP character design
Reminder that the people doing Indivisible's anime opening has VP's character designer in it

>>375856835
did you read all of the post you replied to?

>>375848159
The black dude is pretty hot desu

"WE WANT THE TUMBLR AUDIENCE"

>>375857226
>only black people can be tall
I don't think SJWs would be okay with taht

>>375857334
educate yourself

>>375855235
>impracticality
>in videogames
WOOOOOW bet you're gonna complain about massive cow titties too

>>375848945
Can anyone post a copy of this email? I still can't believe it.

>>375857023
Well, at least the intro will be animated well.
https://sakugabooru.com/post?tags=yoh_yoshinari+

>>375856683
Didn't that game have a waifubait Hector-type with huge breasts?

Took a whack at it. He just doesn't scream conquistador

>>375848159
>thiccstrong greece girl is stronk now
fuck this crap

i regret paying money to this shit

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>>375857607

>>375857620
Her design was hated by /v/ back when that was common.

>>375857693
10/10

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>People complain about this
>It's not because it looks garbo and cheap it's because they made one of the characters black

you know it's coming

At least make him mexican or something, black? Since fucking when did black cowboys are a thing?

Also the worst offender of them all
>remove the tiger head cannon from pirate girl
0/10

>>375858161
>Since fucking when did black cowboys are a thing?
Black cowboys were always a thing Mr. Bad-Grammar.

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I like the weapon change

I wonder if he'll dual wield the rapier with his some of his attacks because that'll would be cool

>>375858161
>Since fucking when did black cowboys are a thing?

Bass Reeves

>>375857918
>>375858161
Too smooth for a coincidence

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>>375857918
>the devs use the "It's just racists complaining" meme to shield themselves from all criticism because of that.
>No one can legitimately complain from this point on

>>375848159
Oh hey, I can actually jerk it to Phoebe's design now.

>>375848159
so glad i didn't back this

>>375858161
>Since fucking when did black cowboys are a thing?
Since always.
He still looks super fucking lame.

>>375857693
okay i guess

a little "moses the black" would make the design forgivable

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>>375858406
>>375857918
>Made the one character black

Out of the 8 something ones already?

>>375848653
>Guilty Gear
>overdesigned
>not a best seller
>Mass Effect Androgynous
>cleaner
>somehow a best seller
Oh shit, autismo's onto something

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>>375848159
Mongoloids like you OP can't understand clear drawings for making animations

>>375854409
>lack of discrimination
You're funny anon. There sure is a lack of discrimination when it comes to cheap and expendable labor. I'm sure the Irish were glad nobody shied away from hiring them to clear out malaria-infested swampland.

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>>375848159
>watching gameplay for the first time
>amazing platformer
>the combat must be amazing too
>mfw it's turn based

>>375858668
Did they fire their original artist? Cause it looks like they hired some random dude on the internet by asking him "can you draw?".

>>375849595
Are you niggers positive that that's a redesign and not a totally different character?

>>375858668
>Narssus
>Kaldi
>Antoine

What are the other 5?

>>375858889
it's the HuniePop effect

>>375858906
>Gun user with a silly hat and jacket

>>375856054
Honestly this one is even more agregious despite looking less silly

>>375858906
https://twitter.com/IndivisibleRPG?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Today's #IndivisibleRPG update highlights Vasco's design changes and final model sheet! https://labzerogames.com/indivisible-5-3-2017-update-vasco-model-sheet/ …

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>>375858668
>naga rider

>>375858847
>watching gameplay

>>375848159
We are about to live in an era where a fucking prototype of a game is better than the finished product in every way

>>375859113
>the game is not out yet

>>375859113
>Of a game that isnt out

Yes, good job anon.

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tfw you didn't fall for the shilling

>>375859113
>>375859237
>>375859296

There is a playable prototype of the game you retards

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>>375848159
Chrono Cross syndrome

>>375859137
>bottom is the full finished product
it's line up art

>>375859237
>>375859296
there's a free prototype you can get for free on steam and the kickstarter page

>>375859113
Yeah how dare he make an opinion for himself, he should just browse /v/ to see what we think and then parrot it back.

