>4K >HDR >looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings

>>375712229
>when did we go so far?
When did we achieve this much, or perhaps
When could we accomplish this much

You're get there eventually, English isn't that hard.

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>>375712229
Because HZD was made for PS4 from start to finish. With TW3 they had to compromise visuals due to heavy downgrade.

>>375712229
>covered in Vaseline

Looks great m8

>>375712229
It'd look much better on Scorpio.

>>375712229
I agree that it looks great but not as good as the witcher. You see the problem with multiplatform games like the witcher is that they have to make compromises to make the game easier to develop for all platforms. That's why playstation exclusives look great despite running on weak hardware.

>>375713726
>but not as good as the witcher.

Stopped reading there

I started playing on a standard PS4 then switched to a Pro... see no differences between 1080p and 4K. Did I just got memed?

>>375713803
>stopped reading

Stopped reading there.

The witcher 3 screenshots always look like they have a sharpening filter put over them

>>375712229
>4K
No
>HDR
It's a thing since 2005 in PC

>>375712229
By making a bland uninteresting lifeless world

>>375712229
>ps4 game
>"looks better than-

Lol stopped reading

>>375712229
The branch in the foreground looks like someone puked on a log of shit.

>>375715318
New HDR is not the same as old PC HDR. New HDR reffers to TV's and monitors displaying more colors than before. You need a special TV and monitor that can do it and the PC monitors that can do it arent even out yet and cost 1k or more.

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>>375712229
>looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings

>>375716062
Yeah, but then you have """"""""HDR"""""""" TV's with 3000:1 static contrast and ~300 nits max brightness selling for 500$.

>>375716160
Post me some beautiful TW3 water or cartboard cutouts, excuse me, """foliage""", anon :^)

>>375716130
>>375716294
I really need to play this already.

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mods

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>>375716276
Post a non-blurry Horizon screenshot.

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>>375712229
>game runs and looks like shit during actual gameplay
>has screenshot mode where graphix are turned up to max and FPS is at 3

>>375716671
>blurry
Are you literally retarded?

>>375716671
>silhouettes
The only way """""foliage""""" in TW3 can look decent, lmao

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>>375712229
>30 fps
>go into bullshot photo mode
>5 fps

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>>375712229
Is the Pro her as foggy as the standard version? It looks great, but the fog kinda bothers me specially when I'm taking screenshots.

If it's not, is it a good idea to trade my standard PS4 for a Pro even if I don't own a 4k TV?

>>375716789
nice argument

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>>375716789
Horizon is a blur fest.

>>375716927
Yes and no it's not a good idea.

>>375713901
Depends on how big your screen is and how far you sit from it.

>>375713414
Lmao what the fuck is this? This is Bioware tier animation.

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Horizon looks amazing because there is no pc port to hold back the graphics. It happens all the time with PS4 exclusives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnjKnf5MZVM

>>375717175
anon, what are video games made on?

>>375717175
Why does Ryse and Quantum Break look better than any PS4 game then?

>>375716062
Anon. You do realize my 4k TV has an HDMI slot right?

>>375717315
shhh let him delude himself

>>375717175
>youtube link
lmfao

>>375717175
Youre a fucking idiot..

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>>375712229
>looks better than Witcher 3
>30fps

>>375712229
It's called specializing. When you specialize on a certain platform (PS4 in this case), you can discover all the intricacies of it and ring it out for all it's worth. The Last of US running on the PS3 is a technical marvel that was only ever possible because of Naughty Dog's technical team doing an outstanding job.

With PC's, there's no real incentive to specialize because of how many different rig set up potential's there are.

>>375713726
the witcher 3 does not even look good

>>375717175
How much of this is gameplay at 10 fps without the player model and then reedited to 30fps during the render process?

>>375717934
>true
>true
Point?

Will next gen run 1080p @ 60 fps for ALL titles?

>>375712229
Apple Vs PC effect.
apple all has the same hardware so optimization is easier. its more expensive for the parts but to some degree the parts run better just on that. PC run on multiple hardware so more powerful gives better scaling but worse optimization.

The more unified the PC parts are the better off you are in that respect, and as consoles are headed in the direction of multiple power. the PC optimization is just not going to get any worse.

>>375718361
No, probably 4k @ 25 fps.

