These are the 15 best soulsborne bosses, in no particular order

Maria's overrated trash. Corner and R1 spam her to death.

>>375717916
You're missing Ludwig m8.

>no flamelurker
>no maneaters

>No Ludwig
Shit list.

>>375718237
>>375718389
Stop with this meme, I love Bloodborne to death, even more than DaS3, but I just can't agree.

He started receiving so much praise only recently, and let's be honest, the only reason for that is the kino tier cinematic and muh memelight shitsword.

First phase honestly isn't that great or fun, his jump can be pretty bullshit and his attack animations don't have a particularly good design, we could have expected more from a great hunter turned into a horse abomination. Second phase is kinda bad. Yeah the sword looks cool but the fight becomes unengaging when the only thing you have to avoid is a one shot attack that he channels for 10 seconds. Literally the only boss that becomes 234632 times easier for the second phase.

His visual design is cool and it's by no means a bad boss fight, but he certainly isn't up there with gael and orphan just because he has a cool cinematic.

>>375717916
No particular order but these bosses are my personal 15
>Flamelurker
>Artorias
>Gwyn
>soul of cinder
>Midir
>ivory king
>princes
>Champion gundyr
>Gael
>gehrman
>Alonne
>Lady maria
>Sif
>Abyss watchers
>Tower knight

>>375717916
>Boss is bigger than the camera

Miyazaki should be BANNED from doing this

>>375717916
>abyss watchers
>twin princes
>good

>>375719172
Gwyn I can understand perfectly, Artorias, eh sure why not.
But Sif? The cinematic is absolutely nothing special and the fight itself is extremely poor mechanicaly.

Saving Sif in the DLC and fighting Manus with him was fantastic, but the Sif fight is slightly below average at best.

Otherwise good taste, except for the lack of Friede

>>375719661
>Saving Sif in the DLC and fighting Manus with him

what

>>375719915
Don't remember exactly, but at some point in the chasm of the abyss you see baby sif protected by Artorias shield. You could save him, and later summon him for Manus.

>>375720392
you also get a pretty cool new cutscene if you fight sif after the dlc

>>375719661
I found friede piss easy so i wasnt sure if id call it my favourite her last for yes but the first 2 parts i breezed through

>>375719052
>He started receiving so much praise only recently, and let's be honest, the only reason for that is the kino tier cinematic and muh memelight shitsword.
>recently
where the literal fuck have you been for the past 1.5 years

>>375719661
And i put sif in because it left a huge impact on me and the way i viewed the game

>>375719052
You're a fucking retard

in no order
>Ancient Dragon
>Pinwheel
>Prowling magus + congregation
>Twin Dragonriders
>asylum demon
>stray demon
>firesage demon

Artorias, O&S and the Lost Sinner deserve to be there.

>>375720963
sinner is just a shittier version of artorias
with some random bullshit NPC's thrown in to make it harder

>>375720710
>where the literal fuck have you been for the past 1.5 years
Shitposting and spouting memes like I've been doing for 10 years now.

And yes, people liked him as soon as the dlc came out, but at the time he wasn't even considered the best boss in toh, he was just pretty cool. The huge praise and the "best boss ever!!1!11" is only a few months old.

>>375721035
Most of the humanoid bosses in 2 onwards are shittier versions of Artorias. IMO the only solo humanoid boss that approaches the quality of Artorias is Pontiff. Pontiff >>> Abyss Watchers.

Why do ppl like the champ so much? Found him a pretty standard "big knight" enemy.

>>375721220
even he is a multi enemy boss

>>375717916
I'd bump off Friede and sub in Sir Allone.
First two phases of Friede being so bad may be fresher in my mind than that the initial hazing you go through to get to Allone though so I'm not actually that sure about it.

>>375719418
At least until the camera is sorted out.
As it is now it gets stuck on the boss and in corners and the lock-on is generally really poorly handled in terms of where the arbitrary lock-on point is set.

>>375720916
You forgot Stray Demon (DaS3)

>>375721035
Also lighting mechanic if it were anything but a lockon range nerf

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>>375721220
i don't get why you people love artorias so much

>>375719661
Friede was garbage like the whole DLC.

>>375721238
That roundhouse kick is sexy af desu
He was also my most difficult boss on dirst playthrough

>>375717916
>>375719052
>No ludwig
Shit tier contrarian attempt at a list.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but if the top 5 don't include Orphan AND Ludwig, then you're list is shit and you don't know what it is you're trying to talk about.

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I never finished the heap of shit that was dark souls 2 so this list is the best objectively:
Kos
Midir
nameless king
kalameet
Artorias
martyr logarius
Gwyn
meh I guess Gael

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>no ARTORIAS

>>375721154
That's some nice revisionist history there.

First few days after TOH was nothing but
> Litterally impossible
threads about Ludwig and
> post yfw
about the cutscene.

after the hype died down he was one of the most talked about bosses in the game and series. I browsed /v/, /bbg/ and /r/Bloodborne basically the entire time since then and Ludwig always comes out near the top of rankings in boss discussion.

>>375721238
His lore is cool and sad, the arena is cool, the setting is cool, the soundtrack is cool, his design is cool, his animations are cool as fuck and the fight is very well designed.

The way he constantly attacks you, leaves very few opening, is brutal and aggressive looking, kicks you when you get behind him, shoulder bashes you into oblivion, delays his attacks to bait you into rolling, doesn't allow you to heal, it's just fantastic. It really feels like two extremely skilled warriors at the peak of their talent fighting.

>no Demon's Souls bosses
fuck off secondary

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>>375721901
I actually would like to retract Gael, he wasn't a legendary boss.

>Flamelurker
>Ludwig
>Orphan
>Man Eaters
>O&S

Top five right there.

>>375721529
Honestly Artorias changed the way most bosses in the series afterwards were (except maybe bloodborne). Previous to that the majority of bosses were beasts or creatures, but Artorias perfected the concept that the Flamelurker started and gave you a tricky 1v1 with no environmental bullshit between you. Most of the challenging bosses in 2/3 are basically reimaginings of Artorias. If you played either 2 or 3 first then you won't see it since it's obviously less fluid and dynamic but at the time it was incredible.

>>375719540
here's your (you)

>>375721956
My favourite boss fight of ds3

>>375717916
>Gerhman
>literally nothing but the same attack over and over again
>last boss that is able to be stunned by pistol that easy
>Nameless King
>No Ludwig, the best multiphased boss in the franchise
Yeah take the (you), you so desperately crave for your shitty opinion and fuck off.

>>375721238
It's so unabashedly aggressive. If you actually fight him normal instead of spamming parry, it's a very intense fight.

>>375721529
>m-muh berzerk reference
>muh wolf knight
>muh Sif, i cri evri tiem
>but le epic abysswalker!!!!!
Underaged and easily impressed dasbabies, that's why.

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>>375722168
>muh
>muh
this isn't an argument and you know that

>>375722134
Best does not mean hardest. The buildup to Gerhman was very well done.

>>375722028
This nigga right here gets it right down to the last bit.
Flamelurker was the original gangster of the franchise, Ludwig and Orphan are pure Kino(besides being two of the best bossfights as well), Man eaters are still the best multi beast bosses(shit like gargoyes are just bad clones), and O&S are iconic as hell.

I don't know who you are, but you are a ray of hope in a thread started by a shit OP.

