>Games then >"Human behavior is economic behavior.

jews and liberals

>>375832357
Sounds like Mises. Was the game written by Libertarians?

SMAC was shit nn mechanical level

>>375832357
Actually games used to be made for intelligent people back then.

Nowadays games are mainstream lowest common denominator fare.

Civ Alpha Centauri has a great campaign.

>You are the children of a dead planet, EarthDeirdre, and this death we do not comprehend. We shall take you in, but may we ask this question--will we too catch the planetdeath disease?

>>375832357
>can't murder planet consciousness and remove every worm, every fungus from the existence and terraform it into terra like
>Zaharov instead of purging everything becomes faggot who wants to be one with the planet
I'm still mad.
and I'm still mad at myself as a kid thinking that science/transcendent victory was good thing to happen

>>375832890
No. Morgan is just one of the ideological faction. And he allows free market only as far as it doesn't threaten his monopoly and ownership of everything,

>>375832357
>economic and technological might to conquer the stars
>scarcity is somehow still a thing

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>Games then
> If the Big Shell explodes, massive quantities of chlorinated chemicals used in killing marine bacteria will go up in flames along with the crude oil. If that happens, expect a large amount of harmful chemical substances, including dioxins, to be released into the atmosphere. Dioxins are common nomenclature for Polychlorinated Dibenzodioxin and Polychlorinated Dibenzofuran. They are organic chloride compounds that are highly acute and toxic, and are powerful chemicals that can cause cancer, genetic disorders, and birth defects. On top of that, they do not decompose easily nor dissolve in water, making it easy for them to accumulate within the bodies of living organisms. The environmental impact on the bay and coastal area ecosystem would be unfathomable. Environmental restoration would likely require several generations. That is why we cannot allow them to blow up the Big Shell. Raiden, you must disarm the C4.

>Games now
>Disarm that bomb


Jesus Christ. Talk about dumbing things down for a younger audience.

If only this game graphics aged well.

>>375833956
graphics are ok, problem is UI, UI is kinda shit to put it lightly.
2d games hardly age.

>>375833727
they didnt conquer shit
earth was fucked so the colony ship left for alpha centauri

>No matter what ya do,Planet still wins

How can humans/drones/ayys even compete?

>>375833956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lva8L-J8x04
FMV will never go out of style

>>375833727
Scarcity is a necessity for capitalism moron.

Can't have one without the other?

>>375833727
Even if you had the might to conquer stars, you still need to harvest resources and use them efficiently; they're not going to be unlimited just because you can go get them. Also imagine if there was some kind of blockade to resources, etc. Scarcity will never not be relevant.

>>375834368
>scarcity is artificial

>>375832357
>games then have a nigger as galactic representative
>/v/ flips their dicks off when Stellaris has the same

Really makes the grimgrimminy growl.

>>375834368
Even communism acknowledges scarcity. Trustafarian Pseudo Socialists are the only ones who don't

>>375833542
>I was wise as a kid but now I am either a HFY / WH40K faggot or a /pol/tard thinking Ascension is for cucks

>>375832646
People really don't want to hear this shit and will cry go back to /pol/ despite it being 100% true.

>>375835073
Basically this.

>>375832357
If only the AI in alpha centauri wasn't so damn incompetent, I would play this shit forever.

>>375835073
nah, I just dislike the idea of losing personality of an individual and becoming a just a part of bloody hivemind of a planet

>>375832357
>what went wrong
A lot, I don't even know where to begin with. This is one reason >>375833310

>>375832357
Back then, only nerds bought video games.

>>375835375
Individualism is overrated. I want to be a planet.

>>375836093
fucking greenpeace

>>375832890
Pretty much every ideology is represented in AC

>>375832357
I miss good Sid Meier games.

>>375836538
I still don't get how he managed to get this bad.

The lore and setting in Alpha Centauri was amazing, wonder if they will ever release anything like it again

>>375834748
He wasn't a nigger. If he was he would have been roided, young and looked like he was designed solely for the purpose of "positive representation".

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>>375832357
>The Ethics of Greed
You couldn't make him more of a boomer if you tried.

>>375836329
I dont see feminists or LGBT in SMAC.

Thank the gods.

>>375838336
He said ideologies, not brain damage.

