What went wrong? No, actually, what the fuck went wrong? The

it isn't good

>>375783780
>The game went from doing fine and getting praised
lmao from who

That's what happens when you overpower 3 characters out of the whole roster in a simplistic fighting game.

Too expensive
Too little content
Too buggy
Uplay
A roster of 12 fighters doesn't matter when everyone plays the top 3 most overpowered and unbalanced ones.

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>>375783780

Well looking on the steam reviews

The P2P

Its just that like almost every single review is complaining about the P2P its like "OMG THIS GAME IS AMAZING BUT THE CONNECTIONS POOPY"

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>>375784046

They do matter if you like how the fighter looks and think their animations are slick

>>375784207
I'll admit

Nobushi is graceful as fuck

>>375784073

>Roman Soldier
>A Calvary soldier since the mask
>No scutum


Really ubishit?

>>375784379
Well by the time they were using that mask they weren't using scutums anymore.

Plus it's not actually the Romans, it's a fictional civilisation based on the Romans

>>375784379
he also has a gladius and not a hasta or a spatha

>>375783780
>What went wrong?
Ubisoft.

>>375783780
People found a way to tryhard it and the devs don't know how to balance the game.

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>>375784379

>Wah Wah this game about Samurai vs knights vs vikings is not realistic

Holy fuck if there is one thing For Honor has shown me it is how realism faggots are the biggest cancer in gaming who think reading wikipedia for 2 hours gives them the knowledge to complain about this shit.

The games only 2 shield users are the most annoying to fight. Think of For Honor as 2 Swords Knight

>>375783780
Ubisoft doesn't understand how to support an online game let alone a community

>>375784638

Rainbow 6 Siege?

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>>375784510

The Centurion in For Honor has a gladius and Caestus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyZDOgztHB0

>>375783780

>Warden overpowered with no fix
>parry being over the top broken that negates all the combos and anything that isn't parry - > guard break - > side heavy
>nothing done to fix it

>>375783780
No way to go idle in game.

>>375784684
Isant that game dead too?

Terrible character balance
Slow patching process
Very unstable online

>>375784073
>Roman based design
>no iconic scutum
>boring mask
>that breastplate
I know the game is trying to make the armors look cool but come on even the most normalfag would rather have the meme lorica segmentata roman soldier with the shield and plume helmet than this abomination.

The game boils down to
>parry
>kill
or
>bait
>bait
>bait
>parry

>>375783780
Connections. It was highly positive in reviews on Steam up until they released a patch that fucked shit up for a lot of players.

Everyone saying it's because it's not good or it wasn't getting good reviews is a revisionist / retard.

>>375784829
nah the opposite happened the game got more popular after it came out Which was all on The Division being complete ass

I love the game more than anything I've played in a long time, but the connectivity issues are the worst I've ever experienced. I couldn't even play it at all the day I bought it because the servers were down.

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>>375784917
>>375784379

For the last fucking time shield users in for honor have the most boring gameplay

I dont get the merit to complain about this historical shit in a game like this

>>375785021
this

>>375785021
You can boil down most games to that.

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>>375783780

>All the knight retards in this game scream DEUS VULT and are crusade memers
>The knights in For Honor are polytheistic
>The only really they put crosses on their armor is becasue that was hold they were told to make them
>they forgot the fucking meaning behind half their shit

>>375784426
Wrong thread
There are 5 Nier threads to go to

They made the defensive options more effective than the offensive options, which is a surefire way to make sure everyone gets sick of your game once they stop being complete shit at it.

>>375783780
Shit balance, shit community, shit maps, makes the perfect storm.

The mechanics are fun as fuck, too bad everythi g else drains the fun from the game

>>375785216
So basically Modern Warfare 3?

Is it still possible to do the afk exploit?