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>>375859353
>tfw you didn't fall for the shilling
>senran kagura

>>375848159
>we want the Steven universe audience

>>375859574
t. upset backer

>>375848159
Neofag gets so goddamned triggered by white males that they had to remove the only one they had. The funny thing is they still wanted the cast to look appealing to potential buyers, so no one in the cast looks like a nigger either, just different shades of brown from Arabs to Indians to SE Asians. The gunman looks like an Indian guru cosplaying as an anime character. They even slipped in an Aryan warrior with green eyes, but it's ok since he's covered in "exotic" clothes.

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>demo came out 3 years ago
>113 reviews (approx 5000 players)
>2 million budget
Lol good thing they already got the money so who cares about sales

>>375860068
t. yurishill

>>375848159
>JUST Steven Universe my shit up

>>375860234
the steam version came out way after most people already tried out the kickstarter version

>>375860068
having spent money is a good reason to be upset though

>>375848159
fucking kek
i am so glad this game was funded, just for it to shit itself.
thank you suckers and poor fools for funding this kickstarter

>>375860514
it's still fucking disaster
video game industry is about making fads, really, and if you lost that much momentum it means you'll start from scratch except your fad is not so fresh anymore

>>375858406
This is exactly how it is going to go.

>>375860713
small indie companies don't have enough money to have overwatch tier marketing

This is going to sound /co/mblr, but I must say it.
It looks like fucking Steven Universe. Straight up copying the style.

>>375860839
For 2 million dorraridos they could have made a mobile game which would actually make money for years instead of blowing it on dead genre which they don't have clue how it worked anyway

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>>375848159
Well you can say

>>375848159
>top is detailed, stylish, pseudo-anime art
>bottom is low effort cartoonish tumblr garbage

What the fuck happened?

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>>375860921
bottom isn't in-game art
it's just body/height reference art which steven universe has none of amusingly

>>375857425
Did yoy actually think someone would go out of their way to create bottom? Fucking check yourself you idiot. Next youll praise it when you finally know its real

>>375858780
As he posts a detailed sprite

>>375859381
Yea and how much is that going to change too?

>>375861526
yes, games in development do that

The persian, the pirate, and the gunman look worse.

>>375861106
Top are detailed illustrations. Bottom are going to be in game sprites.

They look fine for the most part if they really need to be more simple and easy to animate, but I will miss Vasco's grit. Before he looked like a frontier conquistador and now he's a posh gun/swordsman.

>>375858668
I hope they just combined Vasco with Antoine because there's not enough room for two posh swordsmen and Antoine is pretty boring.

>>375848159
So the amazon is a tranny? No woman would have shoulders that wide or a waist like that.

>>375859075
i guess i'm the only one who hates when they rip off popular shit 1 for 1 instead of stopping at a reference

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Will they find ways to ruin their enemy designs too? They're the actual best part of this game.

>>375858668
Where the fuck are Yans arms?

>>375848159
Muscle archer is an improvement because she's no longer half amazon and half lardass. Everything else is worse.

>>375848159
The new gunslinger doesnt look like he will be easier to animate. He got all kinds of weird detail that will be way more annoying to animate.
The old one had a very simple but effective beard.
The new one has a weirdly overloaded beard.
Same for the hat.

>>375859075
Fag.

>>375848569
And yet they did nothing to fix her retarded ankles/feet.

>we want the steven universe audience

>>375862345
Oh look, its the same joke for the 5th time this thread.

Come up with something original.

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>>375862026
amazons are usually manly

>>375848159
I can understand ditching shading and complicated textures, but why did they make a bunch of the designs uglier for no reason?

>>375862396
>we want the CalArts audience
ye happy now?

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>game with multi-million dollar budget gets downgraded to doodle quality

This is too good.

