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Lmfao cry harder fucking faggots >why aren't videog

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Lmfao cry harder fucking faggots

>why aren't videogames pandering to MY sexual preferences wahh

https://amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html
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is there any jrpg with gay options? or do japs hate fags?
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Where do you people even find this stuff
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I wanna have some fun with futaba
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>Suck dick like a faggot
>Act like a complete faggot

k
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>>375771476
younger japs don't have a huge issue with it. Older Japs find it degenerate since it means you aren't breeding. Older japs also blame anime and manga for the low birthrate. Also some Japanese feminists feel that manga and anime delivers bad representations of women that lead to rape.
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>>375771690
>older Japs find it x
funny considering 200 years ago it was a major thing in the country
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>>375771476
From what I gather (I'm not an expert), they're not necessarily anti-gay but they're just well aware of the slippery slope of "media representation". You give them an inch and they take a mile, same reason they basically laugh it off when westerners criticize them for having bad "representation of women" in manga and anime.
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>>375771576
Some people are so dedicated to hating a thing, they spend their days searching for it.
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>>375771690
Also, the guy that writes that Irregular at a Magic High School light novel revealed in one volume that Tatsuya actually dislikes gays.
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>feeling persecuted because a game features straight people

I'm a fag and this shit is retarded
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>>375771476
Persona 2 has a gay option. It's also the canon option.
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Let's get a female option in before we worry about ass ticklers.
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>>375771931
Ummm that's wrong sweetie.
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>>375771805
Sodomy is a major thing anywhere except those ultra conservative Muslim countries.
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Why the fuck can't I romance Akechi.
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This is the sort of whincing baby that needs to get their ass kicked once or twice.

Not because he's gay, but because he's such a fucking baby that he can't handle playing as a straight person in a game and phrases it like some personal attack on gays.
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>>375771805
Older japanese don't like to talk about that. For the older generations, the era they tend to favor is the Meiji restoration up until the 1970's. They might romanticize the samurai of legend and the way of bushido, but they still keep many of the prudish sexual values that emerged during the Meiji era when state power became more centralized and when the Japs began adopting more of the Victorian family values.
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>>375771868
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAG
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>>375771963
No.
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>>375771805
That wasn't gay tho. They where just palling around, next thing you'll say getting a brojob is gay as well.
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>>375771968
Is it really not sodomy if it's a goat?
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>>375771808
shounen anime overly sexualizes women and shoujo anime overly sexualizes men

i don't see why they complain
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>>375771808
That's less funny when you realize that the country's gender roles are on the level of 1950s America.

Hmm
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>>375772267
God bless'em.
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brojobs are super gay
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>>375771832
ONII-SAMA
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>>375771242
>People that don't realize that romancing is completely optional.
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>>375772267
Based nippon
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>>375772267
NO ITS SJDUBYAH PROPAGANDA
DIDN'T YOU SEE THE IMAGES WITH MAKOTO AND THAT FORTUNE TELLER
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>>375772267
Sounds like Japan had the right of it.

Everything went to shit the moment women got the right to vote. You know what happened soon after? Prohibition. What a fucking shitshow that was.
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>RPG
>Can't roleplay
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>>375772267
The worst part is that you think that's a bad thing. Even then you're wrong. Its not that comparable, they are just more sane then a race that thinks sex isn't biological.
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>>375771832
>based onii-sama hates fags

A better Jesus than Jesus himself.
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>>375771476
Nothing wrong with going out and sucking cock a few nights a week as long as you go home to your wife and kids afterwards.
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>>375772441
But you are, as a popular teenager with lots of friends.
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>>375772328
>>375772383
>>375772409
>>375772462
At least you're consistent.
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>>375772441
Fortunately, straight-faced homosexuality is punishable by death in the land of the rising sun
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>>375772267
Yeah and then it shifted, now they have even more crippling birth rate issues because everyone is crushed under the weight of their shitty work ethic.
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>>375772409
prohibition brought gangsters and gangsters are cool
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>>375772631
They were already there.
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>>375771476
Persona 4 was gonna have Yosuke be a homo but they cut it
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>>375771832
SIMPLY THE BEST
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>>375772631
But those gangsters was what made current niggers act like they do.
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>>375771242
>get no girls in school
>decide to turn gay
>gets no dick either
>play game thinking he can be gay there
>"waaaah why can't I be gay in this japanese game?"

Also fuck you faggot OP for posting a link here.
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>>375772330
Only if you're a fag
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Why are straight people so insecure about having gay people in their games?

It's like they're afraid they're going to catch The Gays.
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>>375772948
I don't want to turn into a homo faggot. I like girls.
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Friendly reminder that the term "gender" was coined by pedophile who destroyed the lives of his two test subjects in order to prove his own theory was right.

Sex on the other hand is the agreed upon term that refers to the biological role in life that all animals have, Male or Female.
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>>375771242
So he's saying homosexuality is a choice? Nice.
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>>375772948
I don't want to have to watch my character drop and start sucking dick every time he encounters a male NPC
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>>375772948
1 in 20 people are LGBT in Japan.

So for realism sake, one of 20 characters would have to be gay in-game for the game to be "representative".

Yusuke is in the game, and there are those 2 okamas as well.

So if anything, gay people are over-represented in Persona 5.
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>>375772186
>SUCKING DICKS ISN'T GAY, BRO
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>>375773154
>1 in 20 people are LGBT in Japan.

that seems a bit high no?
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>>375773089
Gender is a social construct, just like height. There's no such thing as a man, woman, or even manlet. You are what you identify as. While I may be 5'4, I identify as 7'4.
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>>375771476
Nah pretty sure they don't have a problem with it.

But in my opinion they are more ok with trannies than outright gay people I think? I'm just basing it on how Japan portrays them. Just look at Lala Escargot.
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homosexuality is a degenerative act.
Sure you can be attracted to nice things like women and men along with food or cars.
However wanting to fuck something is different.
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>Game has a dating sim aspect.
>Don't like any of the options.
>Friendzone everyone and move on.

wow that was hard
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>>375773238
It's not if it's your friend's dicks and none of you are gay.
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>>375771242

Cant wait until Crimson comes out and puts in more hetero options

Get fucked
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>>375773243
5% seems really high? I don't think so if you lumped all the gay boys and gay girls together.
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>>375773359
Or if you say "no homo"
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>>375773368
>Get fucked

I wish I could, bigot.
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>>375771476
Stella glow has different character endings based on maxed affection
I never got any of the guys though so I don't know what their like
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What is their fucking definition of "being in the closest".

You just published an article for hundreds of people to look at and say "hey, this guy is GAY".
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>>375773301
I, to, can relate to this. While I have a large penis, I just consider it a clit to my anus doubling as a vagina. I identify as a beautiful woman.
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>>375773352
Just like real life
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>>375771242
>I'm a boring person who plays as myself in video games
boo fucking hoo
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>>375771476
Persona 2?
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>tfw the only male character I'd romance wouldn't be an option even if there was gay routes
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>>375772697
They did? I guess I didn't notice.
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>Can't romance lolis
>Expect to romance guys
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>>375773462
None of them are really gay though. Hell, you could max "friendship points" in Trails of Cold Steel but the MC still isn't gay.

Funnily enough he's most concerned about his other male friend but still.
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>>375773089
inorite. Personally, I identify as a heron. Anyone doubting my status as a heron better check their privilege and keep their biological facts to themselves as to not offend me deeply and get a slap on the wrist from hundreds of thousands of transsexuals on twitter.
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>>375771242
I love how only homosexuals have problems with these. Goes to show how fucking messed up they are.
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>>375771242
Why is he complaining that the main character isn't gay? It's almost as though you are born with your sexuality and the main character of this game was not born gay.
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would date shinya desu, not gay
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>>375771576
Are you referring to OP or the writer of the article? Doesn't matter, the answer is possibly the same for both, although OP could just be venting about something he finds irritating.

>Some people have an inborn impulse to hate
>In the days of yore, it was okay in certain places to hate some people simply for being born, e.g. blacks, jews, etc. regardless of character
>Society no longer accepts this kind of hate
>There are still people who feel like they need to hate
>So, instead of hating a race or whatever, they hate a type - conservative, liberal, christian, rich, country folk, etc.
>This is where we get SJWs and MRA types. They're the same type of people who would, once upon a time, be part of a lynch mob, "saving others from those predatory negroes." Now they're a lynch mob "saving others from predatory men/women/Trump supporters/globalists"

As the delusional Bob Chipman said, "There are no bad methods, only bad targets."