I used to do it by myself in AI brawl mode after the other guy left so I never bothered anyone with it but I still got a warning email but that was a few weeks after I droped the game

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I actually still like the game

The defensive meta is annoying since I main kensei but hey what am I gonna do on PC? Play guilty Gear

hehe

HAHA

>friends complaining about lag

>i notice tons of games just disconnect

>also notice it says searching region: all and local when looking for a game to join

>mfw you can't just set it to local and wait a little to play with people who aren't on the other side of the world

How fucking dead can a console game be to have to play with people so far away and so laggy

>>375785148
Except in most games you can still be offensive. If you're offensive in FH you will die. The only offensive option is to feint. Except the warden. Who forces you to roll back or eat a 50/50. And people even complain about 50/50s in fighting games because they're not fun.

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>>375785373

>Guilty Gear


I have noticed the For Honor community is either Souls fags,Soul Calibur Fags, and oddly Guilty Gear fags

Actually, the game ran thin because it was a strategy game that hit meta-endgame pretty quickly.

It wasn't hard to figure out combos and how to effectively whittle down an opponent aside from "ledging". And that's why it was so short sighted. It got boring incredibly fast. Combat couldn't be switched up because it was already ever so stale. Everything else aside from the combat was a gimmick, including the game modes. Which only made it fall flat.

Chivalry had a similar demise, however I had a lot more fun playing Chivalry. before they started patching it, i'm talking right at release boys. this is when Chiv was at its finest

>>375783780
it's a fighting game so there's very very little to do but people don't see it as a fighting game

>>375785515

Expect most combos are parry bait

They gotta make the game more aggressive

>>375783780
>pay literally every streamer to play your game

Omg look at how popular our game is!!!!111

>stop paying people to play your game

Why is no one playing our gaem anymorrrr!!!!

>>375783780
Ubisoft. I mean come on man.

Three heroes take very little skill while also having by far the best kits in the game.
There is little to no balance in the game.

>>375785569
Well that was the thing, different characters had largely different playstyles. And while there are characters that had advantages over others, it wasn't hard to learn it and quickly find a way to maneuver. The meta-endgame was there through and through. It couldn't get "better" because it was what it was.

And truth to that, anon. There were many combos that would be obsolete entirely because of their ineffectiveness.

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>>375785712

Expect this guy

Hes the most respectable in the game

>>375785767

>people call all the samurai cancer and weeaboos
>probably are all weeaboos
>but almost all of the samurai heroes are just B tier
>Half the knight roster is considered top tier
>Scream DEUS VULT and shitpost everywhere

>>375785767
>tfw played kensei and lawbringer exclusively

i should start playing again. i dropped off mid-march to play other games but i always have a little bit of an itch. i feel like i've probably gotten a little rusty though

>>375785186
Not surprising since most of the Deus Vult fags arent even White...just look at /pol/


T.deus vult huefag

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>>375785767

Ken sama is the one good thing out of For honor

and maybe that new Centurion dude

>>375784073
This is a meme, and while P2P does not help, R6 is exponentially more popular and is based on similar network programming

The game isn't amazing at all. The idea of the game's combat system is novel, but executed poorly thanks to Ubisoft.

The game was broken within 1 week by people who reached the skill ceiling.
All you need to do is get good with the S tier characters who get guaranteed hits, and the rest becomes trivial.

Normally I don't have a problem with that, but you're not even using 50% of a character's moveset. That's at the fault of the devs.

>>375785931

>lawfaggot

Get the hell out of here Lawbringers are all cancer

>>375786173
since when. they were easily the weakest class at launch behind idiot valks

>>375786240

>I play a shitty class
>If I win agasint one of the OP classes they are bad
>if I lose agasint someone they should feel ashamed since I am a shit class

Also he got buffed

>>375786240
Lawbringer is still the worst class, he's not at level of shit he was before but he is still by far inferior to every other class.

>>375786313
I play him because he looks neat, not for any of those reasons. I like to live out my inner Holden Cross.