>>375719052
You still don't like him because he's popular.

>>375722272
I know anon, I was merely shitposting

>>375722451
well don't, you're encouraging the downfall of the website

sincerity is not a crime

>>375722336
What buildup? You mean the walk through the gate? Because there was nothing worth mentioning otherwise.
Or are you actually so gullible as to be taken aback by the
"it was him all along!!" scenario. Also
>not judging bosses on the presence in the fight alone
Pleb.
The best bosses are the bosses that are the best inbetween two points: walking into the area and delivering the killing blow.
Gerhman is shit in that regard.

>>375722337
I beat the maneaters on my first attempt, they weren't anything special. I've never understood why they're put on a pedestal.

>>375722438
But I never said I don't like him. I said he's pretty cool, just no way near the top, nothing to do with popularity.

I explained in my post why

>>375722553
>2 points that make a good boss fight
Piss off
>music
>setting
>Lore
>impact/challange
>design

>>375722028
Except the only good part of Ornstein and Smough is the intro cinematic and the one where Smough smashes Ornstein and does a 360 lightning flip.

The fight itself is very badly designed, and I don't say that in a meme way, the fight is really poorly designed both mechanically and visually.

Gwyn is the only trully great boss of DaS.

>>375723003
>The fight itself is very badly designed
It's not.

>>375722765
I think an important element that people underappreciate is a boss having subtle tells. Many either have none at all or glow 1-2 seconds before a move giving you way too much time to move. I love when they get the balance right, where you'll get fucked up unless you pick up on them but even then you cut it close. Pontiff was pretty good for it, and it's the whole reason O&S is 10/10

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>>375717916
>15 best bosses

Nope.

>Micolash
>Ornstein and Smough
>Friede
>Midir
>Ludwig
>Orphan
>Maneaters
>Ivory King
>Artorias
>Logarius
>Old Monk
>Soul of Cinder
>Nameless King
>Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne

>>375723136
>>Micolash
This boss has nothing going for it besides choice memes.

>>375721687
How exactly was it garbage? The only bad things were that it was a bit too short and had only one boss fight, Gravetender a shit.

The level design is easily when of the best, visually it's great, lore is great, soundtracks are great, enemy encounters are great, weapons are fucking great. I can't think of a single bad thing except the length and lmao 1 boss.

As for Friede, do you have arguments or did you just get assravaged by her invisible scythe attack?

>>375717916
Humanoid bosses are fucking boring and gay. I want an unpredictable monster to fight.

>>375723184
In NG+ it becomes the hardest boss in the game.

>>375723089
Not much is subtle anymore though so i base what makes the majority a good fight off these O&S i feel like were a complete fluke and from soft werent sure how to fit them into the game so they mashed them both together if im honest i think ds1 as a whole wasnt planned to get the reception it did hence miasaki bailing on the ds2 director

>>375723426
So does the Four Kings in DS1, that doesn't make it good

>>375723039
It kinda is, do you want me to explain why I think that? If you do, in return I'll ask you to write some arguments as to why you think I'm wrong, and not just sperg out with "ur wrong because I disagree with you".

You should have only one chance at fighting Gehrman and Moon Presence
Upon losing you would just recieve one tier worse ending
To compensate they should be sligjtly easier

>>375723269
It DRAGGED the first fight i feel wasnt necessary the final phase is good but it makes the first 2 phases an annoying grind to get passed because you just want to fight her at her best but this is just my opinion and i like the midir bossfight so i could just be completely mad

>>375723445
Nah, they're pretty much polar opposites, too much to be a coincidence. Large, slow, single hits with small AoE damage, paired with a boss your height who uses quick horizontal precision strikes. One is weak to fire, the other is weak to lightning. They just perfected it first time around so they couldn't improve much on the concept.

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>people like Friede
>bitch ass Lady Maria rehash and the boss regenerates 3 times to ensure its tedious

Worst dlc boss

What is with this "in no particular order" shit.

Here is the 10 best bosses in soulsborne IN ORDER list

10. Artorias
9. Maneater
8. Ornstein and Smough
7. Ludwig
6. Nameless king
5. Gehrman
4. Sister Friede
3. Lady Maria
2. Gael
1. Orphan of Kos

Are people still struggling with midir

>>375724450
May as well make friede and maria a single slot

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>>375722553
I meant more the fact that your character is just becoming a hunter. So you go out into the world realizing what that entails, then you see Gehrman rise out of his chair, and realize he's The First Hunter.

I'm not saying he's 10/10 the best boss ever but he was nicely done in my opinion. There's also alot of extra stuff on him you can find if you sniff around enough.

>the only thing that matters is the boss fight

alot of it yes, but not all of it

>>375723840
But she's better than Maria, just like Gael is better than Orphan. It's cool to see Maria lift herself in the air and explode with blood, it's cooler to see Friede jumping in the air and doing a 1080° noscope with blackflame eruption. It's cool to see Maria wake up and split her blade. It's cooler to see Friede enter the arena bare foot and rub her scythe with her fingers. It's cool to see Maria leave trails of fire, it's cooler to see Friede like trails of black fire 10 times bigger while jumping all over the place and covering the ground with ice. And I'm pretty sure Maria took it up the ass at some point in her life, while Friede remained pure and only slept with Yuria.

And I don't see the problem with 3 health bars when each one taken individually is small, she takes a lot of damage.

>>375724465
he still has 6 million hp

>>375724450
Switch Gael and Orphan and you have pretty decent taste.

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>>375724450
Friede is an annoying fight that belonged in bloodborne

>>375724723
He's a dragon he's supposed to be hard to kill

>>375724941
yes he's hard to kill therefore people struggle with him

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In what way is Gwyn a good fight, mechanically speaking?

>>375725048
His parry could be fixed but the fight suits him a mad husk attacking with nothing to lose

>>375725048

People saying Gwyn or Pontiff have given themselves lobotomies to forget parrying exists.

>>375725048
He is not. Dark Souls 1 bosses are all pathetic with Havel poisetanking.

>>375725310
Ds1 is a breeze after O&S

>>375725383
or after Pinwheel

lol 20 estus

>>375725212
This extends to Orphan, Maria, Gehrmann and the Champ as well though.

>>375719661
>get Sif low
>he's limping around
Any other boss with this mechanic? I do not think so you fucking mongoloid

>>375724692
Literally none of those things explain why they are better fights. You didn't even disprove that she's just Maria with 3 health bars and instakills.

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>>375725563

>get boss low
>he starts running around like a retarded asshole.

>>375725563
Gehrman

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>>375725492
Yesssss

Rank the Das1 bosses because I see them neglected a lot in these threads.
I'm gonna guess that O&S, Artorias, and Manus are most peoples top 3.

>>375725779
Haven't played Bloodborne, but seems like something I should do

Just need to buy me a gamestation 4

>>375725563
Old demon king has a similar near death animation i love details like that

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>>375725563
>Get Boss low
>He throws up on you

As much as I disliked Dark Souls 2, Raime is hands down my favorite boss fight in souls. It took me the most attempts and was incredibly satisfying when I finally beat him.

>>375725978
>play the shitty game
>throw up on your computer

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Game where you play as Mildred hunting fakeass chosen undead spinoff when?

>>375725659
>You didn't even disprove that she's just Maria with 3 health bars and instakills.