>>375718287
>without the player model
Camera is programmed to zoom in to first person view when you're near trees, walls, rocks...just use the right stick to move the camera ;)

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>>375718542
>right stick

>>375718346
A still photo looks better than both. Lets go full retard with this.

>>375718475
I seriously being able to change between options will be standard. 500 bucks for a console, game and a controller that can run 1080p @ 60fps is okay.

>>375718287
the game plays pretty solid at 30, sometimes it dips to 20 if there's a shit ton of enemies/explosions

>>375712229
Fog walls the game looks worse than witcher 3 on ultra

>>375718664
seriously hope

Is checkerboard 4k actually native 4k? Sony says it is

>>375713803

It clearly doesn't though. It also runs at 30fps with dips, while TW3 runs at a solid 60fps.
Not even slightly comparable.

>>375718734
Yes, it's native 4k (upscaled).

>>375718824

No (Yes)

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>>375712229
>looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings

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>Get into an argument about how consoles hold back PC with exclusivity games, poor ports
>They argue that PC's are hard to maintain and more expensive
>Consoles you pay for online, plus internet, and buying games at full price
>30fps is the usual on most console games
>Horrible draw distance with smudged terrain
>Call him a console peasant
>He gets butt angry and removes me

>>375712229
this game does a great job of being aesthetically pleasing whilst not being computationally expensive

however it does NOT look better than TW3 on ultra

>>375712229
Memes aside: I'm enjoying this game, i guess it's because i went in expecting shit but it's pretty good.

>>375718823
Not an arguement. Also TW3 looks bad.

>>375718824
Upscaled 4K isn't native 4K you dumbass.

>>375718917

I always hate people who argue about this shit and then get angry at me for having a PC. They pretend that it's more expensive which is the biggest fallacy around PC gaming. The up front costs are higher, but the costs over time are fuckiny lower. I did the math for my personal situation time and time again, and I saved around €250 in 5 years by getting a decent PC, in addition of being able to play games at 1080p and 60fps.

Then people call me an elitist and rich boy for having a decent pc while my main motivation was saving money. These fags reall don't understand money management.

>>375717279
Define made on. I can write code in a txt file on my phone and that can be compiled by any console.

>>375718823
>It clearly doesn't though.
I'm playing TW3 right now, and Horizon does look better. There's a general increase in quality.

Also, anyone saying TW3 on "ultra" needs to fuck off right fucking now. There's hardly any difference in TW3 between Ultra and very high. The only difference is small details and a huge amount of more ressources needed. Visual quality is almost unchanged.

I can't find this game on steam, so can't care.

>>375718917
Sounds to me like he made the right decision if you get so butthurt that you call him "console peasant".

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>>375712229
SO THIS IS
THE POWER OF
THE PRO

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>>375719427

Did you read the story in reverse, mate?

>>375718907
it's not even just that the facial animations are bad
when the camera shows her, she moves from some blatantly obvious default position like a robot

>>375719185
>being this new

too bad the game sucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>375712229
Nothing keeps a thread going like some good old graffics/platform shitposting. Do you get paid shillbucks per post or per thread?

>>375716386
fuck...

>>375716386
damn gta 4 looks like THAT

It's amazing what $200 console can do visually if there is no pc port to gimp down the graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyKJWtLjn4

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>4K
>HDR
>looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings
>runs of 400monopolymoney piece of hardware
>Is a shit game

>>375718674
i have the game and i have never seen this ever.

>>375712229
>"""""""4K""""""""

>>375718917
>Get into an argument about how consoles hold back PC with exclusivity games
>calls him a console peasant
How does this work? Are you calling him a pesant because his $300-400 shitbox can play something because your $800 one can't?

Ending has me tearing my hair out. What is science nigger doing with Hades and who are The Masters?

>>375719613
Nah I read about a little fagglet that called someone else a console peasant because stupid. And then the little fagglet was removed.

>>375720093
you do know what video games are made on, right?

>>375716062
>you can't hook your PC up to a TV

Can you imagine how shitty would Driveclub look if there was pc port.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCmSyJLHTmA

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>>375717175
>because there is no pc port to hold back the graphics
>meanwhile bb runs at 20 fps

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>>375719478
why did you readjust the resolution?