>>375786164

Everyone uses their moveset its that almost no one does the 1st couple combos (the combat combos like X+X+X or X+O+X)

>>375784379
>calvary

>>375786164

Load of shit

Ill admit people did get the game down in like 2 weeks but most heroes DO use their movesets like kensei or valkeryie

>>375783780
Its incredibly shallow depth wise and has a terrible terrible meta because of how easy it is to parry. It has hardly any content outside of the PVP aspect too so its purely a game made for it but it barely has more then a fucking Souls game does PVP wise.

99% of videos that pop up about it now are just LOLTROLLENVIRONMENTAL kills.

>>375785148
hahahhahaha fuck no. Most games are not two idiots swaying back and forth waiting for QTE level shit to appear for them to parry and do something. FH is a great example as to why parry mechanics always need to be high skill ceiling as fuck.

>>375785474
Funny. GG is offensive as fuck and offers a shit ton of variety in styles/characters and has alot more mechanics and alot more depth to said mechanics. I play GG and fucking dislike the hell out of FH and haven't met another GG fan who likes it.

>>375786851

>QTE

nigga what?

The older I get, the more writing on the wall I can see. This game screamed flavour of the month after a second of watching the gameplay and concept. Same thing with No Man's Sky. Eventually you have a taste of terrible purchases

>>375786957
>Flashing arrow telling you what direction a attack is coming from that constantly flashes and changes depending on action.

The guard system in FH is flat out a QTE in itself. Feinting is the only difference. If that stopped existing it would be completely just a QTE.

SURVIVED LONGER THAN EVOLVE AND BATTLEBORN BABY

FOR HONOR IS HERE TO STAY SEMI POPULATED KINDA

>>375787093

Try playing the game without them

Its honestly fucking hard and should be implemented permanently

>>375787124
For honor needs one more month before it's survived longer than Evolve

Source: I fucking pre-ordered Evolve

>>375787256
It would make PK the only playable class. Even with the markers she still comes out fast.

Had no content. Uplay.
Felt like an unfinished product.

>>375783780
P2P, superior third person melee games coming out, (Mordhau, Mirage, M&B 2) and what, the biggest a server could be was like 4v4? When Chivalry a 5 year old game had 32v32 and even more if the server could handle it. Game was doa

>>375787256
>lets make peacekeeper even stronger

Yeah no

>>375784379
Hi Metatron.

It's a hyped up nieche title, i am surprised it has a couple thousands regulars. The balancing is almost there but it needs more gamemodes and the gear System has to be reworked

>>375787093

You probably dont even play the game

that shit is needed all the people who say all this shit to "fix" the game dont play it and never will

>he game went from doing fine and getting praised to mostly negative reviews and dropping off in playercount hard
It released

Did they nerf Peacekeeper?

I quit because you can't play duels without everyone playing PK and Warden

>tfw just like Lawbringer because he looks fucking cool
>No memes, no ledges, no nothing
>Everybody else memed him into oblivion

>>375787361
>Mordhau, Mirage, M&B 2
>attack and movement are seperate
>good

>>375787620
like most of the knights

>>375787361
> superior third person melee games coming out, (Mordhau, Mirage, M&B 2)
Only 1 of those actually has 3rd person.

>>375787336

and it will since its does the thing evolve fucked up in

Free dlc

>>375783780
It's just shit. Too many fucking problems. Shitty p2p netplay, games drop all the time, terrible balancing, the combat is shallow and within a week everyone realized it's just parry wait parry.

Too many negatives and not enough positives. Game also has almost no content and Ubisoft is notorious for fucking up their online communities. Shit company desu.

>>375786654
Nah, anyone who has chain attacks that are 2/3 heavy attacks suffer big time e.g. Lawbringer.
Valk can use her full moveset rather effectively, but she isn't S-tier like warden or warlord.

At the skill ceiling it's just about using characters who have 2 or 3 guaranteed hits and waiting for the opponent to attack so you can get a parry then free hit.

I got bored of it within 2 weeks.

>>375787886


>lawfags

So how is Rainbow 6 siege still alive if ubisoft fucks shit up?