>>375862480
bottom is body reference art, not in-game art
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indivisible-rpg-from-the-creators-of-skullgirls#/updates

stop posting without reading first please

Hahah, that sucks. What's this turd called anyways?

>>375848513
>It's true they shouldn't have advertised it as using the above
This alone is enough to kill any game.

Never EVER advertise falsely with better character designs than you actually plan on fucking delivering.

>>375862539
bottom is not in-game art

>>375848159
Fuck, that looks terrible. Any interest I had in this game is completely gone.

>>375862589
That doesn't address his actual question, just an irrelevant misconception.

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>>375848159
>white guy turns black
don't they have enough blacks already?

>>375862589
>Finally, here’s a lineup of all the finalized designs we’ve revealed so far!
>op pic.jpg
The fuck are you talking about, retard

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>>375849595
Looking at them side by side is really gross.

>>375862809
you're the retard here if you think that the line up art is finished in-game art

>>375862674
It's not like I don't believe you, but do you have something that explicitly says that? On their website it says these are the finalized designs. When you show off something finalized, people expect it to look final. It could technically mean that they're only trying to show the difference in the lineart and the base colors but it's beyond me why they wouldn't take an extra 10 minutes per character to show off a shaded version to the public to avoid confusion.

>>375863112
Dude, a finalized design is a finalized design. They didn't explicitly SAY it was in-game art.

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>Choose a type of RPG that died out for a reason for your gameplay style
>Make your main selling point "characters" rather than "gameplay"
>Throw character designs out rapid fire because you NEED people to actually give you money for your Indigo
>Even get a bunch of E-Celebs to advertise your game
>EVEN GET A BUNCH OF GUEST CHARACTERS FROM DIFFERENT GAMES
>Fucking LIMP your way to the money you needed AFTER an extension
>Now all you've got is the bare minimum budget you thought you needed, while having bloated your cast massively just to get people to give you money
>You're probably working out of San "PISS ALL YOUR MONEY AWAY" Francisco.

It was fucked from the start. They never should have asked for the extension. They should have realized the idea needed retooling and tried again later.

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>>375863112
You fatass dolt, everyone in this thread is bitching about the designs themselves, which are apparently FINALIZED.
Invest in a helium mask before posting again, please.

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>>375848159
Western art styles were a fucking mistake

>>375863449
>everyone in this thread is bitching about the designs themselves
there's too many idiots thinking they're removing the shading and texturing here because of OP's image

look through the thread

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>>375848159
Literally blackwashing

>>375863785
>the tall, money hungry gunman for hire shouldn't be black

he's a pimp now

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And surprise surprise, the /vg/ general just cannot stop sucking the dev dicks.
Not only they all look worse, but Vasco doesn't make any sense considering his character. /vg/ is loving it tho, just another proof of how much a fanbase degenerates when they depend on a general.

Steven Universe got away with it, why cant they?

inb4 Naga Rider gets a redesign

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>>375864137
Steven Universe is also a shitty cartoon that's fifteen minutes long that needs to go on hiatus for months after only three or four episodes get aired.

>>375848159
what the fuck happened to the amazonian's face? it looked way better before.

>>375849595
There's enough characters with flowing jackets, the other one stood out more with his triangle hat and shoulder pads too.

>>375863449
>>375863332
Do you people not know what a fucking reference sheet is? Do you not know how animating for Lab Zero games work? Clearly not, but fuck, at least attempt to have an idea of what you're talking about before you start posting "IT'S OVER, INDIVISIBLE IS FINISHED, KIKESTARTER SUPPORTERS BTFO"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApcSW6wUxUE
The images from the OP are what the animators are working from, there's no point in shading something like this because the shading is done separately thanks to dynamic lightning requiring it to have it's own layers ingame.
Indivisible staff posted it in case anyone wanted to use the design for fanart or whatever the fuck, you aren't looking at a frame of ingame animation, just what multiple people are working from.