But she IS Maria, just improved. It's simple, Maria is fantastic in every aspect, (and I'm literally about to buy a PSquadruple just to replay Bloodborne because this thread made me horny for BB), but Friede is just better.

What Maria does, Friede does it slightly better, therefore she's the better boss fight, it's not rocket science. Friede is also cuter than Maria, and not a slut, so bonus points.

>>375725563
There are a good dozen of Bossesin Souls games that change to a second stage on a certain threshhold.
Actually, if i'm not mistaken,starting with DS2 every boss had that in some way or another.

>>375726070
>Friede is also cuter than Maria
nigga please

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>Second phase is easier than first phase

>>375721529
And faggots want DS1 poise back. Fucking disgusting

>>375725978

Cutest boss in the series.

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>>375717916
>No Artorias
>No Ornstein and Smough
>No Fume Knight
>No Ludwig

Shit list anon

>>375726279
Fume is Raime

>>375726117
>get boss low
>he gets a larger moveset
WOW, like if I am sick I can all of a sudden lift 200 lbs when deadlifting.
Really activates my almonds

>>375717916
My 5 favs from each game

No particular order

>Demons Souls
Tower Knight
Penetrator
False King Allant
Maneater
Vanguard (Yeah i know no Flamelurker)

>Dark Souls 1
Manus
Artorias
O&S
Centipede Demon
Gwyn

>Dark Souls 2
Old Dragonslayer
Smelter Demon
Darklurker
Sir Alonne
Fume Knight

>Dark Souls 3
Pontiff Sulyvahn
High Lord Wolnir
Dancer Of The Boreal Valley
Champion Gundyr
Soul Of Cinder

>>375726117
It's only really DaS3 that had that for just about every boss because of scrapped mechanics.
DaS2 didn't have it for many bosses that I can remember.

>>375726353
Bosses in their second stage aren't sick, they get enraged because some faggot dressed like a clown keeps circling around them and stab them in the ass with his longsword.

>>375726212
it's not sifs fault

>>375725869
Best to worst

Artorias
Gwyn
O&S
Manus
Sif
Queelag
Seath
Pricilla
4 kings
Golem
Open heart surgery dragon
Gwyndolin
Nito
Taurus demon
Gargoyle
Centipede
Mr discharge
The demon reskins
Moonlight butterfly
Bed of chaos

>>375717916

>no smores and oreoes

baka desu senpai

>>375726673
>Beat someone to a pulp, they just get mad and start retaliating harder.
REALLY MAKES YOUR ALMONDS ACTIVATE!

>>375726070
Still not telling me how she's an improvement.

>>375725869
Gwyn is the only truly nice boss. Artorias can be accepted even tho I don't understand the love for him. And that's it.

Tbh DaS bosses are pure shit gameplay wise, they just have a very nice visual design and are impressive the first time you see them (like how cool was it to see Gaping Anus cutscene the first time, but then have a fight that can't be considered anything other than pathetic). DaS spent the entire budget on nice world design and interconnectivity (and it was enough only for 1/3 of the game lmao), every other aspect is seriously lacking.

And people only like Ornstein and Smough because they aren't as bad as every other boss, had a cool cinematic, and retards have a hard time dealing with two enemies even tho Smough is always far behind so you're actually fighting just Ornstein. And when you stop panicking, you notice that once again, the only good thing they have going for them is the cutscene and their armor design.

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>>375726573
I haven't played DS2 in ages because i don't like it that much but i'm struggling to remember which haven't.Some have just some goofy shit like the Giant ripping his arm off, others change their entire moveset like the Fume Knight.

>>375726763
I missed the black dragon because i actually forgot to fight him when i had the dlc and i forgot to put him in the list

>>375722619

Because most people didn't and when the second one comes it's a genuinely unnerving moment of panic.

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>>375726148
>implying a dead sickdark emo turboslut with cum drenched clothes and a repressed masochist fetish is cuter than pic related

Guys, Yesterday I started to play DeS and i defeated the first boss i guess? and now i feel no motivation to go on on the game. I am afraid im missing something or doing something wrong because there isn't anything that tells me what to do. I am afraid of moving on and then get killed because i will loose all souls i have gathered and i don't want to go back to the nexus because then i will have to fight all my way trough again. How do i loose this fear of dying and start getting gud?

>>375727483
>unsheathes scythe
>nothing personal kid

The Friede fight is TOP TEN ANIME FIGHTS-tier terrible.

>>375727618
try asking reddit

>>375727483
post feet

>>375717916
>Orphan of Kosm
>Maria

Goddamn, these were fun.

Also just because Gascoigne was an early boss doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a place on this list.

>>375727618
Break through the wall to the cult

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>>375727810

>>375727618
You have to realise that losing souls in those games is nothing. Sure you can get a bit mad when you lose a shitload of souls because you rolled off a cliff, but remember that you can beat those games without leveling at all.

Souls are just a bonus. Also know that you have a shitload of healing items, remember to play it slow instead of rushing all over the place, don't spam attack enemies and boss, instead wait for their attack, block, hit them, repeat.

And very soon you'll know how to clear and progress through areas faster, you'll understand that if you die you don't have to kill every enemy again, you can just run and take your souls back in less than a minute.

Just go, you'll die, you'll learn from your mistakes, and you won't die anymore, first playthrough is always the most fun, just play the game and stuff giving a fuck.

>>375727618

>how do I not be an incredible faggot?

I can at least tell you that there isn't anything to miss.

>>375728423
>>375727858
Thanks for the advice, I'll try to not give a fuck and just keep playing. I'll do my best to finish this game on a blind run

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>>375727847
How can cumpdumps such as Maria even compete?

>>375720916

>le funny guy XD

>>375728716
What I may have to mention tho, is to spend your souls when you can, don't walk around with souls if you don't have to. Upgrade your weapons, use a nice shield, and be able to fast roll.

>>375729408
your contribution to the thread was even worse

think twice before posting

>>375721529
abusing poise like that


thank god they got rid of this ridiculous bullshit in DS3, hyperarmor is all we need

>>375717916

>Mirror Knight

Why though? Because he can summon players? The fight itself is nothing special.

>>375729571
Ive never had a player summoned i assumed they were npcs if he does summon players how do you join

>>375729693

Something about putting down signs in the hallway leading up to the battle. Might also be NG+ related.

>>375717916
>Notice what game is missing?
Yes. Variety in both bosses and in music. Later games missed the point that Demon's Souls went with by sticking with nothing but cookie cutter humanoids. Current games would never have a boss like Fool's Idol because it isn't straightfoward enough.

>>375729571
Because his armor design is amazing, the arena/soundtrack is nice, his leap attack looks cool, and the concept of summoning players/NPC with his mirror shield is nice.

>>375725563
>boss about to die actually looks the part
Yeah sure 10/10 let's forget the actual fight itself is completely average. If it wasn't for the limp you'd never remember him at all.

>>375717916
>remembering all of these names

I can put a face to 6 of these names and I've played every Soulsborne game and DLC except for the latest DS3 DLC

>>375730583
You may have early onset Alzheimers then

>>375726763
So im guessing everyone agrees?

@375730717
you put artorias first so nobody bothered replying

>>375730092
>Later games missed the point that Demon's Souls went with
Because they are different games?
That's like complaining that later games don't use the 1-1/1-2/1-3/2-1/2-1/etc... level approach just because DeS does it.