Frame yourself as the victim, and you can be as hateful as you want. The Nazis did it. The Soviets did it. And now, the whole internet's doing it. Buy a helmet.
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>>375771242
>A game about breaking the shackles of societal norms
Yeah about abuse, fraud, sexual assault, and other repressed things adults use in win things in their favor.

Why are homosexuals like this?
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>>375772753
Like how the Nazi's being incompetent edgy fucktards and failing to win allowed neo political correctness to overtake Europe 70 years later
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>>375773949
Homosexuality is a choice.
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>Series like Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Fallout have all let me play as a character not unlike who I am now: a confident, unapologetic gay man who could express those feelings without fear of judgement. Persona 5 is the first time in a while that I had to play a character more along the lines of who I was
Hm, it's almost as though those are WRPGs with extensive character customization and role playing, and this is a JRPG with a predefined and prebuilt character.
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>>375774076
Nah, fuck off.
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>>375774119
And it's almost as if the first 3 games have dog shit story due to your character being literally a blank canvas.
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>>375771242
>Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Fallout
Ah, I see this guy loves eating shit if he can at least be gay in it.
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Would you let the gym coach gay rape you?
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>>375774076
you are born a homo sexual

but you choose to be a faggot
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>>375774076
>>375774221
I'm not asking because I lean to either side but in all seriousness why is it such a debate to whether being gay is a choice or something you're born with?
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>>375774332
because IT'S NOT A PHASE MOM
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>>375774332
Because it's either:

1. A mental illness and you shouldn't discriminate against it

2. A choice and just like being fat is a choice, people can shit on you for it
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>>375771832
Oh fuck I love Irregular at Magic Highschool now
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>>375774332
Because the USA is all about "individual responsibility", and if you leave aside whether or not homosexuality is some kind of moral degeneracy you still shouldn't punish people for something they have no control over.
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>>375774427
Why is it a mental illness?
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>>375771242
He's acting like someone held a gun to his head and forced him to romance the girls. That Makoto scene is literally plot relevant and nothing more. Is he saying a faggot can't pretend to like a girl to reach a goal and he has to be gay 100% of the time? Also what is with gays and thinking straight people can turn gay at the drop of a hat and that every male they see should be open to fucking? Do they not know they're an extreme minority?
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>>375773154
So by your own argument, there should be a playable female MC, correct?

50% of people in Japan are women, but there's only one MC whose male. Men are over represented.
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>>375774485
Because your thinking is different from the norm nibba.

Why is Autism a mental illness.
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>>375771242
*shudders*
I'm surprised Atlas didn't just pause both of these games and have a big giant advertisement play to support that evil racist loser Donald Drumpft.....
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>>375774485
In a purely scientific standpoint, it causes attraction to the same sex which prevents continuation of the genes of the individual.


But you better not research what causes it or else you're literally hitler.
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>>375774606
There's actually an equal representation of women in the game.

You control them in-game just like the protagonist, so they're main characters.
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>>375774619
That's not what a mental illness is.
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>>375773404
Surveys with proper methodology show the homosexual population is always around 1-2% of the total population.
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>>375774634
Is this some kind of Pavlovian conditioning that has caused sexy = sexist in the minds of the gaming press?
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>>375773806
You get as 'romantic' with the guys as you do with the girls (exept one)
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>>375774684
That's not how the term MC works.
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>>375774046
Stop you're scaring me
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>>375774668
>But you better not research what causes it or else you're literally hitler.
I-I don't want to be hitler.. but, what do you mean?!
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>>375771963
kaneko considers tatsuya to be a polesmoker and that's all that matters
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>>375773089
Back to tumblr with you

Gender exists and is binary, i.e. defined by your genitals and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>375774703
It also doesn't help that /vpol/'s favorite president has removed those kinds of questions from the census.
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>>375774703
I'm assuming surveying only cities = higher percentage

It's not like the government of Japan is doing surveys all over the country to know if people are gay.
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>>375774746
But you just drink with Rusty though after Alto accepts that he's old as shit.

I guess I can mostly blame some of the weaker endings for the girls.
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WAIFUS ARE TRASH
LOVE INTERESTS OF ANY KIND ARE TRASH
THIS ENTIRE BAIT THREAD IS NOTHING BUT TRASH

YOU HEAR ME?!
TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH!
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>>375774606
Except he wasn't talking about MCs. He was talking about characters in general retard.
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>tfw being homosexual and being a pedophile are literally the same thing

Therefore I should be able to fuck Justine and Caroline.
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>>375772267
Holy shit, I'm a #RefugeeMissile now
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>>375771242
>Exposed shoulders

Whore
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>>375774076
Dont know about that, i dont think what you're into sexually is necessarily a choice, i doubt that could, even for a second, ween myself onto liking scat for example
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>>375774948
>tfw you will never get fucked by Akechi so hard, you'll suffer mental breakdown
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>>375772267
When America had the highest standard of living in the world thanks to WWII money? Yeah those were good times.
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>>375774332
Because if it's a choice, you can choose not to be gay, in which case, why wouldnt you?
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>>375774849
These include surveys going back from before Obama.

>>375774879
Good way to look at it. If one person yells in a crowd it might not seem like much. If ten people yell in a crowd it seems much bigger.
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>>375772267
>>375772386
>Butthurt libtard niggers get Mad i expose their SJW game
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>>375774846
I heard that people who think nonbinary gender is actually a thing believe it's on a spectrum of masculine to feminine right? Isn't that ideologically inconsistent since they're supposed to be fighting norms for the sexes/genders?
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>>375774076
u
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>>375774846
you misunderstand, or maybe I worded that poorley.

What I mean to say is that Sex exists and is Binary, whilst gender is a term that was created by a monster who caused the suicides of two people in order to prove his own, insane point.
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>>375775184
>Stating a fact is being a libtard

Really makes you think
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>>375775184
>D-d-don't show the common people how much l-left wing propaganda is in this g-g-g-g-game!!!!
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>>375774808
I think if anyone wrote a sound, scientific thesis that tangibly proved that homosexuality was an illness or a defect of some sort, they would probably be treated as hitler
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>>375771242
kys straightfag
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>>375771242
>"Persona 5 put me back in the closet"

Wow, this game is even better than I imagined.

Also the answer to your question dude from Paste magazine is that Japanese teens and tweens kinda find homos to be icky and weird still. 4chan and general internet dwellers have rendered themselves braindamaged with their consumption of trap porn and take its relative popularity in niche porn media as some sort of sign that Japan is "progressive" at all.

Most kids and younger people in Japan don't really have particularly strong feelings about LGBT people but still handle things outside of their comfort zone the way Japanese people always do: Ignore the fuck out of it. The nail that sticks up gets hammered down, etc.

Older Japanese consider it sort of a degeneracy (think more like a fetish) but not some godforsaken cancer on society and a sin against god or whatever.

Coming out is a good way to have basically no one ever talk to you again depending on where you are in Japan. You're not gonna get fagbashed or called names or harassed or denied jobs- you're just going to be very quietly and politely shunned as possible by anyone who is in the slightest bit uncomfortable with your preference.

Also as if they're gonna write a shitload of extra dialog and record a ton of extra voice lines for you to romance almost the entire cast if they make same-sex relationships an option.
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>>375775191
Probably
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>>375771476
Dragon's dogma.
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>>375771242
well being gay is going against nature so, lol @ the dumb queers.
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>>375775347
wtf, i hate persona now
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>>375771242
>stupid nigger cant into playing from a gay woman perspective
boo fucking hoo
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>>375775154
Cities also tend to attract more weirdos, outcasts, and atypicals in general.
At the very least, city gays are less likely to be closeted.
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>>375775378
Doesn't take much to set people off these days.
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Why is it with no many persona threads we never get a thread that actually talks about the game?
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so they're mad because a game doesn't pander to the mental illness that is homosexuality?
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>>375774843
Kaneko is a retarded hack with his only talent being his art, fucking Meguro at least directed a decent remake of a game, all kaneko did was make the shitty plot of SMT IV
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>>375775347
>>375775184
All I see are bitches complaining.
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>>375775683
Because all talking about P5 as a game died in 1 week 3 days 14 hours and 18 minutes 54 seconds
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>WAHHHH WHY DOESN'T THIS AAA JAPANESE GAME HAVE HOMOSEXUALS IN IT?

also the fact this faggot even mentions mass effect is proof he has no goddamn taste. those """"romance"""" options are shallow as fuck and one social link in persona 5 has more depth and story than the entirety of all 3.. 4 mass effect games.
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>>375775289
Keep denying this is not SJW queers
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>>375775917
One other thing to note is he clearly didn't play very far because the red light district has two gay dudes who hit on Ryuji.
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>>375775683
Because nobody is playing Persona for the gameplay. It's serviceable but if you're playing Persona instead of SMT, you're doing it for the waifu pandering and plot.
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>>375771242
clickbait title is clickbait.
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>>375775990
That shit is mild compared to "actual" sjw writing.
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Serious question, why are so many internet media outlets obsessed with this LGBT bullshit?

