>Healing items stack infinitely >Game stops once the pause

>>375717484
getting oneshot by everything to make food irrelevant

>>375717484
Link gets one shotted early game by literally everything but the basic bokogoblins. Just make everything one shot link no matter the health stacking buffs and it's be like early game again

>>375717484
mobs attack you in groups and their hp regenerates so no more cheese tactics

Apparently, according to Nintendo, "make every monster one class higher, make them damage sponges that heal and also have supersensitive hearing, and also make them fly on wooden planks with balloons"

>having just one yellow heart literally makes you be unable to be oneshot by anything ever because for some reason you will always be left with a quarter heart if you had any amount of yellow hearts before you took the hit
As if that shit needed to be more OP than it already is.

>>375717484
>>375717797
>Getting hit
Not even mentioning that the combat is completely avoidable, unfun, and unrewarding.

>>375718061
>Mob attacks in group instead of being retarded

May as well call it 10FPS Mode

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>barbarian outfit gives me attack bonus
>can't see enemies' health
what do

>>375718220
actually to be honest the combat in the game can get pretty rough!

>>375717797
>>375717948
You can't die when your hearts are full. A fatal blow leaves you with a quarter heart instead.

>>375718336
why is link so cute bros

>>375718303
there was an update last month that fixed frame rate anon.
ain't that bad anymore compared to launch.

>>375718510
Not for the Wii U

>>375718556
nobody bought a WiiU

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>>375718460
>the long side hair is actually his sideburn
he has dumbest hair i've ever seen

>>375718443
are millions of people getting oneshot in the great plateau lying now?

>>375718628
the cutest hair you've ever seen more like :3

>>375717484

You can't. You'd have to ignore 99% of the content and have self-imposed restrictions like no healing during battles for BotW to have any difficulty.

>>375718628
It's anime, it don't gotta make sense in real life.

>>375718336
You mix obviously. Champion's Tunic to see health with the other two pieces being attack buff pieces.
Then if you want that third attack buff just eat for it.

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>>375718614
I don't regret it too much, it had some good stuff. BotW being the only game I bought for it and never finished.

>>375718556
there was
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25569

>>375718628
Thats wrong though, unless you call them sideburns on girls too? Its just the hair being long around your ears, its not facial hair.

>>375718443
That's not true. You might be thinking of >>375718169 though.

>Die
>Respawn 10ft away
>Skip the fight because it doesn't give you anything anyway

When does the fun start?

>>375718843
>Die
>Respawn 10ft away
>Plan the fight in advance using a different strategy than the one you used last time

When does the shitposting end?

How can you die in this game when they give you max healing + immunity to instant death items in loads of 30

>>375718770
I know there was, it just didn't do much, compared to the Switch version (supposedly)

The only time the combat was remotely fun was when it gets frantic, I.E. 5+ enemies shooting arrows and a mob chasing you, but the game can't handle that shit, and that scenario isn't even unique to BotW, and other games have core mechanics that aren't from 1998.

>Develop a new engine
>Can't actually run
>Ship it anyway

This is FE: Fates tier bullshit.

>>375718935
Why would I fight anything to begin with?

>>375718843

The fun is finding korok seeds and shrines, that's all there is to do in this game. Climbing cliffs and gliding down from them is now A+ gameplay innovation.

>>375719169
you can reduce anything to make it sound like shit. Yes a large part of the game is climb and glide, but the way it's implemented makes it fun.

>>375719064
That was for the last update that did framerate stuff that people were talking about. From like back in March or something. This is a new update that came out literally yesterday.

>>375719128
To get their weapons, monster ingredients, chest when you beat them all, to get through a choke point, etc.

>>375719223
>but the way it's implemented makes it fun.
I'm not him and I don't even slightly agree. Gliding is pretty much non-interactive, if you have a rubber band you may as well go make a sandwich.

>>375717484
By not healing during combat?

>>375719256
Oh, that's good then. I wonder if it worked.

God knows I won't ever find out. Consoles been gathering dust since late March.

>>375719297
>weapons
just go to where all the good ones spawn after the blood moon. you don't need boko shit.
>monster ingredients
as if I don't have literally 200 of these at any one time

>>375718336

You don't need to see their health, just swing at the fucker until it's dead.

>>375719064
>The only time the combat was remotely fun was when it gets frantic
Planning to take down your first Hinox wasn't fun?
Trying out new weapons and avenues of combat isn't fun?
Combat being frantic as fun is part of all games that have combat anyway, I have no idea why you're trying to equate that with only Zelda.