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>>375848159
>western cowboy turns into easy pete

>>375855629
>Also a note on the pirate lady, I assume the single cannon poses a problem if she was to face the opposite way, blocks her head out completely.
It's not like it's going to have unmirrored sprites in the first place.

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>>375864764
Are they going to revert back to the old designs when they animate it?
No?
Then it's completely justified to hate on the new FINALIZED DESIGNS, regardless of how many fucking shadows they're going to draw in the fished product.
I don't know what kind of retarded distinction you think you're making. Go back to your general if you want to yell at strawmen all day.

>>375863332
they didn't make the OP image

>>375864764
>He thinks references are going to change the black conquistadora

Get bent.

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>>375848159
Why did they change the art? Why did they change some of the characters race? Why the fuck are they trying this hard to ruin themselves?!

>>375862485
Steven Universe isn't designed by CalArts, and doesn't have anything particularly unique to it.

>>375865619
>they changed the art quality
stop posting without reading the thread first

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>>375848569
Full CGWS game when

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>>375861745
Yeah man, because we all remember the demo sprites being ultra-simplified garbage too.
Oh wait.

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What bothers me most about this is the lack of RPG color hero theory that goes into this.

No matter the RPG, Every character on a party always has one distinct color scheme associated with them the entire game, and no two characters share the same scheme.

Tales of:
Lloyd - Red
Colette - Yellow
Zelos - Pink
Genis - Blue
Kratos - Purple

Final fantasy:
Cecil - Blue
Rydia - Green
Rose - Pink
Kain - Purple
Yang - Red

Persona:
Yuki - blue
Yukari - Pink
Aegis - Yellow
Akihiko - Red
Ken - Orange

No matter the franchise, an RPG always has color specific characters, This game shits all over that concept by killing most of the color themes entirely, in favor of clusterfuck design choices.

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happy mgg will never get design change!

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>>375865948
>Thinking western devs can comprehend Japanese techniques

>>375865948
you're right but there's going to be palette swapping in this game

>>375863425
>San "PISS ALL YOUR MONEY AWAY" Francisco
I still have absolutely no idea why developers settle down and found their studios there.
That startup project that you so dearly wanted to find sponsors for? Yeah, you could have funded that project, by simply setting up shop just about ANYWHERE else.

Why do people flock to San Francisco? It's pretty much retarded to make it the center of operations for a business started from the ground up.

>>375849595
I actually prefer the guy on the left, the guy on the right does absolutely nothing for me. I hope they give him a British accent to round him off.

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>>375865835

never ;_;

>>375865835
It's gonna be released in episodes last I heard

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>>375865835
FUCKING SH-
>>375866383
Got a source for that claim?

>>375865948
That works fine in small parties but this's is going to be Suidoken and Valkyrie Profile where there are a large number of party members.

>>375863425
>Choose a type of RPG that died out for a reason for your gameplay style
>Make your main selling point "characters" rather than "gameplay"

>>375866246
Because CONNECTIONS

For people with no artistic integrity or vision, the necessity for connections is more important

>>375866268
If he had any accent it would be a Spanish one, since he's based off a Conquistador.

>>375865685
ok tumblr

>>375866603
as long as it's european spanish then that would work for me too

>>375862593
>this is enough to kill any game
>never EVER do what literally every single game has done and continues to do
>they are all dead
????????

>>375853582
Really?
the design is unrealistic, anon?

that's crazy!
the bayonette is too long on the cowboy-knight?

fucking wild

It's actually kinda offensive how they make any character related to spain or Portugal in any way automatically brown

>>375848547
Lighting and shading on concept art are pointless unless you're drawing a scenery.

>>375866857
>character related to spain or Portugal
he isn't though

>>375866857
>argentina is white!

>>375866857
t. Alberto Barbossa

>>375866591
That still doesn't quite answer why. Because for the majority of the would be "CONNECTIONS", they're simply just as stupid to be there as you would be for being there.
So why did they ever set up shot there to begin with?