I've even seen some of them pushing pedophilia acceptance.
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>>375775347
>>375775184
>>375775990


All you have to do is be moderately decent looking as a woman and you get the world handed to you, they also have the court system on their side by default which ALWAYS villifies the man even if he's in the right and did no wrong. No idea why they're bitching.
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>>375775990
I know it's hard for you to think about life outside your internet hugbox, but everything in those images is true.

They're not even spouting "muh wage gap", but that females have a harder time in male dominated professions and it's true. the same way it's true for males in female dominated professions.

stop being a snowflake that literally gets triggered everytime a female speaks.
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>WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAA WHY NOT EVERY GAME IN THE WIRLD IS LIKE MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA! I LIKE BEING REPRESENTED BY BLAND STEREOTYPES AND TOKEN CHARACTERS!
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>>375776101
>playing SMT for the gameplay and not to make a harem of demon waifus
pleb
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>>375775990
It isn't, it's plenty true and hardly as annoying as hearing how western feminists put it. Asian society still has very little room in terms of "respecting females".
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The fag likes Ryuji, he doesn't just need to go back into the closet, he needs to be fucking bricked in.
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>>375776136
"would you listen"

no I'd strap him up for lethal injection or castration. if you're attracted to children you are a monster no question.
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it's weird that people who insist on being the vanguards of LGBT representation in media/games/etc tend to define themselves through that identity and how it's this important part of their being

and then applaud LGBT romances in games that write the preference in a way that characters treat it like their favorite pizza topping or something

Like the characters are these gormless, sexless homunculi with the sex-driven part of their brains cut out until you get to the magic dialog option that flips the "homo or straight" switch so you can fuck them
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>>375775990
I know right? All games should only contain things I find acceptable. That will teach those fucking faggots, trying to make it so games only contain things they find acceptable.
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>>375776152
The images are about women in office workplaces.

Are you seriously going to tell me that women have the exact same chances of holding high positions in Japanese companies as men?
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>>375774076
This
Sucking dicks is a choice and lust is a chemical in the brain
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>>375776136

Because being a pedophile is literally a mental disorder along the lines of Autism or Dyslexia.
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>>375775990
It's set in Japan, where women are actually disadvantaged.

In America, women have an easier time getting into college than men (the majority of college students are actually women) and will easily find a job afterwards as long as they don't take a useless degree like Gender Studies.
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>>375776152
Not in Japan you fucking moron
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>>375776256

Don't cut yourself bro.
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>>375776152
you're literally enforcing ((their)) talking points by saying that retarded shit. courts side with mothers because they're deemed more essential in a child's upbringing.

which also has nothing to do with making your way in a male dominated profession
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>>375776329
But being trans isnt?
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>>375775990
Fuck off, it's not for propaganda, it's an actual issue in a game that talks about society issues. Play the game first instead of taking that phrase out of context you goddamn fucking moron.
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>>375776152
THIS GAME TAKES PLACE IN JAPAN YOU FUCKING RETARD. IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
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>>375771579
Hews is a god among men.
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>>375776458

I didn't say anything about being trans, I honestly don't give a shit about them, they don't affect my life.
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>>375776153
>Reddit spacing
Figures with a literal communist being in the game
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>>375775990
That's a fact. In this case, it's actually you who is the SJW.

>>>/pol/
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>>375776136
It gets clicks.
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>>375776173

>every game should be about people like me, but handsome and not fat :^)
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I just wanna date Morgana all these other characters are either bland, shit, boneheads, or Sojiro. Sojiro's not bad, though.
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>>375776413
I'd rather save the knife for you pedo.
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>>375776386
>japanese women
>attractive

pick one
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>>375771805
Those historic people still got married and bred properly, and their homosexual relationships were within an acceptable context of older senpai "looking after" a younger male until he got too manly and got married himself. Same thing applies to the Romans and Greeks and usually sodomy was still highly frowned upon.

Two adult equal men fucking each other has never been OK, even through various gay parts of history and cultures. The best that was ever allowed was legalized shotacon/sissyfication.
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>>375776238
>>375776301
>>375776383
>>375776491
>>375776546
Loving all this proof faggots, unlike you nu-males I have evidence with screenshots, you don't even have a fanfiction article
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>>375776152

The court system thing is honestly a toss-up, It's pretty split who they'll side with, regardless of evidence in the case of sexual assault.

I've seen plenty of cases go bad for legitimate victims and false assaulters.
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>Game about social issues

>First antagonist uses past successes to sexually harass and abuse his students
>Fuck that guy

>Second antagonist cheats their pupils out of future and deals with fraud
>Fuck that guy

>Third antagonist is part of organized crime
>Fuck that guy

>Fourth girl is about social rejects
>Yeah we should help her

>Fifth antagonist is about abusing workers in low paying jobs
>Fuck that guy

>Sixth antagonist is about women not being respected in male dominated fields
>GET THIS FUCKING FEMINISM SHIT OUT OF MY VIDEO GAMES REEEE
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>>375776637

Not a pedo, but nice edge.
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>>375776553
WOOOW IT'S ALMOST SCARY HOW GOOD YOU ARE :3
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>>375771832
Post-Kira Yamato new Jesus hates gays

Based.
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Honestly though, disregarding the article in the OP, there is no reason for the game not to have a gay character or romance option
You get to fuck teachers and old hags but having something that was already done in the second fucking installment of the series is too unrealistic or too "weird"?
The whole game is about being a social outcast and letting your real self out but gays would be totally out of place and forced?
One of the characters main problems is that she's too perfect so girls hate her and guys just wanna fuck her, yet it's considered to be more worthy of being in the game than a character that happens to like the same sex?
Come on.
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>>375771832
I unironically love this show
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>>375771832
Considering how that stuff is is basically about Fascist Onii-Sama Jesus killing all the foreigners I'm not surprised.
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>>375771242
So the blog/article is basically... "i'm a faggot and i want to roleplay as a faggot in my video games"

the faggot could have just summed it all up in this simple sentence instead of making himself look like a pretentious faggot
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>>375776136
>Serious question, why are so many internet media outlets obsessed with this LGBT bullshit?
Because it's the current social crusade. If we still had shit like slavery or women not being allowed to vote then that's what they'd be rallying against instead.

>I've even seen some of them pushing pedophilia acceptance.
I doubt anyone is advocating for sexually molesting children, just acknowledgement that it's a mental illness that needs treatment, not vilification.
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>>375776864
Wasn't it implied that Yusuke swings both ways if you pick the sarcastic asshole option during one of his Slinks?
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>>375776765
>>Sixth antagonist is about women not being respected in male dominated fields

Wait really? The final boss's crime is "disrespecting people"?

That's like
First boss: Murders kittens
Second boss: Baby rapist
Final boss: Doesn't turn off his highbeams
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>>375776730
I don't think you even actually played it, so what the fuck are you even here talking?
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>>375776906
>just acknowledgement that it's a mental illness that needs treatment, not vilification.
Thats how it started for homosexuality, too, and look where we are now.
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Why can't I date Yusuke Atlus?

Why must Best Boy be forever alone?
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>>375776541
The other two are pretty bad but this is just a politician pandering, what do you expect?
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>>375777084
There's one more palace after that.

But yeah.
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>>375776418
>courts side with mothers because they're deemed more essential in a child's upbringing
>Many children with divorced parents end up fucked up in the head because of the lack of a father

Checkmate atheists.
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>>375776906
Homosexuality isn't a mental illness.
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>>375774947
Mordi's ending was so bad that the bitter taste still lingers in my mouth.
Fortunately, none of the other endings with the girls were on that level of shittiness, even at their worst.
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>>375776153
>snowflake
When did the term snowflake lose all meaning?
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>>375776906
>If we still had shit like slavery or women not being allowed to vote then that's what they'd be rallying against instead.
This is when everything started going oh so wrong.

Why do retards always have to being the loudest, most obnoxious faggots who want to change everything and just make it all worse for everyone?
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>>375771832
SAUSAGE OH KNEE SUMMER
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>>375777191
>courts side with mothers because they're deemed more essential in a child's upbringing

This is false actually.


More women then men get custody of kids in divorces because most men don't try to get it. In cases where men actually fight to get custody they tend to get it more often then not. (It's just a slight edge there, but it still exists.)
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>>375777084
She isn't the final boss, the final boss is humanity desires for complete control, which is used by a chaosfag Demiurge to achieve control with a survival of the fittest law
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>>375777231
She was the least useful witch and since Hilda joins you and takes up both 1st and 2nd slots, I basically forgot Mordi existed. I found her cute but just not enough to compete with others on a both character and gameplay based scale.