The problem with DeS bosses is that most of them (haven't finished it yet) are gimmicks. They sure look cool, but mechanically speaking it's kinda poor.

Exemple, Tower Knight. Cool ass cinematic, then hit his legs for no damage until he falls and takes tons of damage. Phalanx? Cool as fuck cinematic, then a completely meh fight were you just run in circles around him throwing fire bombs then he takes increased damage if you hit him were he isn't protected by blobs.

>>375717916
>all those DS3 bosses
>literally anything from DS2
>nothing from DeS
>nothing from DS1
>no ludwig
OP is a faggot

>>375730583
>I have less memory than an goldfish therefore everyone should be like me

I remember the name of a boss, his design, moveset, quite often his soundtrack, and the path leading to his arena from the first time.

>>375731021
>lists literally the first two bosses

how far into the game are you exactly?

>>375717916
All those DS2 bosses (with the exception of Raime maybe) stand out because of how shit the rest of the bosses are.
They would be considered trash tier if they were inserted in any of the other games.

>>375721529
Yeah I can imagine why you don't like a boss when you just fucking abuse maximum poise.

>>375719661
you really sound like a mouth breathing autist

I just want to say that ivory king is my favorite souls boss ever.

>>375731095
>all those DS3 bosses
Not my fault DaS3 has the best bosses
>literally anything from DS2
>le DaS2 is bad and EVERYTHING in it is bad. why you ask? I don't know, my favorite youtuber said so
Sinh, Raime, Ivory King and Velstadt are better than every DaS boss
>nothing from DeS
I prefer actual gameplay and mechanically rich bosses over gimmick bosses caused by a lack of budget
>nothing from DS1
Because this is a list of the 15 best bosses, and those 15 bosses happen to be in the last 3 games
>no ludwig
Read the thread, I explain why I do not think he has his place at the top. A cool cinematic and a memelight shitsword doesn't make a good boss.

>>375725563
>m-mah emotional boss fight

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>>375731758
>the only people who hate DS2 are people who watch youtubers say so

Or you know, literally anyone who played it expecting a good fucking game

>>375731225
that's an impressive memory anon.

You're pretty good.

>Mirror Knight
He fucking mediocre. Just cause hes top 5 of das2 doesn't make him any good

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>>375719052
t. casul

>>375731225
you read what I said as an insult, but I was remarking on a flaw in my own memory.

For some reason the bosses and levels of DS2 and DS3 and even some of Bloodborne blur together for me. Maybe because I've only played them once and all of them around the same time.

>>375726550
>DeS
Maiden Astrea
Maneaters
Towe Knight
Allant
Old Monk

>DaS
O&S
4K
Artorious
Kalameet
Manus

>DaS2
Darklurker
Executioner's Chariot
Mirror Knight
Ivory King
Fume Knight

>BB
Ludwig
Gherman
Orphan
Rom
Amygdala

>DaS3
Twin Princes
Soul of Cinder
Nameless
Aldritch
Fiede

Haven't played last DLC yet so I don't know how dragon and literal who rank.

>>375731269
No idea, I play it while extremely high once every 2 months for an hour or less because I don't have sound when I plug the PS3 on my pc monitor, and those 2 bosses were done while I was playing on a tv, so I had sound and they left a bigger impression.

I did tower knight, 5-1 for sure, tower of latria, foul's idol, levels that had a somewhat blighttown/gutter vibe, 2 or 3 levels from the second world with the miners and I honestly don't know what else.

I really want to play it, but don't want to play it without sound, so I play it from time to time while very intoxicated hoping to not remember much for when I can play it properly with sound.
I'm not autistic.

>>375717916
>no demon's souls bosses
Faggot.

Maiden Astraea is one of the best boss fights in the series.

>>375721529
Is this what using Havel's is really like? I never used the ultra heavy armors. This is some turboscrubmode shit.

>>375723426
The fuck? How?

>>375732792
yes
it's the main strat for 4 kings on higher new games

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>>375726070
>Friede is also cuter than Maria, and not a slut, so bonus points.
>>375727483
Nigger I will fucking cut you.

>>375725978
Why does this rat look more like a dog or a wolf than a rat?

>>375726236
No, Sif is cuter

>>375733028
But I beat them in light armor with a katana and a halberd all the way up to NG++++

>>375731862
But when you leave the memes alone and stop trying to fit in an anonymous image board, you realise that objectively speaking DaSII is just as good and often better than DaS.

As I already said, the ONLY things DaS does great is world design/level connectivity and boss visual design, and only for 1/3 of the game. DaS2 has more and better bosses, a trillion more builds, best pvp if you care about that, best hub, best souls girl, better DLC, better gameplay, better menus, bonfire ascetics, NPC like Aldia and Vendrick have some of the best dialogues in a souls game, dialogues are overhaul better written, it's the only one to have a good NG+, and even if vanilla it doesn't reach the highest points of DaS like undead burg, the game is consistantly nice while DaS goes to shit after the second bell since they blew all their budget on world design. The DLC however curbstomp even the highest points of DaS.

But yeah, let's pretend like it's the worst thing ever just because the world isn't tighly built together (even tho DaS is the only one to do that), and because some levels have extremely poor texturing and geometry (even tho graphics apparently don't matter, unless of course it's a game we're supposed to hate).

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>>375731862
I fucking hated it
but having all soulsborne plats mattered more

>>375733370
that's great, senpai

>>375721529
>MMO combat

Poise really was the worst

My personal top 5 are O+S, Sulyvahn, Alonne, Gael, Fume Knight
>muh orphan muh ludwig
I don't play Cuckborne sorry I only play the real Souls games.

>>375732315
>you read what I said as an insult, but I was remarking on a flaw in my own memory.
Oh forgive me anon, I was left with the impression that you meant something like "wow these games were so bad that's I just couldn't be bothered to remember them".

>Maybe because I've only played them once and all of them around the same time.
This makes sense. I played DaS2, DaS3 and BB between 7 and 14 times each, finished DaS once and a half, and everything past the second bell is a blur.

Abyss watchers and really every other ds3 boss excluding nameless king is fucking shit. Endlessly chainable rolls means you dont have to time your dodges and estus is so fast with so many charges you can trade blows and then spam roll and heal until theyre dead with no worries until ng++

the sequels are garbage why do so many of you have such retarded shitty opinions

>yfw "What, still here?

>>375733061
Doll a shit and worst souls girl.
First because memeden in black, bear seek seek lest and firefu keeper are cuter, and second, because Gehrman literally tells you she's a cumdump, and she's modeled after Maria which was also one.

Turbosluts aren't cute.

>>375733661
Thanks senpai.

>>375722765
>music
>setting
>Lore
>impact/challange
>design
All of which, except for lore, are inbetween those two points you fucking idiot. And lore is the least important part of it.

Nah nigga.
>Gael
>Sir Alonne
>False King
>Maneaters
>Champ Gundyr
>Artorias of the Abyss
>Nameless King
>Gehrman
>Sif
>Ivory King
>Kalameet
>Mirror Knight
>Ornstein and Smough
>Gwyn
>Manus

>>375734097
he's talking about the series

>>375734091
bosses in ds3 delay their attacks to catch panic rolls
and in ds1 you don't even need to roll, just put on heavy armor, press attack and chug estus when needed

>>375718353
Someone post the comic of the maneaters wearing sports jackets, drinking martinis and grinding up against the slayer of demons

>>375723529
>It kinda is, do you want me to explain why I think that?
Its not, but I don't want your opinion either. You already stated your shit opinion
>poorly designed both mechanically and visually.
Which is bs. Your bs, but not bs other people have to sign up to. Both mechanically and visually its one of the best fights.