>>375835271
It's far from perfect but better than any modern CIV AI

>>375838336
none of those are actually ideology

>>375836734
He is just not really personally involved with the new games.
Alpha Centauri is a good example on how much he wanted to make high quality games, hires writers and artists,ect...

>>375840324
Even the fucking amazing voice actors for the game had a hand in it.

>>375840324
>He is just not really personally involved with the new games.
wasn't he almost in full control of sid meier's starships? I recall various videos with him included before that trash was released

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How'd we go from this to this? The answer: fanboyism.

>>375832357
>Resources exist to be consumed, and consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seeks to deny us our birthright? None, I say! Let us take what is ours, chew, and eat our fill.
What did he mean by this?

Same path TV took.

Worst is finding the good shit is getting increasingly harder because too much garbage for the masses floods the market.

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>>375832357
It became a business. Companies make games solely to generate revenue, instead of making a game for the sake of making a game. Same thing happened to books, movies, and art.

>>375832357
>Games then
More like what happens when you get rid of Sid
We also know that when Id got rid of Carmack they made best FPS of recent years

>>375842026
>Same thing happened to books[...]and art
Not really, movies and games definitely, because they're big-budget monstrosities made to pull in as much bank as possible, but there are plenty of smaller publishing companies out there that publish books for all sorts of people, as well as smaller galleries that showcase all types of art.

Beyond Earth

>>375842026
It always was business. Holy fuck take off your nostalgia glasses. What games were made because before? Out of goodwill and butterflies in your stomach?
Just before it was for niche audience, now it isn't. That change led to overall simplifying of major franchises. (Or smaller franchises or games who wanted some of that delicious pie). Simple as that.

>>375832646
For different problems yes.

OP's predicament is moreso the fault of chasing easy-to-appeal masses and bloated developer/marketing teams, even since before the biased minority-quotas in hiring.

>>375842496
Books can be still a loveproject because it's still just takes one dude writing them and online-distribution as a ebook makes it even easier than before.

Games&Movies are fucked cause they are big budget productions, you can't afford it unless you reel in every tard you can.

>>375832357
Western games had to start pandering to a bigger audience, bigger demographics.

>>375843102
And small minorities.

>>375838336
Maybe everyone handed theirs to the Hive

>>375836538
Wasn't it a Brian Reynolds game really, with a Sid Meier's name for marketing?

>>375838604
>>375839405
So the regressive left isn't an ideology?

>>375833727
Human Desires are infinite.
Resources are finite.

Post Scarcity just means they haven't thought of what will be scarce after we solve this problem.

>>375842026
software has always been a business and there have always been trash books

where do you think the name "pulp fiction" came from?

>>375832357
I have no idea what you mean by this desu. Are you saying games used to have more meaning back in the day, because that's the opposite of true.

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This is happening everywhere nowadays isn't it!

>RPGs then
>"On the question of ignorance and malice, one must first ask: to what extent is ignorance willful? Is it not the case that we turn our heads precisely when we know the nature of what we would see if we hadn't?"
>RPGs now
>"They hate him cus he's a dwarf lollll."

'member the days when there'd be books to explain the lore behind a world instead of walls of text by npcs?

Reminder that there is literally nothing wrong with genejacks.

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>>375843404
>ideology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ

>>375843404
>So the regressive left isn't an ideology?

You are a part of the reason why modern games are as dumd as they are.
Easily swayed weakling who talks about subjects he is not educated in and parrots popular opinions around like a human repeater.

At least have the basic decency to look up what constitutes an ideology before smearing that shit over here next time.

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>>375833310
>Actually games used to be made for intelligent people back then

>>375846725
What is the name of this movie? I gotta watch it.

>>375848025
A perverts guide to ideology

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>>375848025

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>Politicians then
>"Man is and remains an animal.Here a beast of prey, there a housepet, but always an animal."
>Politicians now
>"HOPE AND CHANGE. YES WE CAN."

What went wrong?

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>>375846101
Took our jerbs!

>>375848680
(((Nothing at all.)))

>>375849273
They won't be laughing for long.

>>375847890
Yes.

Stuff like bioware being founded by 3 doctors, and game dropping to shit after they left in 2010

>>375850780
Bioware was shit long before 2010.

>>375836296
If you were a conscious planet, your life would be more relevant.