>>375720168
yeah and he probably also knows where they are played on: Playstation. Or else you'd see games like The Order, Uncharted or HZD on PC.
Oh wait, did you think that the PC games aren't downgraded literally every single time, to account for all the low spec systems? Nigga get real. You guys are your own worst enemy. That's why your $2000 system has games looking worse than my used $100 PS4

>>375720269
>meanwhile bb runs at 20 fps
And is still the best looking "Souls" game to date. Really makes you think...
Not to mention that the 20FPS isn't true. But I'll let that slide since it still looks better than DS3

>>375720225
Like all the other racers on PS4.
Instead though we have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guMshBQJN7I

>>375720110
Are there at least any cuties?

>>375712229
you're leaving out the '30 fps' and shitty LOD distance.

>>375720458
>lag is fine
whatever you say drone

>>375712229
I mean, Witcher 3 doesn't take much more money than that to run on ultra.

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>>375720334
graphic options exist just for that

>>375720458
>best looking
you could only say "it has best art style" and maybe be right be cause ds3 uses the same engine and has superior pc version.

>>375720285
>in motion not true 4k blurry mess
>photo mode renders only one frame
true power of the ps4

>>375717081
And actually having an 4K TV can be a important thing too

Is it worth the extra £100 for the pro? Can it do 60fps at 1080p? Higher frame rates is the main reason I want the pro, not bothered about graphics.

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>>375721627

>console
>true 1080p @ 60FPS

>>375721781
You pc faggots are fucking insufferable. I have a fucking pc. I just prefer consoles. They're more comfy.

>>375719104
Why is it not an argument?
Also, H:ZD looks worse.

>>375719314
Literally just played both games and you're full of shit

>sonybros get upscaled to 4k asscreed with robots and @booost mooode
>GRAFIXXX PC KEKS XBOTS NINTENTODLERS
>scorpio is anounced and specs revealed
>GRAFIX DONT MATTER LIES ALL BULLSHOTS

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>>375721887
>comfy.

>>375720334

Did you literally just forget that graphics options exist for PC games you fucking ape?
God console peasants can be insufferable.

>>375722132
some things never change
sonyfags may be retards, but they're our retards.

>>375722132
This is what they've been doing for ages.

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>>375721781

> asks if the ps4 pro can do 60fps 1080p
> get's told that it absolutely cannot
> WHO CARES ABOUT GRAPHICS, IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING COMFY

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>>375721887

> asks if the ps4 pro can do 60fps 1080p
> get's told that it absolutely cannot
> WHO CARES ABOUT GRAPHICS, IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING COMFY

>>375712229
>"4K"
checkerboarding

>>375720458
they literally lifted bloodborne assets to make DS3, and it has the benefit of anti aliasing. BB fags are so delusional about a game that can be platinumed in only 10 days.

>>375721781
There is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe i guess. But that's about it.

>>375722267
>>375722380
Nice fuck up.

>>375722972

Damn you phone posting!
The argument stands tho :^)

>>375720949
>>375722726
And yet DS3 looks worse than BB. Really makes you think about the power of PC gaming.

>>375721887
sonybros are the most cancerous bunch on /v/ their need for validation trumps the standard arrogance seen by PC users. I expect PC guys to be arrogant and look down on console users but the sonybros on /v/ have to pick a fight with everybody they can't accept when they're on the bottom

>>375723050
Semicolon caret right parenthesis

>>375722093
no you are full of shit. go check your eyes.

>>375712229

>maxes out at 30fps

Always forgets this one eh?

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>>375718917

>>375723050
What argument? That people actually care most about playing games rather than complaining about "muh 60FPS"? Yes, that is something you still haven't managed to bring down.
You can stand on your little soapbox and cry about it, but Playstation will continue to be successfull for that reason.

>>375722093
>Literally just played both games and you're full of shit
Yeah? We've all seen how HZD looks and we all know how TW3 looks as well. You can shitpost as much as you want, but it won't magically make TW3 look better than HZD.

>>375723423

You mean because they DON'T care.
And nobody questions that, we know that you don't care, you don't care about your hobby, or the games you play, or their quality. You have no real interest in what you are doing you are just following the herd.
Thats why Sony abuses you, thats why games cost twice as much for you, thats why online costs money, and thats why you'll keep being exploited.

But you are proud about not having standards.

>>375717315
just because it has hdmi doesn't mean it has hdr

>>375723423
that anon was asking whether it was worth getting the Pro you fucking donut, 60 fps is very relevant to the argument because he literally asked "can it do 60fps?"