Her 2nd outfit is really nice though.
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>>375777090
>Backpedalling
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>>375777212
>t. deluded homosexualist
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>>375776864
There's no reason to make one either. Quotas are trash, if they don't want to make a gay character then they don't. If they don't want to make their MC gay/bi then they don't.
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>>375776906
Salon ran articles by a "virtuous, non-contact pedophile" not even advocating for treatment, just that it shouldn't be vilified.

They've since removed them though, since he turned out to not be as virtuous as he claimed.
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>>375777498
So the entire medical community consists of deluded homosexuals? Because ask any psychologist or mental health specialist if homosexuality is a mental illness and they'll tell you no.
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>>375777212

Sure it is. The question is "Is it actually worth treating?" Probably not. It doesn't really do horrendous harm to anyone beyond the social stigma which will probably be non-existent in the west within a few decades. Pedophilia, on the other hand, probably is worth treating because it's a compulsion to prey on the vulnerable.
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Why don't these people make their own games then? If there's a market for it, then clearly they'll have a lot of success.
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>>375771832
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WYRQXrn7YM
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>>375776206
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>>375777645
Good times.
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>>375777691
But that requires actually doing something with their lives when complaining about not being pandered to is easier.
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>>375777648
The medical community also said that Gulf War Syndrome didn't exist for almost 20 years until they were proven wrong

Oops...
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>>375777648
homosexuals, women, Jews, and/or spineless men.
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>>375777691
They do and then the very same people saying to make their own game throw giant tantrums.
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>>375771242
you ever wonder why lefties flock to japan despite it being everything they hate? is it because they're not white?

like, what's up with that
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>>375777648
Exactly. Watch Bill Nye Saves the World, idiots.
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I am literally actually in love with someone that doesn't exist.

Please send help.
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>>375774076
this
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>>375778042
Nah I'm good.
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>>375777912
Cool.
Where are they?
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>>375777991
It's not "lefties" that flock to Japan, it's weeaboos. Weeaboos do not have a central political stance. There are leftist weebs, right wing weebs, commie weebs, nazi weebs.
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>MC isnt a homo

Cry my a fucking river
Ingame relationships are fucking stupid anywau
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>>375778051
that is true waifu my friend, not that waifu=character I find pretty misconception that is so rampant nowadays
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>>375778042
>getting your outlook from Bill Meme the Engineering Bachelors Degreem.
shiggy
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>>375778051
Imagine black men with BBC's ramming them and then killing them with an axe
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>>375777912
Wooow it's like the games thay make are shit!
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>>375778123
There is that one game about hipsters.
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>>375778234
Given it's not out yet, we have no idea of it's quality.
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>>375778131
>Weeaboos do not have a central political stance.
Then why do all of them on jewtube look like trailer trash or hood rats that live off of the government check?
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>>375771832
What the fuck I like the best transportation system ever now.
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>>375771242
That is funny coming from op the king faggot.
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>>375778224
Nah you are just racist/sexist/homophobic
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>>375778332
I would say anime is more likely to respond to people with more conservative values, since the subject matter and natural conservatism of Japan shines through, but even if the proportian is high, the sheer overwhelming numbers of western liberals still probably dominates most weaboos.

Its probably like a 25/75 split but thats pretty high if you compare it to the average of conservative people under 30 in the general population.
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>>375773301
So what peoplw seem to have trouble understanding and explaining is that when say shit like "height" or "geneder" is a social construction, they're refering to how we understand and maybe inheritily feel about these things, rather than not these things existing or not. Of course height is fucking real, but how we prefer people to be taller and how it's a trait to coveted, that is the construction.
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>>375774119
>Mass Effect
(lol

We're a fucking second class option to Bioware only put in for Brownie points. Are you ready to fuck boring space dude with crew cut? Or boring space due with crew cut?
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>>375777084

Okay first of all, it's the reverse. The sixth antagonist has developed an obsession due to said lack of respect, and has let herself become driven to an unhealthy attitude towards her life and career.

There's quite a bit more game after that. One quite long Palace and a second one after that if you're going for the true ending.

The boss of the palace after that one is a proper villain. And the one after that is a god.
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>>375777535
You need to realize that not everyone is as retarded as bioware when it comes to gay characters and making a gay character instead of THE gay character isn't the hardest thing in the world
Of course if you're not gay you think it's unnecessary, but if pleasing a minority had no negative impact on the game then why not do it? There is a bunch of shit that they didn't have to put in the game yet they still did and it's fine. So why not this?
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>>375778810
and your argument is called "deconstruction" and its a classic marxist trick to diminishes inherent human values and common sense by using reductionist arguments

take your kike opinions back where you came from
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>>375778647
>since the subject matter and natural conservatism of Japan shines through

That reeeaaaalllllly depends, though. There are plenty of anime that either coyly mock or outright criticize the "traditional" natural conservatism of Japan.
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>>375773318
Lala-chan's bar is a specific kind of dive bar that's pretty common in Japanese Red Light Districts. It's not just some regular bar that just HAPPENS to have a cross-dresser as the bartender. It's all part of the show.
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>>375779057
even a fairly liberal or critique Japanese person is miles more conservative than your average western liberal.

also the based Japanese media only allows them to go so far before they threaten to pull the show if they get too subversive.

I'll take Naoko Takeuchi's brand of "feminism" over any professor of gender studies from a western univesity anyday
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>>375778051
Its alright friend
I am too
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>>375778854
They're still not letting you fuck an alien dude? That's boring. Why even play ME at that point?
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>>375778854
>still can't engage in a pure homo relationship with Garrus
I will never not be angry
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Nier, KH, & FFfag here. Would I like this game?
I'm seriously considering buying it, but I'm low on cash so I don't want to if it wouldn't be really worth my time. Help me out /v/?
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>>375778647
>be raised by ultraconservative Christian parents
>believe them when I get taught that sexy stuff is evil made by the devil
>grow up and eventually swing the other way into liberal
>They tell me sexy stuff is evil made by conservative misogynists who objectify women
Fuck man, which is it? Why do cute girls have to be a political topic? I just wanna jerk it to 2D AND let people have affordable healthcare
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>>375779159
I know. I mean that her type is usually used as something of a "profound" place to be in when portrayed in media. Samples like Yakuza, Persona, etc. I mean it's like her archetype is like someone who gives you serious answers and stuff. When compared to gay though, they are mostly the joke on it. But there are times when the gays ones are actually the bros in their shows.
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>>375779257
>based japanese media

You mean the one that does shit like this?

>>375779479
Definitely. As long as social sim aspects don't turn you off, you'll be in for a good time.
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>>375778854
>gays and blacks make up a minority of the population
>they expect 50% representation in media

Wowsers.
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>>375779706
Rather have shit like that over the Stevens universe shit
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>>375771242
tl;dr
>Why can't I be a flaming faggot in all aspects of my life? Why isn't the MC exactly like meeeeeeeeee?
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>>375771968
Actually in Afghanistan it's a thing that adult men will rape young boys if they're having a "sexual emergency"
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>>375776383

I've actually read that most women that end up with a degree never use it
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>>375771242
Do you fuckers just look for articles to get upset about?
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>>375779638
Maybe learn to think for yourself and do some research rather than be swayed by the opinions of people around you, you commie sheep.

Also someone is paying for healthcare, stop using media talking points.
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>>375779783
Fuck no. See, shows I don't like, I can just ignore. But when they do shit like that to a show I actually like, it hurts my enjoyment of said show.
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>>375775683
We got tired of complaining about Ryuji's instant kill skill and Okumura's dungeon about a week after launch.
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>play persona 5
>can't piss on my partner of choice.

UM ATLAS EXCUSE ME? do you have ANY idea how ALIENATING it is that i can't be who i am? I am an unapologetic golden shower lover and you should make sure to let me be that in your game.
UGH i can't BELIEVE this
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>>375771242
>Series like Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Fallout have all let me play as a character not unlike who I am now: a confident, unapologetic gay man
Getting this triggered by a video game doesn't make you sound very confident
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>>375779976

>instant kill

Which one
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>>375780121
That passive skill he gets at Confidant Rank 5 or 6 that gives you a chance to instantly kill a group of enemies without a battle if you ambush them, and get a mask from it. But doing this doesn't get you any XP, money, or items, and you can't turn it off unless you just go out of your way to stop ambushing enemies.
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>>375779479
If you like those games i guarantee you'll fucking dig P5

It's a long game chocked full of content, there is NG+ incentive and it's stylish as hell with a 10/10 ost
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>>375780287

Oh is that what that was. I only saw that happen in Mementos so I thought that was something that only happened if you were extremely stronger than them
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>>375779846
>if they're having a "sexual emergency"

The adult men or the young boys?
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>>375780496
The ones who aren't getting sodomized.
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>>375778854
God damn go play otome/yaoi games if you need gay romance in your video games so bad
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>>375779706
>>375780339
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>>375780496

The men
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>>375777648
Because they're socially obligated to, saying otherwise would be career suicide but we all know the truth
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>>375771242
>Japan still has the better representation of lgbt in gaming than the west.