>>375734097
>yfw screen fades to black The blood of the Dark Soul
>yfw he starts shooting his crossbow while doing a slowmo airflip with lightning strikes in the distance
>yfw you see the gigantic hole in his chest
>yfw second part of the OST kicks in when he takes his crossbow
>yfw how gracious his cape is

>>375734375
>bosses in ds3 delay their attacks to catch panic rolls
Except panic rolling works on basically everything except shit that causes an explosion like nameless king attacks. Why do you think every fucking person and every fucking bloodstain you see is just spam roll? If you're best option at all times is to just spam roll then the game sucks end of fucking story

>Best to worst DaS3

Slave Knight Gael
Abyss Watchers
Dragonslayer Armor
Soul of Cinder
Twin Princes
Dancer
Pontiff Sulayvahn
Nameless King
Freide
Vordt
Champion Gundyr
Aldrich
Crystal Sage
Ocerios
Iudex Gundyr
Demon Prince
High Lord Wolnir
Old Demon King
Champion's Gravetender
Deacons of the Deep
Spear of the Church
Darkeater Midir
Yhorm
Curse-Rotten Greatwood
Ancient Wyvern

>>375727618
Keep playing, not much to it really. Be observant, play cautiously, take in your surroundings. By the end of the game single enemies will drop more souls that entire early areas, it´s not a big deal if you lose some. First few areas of your first souls game are probably the toughest in the entire series, as little things start to click with you and become second nature you will start breezing through the games.

>>375717916
This ain't fair for us poor fags
Most of these bosses are from the dlc
Also
A hard boss dosen't mean its a good boss fight

>Demon's Souls
Hey this game is actually really fucking good, so simple yet so complicated at the same time. 10/10 what a breath of fresh air, instant classic

>Dark Souls
Wait a minute wtf this game is really fucking good too! How is this level of detail possible? This interconnected world, so desolate yet so vibrant at the same time, is your one and only adversary and it just fills you with a great sense of adventure. 10/10 GOTY, I could not possibly imagine a w

>Abyss Watchers
>Good Boss
lmao this is as big a meme as ds1 second half

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>>375725978
>get the area he resides in to +8 in ng and be in the rat covn
>mfw people are forced to deal with +8 enemies in ng while im throwing shit at them

>>375734737
I agree almost entirely, but you should put Friede second and Champ Gundyr third.

>>375725212
Fighting Pontiff without using parries is one of the best fights in the whole series. It feels ridiculously rewarding.

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>>375717916
>Velstadt
Swap him for Dancer

Also where the fuck is Ludwig? Or Flamelurker? Or False King? Or Artorias?

DeS = DaS = BB > DS3 >>>> DS2

This is the patrician taste, people who didn't play every soulsborne title on release need not apply.

>>375735585
the uncontestable truth

>>375735585
DaS = BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

>>375734889
>This ain't fair for us poor fags
>Most of these bosses are from the dlc
Pirate it.
>A hard boss dosen't mean its a good boss fight
Never said it did, only retards think that. I died 5 times to Gael, died like 30 times to Gwyn, and yet I think Gael is by far the best one while Gwyn doesn't even make top 15.

Also, difficulty is subjective and some bosses are easier/harder for everyone, we all have different playstyles. Beat Logarius first try while he's considered hard, beast Maria second try, Ornstein and Smough third try with a shit unupgraded weapon in my first playthrough, and yet I died like 15 times to Moonlight Butterfly, 10 times to 4kings and 20 times to Nito. I also NEVER learned how to parry and can't parry the first fucking hollow in undead asylum, even with a buckler.

Beat Ebrietas first try while underleveled, but somehow managed to die to the witches.

>>375735585
Yup, but DS3 is equal to the top 3 imo. Its the most complete upon release and has the best vanilla boss roster.

>>375736206
>no roll recovery animation
Ds3 is lucky ds2 is a thing to make it look slightly better cause its shit

>>375726550

>Demon's Souls
Flamelurker (literally my git gud cherry, I still remember it so vividly)
Penetrator
Storm King
Old King Allant
Fool's Idol (only because 3-1 is my absolute favourite level)

>Dark Souls
Gwyn
O&S
Manus
Artorias
Priscilla

>Dark Souls 2
I only remember Demon of Song because I liked his design, I consider the game to be shit in many aspects so I don't remember it at all.

>Dark Souls 3
Soul of Cinder
Gael
Midir
Oceiros
Lorian & Lothric

All of them had godly OSTs

>Bloodborne
Ludwig (kino)
Maria
Gehrman
Gascoigne
Orphan

>>375736407
Demon's Souls did the same thing, didn't it?

>>375735585
>>375735714
>>375735862
No, only valid order is:
BB=DaS3>>>>>>>>>>>>>DeS=Sotfs>DaS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS2

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>>375736206
>entire game is a linear hallway
>magic is a joke
>split damage weapons are garbage
>anything that isn't a greatshield is torn apart by bosses
>rolls have very little stamina cost and are spammable
But nah, there were some totally epic boss fights, it's fine.

>>375736206
I can accept this too, it's just that I think DS3 is a bit too "safe" to be considered a classic like the other 3. It's simply an ode to the souls series, it's absolutely fantastic for 1 playthrough just so you can have closure but it doesn't take too many steps forward.

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>>375736836
>>entire game is a linear hallway
Demon's Souls is 5 of these. What matters is the level design. World design in DaS3 is bleh but the level design is on point.
>split damage weapons are garbage
Welcome to every fucking Souls game at launch
>anything that isn't a greatshield is torn apart by bosses
If you're bad, sure. Are you fucking seriously saying you can't beat the bosses without a greatshield?
>rolls have very little stamina cost and are spammable
Again, Demon's.

Fuck off dude, you're not going to convince me that Dark Souls 3 is some garbage fucking game. I remember the days of vanilla DaS1 and TWOP+Fog Ring, so you can peddle your shit on someone else.

>>375736662
shit taste alert

>>375737067
I like Dark Souls 3 a lot, but it's the game I've spent the least time with. I'm just saying that the game's excellent bosses doesn't make up for it's other shortcomings. I dislike how shields are kind of useless and you are incentivized to play the game like it's bloodborne-lite.

>>375736836
>entire game is a linear hallway
Yes, and when you take levels individually they completely obliterate every other soulsborne game and are way more enjoyable to play through. It's a different approach, and some people don't give a shit about world interconnectivity. Also DaS is the only one to be interconnected like that, it's not like it's a defining feature in those games.
>magic is a joke
No it's not, it never was. It's just that like poise, it got balanced and not as braindead OP like it used to be. Same goes for every build actually, they all work great and every weapon is viable and satisfying to use.
>split damage weapons are garbage
But they are not.
>anything that isn't a greatshield is torn apart by bosses
Only shields I use are the lightest 100% block shields, or two handed weapons/dual wielding. Never used a greatshield, you're just bad and can't manage your stamina
>rolls have very little stamina cost and are spammable
You kinda answered your question. Rolls are spammable because enemy and bosses obliterate your stamina while blocking. Also because enemies/bosses are smarter, can't be ezmode tanked with memeshit havel builds, are way more aggressive, deal way more damage and can delay their attacks to bait you into rolling.