>if nothing happens during combat, then it's bad because i'm bored
Literally every game with combat anon

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>>375719337
>muh self imposed restrictions
yeah and mario 64 is really hard if you don't use the a button

>>375719397
>you don't need boko shit.
you need boko shit when starting out, and to stock on them for the lizals you'll take your weaps from.
>as if I don't have literally 200 of these at any one time
yeah when you're starting out

>>375719397
at some point bokos or lizalfos drop royal, knight and traveler stuff

>>375719539
>you need boko shit when starting out,
Not if you go to the tower with an infinitely respawning royal claymore that's on the path to the forest that the inventory guy directs you to

>>375719312
well that's your opinion

>>375717484
Just don't ever heal. Any damage you take is permanent.

I always considered things like fairy bottles as cheating.

>>375719656
this to be honest

>>375719640
Well I've actually qualified it as opposed to you so

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>>375719409
but I want to see that fucker's health. that's all

>>375717484
>How can there be a "hard mode" in games like these?

Because not every game has to cater to Monster Hunter players. There needs to be games that are accessible for new players to the industry.

>>375719297
You only need weapons if you're fighting shit. There are only like 5 enemies in the game you actually have to kill.

>Ingredients
Elixirs break the game.

>Chests
Chests have OP arrows, shit weapons, or ores that are literally around every corner in them. Again, why the fuck would you use any of that shit when it breaks the boss fights?

>Choke point
>>Ignoring the gameplay "innovation" the entire game is marketed around

For the record, the game being imbalanced on historic levels would be completely ignorable if the base action of fighting enemies was fun. Specifically if it had been overhauled once since Ocarina.

No overhaul. No balance. Hey at least there is chemistry.

>>375719639
which doesn't respawn until the blood moon, which by then your royal claymore is long gone unless you hoarded them

what did you actually do anon? camp out that area shitting on stals and bokos until you filled up your weapon inventory?

>>375719721
yeah, with your opinion :p

>>375718843
when you git god lols

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>>375719839
>not minmaxing off of joystiq guides for casual SP games

what are you, plen?

>>375719802
I don't understand this shitpost. You didn't find the combat fun so you stopped fighting enemies that you deemed weren't worth your time?

I mean hey if your autism works that way good for you

>>375720023
>minmaxing in a zelda game instead of max comfy
PROFESSOR OAK: There's a time and place for everything.

>>375719802
>Elixirs break the game.

uhhhhhmmm no, sweetie.

>>375719397
You needs TONS of monster ingredients if you want the Dark armor and all of the masks, smart alec.

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>>375720115
fuck you gramps you can't tell me what to do!!!

>>375720124
How about you don't type like a retard

>>375720318
u first ;)

>>375718169
Not true. Have you even played the game? Stop watching streams of "muh gamers" play it.

>>375718443
>I've never played the game but egoraptor said so.

>>375719802
>5 enemies in the game you actually have to kill.
Literally false. Can't proceed to the shrine on top of the snowy mountain in the great plateau without killing the bokoblin camp in the way. Also, the Stals.

>Elixirs break the game.
They don't. The max effect elixirs only happen with dragon parts and blood moons too.

>Chests have OP arrows
Are vendors OP as well? Fuck these vendors breaking boss battles

>gameplay "innovation"
"rain" you absolute retard, and you wouldn't have climbing gear yet unless you did vah ruta last

>>375718783
I think anon was referring to the game directly calling them sideburns. It's someone who recognises you. I don't remember where and I didn't screenshot.

>>375720735
>>5 enemies in the game you actually have to kill.
>Literally false. Can't proceed to the shrine on top of the snowy mountain in the great plateau without killing the bokoblin camp in the way. Also, the Stals.
Holy shit, dumb niggers like you still exist?

>>375717484
You know have a stomach meter, eating food fills it and you cant eat until it is empty

There, that was hard wasnt it.

Honestly, this is why you're unemployed and a failure at life. You're incapable of thinking for yourself.

>>375719476
>Travelling through parallel universes
>hard
git gud

>>375718443
Maybe you should try playing the game instead of watching a literal highschool dropout retard play it in youtube.

>>375718367
*pats*

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So why do Links wear earrings?
left

>>375718671
yes

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>>375721863
So why are Zelda fans flaming homos that want to fuck literally every character, regardless of species, except the females?