Why is that?
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>>375780467
Yeah, but if you max out Moon it's really easy to be over-leveled for most of whatever next dungeon comes next. Ryuji was cock-blocking me out of pretty much the entirety of the last area. I just wish it were a separate button prompt that pops up or something.
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>>375779918
>think for yourself and do some research rather than be swayed by the opinions of people around you
Well no shit sherlock, the first time I was just a kid. I just wish your average libtard would stop caring about what things I'm "supposed to" hate or like. If I were a sheep I'd be condemning sexualization in entertainment as evil, but I'm not am I?
>stop using media talking points
That was just the first non-sex related argument between american left and right that came to my head 2bh
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>>375771576
i get four of these posted to my feed every fucking morning and have to post them here to boost brand awareness

luckily all of us are anonymous so once thats done i can shitpost freely

hadouken
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>>375780790

What level were you?
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That's probably because the Persona 5 MC isn't gay you fucking faggot
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>>375771242
last person I would ever trust is a woman with 'futa' in her name
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>>375771242
>video game about putting homos back in the closet

Damn, guess I gotta buy a PS4 and P5 now.
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>>375771242
>What finally prompted me telling my mother I was attracted to men wasn’t just a desire to be true to myself in my home, but a frustration at her assumptions. When she spoke of my future, she would make references to a wife I was never going to have and she was the only person in my life who still imagined this distorted future. Over time, what she thought were harmless discussions became tiresome, as she projected expectations onto my life that would never come to pass.

Imagine being such an insufferable contrarian dickwad, that you become gay just to prove your mother wrong.

>Nuh-uh mom, you're wrong! I totally like sucking dicks!.
>>
Name one thing wrong with Japan's gender roles that does not use the word "equality"
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>>375781016
my wife isn't gay you faggot
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>>375771832
Is oniisama our guy?
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>>375771832
He looks like a faggot
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>>375781191
Explain to me why equality is a bad thing.
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>>375781130
Lmao. Idk if that's what happened anon
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>>375781462

How equal are we talking here my man?
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>>375779941
>its okay to promote children smoking
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>>375771832

the man is legitmately christ himself. it's unbelievable
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>>375771931
>canon option
>Tatsuya mourning his dead sisterwaifu as he tearfully rails Jun's boipussy
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I wish i could date Ryoji but it's okay, i'm not playing this game for the romance.

I still get triggered when Steven Segal's japanese blond haired daughter kisses Tatsuya in the ending.
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>>375771476
They have gay VNs
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>>375771476
try to decode 69 other options. 2 is already hard
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>>375782206
Where are the gay videogames?
Don't say steam, please.
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>>375771242
>put-me-back-in-the-closet
OH MY GOD A RUBBER RUBBER rubber rubber
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>>375778042
Bill Nye the "Adopt Nigerian children or die" guy
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>>375771476
they're ok with it but only while you're still growing up. It's kind of a "he's just immature and that's it, let him/er have his/her experiments, he'll grow out of it". That's pretty much it.

Also, gays are getting annoying regarding P5. Trans too.
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>>375771968
Google Pearly Boys. Sodomy is a huge fucking thing in those countries, it's just relationships that are frowned upon really.
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>>375771579
>filename
She's not really younger than anyone else though
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>>375781462
Equality is just a social construct.
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>>375771832
wtf I love anime now
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>>375781690
how am i supposed to cope with the pressure without smoking?
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>>375782775
Become a trap and get fucked up the ass by alpha dicks, duh
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>>375782849
i think i prefer slowly killing myself smoking
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i just got finished watching a show where cute japanese teen girls strive to be the cutest to men thrice their age and are ecstatic when chosen
desu its cute
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>>375771476
Japanese men are fine with homosexuality, so long as the 2+ women involved turn their attentions towards him. Same with women, they're fine with gay men so long as they're stuffing their holes.

Otherwise they deserve to be beaten straight & produce babies.
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>>375773730
That is the heartiest kek I have had in awhile
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>>375782775
just become a fetishistic weirdo, stroking it to deal with stress has worked fairly well for me for maybe the past four or five years
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>>375775990
You don't understand my son. And you should shut your mouth.
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>>375783048
>they're fine with homos when they're not homos
wut
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>>375776546
I don't understand this /pol/ thing. Have you been over there? It isn't that one-sided.

Also it was /v/ who kindled the SJW flame, don't try to pawn our shit off on other boards.
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>>375772267
>why do they have a strong culture instead of living in a western cultureless hellhole like me wahhhh
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>>375774058
i hate nazis, not for killing jews, but for being so fucking stupid about it that tjey made the pendelum swing to the other, somehow even worse extreme
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>>375776502
You are going to say this every chance you get, right?
>>
Hope he stays in the closet this time
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>>375774046
good post
>>
>Photojournalist Ichiko Ohya and fellow Phantom Thief Makoto Nijima both forced me to pretend to be their boyfriend in order to progress our friendship, without even asking my permission or if I was comfortable and willing to do that.
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>>375783398
They can go pozzing as much as they want so long as they struggle through cumming inside a woman and raising the kids, what's so complicated?
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>>375772267
Just so you know, their women are actually the ones managing money there, even if the guy works 50h/week and the woman don't do anything, the guy isn't supposed to spend ANYTHING, not even just for a beer in the pub, without her approval and she decides HOW MUCH you're supposed to spend there. That's what their "culture" wants.
Meanwhile they are also, indeed, discriminated at work .
But while it exists it's still way different from America in the 1950'.
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>japan has declining birthrates
>they don't pay me to go fuck their women


wtf??
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>>375774046
>>>/lit/
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>>375782113
Jun is a homo done right.
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>>375771805

>major thing

Stop repeating historical factoids, just because something happened doesn't mean it was "major"
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>>375783865
>what's so complicated?
What you just mentioned.
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>>375775347
>Character brings up long standing issue that exists in society in a game about changing society for the better
>Isn't even in your face and doesn't really affect the plot besides developing character
>lmao libcuck sjews ruining my games gtfo

This meme needs to die.
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>>375771242

>no pastebin or archive

This website is so fucking garbage now, stop feeding clicks you fucking faggots

The person literally has a name as well. "Klaymen" with an article written by someone called Kenneth. He wrote this article most likely you fucking retards
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>>375779846
It's actually more than just Afghanistan

Iraq has it aswell and others do it too
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>>375780868
What anime?
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>>375781551
The way he writes it, you can just see the resentment started even when he was still a kid. He thinks his mother wanting, envisioning, and hoping for, a good future for him, as her son, is "making assumptions".

This guy has the kind of childish mentality and attitude where, were you to go to a restaurant with him and you tell him "hey, you're going to order item A, right?" because you know he really likes A, he's going to order something else, just to show you that you were wrong.
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>>375784826
>feeding clicks
Who the fuck gives a shit
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>>375771476
Gays just play dating sims with female protagonists.

Sure the sex scenes are straight, and the PC is referred to as a female, but the focus of the games is still on the hot guys, so they just focus on that. They don't care about representation and being able to perfectly self-insert onto the character-less protagonist like westerners do.
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>>375771242
To be perfectly fair, the shtick with the effeminate gay guys who hit on Ryuji was pretty cringe.

But imo they were balanced out by best girl Lala Escargot.
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>>375773483
What is their fucking definition of "being in the closest".

You just published an article for hundreds of people to look at and say "hey, this guy is GAY". [2]
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>>375778051
Welcome to the club. Get used to the rest of your life.
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>>375778051
Welcome among us, Futabafriend.
It's a terrible and great feeling to have at the same time. It's truly confusing.
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>>375779638
Something I've learned pretty early on was that people are fucking crazy when it comes to the subject of sex. No matter what kind of sex we're talking about. It could be the most normal sex in the world and you could find some crazy fucker who hates the living shit out of it and wants to prevent others from doing it.
I say just fap away and hope nobody crazy gets a bunch of other crazies together to take away your porn.
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>>375778051
Either Thirds are invented and we are allowed to program them with the personalities of fictional characters, or against all odds we somehow get a chance with an actual person who embodies their traits.