DaStards are truly dumb as shit.

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>>375738089
Faith got crazy buffed in the latest DLC and Pyromancy has always been good too. Sorcery is just kinda meh until lategame.

>>375737710
How are shields useless?
A 100% block shield will block 100% of the damage, just like in every other game.

>and you are incentivized to play the game like it's bloodborne-lite.
They made every weapon viable and sped up the game I bit, but it still keeps the core of DaS. Now everything is fun to play, it's the only souls game where I didn't play only with straightsword+shield. Gigantic weapons are finally satisfying to use and viable both in pvp and pve, magic looks gorgeous and it's so satisfying to annihilate someone, and most weapon arts are so cool you want to upgrade every weapon to try them out.

But shields are still the easiest way to finish the game.

>>375738089
I'm willing to concede that a lot of my points were rather subjective but I stand by the fact that split damage weapons are shit. The way that damage calculation in 3 works means you have to go through both flat and percentile reduction for each damage type. The one saving grace for split damage is that backstabs and ripostes ignore defences.

>>375722765
>Lore
?????????

>>375733595
Your game is shit bro, move on

>>375734527
It doesn't. There are many bosses who have delayed attacks specifically to avoid panic rolls.

The combat is also faster, so you need to roll more, but still need to time when you actually roll.

If you don't like it, play a different fucking series

>>375737710
Shields are extremely good in DS3.

Just because they added in shieldbashes to stop shieldbabbies from literally blocking everything in the game and dodging nothing doesn't mean they're useless

>not playing souls game 2h and rolling all the time since DeS
>people were waiting for bloodborne to drop their ez mode crutch
>people for some reason complain that DaS3 encourages this playstyle too
Where do you think the rolling memes with 'Dark Souls' slapped on them came from? The sword and board playstyle is only encouraged by newshit redditor cucks, it was always considered a shame to use shields in souls games, it was a telltale sign of a "noob"

>>375739090
To me only people who used Great Shields were faggots.

Occasionally blocking is fine, but you can tell one someone blocks AND ONLY blocks since they can't dodge shit

>>375738729
I find it funny that DaStards never have any arguments as to why it's a bad game.
Dark Souls 3 is objectively miles above DaS in every aspect except world design, and there's literally nothing you can do about it

>>375739813
as to why DS2 is a bad game? I can't tell which game you're defending here

>>375738572
I like you anon. I'll admit that I really don't know much about split damage weapons, I just noticed that dancer's blade and especially Friede's scythe are fucking god tier.

Don't know if that's what you mean by split damage or if you're refering to infusions, in which case you may be right, I never infused in any game.

>>375719052
>kino tier cinematic and muh memelight shitsword
It's a very effective scene on top of a very solid boss fight, so what the fuck is your shitty problam, you fucking contrarian?

>>375740005
Works for both games. DaS3 is miles above DaS, and sotfs is slightly higher.

Only game worse than DaS is vanilla DaS2.

>>375740235
Scholar is more or less the same as DS2. They're both leagues below DS1. I'll give you that DS3 is a great game and better than DS1 though

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Soul of Cinder is the best boss fight in the series, hands down

>>375740085
Why do you have to be so aggressive, especially considering the fact that I clearly said he's a good boss fight, and explained why I don't think he's god tier.

In short, cinematics are great, but first phase is nothing special and could have been done way better, and second phase can be summarized to "avoid the oneshot slam that he channels for 10 seconds", mechanically speaking it's pretty meh. I never used this word and get mad when people use it, but second phase is one of the only parts in those game I can say without shame is "boring".

Why would the second phase of a boss fight be so much easier and mechanically poor compared to the first?

I beat Ludwig on my 254th try.

>>375740413
Ok anon, thank you, at least we reached a middle ground. I'll also admit that if what someone expected from DaS2 was the same attention to world design, more monster bosses instead of humanoids, ragdoll, no downgrade and less shit graphics with abysmal texturing and less polygons than a N64 game, I can perfectly understand that they don't like it.


But what I don't agree at all is sotfs being the same as DaS2. Even if both are worse than DaS, sotfs is miles above DaS2. They changed a shitload of things that have a huge impact, most item placement, enemy placement, different enemies in different locations (how cool were the heide knight in heide?), many item descriptions were changed, new NPC, new lore, new bosses, new ending, areas have been balanced, NPC placement, general bugfixes, tweaks and balancing, better graphics, and tons of things I'm forgetting.

>>375740608
No, he's pretty cool and a great final boss, especially when Gwyn's theme and movesets kick in, but he's nothing compared to Gael, Friede or Princes for exemple.

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>>375726550
>My top 10 off the top of my head (In no order)
False King Allant
Maiden Astrea
Sihn
Kalameet
Manus
Nameless King
Gherman
O&S
Artorious
Fiede

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>>375741370
>actual thought out response
This is new.

To be honest I beat DS2 first then bought Scholar about a year after. The problem I had was that I couldn't get very far past Iron Keep without giving up the game again.

The same issues that I hate about DS2 are still present with Scholar. I hate the combat, the graphics are still really, really really bad (and i'm always playing games on low graphics to begin with). The weapons feel like styrofoam, and it's floaty as fuck. There's a billion little nitpicks that I could go on about forever, but the combat to me is just unredeemable.

I mean sure maybe Scholar adds on alot to DS2, but it just doesn't really matter to me because the core of it is still broken. I WANTED DS2 to be great, because then i'd have even more souls content to play over 9000 times, but I just can't stomach this one past 1 NG

On top of all this if you say this to a DS2 fag they get all butthurt and immediately start shitposting, which exacerbates the issue immensely

>>375717916

>Mirror Knight
>Velstadt

what the fuck am I reading. No DaS2 base game bosses belong on these lists.

>No Ludwig
>Fucking Abyss Watchers
>FUCKING FRIEDE AND MARIA

awful

>>375741481
>Gael
I never liked Gael honestly. He was a decent fight and all but I was severely let down by having a literal who as the final boss we're ever going to beat in the series

>but it's poetry because you're a nobody too!
No

>>375740610
Your sister was nothing special and sow as your mother, but the boss fight was pretty enjoyable.

>>375717916
ITS KOS NOT KOSM FUCKING MENSIS SHITS

>>375741907
Ironically scholar upgraded the graphics ten fold but they're still fucking ugly compared to DS1. I don't know how to explain it but they just look like shit, especially how the character model seems to pop out when compared to the rest of the environment.

>>375717916
>Raime
>good
enough with this meme. It is just a stupid damage sponge, boring as fuck to fight.

>>375742486
I noticed absolutely no difference and I quit around Iron Keep

>>375721529
>all the assravaged replies

thanks for this, gonna post it whenever DaSbabbies get uppity

>Gael is always a favorite boss
Literally how, I used havel's shield naked and it was the easiest fight in the dlc, what made him so good?

>>375742562
>larger moveset then anything in the game but DarkLurker
>Boring
No
>Damage sponge
Did you build a shit build? I just two handed my mace and he went down in 3-4 minutes. Second time with a bastard sword 1 handed with a shield same kinda time.