>>375722097
Because theyre hot

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>>375722097
It was homobait since OoT.
When did Zelda cross the point of no return? Triforce heroes.

>>375720856
Paya

>>375717484
-game presents you an exploitable system
-YOU CHOOSE TO USE SAID SYSTEM!
>FUCKING SHITTY GAME IS NOT HARD, HOW CAN I DIE!!! REEEEEEE!

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link is cute

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>>375722534
Link is not a trap material

>>375722387
the game design should impose challenge on the player, it should not be up to the player to impose challenge on himself, as this feels artificial and arbitrary

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>>375722534
I'm glad they were so progressive on the issue of trans people - Link in gerudo garb was obviously a non-cisgendered female and the gerudo still respected that and let her inside.

>>375717484
Not to mention the Trial of the Sword reward, which rends the whole durability system obsolete

I'm not really digging this, frankly

>>375722958
>the game design should impose challenge on the player, it should not be up to the player to impose challenge on himself
>BotW as a whole is "play whoever you want"
ok homie

>>375718336
You can see their health bar. That's enough information. You don't really need numbers outside of testing weapon damage

>>375722958
now this is autism haha

>>375717484
disabling the pause menu mid-fight would infuriate players because that isn't good design. they could do away with the pause altogether but what would it be replaced with? players are already used to the current system.

>>375723237
So then how strong is 3 stacked attack buff?

>>375720973
Tell me how you can proceed outside the great plateau and get 5 guys you actually have to kill, without killing others to get their weapons first.

What a dumb cracker.

>>375723340
well if they weren't colossal fucking retards they could have made use of the Wii U gamepad and allowed all the pause functionality via the touchscreen without actually pausing the game, but nope, they had to gut any possibility of features like that to sell their meme modular console/handheld nonsense

and people are eating it the fuck up, of course

>>375723125
Because enemies are all raised by a level and have regenerating health.

>>375719769
>Monster Hunter
>Hard
>Implying
90% of the game is preparation. It's not hard

>>375722987
die

>>375722987
>implying that was handled well
They clearly put him there for laughs. They laughed at a real, very serious issue
That was the opposite of progressive

How much of a bigot can you be?

>>375724042
also die

>>375717484
Sounds like Gothic 3.
Dammit Nintendo, can't you make anything new?

>>375723987
hi lee:)

>>375723987
now are you triggered by trapfags, lee?

>>375723553
It adds insult to injury to see how obviously the Sheikah Slate was a stand-in for the gamepad

They just went and cut it out so no one would take the Wii U version, and at the same time spit in the faces of those that bought the console

>>375724220
a feminine penis is not gay

>>375724375
Imagine being able to walk around with the map on the tablet screen placing stickers and shit super comfy.

That said i don't think I would've wanted it to require you to use the tablet

>>375723363
Full barbarians and another +3 Attack buffs seem to be about 150% damage, IIRC
AKA you deal 50% more damage

>>375723061
Go to bed M.

>>375724994
I can't for at least another hour.

The frech champs don't talk when an ability is used?

>>375717484
As much as I love breath of the wild, being able to pause during combat to use healing items does seems a bit iffy to me.

>>375724592
Yeah, it's understandable, but having the option to toggle between the current style and moving the menus to the tablet would have been pretty great

It's a shame we probably won't see the use of menus in real time through the use of a second screen in a home console anytime soon

Even if the bloom was awful, having that option in the Wind Waker port was pretty neat

>>375717484
By making it so the pause button does not in fact pause

>>375725250
How so, if I may ask? Let's say you're close to dying and have healing items in stock

>Option A: pause, use items
You've now regained some health at the cost of inventory, and can keep fighting

>Option B: don't use an item
You either pull through with low health or die; in either case you keep your item but may or may not have to redo the fight (if you so choose).

Where is the problem exactly?

>>375725887
Food is easy to come by and cooking may as well be cheat codes

>>375722387
>you can choose not to do it
>therefore its immune to criticism

No.

>>375725887
A better solution would be to have a button to use health items during battle without the whole "pausing" thing ever happening.

>>375722387
>game is built around an exploitable system*

>>375726013
basically it is tho.

>>375717484
>Game stops once the pause button is pressed
Wow, who 'da thunk it?

>>375726225
The point.

Your head.