Or the far more likely happening, we die alone.
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>>375774726
what is sexy to one person is sexist to another now, and since the internet is everyone's soapbox and everyone's opinion is the right one, everyone just throws shit at everything

welcome to the 21st century
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>>375774726
Women in gaming was a mistake.
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>>375771242
>>375771476
There's plenty of lesbian options, but it seems to me that gay, per default, means "man on man" in the general public perception and THAT'S sexist.

I don't understand why more people don't try to speak up against this stereotype. Women can be gay too, except it's more beautiful that way.
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>>375785235

kill yourself Kenneth
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>>375783334
Go back to fucking reddit then bitch
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>>375778854
I love how YASSSSSSS INCLUSION video games usually just have lesbians. Nerds who are afraid of real faggots always just use lesbians.
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>>375779638
>grow up and eventually swing the other way into liberal
>Grow up
>Liberal
Kek, thanks for the joke
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>>375772001
because he's not there for valentines day
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>>375787585
SJWs don't care as much about lesbians as fags because they understand that straight males like (hot) lesbians and so of course they must dislike everything straight males like.
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>>375787585
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>>375787937
It's better that way. Consider how there are maybe only 10 or 20 people in the world who are gay for men, meanwhile EVERYONE likes lesbians.
It's, like, why make a handicap ramp to a jump robe store?
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>>375788869
Hey, I love dykes as much as the next man, but it's so fucking cheap.
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>>375771476
>>375771242
KILL FAGGOTS
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>>375771832
>anime jesus hates fags
not big surprise
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>>375787585
>>375788778
>>375788869
We need more
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>>375787285

Women aren't "in" gaming. They're just around it, making loud cunt noises in the bkackground
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>>375772267
1950's America was awesome though...
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>>375789586
>White women
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>>375774046
>today anon wasn't a faggot
I didn't think this was real, 10/10 post
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>>375789586
>white women
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>>375771242
I'm gay as fuck and I loved persona. doing a harem run now, gonna fuck all the bitches. it's super easy to imagine them with penises. that faggot needs to grow the fuck up. seriously.
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>>375771242
>upset that a jap games doesn't like fags
Yeah, younger folks don't give a damn, but it's the older folks that care

I mean hey, your parents still don't like that you fap to women with dicks, but we don't care.
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>>375771242
I know a gay couple.
They love vidya and like persona 5.

This guy's just a blubbering bitch mad that something doesn't pander specifically to his fetishes.
He's as bad as furries, who make it so that every facet of their life revolves around their deranged sexual preferences.
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>>375771242
I don't care if there's an actual homo option, I just want bait options like Yosuke in P4. Requited homo is boring.
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>>375771242
>https://amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html

>tfw a video game gives you flashbacks to heteros harassing you
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>>375794576
I'd be deeply amused by an image of Yosuke trying to cover his raging boner at seeing Teddie in a sexy nurse costume.

Sadly such a thing does not exist.
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>>375789586
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>>375771242
>>375771242
>>375771242

Cant make this shit up
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>>375771947
If there were a female option, literally everybody would exclusively date Yusuke.
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I Hate Faggots so much
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>>375793217
UNGH STICC
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>>375795118
>hates faggots
>posts an anime reaction pic
How ironic
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>>375771476
If you want gay shit then read all those japanese gayboi comics.
At this point being gay or lesbian is, dare I say it, MAINSTREAM
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>>375773341
Word.
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>>375795317
Faggots are not human and they are not natural
Cry more Faggot
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>>375795525
>he posted it again
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>>375794762
how much of a predefined character is Joker, really? He's almost certainly made for the player to self-insert into
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>>375795525
this dude sounds like a muslim, lol.
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>>375795525
>not human and they are not natural
just like weebs?
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>>375795586
Yes and your point is...?
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>>375795714
it's really not getting through at all is it
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>>375795758
Hot
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why do people need to self insert in vidya

especially persona, a series if you want to max out all your combat stats, need to 'roleplay' a manipulative, lying sociopath who only says what his friends want to hear.
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>>375795758
just like those corruption hentai
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>>375795714
>weebs confirmed for not only faggots but retards too
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>>375795768
Ok
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>>375795525
>>375795714
>faggots aren't natural hurr i hate gays /pol/
>says the user who more than likely has a folder container over 200+images of the same anime girl to use as reaction pics
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>>375795883
>I know i'll just keeping posting anime pictures to prove my point

nice
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>>375795902
>Waaaah waaah I'm a faggot and I do not know how to defend myself
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>>375795617
What is the limit?
How about making Joker a handicap so handicap people can self insert?
You don't see people of other races bitching about Joker being Japanese or speaking with Japan honorifics.
Joker is made to be self-inserted for the majority of the population. Characters don't have to cater to literally every fucking one.
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>>375795986
>you must be a fag for pointing out some autist posting anime pics

what lol, we both know you're a fag yourself, stop being in the closet and projecting to other people online
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>>375796145
>Projecting me
>On an anonymous chan
Sure
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>>375795758
>It's her persona
>She can probably feel what it's feeling
>She's been having non-stop dreams about 'abducting' joker while navigating but has no idea how to explain to him what she wants because autism
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>>375794762
The MC for P5 is literally a self insert, what is he talking about?
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>>375783975
That's the chinese, not the japanese.
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>>375771690
>since it means you aren't breeding
They already overfilled their tiny island
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>>375771242
>https://amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/persona-5-put-me-back-in-the-closet.html

>Photojournalist Ichiko Ohya and fellow Phantom Thief Makoto Nijima both forced me to pretend to be their boyfriend in order to progress our friendship, without even asking my permission or if I was comfortable and willing to do that.

Actually they both ask. And if you're this hung up on being gay, maybe you're not as gay as you think, senpai.
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>>375796325
>literally a self insert
>Has a voice/background/somewhat personality
He was expecting 'oblivion' style empty instead of the "we have a story to tell you're in for a ride" of atlus
Something tells me this dongus has never played a jrpg game.
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>>375796680
Gay faggots always have a chip on their shoulder for some reason. Like they must prove they are masculine despite loving to suck dick.
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Why do homosexuals like to hide in closets?
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>>375771832

So? Femenists hate sexy women.
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>>375774846
>can't even tell that guy was on his side
Low effort shitposter
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>>375796858
No one can hurt our fragile feelings in there.
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while this guy is a giant pussy for being upset for every little thing, he's not blaming the game atlus or any of the writing staff for his personal personal feelings and that really the only thing I could have a problem with desu

I can't say the way someone feels about a game is wrong or what emotions they might evoke, it's really just a more extreme version seeing something in media that reminds you of something in your own life that you might've not wanted to remember for whatever reason
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>>375774948
I think you are mixing Adachi's personality up with Akechi's there
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>>375771242
>Persona 5 put me back in the closet

If he's triggered just because the game isn't specifically pandering to him then maybe he should stay in his fucking closet.
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>>375775184
Reminder that this plays in japan where salarywomen actually still count as second class and are told to go and become mothers instead
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>>375771242
i agree. i wanted to fuck yuskes boy-pussy.
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>>375796719
>Has a voice/background/somewhat personality
He's still a self insert, the closest example of this kind would be Corrin from FE Fates, he has everything listed above.
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>>375771242
thats so gay. get fucked in the ass and die you faggot!
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>>375795758
We need more.
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>>375771242
Anyone who is openly not straight needs to be shot. Most people these day are literally incapable of keeping their fetishes to themselves.
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>>375776152
Not every country is like america or europe.
Japan's court system in particular is completely broken, Ace Attourney isn't as much of an exaggeration as people think
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>>375797271
>He is Japanese
>He is male
Whelp. I guess that means all the girls and non japanese can't play as Joker.
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When does persona 5 force you to be straight?
Or force you to have a romantic relationship at all?
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>>375797228
How's that different from the west that's infested with alt-righters
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>>375771476
Ffxv
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>>375797381
Heavily exaggerated and only something a sankaku complex retard would believe
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>>375797469
I don't think you know what the word infested means. Alt-righters aren't the majority by a mile.
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>>375771242
play western games instead
white are gay
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>>375771832
he truly is the best.
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>>375797410
Then that would just mean he's a self insert aimed at the male audience.
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It is kinda ironic how some of the best and most adorable characters in Persona 3, 4, and 5 are the male ones.