The big problem with all the sonyfans in this thread is

>hurr all you care about is 60FPS
>hurr games on PS4 are so beautiful!

You contradict yourselves at every turn, you try to show off "better graphics" but then you try to shame PCfags for having a better framerate?

You realize the visual difference of 30 to 60 fps is bigger than the visual difference of Low to Ultra in most games, right?
Are you still going to stake your "argument" on visuals just because the FPS difference cannot be screenshot?

>>375717315
>HDMI over displayport
>thinking HDMI makes the hardware in the display more capable

>>375724015
BUT YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET BLOODBOURNE

>>375721576
kek as much as i love my ps4 i have to admit some people are fucking deluded when it comes to graphical superiority

>>375712229
>4K
>HDR
>no physics

>>375724395

All I need to get bloodborne at its highest graphical fidelity is drop like $250 on a ps4.

You will never get the game to actually run well though, no matter how much you are willing to spend, and neither will I, we both lost out on a good game at a good quality. Thank Sony and its bottomfeeder userbase

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>>375726239
Without Sony you would never have gotten the game to begin with. Fromsoft is SHIT at optimizing their game. It has nothing to do with Sony as evident by their other much more technologically advanced games that run way better than bloodborne.

So what's the typical framerate on a ps4 pro at 1080p? Since I assume the standard model is around 30fps

>>375726527

>Without Sony you would never have gotten the game to begin with.

this is the most apologetic cuck consumer response ever
>a-atleast they blessed us with this game

Its business, they wanted money and made a product to get it, and since they skimped on the product and never put it out on a better system - they got a lot less money out of it.
And it is up to sony how gimp they make their system and what target performance they set for the games on it - especially the ones they financed themselves.

Theres no apologies and excuses to be made, if you eat shit you are fine with this.

>>375727106
>skimped on the product
Literally the best of its genre
Literally has better art and sound than any of the previous games
Literally has more advanced tech than DS3 (look it up fatboy)
Top kek this is the most desperate attempt at shitting on Bloodborne and Sony i have ever seen.
If fromsoft didn't fuck the framerate up you wouldn't be saying half of the stupid shit you are saying.

>>375718734
if you don't move then yes,
in motion it interpolates half the frame with the previous frame ( in a checkerboard pattern), but it's not noticeable

Horizon is gorgeous and surprisingly fun. I'm enjoying it. Shame the PS4 has so few good games.

>>375725641
this

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woah...
so.. this... is... the.... power....

>4k upscaled
>30 fps with drops
Witcher 3 runs on 8k 30 and 4k 60 on modern rigs. Also, has amazing visual enhancement modifications.

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2007 huh really makes you think

>>375727401
>Literally has more advanced tech than DS3

Advanced 22 fps technology

BB does look better than DaS3, but that's purely a result of a lot more money being poured into BB. Of course it looks better.

>>375717081
>>375721131
I do have an 4K TV...

>>375712229
>4k
Wrong. It's 900p Upscaled ot a blurry, shitty fake """4k""""
>HDR
This is a marketing meme.
>Looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings
This is a reddit statement. Witcher 3 is 4k/144fps
>runs on a 400USD piece of hardware
Wrong. 30 fps is not "running"

>>375728150
Hmm but that anon said that they skimped on bloodborne.
hmmmmmmmmm really makes you think huh?

>>375728118
How the FUCK did Clear Sky have graphics that good?

>>375728254
>Not "running"
It's walking.

>>375728150
>BB does look better than DaS3, but that's purely a result of a lot more money being poured into BB. Of course it looks better.

It looks better because, just like every multi-plat, it wasn't gimped down by pc port.

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>>375728480
nope Soc with enb

>>375728480
I think that's Shadow of Chernobyl
Also, mods

>>375728901
and dank bump mapping/tessellation for fucking everything

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>>375712229
man this game is so good at baiting people why

>>375728254
>This is a marketing meme.
Lol, mad that there are no affordable HDR monitors yet?
>This is a reddit statement. Witcher 3 is 4k/144fps
FPS and resolution aren't graphics anon. HZD does look better.
> 30 fps is not "running"
Pkek confirmed.

>>375712229
It looks great only from a distance. As soon as you try to look things from close everything goes shit.

>>375729954
Remember The Order threads? Or BB threads when it first came out? Its always the same pattern of PC gamers throwing money into their rigs as """"hobby"""" and then seeing games that look much better on a $300 cheap piece of plastic.
Take that with the general attitude of /v/ being mad about anything, you can imagine why PC """gamers""" are so keen of flodding into these threads.

