So this game is supposed to be a spiritual successor to Generations

They hate it now for some reason, I thought they loved it but I have been hearing people shit talk it lately, so eh. I like it.

I liked Generations but i don't necessarily want to relive the past with every Sonic game from now on so i'm not exactly glad about Classic and Green Hill returning, all i wanted was a pure 3D game after Generations finally perfected the formula

>>375781636
>They hate it now for some reason
You are a moron.

>>375781941
From information about Forces it seems that Green Hill will be the only returning stage serving as an intro stage to the game. Hopefully that statement is true and the entire game is just a new experience.

I'm waiting for E3 to see the full Modern Sonic stage as well as seeing what the 3rd playstyle is.

It's a sequel in everything except name.

Personally not looking forward to it myself, as there's really no need for Classic Sonic to show up again (even with the game starting development before Mania) and the third playstyle will probably end up being as awkward as the Werehog.

>>375783039
I never really expected other stages aside from Green Hill showing up, but at the same time you can tell they're trying to cause the same impact of "Oh look it's the Sonic i remember in the zone that i remember" that Generations caused to a lot of people, Sonic's been banking on nostalgia pretty much non-stop ever since Sonic 4 and i'm really tired of it
On a side note i am glad the story is taking itself a little bit more seriously this time around, the light-hearted saturday cartoon shit they've been doing since Colors really didn't work for me and kinda killed any sense of progression through the adventure

>>375783763
It is refreshing to have a serious story again but I hope they don't go too far into serious territory like Sonic 06 and Shadow did. If the story is closer to the tone of the Adventure games then i'd be satisfied with that. They were serious stories but they didn't dive too deep into the serious side.

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I'm infinitely more optimistic for Mania, but more hyped for Forks.

Whats disappointing about Forks is it doesn't look very updated from Unleashed, Colors, or Generations. It looks like the same thing again. And I love boost gameplay as much as the next guy but cmon son, there's still room for growth that they're straight avoiding.

Classic Sonic looks like shit though, so the only other thing I'm looking forward to is the TBA Adventure gameplay for the "new" character.

>>375779974
Generations sucked

To little content, terrible story, classic sonic levels were awful, and presentation was weak as shit for what was supposed to be a big game.

>>375784867
I can't shake this feeling that the 3rd gameplay will be a slow paced collectathon

>>375785065
I can only hope it will be that good

The werehog levels were fun and a great counterbalance to lol gatta go fast sanic

>>375779974
Generations was an alright game, but it still didn't fix the problems that Sonic has had for almost 20 years.

The 3D gameplay was definitely an improvement, but it still fell flat and was objectively inferior to the classic levels in Generations.

Sonic Forces looks like absolute garbage though. Sonic doesn't seem to move right and the game's art direction is all over the place.

>>375784867
my Hopes for Forces' 3rd style is a non-boost 3D platformer like games before Unleashed.

>>375779974
In the 2D sections, Sonic looks very stiff. What's going on here?

I feel like Sonic would benefit from being able to bop on enemies like DK or Mario. It'd help preserve the momentum of the game.

>>375785542
The thing is Sonic does bounce off of enemies, but you have to hit them from the top. Plus the person playing the demo didn't really look that good since they kept stopping before doing anything.

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Sonic Forces will suck. From the gameplay video you can tell it's a generations clone with shit gradual turning; you are not fully in control of sonic and there will be no 3d platforming like heroes/adventure.

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>>375784025
>They were serious stories but they didn't dive too deep into the serious side.
GUN Killing Maria, Gerald Robotnik, and the Ark Laser say hi.

>>375785671
Heroes and SA2 are terrible games.

>>375785812
In regards of the ARK Laser you gotta look at the two times it was used

SA2: Blasted a piece of the moon to show the power Eggman had

Shadow: Destroyed the white house and majority of DC to destabilize the world and press onward with the invasion.

The dip to the serious side all depends on how you use the laser.

>>375785903
defend this, fuckface.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2XhWSvjMo

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>make a 2d game with a few seconds of 3d per level
>call it a 3d game
I don't dislike the boost gameplay but if they're going to keep doing this then I don't want it anymore.

>>375786048
What is there to defend? It allows for fluid and fast gameplay.

SA's turning leaves the movement clunkly and glitchy. It's not fluid at all.

>>375786101
Unleashed was the last 3D Sonic game. You still haven't caught on that they pretty much only make 2D games now?

>>375779974
What did /v/ think of Generations?
I was very hyped since it was announced and it lived up to it mostly because I set it up to be a fun nostalgia fest, which it was. The only thing that sucked was the final boss.

>>375786251
I'm pointing it out so clearly I have caught on.