I'd love to see a romance option with Yusuke or Kanji. Hell, pull a P3P and give us a female character if you want to avoid homosexual shit. I'm down for that.
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>>375771690
>t. Older Japs find it degenerate since it means you aren't breeding.

this isnt true.

why 4chan or NeoFAG dont grow at all. have wondered those weebs have been parroting the same """""expert"""" faux stories for a decade
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>>375797721
Japanese male audience with the age of 17 who wear specs, has mousy hair and lanky body type. Yeah that is the self insert audience they are going after.
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All Persona threads should be banned from /v/.
They are shitty waifu threads.
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>>375771690
Everything leads to rape tho.

we should keep women indoors most of the time, and if they must go out, wear full-body coverings. This will reduce the amount of rapes.
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>>375797271
That's true, but these games have various 'levels' of self insert, expect a jrpg to actually let you do ANNNNYthing is shows quite a lack of experience in the medium.
Persona has always been story driven instead of player driven.
The guy who wrote the article is a big baby
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>>375798003
Yes Merkel
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>>375771242
I'm a fagfag, I would have loved to date Iwai but who actually fucking cares about this shit?

The internet was a mistake.
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>>375797878
I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. You make most of his choices if not all, aside from his small background and voice, he's a blank slate/avatar that you control.
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>>375789586

Wow is that the chick that got punched in the face in the Berkley thing?

Man what a shame.
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>>375772267

What? Women actively work full time jobs, get full competitive pay and are no longer expected to have children, though the very old demographics have an issue with this since nobody is breeding.

>>375771808

Except gay people are all over the media and they speak about gay issues, especially big stuff like anti-discrimination laws not being 'modern'. There are famous transsexuals and one of the biggest celebrities is a crossdresser that constantly talks about LGBTBBQ rights. Japan isn't "anti-gay" they're anti-"being an unproductive retard that rocks the boat too much".
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>>375798186
That is called role playing you moron. I make all the choices Geralt makes doesn't mean Geralt is a blank slate/avatar I control.
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>>375774046
One of the very few posts worth reading on /v/ these days.
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>>375773301
>While I may be 5'4, I identify as 7'4.
As expected of LGBTrash, delusional fucks
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>>375798332
>I make all the choices Geralt makes doesn't mean Geralt is a blank slate/avatar I control.
But the P5 protag has barely any personality, only a voice, and a small background. That's basically a blank slate, and you make all his decisions. You basically control him.
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WHY DON'T GAMES PANDER TO ME
DOES DOESN'T EVERYONE PANDER TO ME AND MY FEELINGS
WHAT? I'M NOT SELFISH FUCK YOU HOMOPHOBE
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>>375774076
If anything you're at least not born that way. Bunch of my friends got it up just fine for girls in HS and turned trans later. Who knows.
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>>375798605
but you dont decide if he wants to fuck dudes

you have your choice of several females or no one at all
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>>375798802
>comparing homo to trans
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>>375797838
I mean, it's the kinda shit they say on the news here
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>>375771242
Is the joke here that he would have liked to romance an unlovable retard of a character like Ryuji? I haven't played the game but I get the impression a lot of people wouldn't like to have a person like him around irl
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>>375798858
I'm talking about the decisions and choices available to you in game, you're still controlling him.
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I don't know what to think. Yeah no one deserves to be catered to but that's easy to say when you are catered to.

Most video game players are straight men but some genres, especially jrpgs, have a pretty big gay and female niche, so they probably could have got some extra sales.
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>>375798605
There is varying degrees of blank slate. I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "blank slate". Blank slate is used for games like DnD where you literally make your own past, attribute, character alignment etc. You are giving a blank slate and you fill in stuff yourself. Joker is not a blank slate, he has less characterisation than Geralt but he is still his own character.
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>>375771242
>it's an episode white tries to ruin another Japanese game with their gay shit
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>>375797469
In the west if you tell a woman that, you go to jail.
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>>375771242
Look at this dude.
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>>375799224
When I say blank slate, I'm referring to characters like Corrin where they have little personality, some background, and a voice, but they're purpose is still to be a self insert. I should've used a better term than "blank slate".
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>>375771476

Japs and /pol/ generally have the same views on things. Neither likes degeneracy or coloreds.
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naoto is still best girl

https://youtu.be/yjddVDmCltM?t=1m1s

adachi is still best villian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdlXekUHtGA
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>>375799442
looks like your typical beta antifia cuckhold.
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>>375799447
>they're purpose is still to be a self insert
And? So long as it is not a blank slate there will be limitation and restrictions since it is premade character. You cannot literally cater to everyone with a premade character.
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These degenerates need to be on fire.
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>>375799661
>And?
And the character is a self insert. That was my point. Nothing more nothing less.
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>>375799542
>Neither likes degeneracy
Nope
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>>375771968
Nope. It's absolutely rampant and normal. You're just not allowed to talk about it.
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>>375799776
Based on what? How do you self insert into someone who isn't your race, isn't your age and probably doesn't even look like you. Your only qualification is "because little history and you make his choices". That is retarded.
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>>375771242
Its even very strange that this game is taken so seriously or criticized this way in America

Literally nobody in Japan takes this game like that. Nobody even criticizes it except for those typical video game reviews because its nothing more than a typical otaku video game for otakus/casual otakus. Its basically treated the same way as Tales game.

Why only this Persona shit suddenly has become so relevant and a big deal of JP video games. Its exactly the same type game as Tales and Ys and shit in Japan. Its what Anime nerds enjoy and nothing else. I think Amerifats also would've enjoyed like that in the 90s. That's just it. Or these Amerifats or western journos might as well criticize Tales games the same way.
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I kinda get where he is coming from. Yeah they don't need to insert a gay love option, but when you take every option to reject every girl over and over maybe at least it would make sense if someone acknowledged you might be gay.

He wasn't so upset with the fact that he couldn't romance a boy but with the fact everyone assumed he was straight and kept forcing him into situations with girls he didn't want. Sure don't add a gay option but don't force the girls on him either.
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>>375779020
it's not necessary.
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>>375799910
People forget that Games are for having fun and enjoying yourself. In the West, games are SRS BZN. Or people like to pretend they are.
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>>375775347
If I was a woman, I'd be at Sandhurst right now.
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>>375776530
Neither do pedos if you're over 18.
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>>375799971
I am sure he was forced to pick up and game play it. So horrible the experience he was put through where he played a character which happens to like girls. Terrible terrible stuff. That is like me playing NBA2k17 and wondering why I can't play as manchester united and kick the ball.

Surprise surprise you don't have to play a game you don't like.
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>>375800126

Well that's basically saying the game is just a waifu dating sim and the whole drama jrpg storyline is just something extra.
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>>375799910
western journalists should play Takeshi's challenge
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>>375799881
A character doesn't have to look like you, or be your age, to be a self insert, look at FE Fates. I'm pretty sure the nobody on earth has dragon ears, dragon powers, and is a prince of two kingdoms. Yet the character is specifically made for being a self insert, that's the whole point of my unit in the newer FE games.
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>>375800204
Will you be surprised when I tell you that games can be made of multiple themes? If you think the game waifu dating sim is such a huge burden, you can stop playing the game. On the same note, you can hate the JRPG story so much you can choose to play a VN. No one is forcing you to like the game.
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>>375800312
You can choose to self-insert into a character that is up to you. But your self-insert doesn't override the pre-existing traits of the character put in by the developers. At the end of the day, it is still the story they want to tell and the character they want to write even if they gave you multiple choices along the way.
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>>375796858
Because we're fundamentally broken. I understand that. I want a family. I want to raise children. I want to grow old and just be viewed as another dude. The issue is I can't bring myself to trust or love women. For most of my life women have been the ones who've hurt me and I can't get over it. They abused me, they controlled me, they blamed me, and then they told me to forgive them before doing it all again. The female body makes me sick though, because it symbolizes every negative experience in my life.

But I understand this is not normal. I am tarnished and ruined on the inside. I would just end up hurting any woman I tried to form a relationship with, because of what the female form has become to me. I do not want to hurt people, but admitting I like dudes would hurt every family I know and would just invite more pain. I've prayed for half my life now that some rich asshole would get drunk, turn me into road pizza, and then be sued by my family and insure their financial happiness because that's the only way I think my life can be used that won't kill me anymore on the inside
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Werent Samurai a bunch of fags or some shit?
>>
>tfw no femc
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>>375771576
its the media posting it themselves for clicks
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>>375800493
Samurai were a lot of things, including literal asshole thugs.
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>>375771690
shido represents older japz
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>>375771242
Fucking retards
MOST OF THE POPULATION IS NOT FUCKING GAY
It would be fucking retarded to make the MC gay because its just one story about certain character, its not fucking skyrim where you are whoever the fuck you want.
And the chances of 2 guy friends in japan being both gay are close to fucking none
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>>375799971
>fag plays lonely NEET virgin game
>turns out it's a lonely NEET virgin game
Should have guessed that one.
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>>375800493
Samurai belieaved fucking women is not manly
modern Japanese also believe this
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>>375800493
Pre-western moral adoption of Japan basically said you could fuck around all you like until you had a station that frowned upon it.

