From a game design perspective, what separates a GOOD roguelike

I don't know but Binding of Isaac is shit

Image almost baited me until the last 3

>roguelite
Get out TB

>good
Plays like Rogue

>bad
Doesn't play like Rogue

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>>375790628

>>375790628
variety of contents that matters.
roguelike game is all about discovering new stuffs.
the more variety u have, the more fun it is.

>>375790628
Homer Simpson's brain isn't small though, there's just a crayon lodged in it

>>375790797
>Get out TB

Huh?

I like BoI a lot but I haven't really tried other Roguelikes/Roguelites, what does /v/ recommend?

>>375796127
enter the gungeon is great despite what redditors might tell you.

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For actual roguelikes you should try Cataclysm DDA. There's also Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup which is fantasy. Dwarf Fortress' adventure mode I think counts as roguelike too and I think is more complex than the other two I mentioned.

For roguelites you should definitely play FTL. Risk of Rain is pretty cool too.

>>375796221
I gave it a go once and found it really slow and grindy, should I give it another chance?

>>375796428
No, play Nuclear Throne instead. Fast and furious, straight to the point.

>>375796127
flint hook is real fun

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>>375796318
I love Stone Soup. It is a great place to start if you wanna start playing rougelikes. Pretty easy to understand and you can play it with a mouse.

Your biggest enemy in these games is always your own carelessness and hubris.

>>375796570
never heard of it

>>375796531

rami be gone

>>375796923
it's fairly new
http://store.steampowered.com/app/401710/Flinthook/

>>375796904
>i cast darkbolt

reminds me of that one picture of the octopus that found gold dragon armor on the second floor

hurts my soul

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>>375797042
Finding insane drops early is always a death-sentence...

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>>375796904
I stopped playing around the time they killed the Traps & Doors skill. Have they turned it into Brogue yet?

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>>375797472
Well they have kept on removing and changing stuff. Although they have added a bunch of new weird gods.

>>375790628
I never thought I would agree with one of these

>>375796127
Risk Of Rain is a lot of fun. It's what got me into the genre, has plenty of content to unlock and is very rewarding once you learn how to play it properly. Strafe is coming out in a couple of days, but right now that looks like it could go either way.
No matter what you do, don't play Nuclear Throne. I put almost 300 hours into it before I realized it was an RNG simulator, and it pains me that I'll never get that time back.

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>>375790628
RoR is the fucking fun

>>375797912
But you obviously had fun up until that point? So why would you regret it?

>>375798283
No, I was pushing myself thinking that I was the problem and trying to get better. Rolling ten dice and trying to predict the number each die will have isn't fun.

>>375798143
It's really really misleading to put it anywhere near games like Spelunky and Nuclear Throne though. Risk of Rain is Maplestory meets Diablo meets Musou. The levels are all nearly static.

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>>375798447
>Spending 300 hours trying to improve in a game when you are not enjoying it
You might as well work or something instead desu

>>375798491
They're all static. RoR could really benefit from a custom map editor/generator but I'm not even sure if the game is being worked on anymore considering the last update was years ago.