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>>375779974
It was a step in the right direction, maybe we might find the actual formula for Sonic in 3D, and we can finally move on from the disaster that was Sonic Adventure

>The only worthwhile playstyle is the first one you play and its short as fuck
>It only covers a part of the story
>Everything else is fucking awful and retarded
>You're forced to play it to get the full story
>Shitty chao minigame that just fills space

Holy shit, i never dropped a franchise so fast

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I'm waiting for them to reveal the mystery character

>>375786325
Right. Well, you know where the door is if you are done with all the """3D""" 2D games they've been shitting out since 2010.

>>375785812
I unironically liked Shadow because of the serious tone that game had.

Gameplay was hot garbage but still

Too many city levels.

>>375785812
TERIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>375786227
I submitted proof of the opposite of what you just claimed. SA2 does it right, boostshit feels clunky and glitchy. not fluid at all.

>>375786516
Yes, it feels clunky if you're being a fucking AUTIST and trying to maneuver around the stage at low speed.

If you're playing the game as it SHOULD be played and running fast, then Generations is much more fluid whilst Adventure is a slow, clunkly and glitchy mess of a game.

inb4
>muh exploration

Generations still manages to have much more different paths in its stages than the Adventure games do even with its faster pace.

I think Lost World had the right idea in terms of gameplay but the level design was just so bland. It kills me knowing they'll never go back to that and try again with better level design.

>>375785812
People die and there's a super weapon, is that supposed to traumatize childrens somehow? Star Wars showed people getting strangled and an actual planet getting destroyed by a laser yet every kid loved it

>>375779974
I liked generations for what it was even the 3d sonic stages were ok and i've always hated 3d sonic games

>>375786687
Fuck no

Lost World was a mess in every department, you name it

Terrible story
Terrible graphics and art
Terrible music
The worst Sonic has ever felt, movement wise
Terrible levels

That game was an abortion shat out for Wii U children who shit their diapers when they see something that looks like Mario.

I have absolutely no feelings towards Forces

It's weird. I was hyped as fuck for Generations, even excited for Lost World (even if it didn't turn out hot), and was extremely pessimistic about Boom

But Forces doesn't do anything for me. It just so incredibly underwhelming that I can't even be assed to dislike it. It looks like Generations 2, without any of the excitement the first had, with a played out a gimmick and a potential (most likely) shitty 2nd gimmick thrown on top

The visuals are average, the theme doesn't do it for me, and the music we've heard is forgettable

>>375786605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvdITWJo9Q

How is this clunky and slow? It moves like butter.

>>375779974
yea and it looks awful, 4 years and they cant even get 2d gameplay right but they cant get 3d right so i shouldn't be surprised

>>375786605
>classic autist move, capitalizing random words
Pathetic.

>>375786605
& Also, you can do so many cool & precise physics tricks with spindash/rebound that you could never do in a boostshit game. All you do is hold forward and boost, jump once or twice and done.

>>375786920

>The way sonic clings to walls
>That weird jittering when going down half pipes
>Those almost 2006 tier broken physics that allow you to run up 90 degree angles

Yeah no

>>375786920
Are you serious? Sonic moves so fucking awkwardly around the stage, doing sharp and quick turns that aren't believable in the slightest. Also, it's pretty misleading to choose a speedrun, which does not represent the average player and you're deliberately shortening the amount of time we see Sonic running. The average player will have trouble with how Sonic moves in the Adventure games because he's terrible to control.

Meanwhile Generations has much more smooth and fluid transitions between Sonic's different and more varied movements and animations allowing for much faster and more entertaining gameplay.

i hAVE jUST lOST aLL hOPE aBOUT iT

>>375787116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYLacJm40z8

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>>375787116
>>375787170
I'm saying you are fully in control of sonic. Every input you make is 100% true; add on physics tricks/spindash and you got a whole new level of gameplay that generations/boostshit simply cannot provide. Of course the average normie will only follow the prebuilt path and boostpads in a straight line.

>>375787060
You can drift, quickstep and slide/stomp. The way you abuse these mechanics in combination with the boost will decide how much time you'll take to finish the stage (and modern Sonic gameplay is all about speed). Have you even played the game?

>>375787403
>shitty physics
>terrible and awkward animations
>awful controls

>b-but this is good because your input is true and you can explore the stage!

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>>375787434
of course I played it. I made a video comparing how bad sonic controls compared to Adventure, see >>375786048

All the shit you mentioned u can do in a smartphone game like temple run. auto run forward and quickstep to collect your coins goy!
casualized trash

There is nothing more pathetic than adventure cucks

Unleashed/colors/generations are so much better than the shit that came before it

I dare say that Sonic has never, ever, been good at moving fast. Be it 2D or 3D.

The Adventure games however, were the best at things not necessarily related to going fast. Which makes them very noteworthy. Even if they're far, far from perfect.