Hell each time you start the fight/when he powers up you get a huge chunk. The fight might as well start with him missing 1/6th of his life.

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>>375742805
>uses a great shield and says anything about difficulty

did you summon a few buds too?

>>375742158
Let's say we remove Mirror Knigh and Velstadt, you're telling me you don't consider Raime, Ivory and Sinh among the best?

>No Ludwig
I explained 4 times in this thread why I think that, but ok, I'll be nice and replace Mirror Knight with him
>Fucking Abyss Watchers
Great cutscenes, one of the best soundtracks, and those animations are pure porn for your eyes. The lore is great and the additional watchers spawning is a great gimmick.
>FUCKING FRIEDE AND MARIA
Any arguments as to why they are bad? They are fantastic in every aspect and are a joy to play against.

Was it just me that found Friede easy? Beat her on my second attempt, did I just get lucky? I died more to the puppy and champion

>>375726763
Where's Capra, Sanctuary Guardian and Pinwheel?

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>>375742927

>>375742626
It was mostly lighting upgrades and added blur, with some minor texture upgrades.

The changes are more noticeable in some areas then others.

>>375732891
Recently played through BB ng+, I had 50 vitality when I fought him, and he could easily twoshot me with his augur. Also since a patch made it possible to parry with augur like you would with a gun, Micolash is really good at twoshotting if you just swing wildly.

>>375717916
>Sully

HEH

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>>375721529

>Being over leveled and wearing heavy armor defense makes the boss fight easier

No fucking shit.

>>375743442
When I beat him I had to dodge literally every augur. One hit and it's basically death unless he autismos out

>>375742486
It's quite simple, the downgrade.

The game was designed with a certain lighting in mind. First it gave atmosphere, could hide shittier assets, and gave the game a pretty grim and heavy feeling. Everything blended together perfectly, but without it, everything looks unshaded. But when they saw there's no way PS360 can handle the game, they removed the lighting engine, removed ragdoll and removed half the polygons from certains areas. You can still see remnants of what it was supposed to be, SOME NPC models are really good, there are very nice particle effects like those in fotfg, there's dynamic shadows when you light a torch, etc... The game looks 34523452345 times better with a good enb tho.

>>375719052

So you haven't played the game then?

>>375742447
In history class Micolash told us that some say Kosm. Don't like it? Then tell him. Or are you scared of his octopus hands?

>>375720916
If this was supposed to be a joke list, I'd remove the twin dragonriders. That fight was hella solid.

>>375742927
>not using a greatshield
>making the game harder for yourself just to prove something is "good"

>>375731345
good bosses in good souls games don't let you do that

>>375721529
Way to cheese an otherwise fantastic battle.

>>375726979
A lot of them like Covetous Demon, Semen of Dong, Mytha, Ruin Sentinels, Dragonrider, Giant Lord etc.
The problem for me is remembering a fight exactly correctly and what really qualifies as a phase.
Gargoyles keep activating as their total health reaches certain thresholds or you attack them out of turn.
Twin Dragonriders technically has a second phase when the second Dragonrider hops down but you can bring him down before that.
Fume Knight is barely a phase since you can just skip it entirely by wearing the squid helmet to spite him.
Pursuer's powerup doesn't activate based on his health but depends on cursing you.
You can cockblock Mirror Knight when he summons an NPC and not a player.

Just thinking about these has me wondering how they fucked those kinds of touches up in DaS3 when the previous game had some neat ideas.

>>375738417
This is kind of not representative as this is Spear of the Church gameplay.
DLC is also lategame content so Miracles are also pointless until lategame.

>>375738089
>Level design
I wouldn't say they obliterate every other soulsborne game. Some are pretty decent but there's also some shit ones like Farron Keep.
>Magic
It is a joke. Starting out it is basically torture because you're just going to do everything worse than a physical build until you're fully minmaxed.
>Rolls
Enemies aren't smarter. They are just as stupid as they always have been. Baiting you into rolling means very little when iframes are this good and stamina costs and recovery times are this low.

>>375744212
DS3 enemies are definitely smarter. They clearly have programing to rush you when you try to estus

okay we've had 250 posts about best bosses.

What about music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7dW6xCMXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpI-KeK-PQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvujJEQ864

obviously firelink shrine and majula theme too

>>375735410
There really needs to be more Dancer artwork.

Alright, I'll try a list of DaS2 bosses.

Darklurker (neat moveset, have to deal with two of the fuckers, nuff said)

The Duke's Dear Freja (a fine huge mess of spiders and lasers everywhere)

Pursuer (they simply nailed design + setting of the fight)

Looking Glass Knight (the fucker summons other players on your ass, had fun fucking around in the online mode with this battle)

Throne Watcher + Defender (neat gimmick of defeating both before they revive each other)

Nashandra (easy as shit but the intro and her fucked-up appearance felt so damn epic)

Executioner's Charior (the best damn non-conventional boss fight of the series)

Belfry Gargoyles (it was a very fun spin on the original DaS boss fight, it felt so very rewarding to learn how to manage space and distance correctly)

Ruin Sentinels (a group fight that demanded good management, just like above)

Mytha, the Baneful Queen (neat moveset, and fighting her without removing the poison is a very interesting challenge)

The Rotten (it's a very vanilla fight, but still curiously fun to dodge his telegraphed attacks while avoiding the flames)

>>375742281
>but it's poetry because you're a nobody too!
It's poetry on many aspects. First, yes, the fact that he's a literally who, the lowest form of knights that lived through everything, from the war against the dragons to the very end of the world.

Member how he throws a body at you like Artorias? Yes, everyone noticed that. Did you notice the difference between the two? Artorias was a phenomenal warrior, champion of Gwyn, that throws a literally who oolacile person, while Gael is a literally who that throws at you a pygmy lord?

The fact that he sacrificed himself, spent eons eating every dark soul bearer, knowing that he'll get corrupted and hoping you can defeat him, just because he wanted to give the little girl blood, so she might paint hope, and a new world, for at least one person.

The fact that he became, through countless battles, an extremely powefull being. He can cast miracles without a talisman, and can literally break space time and teleport himself just like that. He can even control his cape.

And there's also the fact that the soundtrack is phenomenal, mechanically speaking the fight great and use every trick you learned in those 5 games, the midfight cutscene is kino tier, the second the second part of the soundtrack kicks in is chills inducing, and the way he shoots his crossbow while doing a slowmo airflip is pure porn. Let's not forget the fantastic visual design of the arena, how beastly he looks in the first phase, and how epic it was to see the sun dissapear once he dies. Literally the best possible ending for the trilogy.

Gael a best, a real human bean, and a real hero. More than poetry, kino

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>>375744546
D3 intro was solid gold
https://youtu.be/stWae6r7Blw

Dancer was my favorite boss and boss music, loved how understated it was, it just fit the flow, tempo and feel of the battle so perfectly
https://youtu.be/Q3xQga-2LX4

Also >dancer booty got me like

>>375719915
>He didnt meet up with baby sif

>>375744546
Majula is ear porn.

Only DaS themes I like are Taurus Demon and Gwyn. Otherwise DaS3 has the best themes, abyss watchers, yhorm, armour, princes, Gael, etc...