>>375788053
>implying I'm a lawfag.

Claiming you play anyone other than Warden, Kensei or conqueror gets you flak for ambiguous reasons.

Also that's not an argument.

Glaring balance issues that initially could have been fixed easily but they just sat there while the horrible community scared off large chunks of the community with rediculous peacekeepers with 3 hit kills from super revenge modes theybroke into within seconds.

Pricing was too high for what you got.

If it was 30-40 we would all be playing it.

>>375783780
every post is giving a different flaw, if that doesn't show you nothing will.

>>375788424

It kinda is on like keysites

>>375787835
This guy gets it.

It's not just about the p2p, the game is inherently flawed and plagued with issues that I don't think will be addressed, especially since it's Ubisoft.

>>375788640

All I know is that the game is gonna be made super aggressive in the future

>>375788697
>super aggressive
Explain?

>>375788779

I dont know exactly what they are gonna do but the devs said they have test version of the game that addresses the "defense meta" and apparently makes For Honor super aggressive people think its like more chip damage and harder parries.

It also makes Berserker super OP

>>375788918
thats pretty good if its legit the devs actually do shit then?

>>375788918
I wouldn't mind harder parries.
The slower unblockables are not even worth using since they are a free parry

>>375788345
This is one of the many reasons I hated the 4v4 modes.
>Grenade/Airstrke tier 3/4 perks
>Perks in general
>Buffs scattered throughout the map
>Environmentals everywhere

the list goes on.

>>375788998

The devs actually do shit they hold like streams every week and treat the PC version as a fucking beta test with patches we have had like 6 patches since launch and a bug DLC patch is coming in a week or two

Ubisoft is super shitty but the devs are not that bad maybe a little incompetent

>>375788918
>harder parries

I like this idea, but I doubt they'll be able to execute it well.

I enjoyed playing as assassin's creed lady for the short amount of time I had the game

>>375789140
Ubisoft is generally shit when they are paying full attention to a title but when the dev team are left to their own devices they tend to fix stuff.
Siege is a prime example, and so is the Division to a degree.

>>375789173
it can be

You know the deflect mechanic assassin have? There was a time when they could do it easily like parrying

>>375789140

Well anon if you like the game I guess you like it

>>375789472
Yeah, I love the deflect mechanic. Back in the Alpha it was too easy, but at launch I was happy with what they did with it.

What makes it not as viable as a parry, is it

>>375789638
oops scrap that last part

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This was like the 1st for honor thread I have ever seen on /v/ where both sides present their argument to why the game is shit and why the game is good in a meaningful and non shitposting manner

>>375789872

People either really like the game or hate it

Ubisoft games get dedicated followings

Honestly this game is perfect. It's the people who play it are the problem.
>people spam sb, lights, flicker, head butt, etc.
>people's connections are bad and cause disconnects
>people exploit bugs to their advantage
>people have salt
>people play the game in a way to piss other people off

I know you can probably say this with most games, but it's true none-the-les.

>games that are only multiplayer have no replay value or longevity
WOOOOWWWWW WHO KNEW???!

>>375790258

Singleplayer :^)


The games SP legit has some interesting lore they didnt expand on

I bought this game 3 days ago. Gonna play through it with my girlfriend and then get a refund. Dominion or what ever its called is the only interesting match and it's already wearing thin for me.

>>375790603

Dominions the worst mode

Elimination or brawl

>>375790603

To extend on what I said I could already imagine a "rush" mode where you capture waypoints on a larger map and the enemy gets pushed back with less and less tickets/infantry.

Or a capture the flag mode, protect the siege ram mode, assassinate the enemy leader (a player) mode... on and on.

Instead we have that dominion mode and then just variations of deathmatch.

>>375790603
>>375790809

Hell even a one hit kill hardcore mode so every strike is very calculated etc.