>>375726173
>Combat system is built around devs expecting you to pause and heal mid fight
GIt GUd

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>>375724495
yes it is

>>375726369
If that's not the case then why can you do that?
Uh?
Checkmate, atheists!

>>375725042
Sleep well!

>>375718443

This is how I know /v/ doesn't play games, they just watch other people do it and parrot their incorrect observations

>>375726545
>what is something optional
your chess is weak

>>375726010
Again, food/cooking is an option the game provides you to solve a potential problem, not a flaw in the combat itself.

>>375726138
I don't see how that would be a solution to anything, its just adding another step to obtain the same result.

>>375726676
see >>375726013

>>375726564
I just said I can't sleep yet!

>>375726738
yes, actually it is immune, as is not forced upon you anyhow

>>375726725
>adding another step

What? It actually removes a step in getting the same result.

>>375726805
>as is not forced upon you anyhow
Yet you can do that with no problems.

>>375726369
Pretty much since miyamoto does it in the fucking E3 showcase for the game.

>>375726875
>go to inventory
>use healing item

vs

>go to inventory
>select healing item to be consumed in combat
>press button to heal

It both adds an unnecessary step and wastes your button mapping

>>375726782
Then have a pleasant sleep! Sorry I don't contact you more often on Steam, but I always just assume everyone is busy.

>>375726805
Killing someone in real life is optional. Does that mean I can't criticize the idea of killing people?

>>375727164
>>go to inventory

You are not going to be doing this in combat with my solution. You are only going to press a button.

>>375727190
I'm never busy, I'm a fuckin' loser, trust me. I hope you slept well, assuming that's what you were up to.

>>375727380
Nah I'm just at working goofing off.

>>375727852
Oh okay. I thought I remembered you saying you were a NEET, I'm not so smart.

>>375727378
>armchair developer

Do you choose which item is mapped to said button before combat? Can only one item be mapped to said button? What button function is being replaced for this feature? No matter what your answer is, the result is regardless less functional than what is already in place.

>>375727996
Have you ever played dark souls? I was thinking something like that.

>>375728285
>just make everything like Dark Souls

Every Dark Souls fans solution to everything.

Never post again.

>>375728506
All I suggested was a button for health, so I wouldnt have to pause everytime during combat. I didn't suggest to make the entire combat system like souls, or even the entire game. Just a button to heal during combat. And you attack me for even mentioning dark souls. Beautiful.

>>375727958
Oh, then I wonder if you know who I am then. It's cool.

>>375728747
Stop being insecure, anon. I already pointed out the flaws in your logic here >>375727996

>>375728985
You're the one who has been encouraging me to draw just about every day, right? If so, then of course I do.

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>>375728506
Fuck off retard. He's talking about not having to go into his inventory for everything.

>>375729156
see >>375727996

>>375729093
Yes, it's me V. I hope you're doing well.

>>375729089
You pointed out nothing. All you did was ask questions, and then said no matter what answer I give, it won't work. I then gave an answer, and then you attacked me for bringing up a certain game, because you have some insecurity about it.

>>375729762
Wait, V? I'm doubting myself now.

>>375729868
Yeah that's what my name on your friends list starts with. Unless you have alot of those I don't imagine it's hard to find.

>>375729767
>You pointed out nothing. All you did was ask questions, and then said no matter what answer I give, it won't work.

Because you're trying to make the gameplay better by adding additional unnecessary steps, how do you not see the obvious contradiction here?

>I then gave an answer, and then you attacked me for bringing up a certain game, because you have some insecurity about it.

It has nothing to do with Dark Souls; it's that you are super-imposing a game mechanic from Dark Souls into a game that mechanic does not work well in. This is the problem with any and all "armchair developing", in that you refuse to acknowledge that your attempt to fix something is actually making it much worse because you haven't thought through the potential problems an actual developer would run into trying to incorporate said idea.

>>375730484
There's one person with a V on my friends list, but it's not the person who has been telling me to draw just about daily, I think. I'm confused now.

>>375730727
Ah, that's me, but I usually tell you to keep at it when I'm in these threads since we seldom talk on Steam. Well this is kind of awkward now, I'll be getting back to work. Have a good one.

>>375730641
>adding additional unnecessary steps

Oh for crying out loud. Its not additional steps, if I'm doing LESS during combat. The "extra steps" you mentioned earlier are not something you do during combat. My idea is specifically for combat reasons.

>it's that you are super-imposing a game mechanic from Dark Souls into a game that mechanic does not work well in.