>>375744369
I think it's more the case that they have attacks that have them advance quickly on your position and you'll selectively remember the moments when they hit you while you were chugging.
I've never had much problem with drinking Estus safely since it's very fast and I don't think I've noticed much of a difference in their behavior when chugging.
As far as I'm concerned enemies still feel like about as much of a diceroll as in the other games aside from a few moments when they use a specific attack because you're behind them and then get hit because they have no poise during that attack.

Though I could definitely be wrong, either I'm just that good or I'm just that shit.
There's a term for being really shit at something but thinking you're good and I'm describing it really poorly and forgot what it was called.

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>Tower Knight
>Knight Artorias
>Ornstein and Smough
>Kalameet
>Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne
>Ludwig
>Orphan of Kos
>Gehrman
>Twin Princes
>Soul of Cinder
>Pontiff Sulyvahn
>Uncle Gael
>Champion Gundyr
>Darkeater Midir

DaS = BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

I love them all though

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>>375720502
>mfw I just went and watched it

>>375745028
You are a man of taste. I'll add Lost Sinner because the cutscene and the design is great even tho the fight is piss easy, Velstadt, well, because it's Velstadt, Giant Frog, just because of how fucked up it looks, and the DLC bosses.

>>375733164
for meaning to be a rat, looks an awful lot like a hyena

I really dig that Champion Gundyr is on everyones lists, i dont see people talking about him a whole lot but hes hands down my favorite soulsborne boss

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HARDCROE GAMING

>>375733636
I enjoyed it, and getting all achievments isnt even hard - just a little time consuming due to rotten farming, you should have a dickload of ascetics from your base ng run when doing darklurker stuff, and then you can buy 20 from between navlaan and grandahl himself. Maybe even agdayne sold them - i know i bought a buncha something from him - mighta been humanity tho.

>>375745218
>Dancer
Definitely, the music fit well with how she moved around/attacked

anyone else in here get their ass handed to them by fume knight, I enjoy shield play - i love them aesthetically so generally wind up playing with one.

Fume knght forcing me to change my main playstyle i've had through 2 games really fukt my shit up. Was satisfying killing him - but he was an uphill battle for me - probably like 25~ or so attempts.

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>>375744212
>I wouldn't say they obliterate every other soulsborne game. Some are pretty decent but there's also some shit ones like Farron Keep.
Sure, not every area is great and Farron Keep/Swamp is pure cancer. But Lothric's Castle, Undead Settlement, Cathedral of the Deep and Archdragon Peak for exemple curbstomp even the best DaS has to offer.
>It is a joke. do everything worse than a physical build until you're fully minmaxed.
I'll admit that it gets really solid only after mid/late game, but once you get the spells, an upgraded weapon and a few points in int, it's great. Also rushing the game and taking the scrolls takes like 2 hours, it's really not a problem.
>Baiting you into rolling means very little when iframes are this good and stamina costs and recovery times are this low.
iframes are less OP than in DaS, and it's ok for stamina costs to be this low since enemy do way more damage, are way more aggressive and destroy your stamina while blocking.

>>375717916
These are the worst soulsborne bosses. In no particular order
>Phalanx
>King allant (kinda doesn't count)
>Bed of chaos
>Taurus demon
>Covetous demon
>Demon of song (frog thing)
>Skeleton lords
>Flexile sentry
>Chariot
>Royal rat authority
>Hemwick witches
>Celestial emissary
>Micolash
>Wet nurse (great design, shit fight)
>One reborn
>Vordt for the boreal Valley
>Cursed rotted great wood
>Crystal sage
>Deacons of the deep
>Champions gravetender

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>>375745964
I enjoyed it because it was so different from the other boss music
Most bosses are huge set pieces with huge orchestral arrangements and massive choirs and almost always a bell tolling right at the start
The dancer music just felt like a few instruments narrarating our fight from within the room, and the music didn't make the battle feel frantic in the same way the other bosses did, by just adding more instruments, key change and increasing tempo. The dancer added tension and stress by having a few instruments hit sharp notes and hold somewhat uncomfortable notes for a long time and by not changing the key in expected ways making your ears feel slightly uneasy as well as you and your character

>>375746285
Vordt was great though, decent casual filter

>>375746285
>Demon of Song
>Bad
Maybe I was just so tired of "IT'S A GUY IN ARMOR! AGAIN!" when I got to it, but I found that fight refreshing and interesting.

>>375746529
Gundyr was a better causal filter, I didn't even get hit by vordt

>>375746285
Whilst being poor bosses, some of them had good / interesting design, which is somewhat redeeming.

Demon of Song
Skelly lords
Flexile Sentry
Chariot

I thought they all had somewhat neat designs (or gimmicks).

>>375746285
I thought the vordt was pretty decent
Replace it with Ludex Gundyr
The second phase of that fight is a joke and the black shitslime is a silly gimmick for a boss and terrible for an intro boss

>>375746661
That's the thing with some the designs are great but the fights are meh. The one reborns cut scene had me so pumped and the fight was just eh

>>375746654
But ludex is a bad casual filter because that slime shit is barely seen the rest of the game and most new people die during that phase when none of his moves make any coherent sense and there's virtually no way to tell which part of his awful character model does any damage

in no particular order
O&S, Orphan, Gascoigne, Ludwig, Kalameet, Artorias, Manus, Maria, Gael, Maria, Pursuer, Tower Knight, Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armor, Cleric Beast

i find it really easy to come up greatest to least boss tier lists for das1 and das2 but it's quite difficult for bloodborne and das3. the problem is that i like too many of the bosses in bloodborne and das3 near equally- a lot of them are extremely high quality and it's hard to pick one over another.

i never did finish demon's souls but there seemed to be a clear separation between the quality bosses and the shitty bosses there too. i think from has gotten better at boss quality consistency as the series has progressed, if nothing else.

>>375717916
WHERE THE FUCK IS LUDWIG YOU NIGGER

>>375746232
Lothric's castle is solid in conjunction with the Grand Archives even if it only introduces two new non-variant enemies (Wax fuckers, twin axe angel).
Undead Settlement is pretty good.
Cathedral of the Deep is alright but is plagued with non-level design issues and gripes. It's pretty linear until you get to the first Giant at which point a bunch of decent options present themselves.
Archdragon Peak isn't really all that great. It's linear but also some side areas for the dragon stone and Havel.

>iframes are less OP than in DaS
Can you source this?
I checked one of the wikis and some other sources and the fastroll in DaS (13 frames. Which you can only reach at 24-25% encumbrance, whereas the other rolls have 11 (mid) and 9 (heavy) iframes) seems to be on par with the standard roll in this game (12-13 frames depending on the source.That ends up going all the way to 70% encumbrance) while the Carthus bloodring ends up boosting the iframes past the wood grain ring (One wiki saying 15 for WGR and 16 for CBR).
WGR has no downsides while the Bloodring has a 15% defense debuff but you also only have 2 ringslots in DaS1 as opposed to 4 in DaS3.

>>375747660
>muh kino
first phase is trash

>>375743032

Can you not read?

>No DaS2 BASE GAME bosses belong on these lists.

Abyss Watchers are piss easy with a cool concept that barely got expanded upon at all in game. Their theme is horrendously overrated.

Friede and Maria are bosses for waifufags who want souls to be anime.

>>375723840

Would it quench your autism if the boss had a single three times as large health bar instead?