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>>375729954
>FPS and resolution aren't graphics

>>375730193
Whoops. Meant for >>375729030

>>375730264
Thats the kind of mental gymnastics console babies have to use in order to not convince themselves they aren't scum.

>>375718907
this is just fucking uncanny

>>375712229
>30fps
>fake4K
>shit textures
>shit LOD
>shit draw distance
>got released and shit on by Wildlands a month after

whoa so, this is the power of the..ps4?

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your console plebmess is only worth to be burn to ashes

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>fluffed up graphics with illusory 4k is now something to be flaunted about

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>>375731169

>>375731169
>x638

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>daily reminder that RDR2 will look amazing because there is no pc port to hinder the graphics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmA6MrX81z4

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>>375731282
that's for artistic purposes

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>>375731426

>>375731595
Man i love google maps

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>>375731595

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>>375731728

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>>375731916

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>>375732130

>>375731169
>>375731281
>>375731426
>>375731595
>>375731728
>>375731916
>>375732130
>>375732582
>Cities XL

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>>375732839
i have just the thing for you

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>>375733232

>>375716927
>that hair clipping through her shoulder blade
PIG DISGUSTING

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>>375733520

>>375733232
>Cities Skylines

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>>375734024

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>>375734145
ive got you covered senpai

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>>375734250

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>>375734353

>>375716927
yes, still lots of fog on the pro. the pro has boost mode so the framerate for a lot of games are slightly improved. if you can afford a pro get it, if not the slim is fine

HZD is one of the games that I think, "wow, i don't see how games can get better than this."

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>>375734548

>the last of us running at native 4k 60fps
>BUT PS4 PRO CANT DO 4K60FPS

and you pkeks need a 700 USD graphics card to achieve this lel

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>>375734787

>>375734884
>>the last of us running at native 4k 60fps
top lel

upscaling != native

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>>375735060

>>375735183
Nah it's native, but then again it's a PS3 port that consists mostly of big corridors

>>375735183
this
ps4 doesnt have any games taht run nateively above 900p

>>375735376
Can you support that claim, bitch boy?

>>375735183
what about nba2k17?

>>375735447
The entire library of upscaled blurry garbage

>>375735534
So you can't support that claim, okay

>>375735534
>being this buttblasted

kek

>>375728019
>Also, has amazing visual enhancement modifications.
No lol. This downgraded turd look like shit.

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>>375735328

>>375735580
>>375735610
>literally cant prove a single game that runs natively

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>>375735662

>>375735775
NBA2K17 :v

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>>375712229
I preferred the times when graphics couldn't be this good due to technical limitations and devs had to think about shit like gameplay and story if they wanted to sell a game

>>375735775
mgsvtpp

>>375730528
ok my patience has finally run out I demand that you delete this within 6 minutes or else I will get very angry

>>375735856
lol

>>375735941
try again

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>>375735851

>>375735909
NO THAT DOESN'T SELL

>>375735995
>try again
Solid argument. Can you post the pixel-count methodology you use to find out the resolution?

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>>375736002

>>375735775
http://www.videogamerplus.com/2014/09/60-fps-native-1080p-ps4-games-list.html

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>>375736151

>>375736257
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT GAME YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

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>>375736257

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>>375736348
alright

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>>375736539

>>375713414
>downgrade reddit meme

You do realize Steam confirmed that 70% of their userbase plays on low settings? Stop pushing your reddit hivemind propaganda you fucking moron. Even if W3 was PC only, it would look exactly the same.

>>375712229
>looks better than Witcher 3 on ultra settings
objectively not

>>375718664
>options
>console gaming
I kinda was hyped for 8th gen, with everyone touting 60fps as the new standard. Well here we are again, capping the hardware only 4 years into the generation with buttery smooth 25 fps @ sub fullHD resolutions. Any visual enhancements will be literal placebo effects, like the new HDR meme, as the x86 platform holds very little secrets to "uncover hidden performance" and considering the GCN architecture is 5 years old by now and the biggest improvement to it are driver updates and less shittily written code, somethings consoles don't really get. And no, PRO/Scorpio won't save the day if they carry over the same CPU that's gonna bottleneck games and force everything to run at 30fps for the rest of the generation.