And you can build connections through developer conventions and events and stuff. You don't actually need to set up shop in fucking sanfran.
For fucks sake. With the money you save from not settling down in sanfran, is money you could actually use to create a much more admirable portfolio or even finished products. Which would just increase your chances at actually forming worthwhile connections at the above mentioned conventions and events etc or wherever else you would have a chance to communicate with noteworthy people.

>>375849595
I prefer the left design. Are Americans mad they had their cowboy taken away?

The worst part about indivisible is that you're gonna have to see it in like every fucking humble bundle for years after the sales fall off after the first month when Kotaku/RPS/etc get done breathlessly shilling it.

It'll be the Bad Rats of bundle games.

>>375858847
It's ATB. So it's even worse

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>>375867219
keep dreaming

>>375859052
>All the disappointed comments

>Hear the concept
>YESSS
>Play the demo
>Precision guarding with under second reaction times
>Precision platforming to get to secrets
>Sjw designs
It's gonna bomb. It could have been fantastic but these fags can't design games for shit other than visually.

>>375865948
Are you seriously arguing that every piece of media ever created should use power rangers costume design?

>>375867508
>Precision guarding with under second reaction times
>Precision platforming to get to secrets
get good

why do shitty indie devs think asking tumblr to draw characters for them is good

>>375867545
Color theory has been a thing with character design since the fucking 30's dude.

Bugs - Grey
Daffy - Black
Gossamer - Red
Will E - Brown
Roadrunner- Rurple

Mickey - Red
Miney - Pink
Goofy - Green
Donald - Blue
Daisy - Purple

Popeye - Blue
Olive - Yellow
Bluto - Black

Tom - Blue
Jerry - Brown
Spike - Grey
Butch - Black

Need I go on to satiate you autism?

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>>375848159
>Pirate girl now has short hair

>>375868334
The real question is: why they ask your tupical sjw tumblr artist instead of the good tumblr artists which aren't into sjw drama?

>>375867931
No, fuck you.
It's an rpg, not a fighting game.
Dark souls is fucking cakewalk compared to the bullshit they are trying to pull here.

>>375862097
I also do but I don't hate the character for it, the fault is of the designer and the character is fine if only because it is ripping a foolproof idea.

>>375868373
First of all, stop calling it color theory, that's not what it is.
Second of all, just because some things use this trope does not necessarily mean that every single work of art needs to. Considering this game has like 30 characters you should be able to solve the riddle of why this scheme would not function in this case.

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>>375868462
>good tumblr artists

Thanks anon, I needed that laugh.

>>375868641
>Considering this game has like 30 characters you should be able to solve the riddle of why this scheme would not function

There are 16,000 Hexidecimal values of color. 30 is easily do-able

>>375868598
you probably don't know that characters being targeted for attacks flash red before enemy attacks

hopefully they emphasize that more in the final game

>>375866746
Games don't usually advertise with their concept art you fucking retard.

>>375868650
I could show you some examples but most of them are either furries or lewd (or both).

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>>375848159
>Thought it was a troll image with the before and after backwards
>It's real

Holy shit, what a blunder.

>>375869272
>comparing full illustrations to line-up art
>not a troll image

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>>375848159
We got an extra loli so I can't be mad.

>>375853281
i dont care about the race thing but may i ask why the fuck is the bayonet even necessary? arent like, half of the character melee fighters? do they really need another?

>>375856918
And they look just as good in the games too.

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>>375868838
No. It's not that, it's that the reaction time between that (which is the only tell in the game) is too short, as well as the lack of proper enemy attack windup.
And before you say "but you don't need to time it perfectly!" your meter goes to shit if you hold too long.

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>>375869574
riflemen have boring movesets

>>375869904
stop using the all block button

>>375870010
well you can try making them interesting nigga

>>375848159
The Vasco change fills me with rage.

I still hope the game is good, and I gave it money so that's a done deal, but fuck me do these changes seem shitty.