I get that Sonic's whole thing is moving fast. It's like the concept behind the character for some reason. But I have always been under the impression that it has always been Sonic's bane. At the very least as far as the games are concerned.
The developers trying yet consistently failing to make "fast" Sonic gameplay, has always been what made them bad.

>>375787637
>mad because he's bad at the game

That's really sad

>>375787651
very good argument boostshit faggot
enjoy having the game modify your inputs :^)

Here's a great Mario Kart 8 Deluxe analogy:

BOOSTSHIT generations/30fpscolors/unleashed: Smart Steering [ENABLED]

Adventure/Heroes/06:
Smart Steering [DISABLED]

>>375786867
I disagree

>>375787682
Rush, unleashed, and generations show that sonic can go fast perfectly fine

It all depends on the levels and set design

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>>375787771
that reply makes no sense.

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>>375787828
>Comparing Adventure to SONIC FUCKING 06

CANT
MAKE
THIS
UP

>>375787925
Apt comparison, they're both fucking terrible.

>>375787925
I grouped boostshit and spindash games. Are you a non-white? If so I understand why you reached that conclusion.

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>>375788080
>Heroes is a bad game
>Sonic 06 is a fucking terrible game
>By proxy, Adventure is....

C'mon anon, I'm sure you can work this one out

You can argue to what extent they succeeded or failed.
But in the Adventure games it's pretty clear that having a good control over the player character's movement was a priority.
In the Boost gameshowever, it's pretty clear that they didn't so much care for the player's ability to control Sonic. As opposed to Sonic's movement having a purpose. Like moving forward. Which why everything is geared towards moving forward. The player's control be damned.

>>375779974
>So this game is supposed to be a spiritual successor to Generations right?

It's the literal successor to Generations, you fucking retard
Do you know what a, "spiritual successor" means?

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>>375788242
06 is not bad, if I asked you why you think it's so, you'd regurgitate whatever some youtuber pulled out of his ass to be a clown and get ad moni.

Heroes much better than any boostshit game.
>long stages
>great controls
>true inputs
Only con is the lack of a spindash/bounce bracelet.

Adventure's sonic gameplay is a masterpiece when you compare it to boostshit """"""""""""gameplay"""""""""
>automated smartphone 'press L and R to dash and collect coins!'
>try to go left with analog stick and you can't because the game is modifying your inputs

>>375789010
>06 is not bad
>Heroes better than anything
Stop posting. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>375789126
gud argument 10/10

>375789010
>06 is not bad

Okay, lemme guess, you're a SA2 nostalgiafaggot so you cant bring yourself to hate on 06 or else you'd be forced to recognize how similar the two games are, right? Or hey, maybe you're young enough to have nostalgia for 06, who knows

>>375789358
I'm not here to argue. I just saw your dumbass post and wanted to chime in that you have terrible opinions.

>>375789410
Even if you were a kid when 06 came out, lets say 9-11

You would be still over 20 at this point

>>375789410
>375789010
i actually bought a ps3 and got sonic 06 for it to see what all the memeing was about. turns out it's a pretty good game. There are bugs, but you have to go out of your way to get those bugs.

>>375789468
your opinions are worse tyvm

I thought Generations was great but I fear that this is going to just be more of the same. But at the same time I ironically also fear that the third gameplay type is going to be awful.

Only Sega can make me fear that a game will either turn out to samey and/or try something completely different but extremely shitty.

>>375789634
>i actually bought a ps3 and got sonic 06 for it to see what all the memeing was about. turns out it's a pretty good game. There are bugs, but you have to go out of your way to get those bugs.

You fucking tripped, kid. The PS3 version of 06, despite being delayed, was unplayable compared to even the 360 version. You're full of so much shit, farmers want to invest in your compost.

>>375789634
>bought a ps3 instead of a 360 last gen

You are really not helping yourself lol

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>>375789883
>lol
hello there

>>375786867
>Terrible music
Okay it had a handful of decent tracks all I will defend about that game

>>375790401
The only tracks I remember is the one that sounds like empire city day and then windy valley act 2, which oddly also sounds like apotos

>>375785065
I'm hoping for adventure style sections for the new character to appease everyone

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>split the game three ways now
>classic Sonic is back just because despite having his own spin off game that's doing everything 1000% better.
>don't improve classic Sonic in any meaningful manner with physics or level design
>actually looks worse in some areas
>Shown nothing from Modern Sonic other than the most boring and basic segment they could have.
>third gameplay style we know nothing about that stars some random fuckface
>don't focus everything on massively improving boosty nuSonic since that's all they seem to be capable of not fucking up


It won't be anywhere close to a disaster but it won't be the step forward they need.

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If that statement about "create your >own character" is real

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>>375791889

If the donutsteel rumor holds water this entire charade will be worth it for the fallout and we'll still have Mania.