>>375832357
Having sophisticated writing is not something people buy a game for, it's something you encounter within a game you bought for other reasons.
Sophisticated writing became an vestigial aspect of games, especially as "show, don't tell" became the rule of thumb among competent developers.

>>375853963
You're right, if the plebs buy a game for writing at all, they buy it because it makes them feel stupid while giving them absolutely nothing to think about either.

>>375848847

Have you been nerve stapled lately?

>>375832357
Games now
>HATE NEWSPAPER

>>375832357
Don't act like SMAC wouldn't be regarded as a fucking SJW shill game by neo-/v/ if it came out today

Just look at the kotor 2 thread on /v/ right now. People in that thread (whether they are just baiting or not, that's how the mainstream audience that companies are going for see it), can't even understand simple stuff about the game because it's written above a 5th grade level. People want generic stuff that requires as little thought as possible.

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>>375856401
It would but it would still be a good game despite the reactionary /v/ shitting on it.

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>>375834290
GIT OFF MY LAND U PEACEKEEPING SONOVVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCB9yE9Hcc

>>375856401
>the Christian nutcase was right all along
It would be some WE memes at most

>>375832357
>Games then

You mean "computer games then." Computer games back in the day were made for adults and teenage nerds.

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>>375856960
>7 factions
>only 2 whites
>both female
You can bet your ass neo-/v/ would be shitting all over it.

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>>375856454
>Obsidian writing
>above 5th grade level

>>375857258
Isn't Zakharov Russian?

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>>375857464
He's Slavic.

>>375857258
Can anyone name a crew harder than this?

>>375834693
Some of it is. Why are companies still allowed to copyright digital books and games? Infinite supply at zero cost to distribute implies zero cost to buy.

>>375857575
>There is zero cost to creating something

Come on, man

>>375857575
Because whoever created that product used his resources and skilled, so its either create artificial scarcity by copyright laws or sell one copy of a song/game/book at 50,000 bucks and distribute it for free accross the world.

>>375857373
What games do you think have decent writing then?

>>375857575

>implying there are no overhead costs for digital distribution

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>Why do you insist that the human genetic code is "sacred" or "taboo"? It is a chemical process and nothing more. For that matter -we- are chemical processes and nothing more. If you deny yourself a useful tool simply because it reminds you uncomfortably of your mortality, you have uselessly and pointlessly crippled yourself.

>>375832357
>Games them
Made by hobbyists , just wanted to make something fun

>Games now
Made by businessmen, just want to make something that sells

it is that simple, OP

>>375858854
>Play as Yang with preferred Soc Engineering (Planned, Police State)
>End with all factions at war

>>375858854

Spoken like a true chinaman

>>375835375
>becoming a just a part of bloody hivemind of a planet
But Anon, you already are

>>375845471
>six-sided coin
wouldn't that just be a dice then?

>>375832357
is this space thomas sowell?

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>>375860243

No, because it would be relatively flat like a coin.

>>375860306
pretty much actually

I had a memorable campaign where as the UN Peacekeeping Forces I managed to rally all the other factions into a massive war against Deidre because the psychotic hippy was building planet busters.

Can't think of any other game where I could do something like that.

>>375860370
god bless this man

>>375833956
The biggest issue with playing older civ is going back from hex.

>>375856401
I doubt anyone would care about a bunch of nonwhites being based as fuck. The biggest problem with SJWs is the insanity they espouse, everything else is just a symptom.

See: Boondocks.

>>375850314
We won't, they will. They are exempt from any repercussions. Its their game, they rigged it.

>>375860353
That ones got eight sides though

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>>375861893

Nope, six sides.

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>>375832357
Made in Heaven happened

>>375861838
You're cute in your naivete

>>375860353
Isn't that an 8-sided coin?

>>375862085
Plus the front and back of the coin.
Those are sides too.

>>375863071
>Nope, they are faces

>>375856401
There would mostly be "Yang did nothing wrong" threads

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>>375862941

Each color represents a side. Count the colors. There are six.

>>375863071

Eh, on a relatively flat object I wouldn't bother counting the front and back as sides. If we wanted to get truly autistic about things like this we'd start talking about faces and edges instead of "sides", but in common parlance "sides" are meant to mean edges, not faces.