>>375865896
razmi should claw me to death
for science, obviously

>ruthless killer for money
>black

He probably goes after the not Ryuko just so he can pimp her and her mind hoes out

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>>375855790
>When we were reviewing Vasco’s design, we felt the character’s combination of Spanish conquistador and cowboy influences lacked cohesion

>>375856683
VP sold like shit and the game is shit.

>>375869064
>games don't advertise with their concepts
lol I genuinely cannot tell if you're joking anymore
are you retarded?

>>375858668
George is the only white male in the game now, he's highly problematic.
I hope he gets the BLACKED treatment soon.

>>375848159
>Pirate's redesign
"We want the Kancolle audience"

>>375864409
That's because CN is a bunch of retards who don't know ow to air any of there shows unless its Teen Titans Go.

>>375869570
>loli
Anon, I...

>>375860316
This.

>>375848513
Excuses.

>>375866136
It's not a japanese technique.

>the city of Lab Zero

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>>375871640
Yes?

>>375848513
>>375871964
bottom line up is body reference art and not full illustration/in-game art like the top

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>>375854339
>the backer demo that has been out for 4 months?
Are you from the future? Because the backer preview's not out yet, you complete retard.

>>375866658
What's the point of this?

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They added a loli. I find it hard to fault other decisions in the face of this.

>>375872256
do you mean what's the point of this board?

>>375872156
That's not a girl.

>>375866658
There's always that one person that acts reasonably.

Yeah. As long as they don't touch Nuna, I don't give a fuck what they do to everyone else.

>>375871043
>lacked cohesion
what did they mean by that?
fucking bullshit it looked excellent

>>375870106
That's just a random video taken from youtube to show timings, or do you think I actually have left the rptotoype installed for this many years?.

>>375868650
http://manuhamu.tumblr.com/

>>375872664
>no cowboy boots
>no conquistador hat or sleeves
>native american sleeves instead for reason

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>>375872510

>>375872962
>anime shit
>good

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>Cowboy is suddenly a nigger with a retarded musket pistol
>Thicc is gone and made into deedee from dexters lab
>Generic glasses loli

Ebin, sibly ebin

>>375872747
well it only takes like 5 seconds to download it

>>375848159
Bottom is better. Much more simple and looks cute.

>>375859237
The prototype's been out since day one, you dip.

>>375873180
How is that at all an argument in favor for it?
>I-it's simpler!
You are basically saying it is easier to make as if that is a good thing.

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>>375873046
>waah if I don't like the style it's automatically bad
http://ua2g.tumblr.com/archive

I'm starting to think Lab Zero has some hardcore fanboys that will defend any garbage they do.
Either that or Mike Shill posts here.

>>375848159
>get another backer update
>I never even check these, but check anyway today
>Vasco
Man, I let out a good "hoo boy" seeing that.

Do note that I'm a minority myself. I've never been a fan of this kind of thing though. Good lord. Ah, well, I honestly don't even care about most of these characters I just thought "oh man, they did something dumb here"

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>>375860979
>wanting mobileshit

>>375873057
>Generic glasses loli
That's a good thing, though. They should have made everyone into lolis.

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>>375860839
>model sheet
>Steven Universe
Pick one and ONLY one.

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>>375873391
>everything needs to overdesigned and fucking hard to make

>>375873561
Nope. I'm not particularly interested in Indivisible despite loving Skullgirls. I hope the game does well though since Ahad is my spirit animal.

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>>375873778
>model sheets

>>375873791
How is the top overdesigned at all? I never said it had to be hard to make.

>>375861106
>>375861745
>>375865896
>>375870887
Bottom image is from a model sheet not from a promotional illustration or ingame art. Why the fuck is this board filled with retards that don't know shit about anything?

>>375848547
haha

>>375873864
I can't tell if this is a legit base design by L0, or a nude mod edit by some anon on /v/.

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>>375873890
>You are basically saying it is easier to make as if that is a good thing.

>>375873984
Yes, being easier to make is not a good thing nor is it a bad thing.

>>375873968
It's official.

>>375874051
And nobody has made porn of it yet? Fucking shit /v/ get it together.