>>375790809

dude

the game is dead as it is we dont need 7 differnt game modes

look at titanfall 2

>>375783780
It was a flavor of the month. Everyone played it until the next big thing to play came around and everyone moved onto that.

I stopped playing because of Peace Keeper side light spam. Did they fix that? Was that a fake issue and I just needed to get gud?

>>375791239

Kinda do you play on console?

>>375786954
Maybe check out majors and regionals. There is a group of fighting game players who like FH and GG isn't as varied as you claim. It's a setup and pressure heavy game and always has been

>mfw I complained on the forums that the game awards defensiveness a lot more than being aggressive during one of the tests

>my post got ignored completely by everyone

Cool

Glad I saved 60 bucks.

>>375791293
I did, yeah. Is that a factor?

>>375783780
Good game but everything around it is bareley functional in typical ubisoft fashion.
Game randomly freezes, only has peer to peer which half the time doesnt work, Host migration is a thing and occasionally when that happens your enemy can pull a Za Warudo on you.

Anything else is just memes.
Realy its a niche fighting game with a strange control input.
Balance isnt great but the last patch helped a ton.
Lawbringer is still a strictly worse Warlord but its also a strictly more fun to play Warlord.
Maybe if they eventually manage to rework Conqueror to a point where hes got more than one viable move he can go somewhere too.

New Characters appear to be pretty non jewish by ubisoft standards, originally they were shown as DLC but you can buy em with ingame shekels and are fairly cheap at that aswell.

>>375791419

30 FPS makes peacekeeper impossible to react too

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>>375787713
Mordhau will have third person too, retard.

>>375783780
I read once, many people tought it's gonna be an easy game, not one with a "realistic" fighting system

>>375786954

Man I love GG but For Honor is really fun sometimes

We are both dead fighting games on PC so it does not differ to me

>>375791451
Interesting. I actually played the beta on PC and generally remember having a better time, but a few of my normie friends decided to get it on PS4 so I went with that.

Maybe I'll give it a try again if it gets discounted on a Steam sale. I had more issues with it than just that, but that was a big point of frustration for me.

>>375786313
So you are insecure about Lawbringers? Great to hear.
I love it when people get mad to lose against a bad class.
Lawbringer got buffed tho, hes not great now, but he functions and actually can force enemies to be agressive now.
the days when he was countered by not doing anything are over.

>>375787093
>timing is QTEs

are you retarded?

>>375787620
Hes been a meme class for a while. For what its worth people hate him for that reason, still get mad when they lose to you tho so its alright.

>>375787361
quite frankly none of these games do their presentation right.
If any of the upcoming games does so its Kingdome come deliverance.

Mordhau is what happens when you take people that watched "This is what medieval combat was ACTCHUALLY like" meme videos on youtube and let them make a game.
Its a masturbatory "realism" expirience while looking like a floaty mess.
I dont even hate it but the idea that its somehow a great game by default is stupid.
It look s a lot like War of the Roses to me and itll have to prove that its not a floaty spammy mess.
>>375788180
Its just the old Lawbringer meme circlejerk beeing upset that he got buffed for once.

>>375789952
Yeah, it reminds of Siege in a lot of ways. I never played past the beta but the core game seems great. It's a shame they have to use such shitty business models on a full priced game.

>Unbalanced
>No dedicated servers
>Network errors fucking everywhere
>No variety in modes
>More sitting in matchmaking than playing the game
And recently they introduced off-season that lasts three weeks, meaning the faction war is meaningless now and we need to wait for new map and classes. I understand they need time working on the classes but if they weren't shit in their job, these new classes would've been balanced and tested beforehand and the season 2 could've started immediately.

>>375791239
It's still there. They nerfed PK's zone attack and some other changes were done as well but she is still OP light spam class.

Devs have said that they don't want to nerf her speed but they are looking into other solutions preventing light spam, whatever the fuck those might be.

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>>375786084
>Honor
>Desu Vult

>>375785474
You that fella from the general, right? You said the exact same thing about 3 threads ago