You're some low level Samurai thug? Go get whatever booty you want. You're any sort of nobility? Well you either keep that shit on the downlow or don't go fucking around, you've got an image and pride to maintain so get yourself a classy wife.
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>>375773154
not how probability works

also video games dont need to be representative of everything
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>>375771576
They write it and post it here
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>>375800493
samurai, like ancient grace had the boy-pussy mentallity going on.

its not gay if you the one doing the fucking, its not something you Spock open about etc.
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>>375800493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan#Military_same-sex_love
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>>375771242
Thing doesn't pander to my demographic, thing baaad. Uga buga
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>>375800803
wat
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>>375800836
Greece, he's just to retarded to english.
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>>375800427
I never claimed a self insert overrides the pre- existing traits of a character. Like I said see Corrin, he has a few personality traits, a voice, and a background. But he's still left bland enough to where he can be a self insert (this what the devs intended). Just like the MC, he has some traits, a voice, and a background, but he's still left bland enough to where the player can self insert, you can even name him.
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>>375771242
can't understand these kind of people that are so weirdly repressed. I'm gay and I still could into the whole dating aspect of the game with no problem about there not being gay options.

I mean I still completed Iwai's SL just to see more of him but I still could appreciate a good waifu when there's one and that's why I dated Takemi.
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>>375800836
>>375800880
Also spoke
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>>375800450

Holy shit, anon.
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>>375795883
Please stop posting best girl. I just watched this anime and had my heart shattered into a million pieces at the shitty ending and how they had to beat best girl while she was down, force me to watch it happen and then cuck me with a shitty ending.
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>>375795617
He's predefined as a Japanese teen with a criminal record who goes onto become a mystical Phantom Thief, which is way bigger aspect of identity than sexual orientation

Like there's very little about the character you can change, you're railroaded on a path. Because the game expects you to empathize with the character, it's expected that we should be able to customize every aspect
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>>375779863
how do you even use degrees like women studies or LGBT something? this shit has no real life impact and women flock to those like niggers to free KFC chicken promotion
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>>375775191
You're right, you'd think they would just act like normal and not worry that their personality doesnt match up with a stereotype of their sex's behavior.

Problem is they're retarded and need oppression points so they label themselves because it's hip
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>>375780771
They have lesbians that aren't annoying and fabulous faggots.
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>>375771242
weebs, faggots, and all that trash should be gassed, period.
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>>375775990
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Who cares? Not like canon sexual orientation will stop artists
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>>375800923
Players can self insert into any character they want. Some characters are easier to be self-inserted into but some have more background. Whether you choose to do so or not it is up to you. Just cause 2 characters are similar doesn't mean the intention of the devs for both games are the same. P5 MC is easy to self insert into but it is clear he has personality traits that the devs meant to put in there.
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>>375780120
>>375774119
Those games were also made with 5 times the budget as Persona, by studios that are much, much larger
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>>375774076
Which side are the sjws suppose to be for if homo is a choice or born that way? I don't know which they side with
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>>375800939
If you wanna take any lesson from this, if you have kids, make sure to teach them how to be good people. Don't just give them money and don't just crush their spirit so you can go live the life you want. It'll bite you in the ass like it's biting my family, when my parents finally realized that they'd fucked up. For my Mom in that she's realizing that she crushed my spirit just so she'd have one less thing to worry about while trying to be an all star in her career, and for my Dad who gave up on trying to have a relationship with me because he didn't want to fight my Mom over me, and it was easier to just focus on my Sister who hated my Mom and all the kids he couched and took care of so he didn't have to deal with my Mom. Who needs a Son when you can just fill your life with a constant string of replacements that you can get the same satisfaction from but never need to get too involved?
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>>375771242
>the west can make better games than Japan anymore
>so we'll destroy them POLITICALLY
western gaming journalism, ladies and gentlemen
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b https://youtu.be/D3SPsH21j54
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>>375801237
I know that, but what I'm saying is it's clear to see that the devs were making the MC a self insert, like the character mentioned before. Either they intentionally made the character bland, which is bad writing, or it's made to be a self insert. And I'm pretty sure it's the latter given the things you can do with the character.
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>>375775990
Nah, in Japan that's largely true. Women in Japan get denied promotions because management expects them to get pregnant and quit the second they get married, hence a women aiming to climb the corporate ladder almost needs to remain chaste and single. Even the government had to step in and tell their corporate world to stop forcing women to choose between a career and marriage, it's not a coincidence that Japan has the highest percentage of unemployed housewives with college degrees

Why do you think Sae's shadow was a witch? Aka, a mythical figure that forms a pact with the devil for power at the cost of remaining loveless, childless, socially ostracized yet feared

YOU, DENSE, MOTHERFUCKER
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>>375771808
>>375772267
i saw the same bs and discussions on the Persona 5 LGBT thread on NeoFAG

funny how many sentimental LGBT weebs there and on this thread have" willingly" believed in total faux stories, willingly made what they themselves enjoy look like the worst corrupt shit ever on the earth, and willingly whined about fantasized Japan.

believe whatever you want to but let me say one thing, all you believe about Japan is fake stories. wasting your precious time believing in faux stories/fake news is such a productive thing to do, i guess.
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>>375778854
I thought you only get a sex scene with the redhead for female/female and if you're a male shepard all you get is tehee what a nice evening.

Because I was mad that I haven't got a sex scene
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>>375801803
>Little information = bad writing
What the fuck? They gave you the important tidbit of his past that triggered these events. That is enough. Do you need the devs to write an entire backstory for the MC? They gave you enough space to make your character or "self insert" for the social aspects but by large the MC is still his own character. More so in the dungeon crawling aspects or in the main story line. Like I said, developers made him easier to self-insert into. It is your choice if you want to or not. You cannot say because the Devs didn't give a full backstory, suddenly he was MEANT to be a self insert. Either pony up with the facts or shut up.
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>>375801879
>Even the government had to step in and tell their corporate world to stop forcing women to choose between a career and marriage
Doesn't the US have one of the most unhappy female populations in the world because women are expected to keep up both a career and marriage?
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>>375802331
You know families used to be able to survive with only one member of the family working. Guess who pushed for females to work? Guess what happens in 2018 where both parents have to work or the family starves.
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>>375801879
t. typical sentimental LGBT weeb from NEOFAG full of fake shit
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>>375802450
Japan has much the same issue.

Social evolution thus caused basically an entire generation of self-admitted gold diggers.
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>>375802139
The character has little to no personality, only a small amount of backstory, you make all his choices in game, YOU even name him. There's barely any character development for him aside from the choices YOU make. Like I said either that's bad writing or he's just a self insert, and the latter is seems pretty true. You claim this is to make him to easier to self insert to, yet you go on act like the devs didn't want that, make up your mind. Nobody said he isn't a character, I just said he's made to be a self insert, and you have to be stupid not to see that. There are tons of character with their own backstories, and small amount of personality, that are still made to be blank enough to be a self insert. This is one of then.
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Feminism was a mistake.

Not just Third-Wave "oh I don't like SJWs but I'm okay with moderate feminism" shit. All forms of it.
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hope person 6 doesnt get released in the Amerifucker land

all i hope is that
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>>375802331
the real problem is that it's usually necessary for both parents to work
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>>375802681
>you make all his choices in game
Wrong. Do you know what self insert means? It is when you put yourself into a character and the character becomes you. If a game is allowed to overwrite the "you" in the character, it no longer becomes a self insert. You are just roleplaying as a character and at certain portions of the game, you lose complete control of the character and is railroaded onto a certain path.

Stop using self insert when it is not really self inserting you inbred. If I am allowed to self insert then I should be allowed to tell Makoto to fuck off. Or be a flaming homo. I am not. Cause I am simply roleplaying as the Joker. I give him certain traits but the Joker is still his own character and I cannot overwrite his pre-existing trait.
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fuck Amerifatfucks

you fat shitheads have ruined videogames
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everyone else becomes happy when Ameifats ban japanese games from their stinky burger land and shut their smelly nasty mouths up
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>>375802765
>>375803072
>>375803194
Are you trying to pretend to not be the same person? Because it's not working with your broken English.
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Why is some buttblasted Yuro complaining about America when it has nothing to do with any current conversation?
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>>375803072
People like to complain way too much, and with the average attention span of americans dwindling, we have to create clickbait articles to get our "urgent" agenda across

It's all shlock, but that's just all the media is these days. It's sad, really.
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Amerifats are the worst thing ever happened in the video game history they are the serious plague, not anything of video games.
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