You have not once actually explained why this wouldn't work. Why is pressing a button to heal yourself something that wouldn't work in breath of the wild? It has healing items. You can pause to use them. Why is having a button to use them, essentially skipping the need to pause, making the game worse?

>>375717484
Get a bajillion fairies aswell
lol auto heal

>>375730641
Not him but you can't really say:
>It has nothing to do with Dark Souls
when >>375728506 made it all about Dark Souls

>>375731429
>Its not additional steps, if I'm doing LESS during combat.
I didn't specifically mention it had to be during combat.

>Why is having a button to use them, essentially skipping the need to pause, making the game worse?
Because you're not considering the existing gameplay in BoTW. If you had argued instead "make down arrow a shortcut to your cooked material" as a faster way to gain health, I could understand how this works since it would essentially follow the same rules as weapons, arrows, shields, ect. Your idea doesn't improve any aspect of the existing gameplay and would make inventory management even worse since you now have to map your healing items to a button before and after combat.

>>375732041
Can you not read?

>>375718443
Lol. Baka.

I forgot what game you're thinking of, but it's not Zelda.

>>375718443
The people quoting you don't know shit, beat the game with 3 hearts and there were only o e or two enemies in the game that could one shot your from full.

>>375732182
>If you had argued instead "make down arrow a shortcut to your cooked material" as a faster way to gain health, I could understand how this works since it would essentially follow the same rules as weapons, arrows, shields, ect

You're still using a button to heal, which is precisely the main point of my suggestion.

>>375732576
>which is precisely the main point of my suggestion.
>without pausing

You do know that all the arrow buttons pause the game, right?

t. Retard

>>375732357
Yes, I can read
>>just make everything like Dark Souls
>>Every Dark Souls fans solution to everything.
Kinda why I linked that post.

>>375732874
>it's that you are super-imposing a game mechanic from Dark Souls into a game that mechanic does not work well in

Again, can you not read?

>>375733147
The very statement you contradicted with >>375728506?

Yes, I can read.

>>375733456
That's not a contradiction, the second post explains the reasoning for the first.

>>375733723
>the second post explains the reasoning for the first.

No it doesn't, like at al. You probably tried, but the wording used is the very definition of contradicting yourself

>>375733950
Sure thing kiddo

>>375717484
>>Healing items stack infinitely
False
>>Game stops once the pause button is pressed
Like most games?
>>Can down as much food as you want in the pause menu back to full health
Only legitimate complaint, but if you got gud you wouldn't have to
>>You are unkillable
Untrue, been 1 shotted multiple times

>How can there be a "hard mode" in games like these?
By doing the opposite of everything you listed for hard mode? You're not very smart are you?

>>375734203
Be kind anon, these guys have been having trouble lately with finding things to dislike BoTW for.

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>>375717484
There can't, BotW's mechanics are fundamentally flawed.

I bet you anything that the original system worked in real-time because you used the gamepad, but that feature was cut once they delayed the game to port it to the Switch.

>we will never get the original GOAT Wii U version of BotW

>>375734887
baka toadposter

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>put on armor in a broken game with broken combat features
>take 0 damage from all enemies including bosses because you're autistic
>ask for 20$ dlc being 10%+ enemy health values

I only found 1 great fairy through my entire playthrough so after I did my 1st divine beast and after a couple of blood moons I would constantly get 1 hit killed by random mobs.

Thank god for Mipha's grace and fairies.

>>375732504
You're a retard, even with good armor a simple Lizalfos will do more than 3 hearts with just his bow mid game

>>375735036
The "new story" DLC won't be worth it either, will it?

And when you run out of food?

>>375717484
just play dark souls, then

>make food spoil
>make food items harder to gather correctly
>add hunger and thirst bar
>make animation happen in game instead of in menus
fixed

>>375736479
Depends on if they go all out with the dungeon or not.

>>375736730
I'd rather that when you eat something it adds a food cooldown timer. And the timer only goes down when in gameplay.

>>375736730
The only thing this would fix is that people would stop bitching about weapon durability, because they'd be bitching about all of the garbage game mechanics you just added.

>>375736730
I think the best solution is
>only cooked food is edible
>finite amount of food slots
>animation when consuming food

This would require the menu system to be radically improved though.

For all of Skyward Sword's faults, it did have real-time potion drinking which was a huge upgrade from previous games. Feels like Zelda sequels are always one step forwards, one step backwards.